MAY 2009 Rads
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I just posted the below on the rads w/ TE thread so I also thought I would copy it here. Deb I feel for you. If last Friday had not been my last day I really feel I would have quit. My body had had enough. I could NOT have done another treatment. When I walked out of those doors that last day I cried my eyes out, I couldnt get away from there fast enough. I could hardly read these threads my last week because everyone seemed to be doing so well and I was not. I am 6 days out and today is the first day I can say that it might be healing a very little. It was a hit in the pride department. I was one of those that was skipping through the first few weeks saying this isnt so bad. Boy did I eat those words. I just want to thank everyone on this thread for the support and congrats. Keep posting your experiences, it was so helpful to me and I know it will be to others about to take this trip. You guys are so strong, you can own that!! xoxo
Hi ladies,
I finished last Friday. I didn't post for a while, I really didnt have anything good to say so I was keeping quiet. I didnt want to be Debbie Downer and spread doom and gloom. I had a hard time the last 2 weeks. I dont know if the TE had any thing to do with my skin reaction to rads (prob not) and time will tell how my recon will turn out. I did burn and blister, pretty bad. I worked everyday of my tx but have been off since the last treatment. I have to keep lots of goop on the area and can only wear over sized tshirts. I cant put my arm down to my side and have needed to take some pain meds for the first time since my surgery. Everything went fine for the first 3 weeks or so then something changed and it all went down hill. I'm so glad its over and I just want to heal up and get on with it. This has by far been one of my biggest challenges.
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Congratulations Pringles. It's over for you. Now on to healing and health.
Ivory Mom. Sorry for the confusion. "The Strange Cancer Prevention Diet", is a book with research about cancer prevention written by a registered dietitian. She also has a lot of great recipes. She encourages a mostly vegetarian diet but, allows some fish and meat in limited quantities. Processed meats are an absolute no no. I've tried some of the vegetarian recipes and they are really good.
My cousin called last night and asked me what my follow up was. I realized at that point how scared and venerable I feel. My only follow up is diet and exercise. I love the idea of using treatment time for exercise. For us Triple negatives it's all we have. Let's keep motivating each other. This is life we're talking about here.
I'm glad that I'm at the end. The pain is not too bad, but the itching is driving me crazy and wearing a bra right now is totally impossible. Just 2 left to go and it's over.
We can do this. Yes we can.
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Wow, I just read the WIN study. It makes me feel better about diet and exercise being my follow-up. A toast to health,.
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Pringles: Congratulations! Your done!
DebInOhio: Hope the mending is going well! Hang in there.
DebOnTheLake: Using Aquaphor at night helped a whole lot towards the end. I used it nightly the last week of treatment and during boost. It's messy but does wonders. Hang in there. Your almost done.
I have a coworker that went through radiation treatment for breast cancer last year in September. She said to make sure you keep moisturizing your skin way after treatment is over. She said she is just now able to use deoderant even with no skin problems throughout treatment and still no armpit hair. She said her skin was very sensitive after treatment and took a while before she could wear anything other than a sports bra.
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I have two more boosts and I tell you, I am red, red, red.
My husband had a meeting in the big city, so he went with. He is a wild driver in the city and I am a former driver's ed teacher, so you can imagine the trip. White knuckling trip # 2 and hurried drive back from the location of his meeting to my appointment brought forth hot flash number 5 of the day; I have had about ten today.
I walk into the building that is beautiful- a water fall, a beautiful chandelier, a grand pian. The place is peaceful, there is a man playing wonderful calming jazz (oxymoron?) on the grand piano and the receptionist smiles at me with a calm look on her face. I look around, I take a deep breath and I say to myself I am about to be done with treatment. Without anytime to reflect, the dizziness I felt last week loomed its ugly head and I literally had to rest my head on the elevator as I went downstairs. I realize now as I am feeling a bit less stressed, that the place I dreded going to for so long was a respite to me today . I don't know , but I certainly didn't like the panic . I was also surprised it hit me like it did. I have so wanted to be done with all the aches and pains-physically and emotionally of treatment and as I am to finish, I feel vulnerable.
The rest of the day was okay, but I do feel like crying off and on. And as I have often said on this board and the chemo thread I was on, I couldn't have done it with out the support from all of you. First of all, writing this has been good for me and secondly and better yet, your responses to me have been great. The support, the laughter, the remarks, concerns questions have helped me to cope. Thank you May Radiettes. I do hope we keep in touch. Besides, I have two more txs and I can't wait to drink my cyber stoli and cranberry!!!
