Starting Chemo in July 2009

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  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 469
    edited July 2009

    Hi Connie, congrats on making it (and working through) your third day after chemo treatment and vry sorry about your sister :(  ..thanks for the ice chip advise - believe it or not, i even sat on a plastic ice block and inconspicuously put a cold water bottle between my legs.  yes, its true. hair or no hair, im a newlywed so be it!

     Joni 2- I hope that your port heals.  I broke out from the adhesive and had minor skin ripping scales and bumps, washed with etoh and put on bac. Im sure yours is worse tho so hang in there!  Keep us posted.  Joni 1 - how is your port doing?  I hope some info below prepares you for expectations.

    I just had my first tx of AC today.  The place was really nice, comfortable and they give you food and a dvd player to watch movies.  

    I did ok - it's still early though.  

    My first dose was a steroid (decadron) that lasted about 40mins - 10mg in 50ml solution.  Second was an anti nausea (emend) 115mg in 50ml of solution- about 40mins. My third (and fave) was ativan which is an anti-anxiety- 0.5mg in 50ml solution.  Felt pretty darn good.  Of course the above niceties led up to the bittersweet-frienemy, adria.  This just looks like kool aid so thats what it is to me and apparently the red color comes from coral, which probably is the onlything natural in it.  This only took ten minutes to administer 45mls of straight undiluted kool aid.  Note that when you pee for the first time, it looks like a tequila sunrise so dont be alarmed, rather, use the imagery and head to the tiki bar at the sea of cortez, which is beckoning you.  I make no apologies of being weird these days :) The third, the cytoxan I wasn't a fan of at all.  This again is about 45 mls of undiluted friendly posion and you (I) can taste it.  It was 3q thru and the sinus pain came on.  Like being outside in the cold dry air and breathing in.  This doesn't last though.

    All in all, I made it through.  Right now, I only have a stiff neck (from the odd placement of my body during the port surgery). And sl acid reflux - very slight. ..just overall feel like Im getting a cold or so w some achiness.  Came home to gorgeous flowers in the garden from my new mother in law and homeade chix soup.  I am so lucky.

    Also, met three new amazing ladies who will take jin jun (sp?) and reike with me- one who was just finishing her 3tx for uterine cancer and looks fantastic! Different meds, same war. She mentioned this catalog to me by ACS and has inexpensive hats, scarves, good turbons (not weird carmen miranda types but cute ones and also plain skull caps.  also has boob stuff, swim suits and some pretty inexpensive wigs (synthetic) even if its not your thing, could be fun to try on a different attitude every now and again - just don't bake cookies in them!  website: www.tlcdirect.org 1-800-850-9445  Im going to rock the bonnie pixie in dark brown - they take all returns too I hear.

    Peace Js - jugless'ish bc of my partial mas. 

  • Hopeful-1
    Hopeful-1 Member Posts: 72
    edited July 2009

    Hello PS73,

    Sounds like your first day of chemo went well.  I think your chemo treatment is very similar to mine. Congratulations to you newlyweds.  You definitely sound up-beat and positive and that can only help the situation.

    Have a wonderful night and drink plenty of fluids to flush the toxins out. 

     I got some really nice chemo wraps today and my husband thought they were rockin too so that made me happy. 

    Hope you sleep well tonight.

    Connie

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited July 2009

    PS73~ thanks for the play by play. I'm a detail person so that is all so helpful to me. Glad you made it through fairly uneventful and how nice to come home to soup & flowers!! You deserve it!

    The port hurt