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Hi Everyone,
I did not discover this forum until just now, but have a question for you all. I have had 30 treatments (25 regular and 5 boost) starting in May and just finished June 30th!!
My question is - is anyone out there experiencing a rash around the treatment area. My rash started the first day of the boosts - which is just about 2 weeks ago. I have seen the oncologist twice, taken a steriod pack, and today saw a dermatologist. The oncologist says the rash is not related to the treatments, since it is not in the treatment field. The dermatologist says the rash is related to the treatments. The dermatologist gave me a steriod cream, since I have already had a round of steriods and have had no improvements.
If anyone is experiencing this, please give me some info on your treatments for the rash. My oncologist seems to be puzzled by this and commented that he has not seen a rash like this before - completely surrounding the treatment area. And it is sooooo itchy!!
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LynneVA, I could have written the second paragraph of your post today, except I had to take a lot of days off from work the last week of rads and work from home so that I could just wear Aquaphor, silvadene and a t-shirt.
Today will be day three of tamoxifen. I've been having hot flashes but they are more intense today, happening at meetings. I'm also very irritable today and my little boy is not "listening" to me or to his theater camp teachers. I received the dreaded "call" at work by the director of the camp today because he grabbed at a little boy when he didn't get something that he wanted, and because he's refusing to follow directions. This year has been a v. big challenge. I feel a little overwhelmed today, and over emotional.
My skin feels so much better now. At its worst I also had to use Vicodin for the pain and couldn't wear a bra or put my arm down, I was going through a tube of Biafine every 2 days, so switched to tubs of Aquaphor and silvadene. It still needs more mosturizer, have to keep doing that.
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Rose, I also had a rash but it wasn't too itchy. It went away almost immediately after treatment ended.
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Congratulations, Pringles!!!! One more to the finish line!
Bold, the dark nip does return to normal - mine is almost there. The dark skin peeled off very slowly, I think by rubbing against your clothing it gently comes off, and now I just have a dark ring around it - which is good, it was really startling looking!!
I must get on the fitness wagon with more enthusiasm!! I have been cooking more low-fat, vegetarian-based or organic chicken meals during the week, which my DH isn't too enthused about, and will let him have some "skinny" meat on the weekends - leaner cuts and such. I've always have been a fruit and veggies lover - unfortunately we don't have any Trader Joes in florida, I think (I love them when I go to NYC or LA), and the nearest Whole Foods is 45 minutes away, so I try to get to the farmers market or fruit stand and load up - I've been Mrs. Cherry the last couple of weeks, because the bings are in season. But, I need to ramp up the exercise now that the breast pain is receding a little. I have a Pilates machine that is pretty dusty - that's going to be cleaned up and brought back to life. We've been trying to power walk with the doggies at night, but it has been ungodly hot (high 90's with humidity to match) and its buggy out too, so we're switching to bicycling. I am definitely not happy with the pudge!
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ivorymom - thanks for the welcome. I'm not taking any other medications. I am pre-diabetic, but it is controlled by diet.
The rash has spread overnight and is going into the treatment field. I'm using the steriod cream, but it has only been one day. I have an appt with my medical oncologist on Monday. Maybe he will have some insight into the problem. I'm also supposed to start Tamoxifen on Monday. My husband told me to ask if we could get over the rash first. I am very much in favor of getting through one round of side-effects at a time!!
I've read through some of your posts, and wish I had known about you guys sooner. It may have helped getting through some of the past few months.
Congratulations to all those done with treatments.
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Welcome, RoseP. I hope your rash gets treated soon! I had an itchy rash during treatment, but it seemed to get better after putting Biafine cream on it. But, wow, that stuff is expensive!
My boost area is very red and tender still. Don't know how long it will take to heal. I had a checkup with my surgeon yesterday and a mammogram. The nurse couldn't believe that it had been scheduled for the same week I finished radiation, but I was determined to get it done. Very painful, but it came back all clear and I won't have another mammogram until January 2010. Woo hoo!
I'm going to try to be diligent about the lowfat diet and exercise, since that's all us triple negative gals have right now. But boy is it hard to eat out, especially here in the South where the preferred cooking method is frying, adding lots of cheese, or both!
Have a good Friday, everyone!
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Carolinachick . . . by the way, I don't know if it's the heat or what, but I took of the bandana at work this morning . . . whether my hair coverage is enough or not . . . and OMG, I haven't had a hot flash ALL morning!!!!
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Good Morning my friends: We do not have any grads today so I will give my cyber liver a break. I am having my first boost today!!! I have a pretty nasty rash. RoseI have heard of your rash before on another thread. It is related to the radiation and can be treated. Hang in there. It should not interfere with hormone treatment. I know that it is awful to take hormone treatment period. Some times tit seems so unnatural to rid our bodies of estrogen, poison it with toxic chemos, burn it with radiation for the benefit of our health. You talk about a oxymoron.
Oh ivorywhat a pisser!!! Just think about Sally Field she is a poster girl for osteoporosis. Can it be reversed? Looks like you will be adding a little weight bearing exercise to your regimine. I use to be very athletic and have slowly gotten away from it, Now I feel so terrible out of shape it is going to be a long haul back, I think starting with walking and weights during the week and kayaking on the weekends and bicycling on the beach would be great. I don't like to bike by my house to many hills. I have my heart function test coming up. That will make me feel better about making it work hard. I have been a little breathless from the Herceptin that I will be on till December.(ugg) I am grateful for it but damn.
I want to make BBQ chicken this weekend. I will get hormone free birds. I like to do that because there are so many easy meals wit left overs.
How was everyones energy level while on boost did it start to improve compared with reg rads? I have been pretty pooped. Hoping to get my normal energizer bunny me back.
Jess Hang in there you are soooo close. I am right behind you.
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Morning Radettes...
Welcome to our thread....RoseP...your rash could be an allergic reaction to something you are taking..? Are you taking any vitamins?
Texas357...I am only on day 4 of Femara and taking 1/2 tabs for 6 days to begin...nothing to shout about yet....
LynnVA...your side effects sounded just like mine and I wasn't afraid to let everyone know how much hurting I was feeling. It helps others to let it all out even the gorey details...that is what this board is all about.
deb-Ohio...Hang in there Dolly...keep it moist with Aquafor that greasy stuff is a lifesaver!!!
jrgolomb....We have panic attacks at the worse times. Our minds play terrible tricks on us and we can't seem to avoid stopping it. It's okay to cry...crying is great therapy. If it continues you may want to see you onco for something to help you.
Hang in there ladies...WE are all STRONG...and we will KICK and FIGHT like a GIRL!!!!
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Yes I would like to tell you the only side effect I have is I do not sweat at all where I had rads.
I put lotion on before I left the room of treatment I have same texture and softness as other breast no shrinkage or pain
I might add two things. My doctor was amazed how well I did and thought I took a lot of vit. and so on.
What did happen the word of cancer and waiting to learn if I would do chemo cause me to lose 22 pounds in four weeks. All I could eat or drink was Topician juice lots of vit. C and a few crackers.
They told me I had to stop losing weight before during the rads treatment. I did.
I think my no side effects and I am fair skined, is the daily dose of vit. C. I craved juice.
I would encourage you all to drink juice before,during and after. Do not forget to use the cream right after treatment
my date is 12 2006 stage 1 grade 1 tubular looking cells
The treatments did not hurt it was just all the trips. My husband were together in the car every day.
I do remember I would become very tired about two hrs later.
I had a new yorkie pup and she sleep with me on the couch when I returned home. She still is in tune with how I feel
And crap I am now back to my old weight and need too lose,but not that way. May God bless you all as you tell your needs.
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Ivorymom - What a bummer! It sounds like you've done what you could have to prevent the osteo. Are you going on meds for it?
chelev - You will be my inspiration to go "topless" soon. I am having a big end of treatment celebration tomorrow night, so maybe I'll take the bandanna off then. Definitely worth it to ease up on the hot flashes!
I didn't notice a difference in fatigue between regular radiation and the boosts. It all wore me out, but nothing compared to chemo. I keep wondering when I'll be back up to my usual energy level.
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Hi ladies...
IVORYMOM...yikes! sorry to hear about the osteoporosis...will your hormone therapy be adjusted to address this? I thought I read somewhere that Tamox or other hormone therapy helps with bone health??? is that right???
LYNNVA...sorry to hear you had such a terrible time with rads...wishing you a fast recovery...
ROSEP...welcome...I, too, am thankful for these boards...found it after chemo but before rads...very helpful but I must admit I try to take the positives without thinking so much about it but take the not-so-hopeful posts (there's a few in other threads) with a grain of salt...
JRGOLOMB...I am dreading the start of Tamox because I've heard so much about the anxiety that it could cause...this BC thing sucks...minor aches and pains sometimes put me on a tailspin...I feel a bump and I literally freezes...there are times I am convinced that, even after all these treatments, I have not beat this disease...I need to remind myself that I have done everything I could and if that's not enough this time around, heck, like CRUISE says I'm ready to KICK and FIGHT like a GIRL...
CHELEV and CAROLINACHICK...I am soooo ready to go topless too...I mean full time as I've gone topless on the weekends and weeknights but still wear a wig at work...I have full coverage now but I think I need to get it shaped a little as the sides and back are way longer than the top...
Be well ladies...
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Hi all,
Next to the last boost was today. Blisters popped last night so there is some pain. It was so good to get home, put on a loose night gown and goop up my breast. A-h-h relief. Monday is the last day. Yes, I feel vulnerable but the discomfort is such that I am more than grateful that the end is in site. Have a nice weekend all.
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Cruise4life - Yes, I take a vitamin, but just a daily vitamin that I have been taking for 10+ years. I guess it could react with the radiation, but not sure.
Thanks to everyone who has responded. I am doing a little better this evening, with the steriod cream. The rash is still there, and actually spreading some to my back and into the treatment field, but it doesn't seem as red or quite as itchy tonight. Perhaps the cream is working.
I am hopeful, with being 10 days removed from the last radiation treatment, that things will start to get better. I was very lucky, compared to some, that I did not blister. My radiation nurse stressed the importance of the radiation cream (I am using X-Clair) and I tried my best to follow her directions. When my treatments started, she told me to expect blistering by the 3rd to 4th week, due to my fair skin. However, I have made it through with no blisters. Even the last couple of days, when the rash completely covered the treatment area as well as the surrounding skin, the techs were amazed at how well my skin looked. I had just a few sore spots below my breast (where the skin rubbed on skin) that have just about healed now.
The fatigue is another issue. I am still working only about 6 hours per day and come home at lunchtime for a long lunch/nap (I live 10 minutes from the office). I try to get 8 - 9 hours sleep per night and am napping on the weekends. The treatments pretty much wiped me out from day 2.
I am also dreading the start of the Tamoxifen - I guess that is why I am looking for excuses not to start - i.e. the rash.
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Hi Radettes! I took off the hat/wig at work today. I took one of my husband's welding caps (surprisingly trendy) with me, but never put it on the whole day. I'm still pretty thin on top and sides, but this was a milestone for me. I'm going to my hairdresser to get a trim around my ears and in the back where its grown the fastest.
Today is day #4 (?) of tamoxifen. Yesterday I noticed that I didn't have my usual emotional reserve / equanimity when things got tough (read: lost it) - - so I think I'm going to have a period of adjusting to this new hormonal milieu. Mind over hormones... My sis is going to take an Insight Meditation class with me this summer, so that should help.
I called my sister-in-law yesterday who started on tamoxifen about five years ago and is now taking femara. Asked her if it was tough emotionally at first. She said no, just the wt. gain was tough, but that she waited around 3 months after rads (against drs advice) before starting tamoxifen because she wanted to give her body time without chemo, rads, drugs. I can totally understand that but am starting now.
Happy Friday everyone, especially to those of you still finishing - - it'll be over soon!
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Congratulations Pringle! have I missed any other graduates! We're crankin'! Only a few more to finish up!
I'm about 10 days out and only have a little redness left where my boosts were. My energy is coming back! I'm trying to eat lowfat and healthy! I haven't gone back to exercise yet as my main form was walking about 5 miles a day on the beach. But, I'm trying to stay out of the sun and it's always sunny.
I may have to join a gym! I've tried walking in hat/long sleeves but I get too hot. And, I get nervous that the sunscreen sweats off of me! hmmmm.......
I'm off to visit my Mom for the weekend. I haven't seen her since I started chemo. She's only a few hours away but she smokes. I didn't want to be around her while in chemo due to the smoke and then radiation kept me too busy!
I'm hoping she'll only smoke away from me. I've worked too hard to get healthy and the thought of her cigarettes nauseates me!
Have a great weekend Rads girls!!!!
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Morning Radettes....
abbie...thanks for popping in and sharing your thoughts.
rosep...looks like the medicine is working on your rash...good news!!!
debonthelake...you are almost done....hang in there...it will get better!!!!!
american...we are all fortunate to know what to look for and we are more aware of our bodies with all that we have gone through. We have the know how and physicians/specialists in the field who know how to care for us. We are survivors and we can handle anything that comes at us. I have told one of my best friends who recently asked me how I was doing...and I just responded to her with...whatever comes at me I will "Fight like a Girl"...so LORD...BRING IT ON!!!!!!
Princess...I too have longer hair in the back of my head...what's up with that? I really need to dye it...mine looks weird with the dark in the back and light GRAY (gguuurrhhh) on top.
lisalisa...You are a strong woman...just ask your mother not to smoke around you. Hopefully she will understand...or visit her at a restaurant where they aren't allowed to smoke.LOL If she smokes in the house you will be able to smell it and it will get to you. Good luck and have a great visit.
Have a great weekend Radettes.....
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I've been away all week on business trip so I've missed a few recent grads
Facecrafter, ajlive, Carolinachick, Pringles Yeah you are done! Cheers! Clink, clink!
I'm going without hats or scarves my hair is really short, but it looks really long to me since I remember not having a bit of it! Well this week I saw a lot of people and many of them gave me an odd look. I think they may have been thinking "that woman thought she'd look good with that severe haircut she is so wrong!" I also had someone refer to me as that woman from New York, I guess because I have this short sticky up hair do. No curls! I'm not surprised, but my Onc practially promised! I'm happy to have hair, whatever!
It feels so good to be done and I guess I didn't notice that my arm was really sore during rads, because it feels really good now and not heavy like it had beenfeeling.
ddlatt you are so right that you made the time for treatment, and exercise is really treatment for us as well isn't it?
I'm still creaming up the breast area and underarm. The doctor said to keep it up at least until the end of July and longer if the coating of grease doesn't make me feel hot.
I've been eating all organic meat and veg for years, and it didn't seem to stop the cancer but I'm staying organic because I think it's just better for you to have less chemicals in your food.
I know I have to work hard to exercise more and eat less. I read somewhere that for BC woman you should strive to be no more than 5 pounds over your weight at age 18. Are they kidding?? Maybe I should have kept all my clothes from high school, ha ha. I have a good friend and her favorite saying is "something is better than nothing" I think it's going to be my new motto.
Because I was away I haven't had a chance to notice that I have 4 extra hours everyday. This week will be so nice.
I hope everyone is healing and finding joy and peace this weekend.
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I ran errands today without my wig! I still won't go to gatherings with friends without it quite yet, but with Houston's 100+ degrees, I just wanted to avoid the extra heat of the wig. It felt AWESOME.
Ha ha -- this coming from someone who spent her entire life hiding her ears from the world because they stick out more than they should.
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Hi May Radiators; I apologize for not keeping up with graduations -- I had to go to cyber detox!
LOL!!
Actually, I had got some distressing news and have been working hard to process it and stay calm... My genetic testing showed I'm BRCA2 positive -- my course of lumpectomy and rads was prob not the optimal choice. Haven't asked if I got the right chemo....
So 30 rads and 4200 miles later, I am looking at bilat mastectomy - the recon options may be limited due to the rads.
The crash from the euphoria of being done is quite the trip! Has to be similar to what women experience with recurrence. Maybe this is a gift -- I can substantially lower my risk now that I know....I can't even begin to wrap my head around new cancer and a repeat of this year. Having a little trouble wrapping it around more surgeries.....but I will get there.
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Hugs to you Kathy! That's got to be stressful news. But if you can get through this past year, you can get through anything!
I just keep telling myself that even the pain from surgery is mostly over in a week or two. Compare that to week after week of chemo, and the drudgery of rads. Yes, it's lots of doctor's appointments and follow ups again but we're old hands at that stuff by now!
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Sorry Kathy. There are probably many of us who will need some cyber detox when this is all over. I probably won't visit daily after July. I'll be back to work and all of that. The BRCA 2 news was a blow and another loss to grieve. But, at least you know you are improving your odds of the cancer not returning. That part of it has to be a comfort. Wow, we have so many feelings during the course of the illness. Good and bad all mixed up in the same bag.
Today I'm really sore. Just one left and I'm so glad. Right now I'm sitting with my blouse open with lots of goop on it. My nipple especially is very sore. But, at least I have a 2 day break and then it's over done finished.
Have a great weekend all.
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Kathy, So sorry to hear of your news and that you have to face more surgeries. Ask if you are a candidate for that DIEP surgery recon option; from photos, it looks the most real to me.
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kt57 - my chemo was taxatere+cytoxin+adrimicin for week 2, followed by taxatere for weeks 2&3. The cycle repeated for a total of 6 cycles. I've now finished readiation (28 sessions) and am searching for skin treatment options. And am starting arimidex tonitr. What's happening with you?
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Good morning ladies! Just following up on the Femara. So far pretty good. My joints are aching, and an old ankle injury is starting to hurt for the first time in yeras. But the pain goes away with Advil. I wish I could find more information about ILC resistance and tamoxifen. Other than the one study that seeks to explain it, I can't find any information about how common it is.
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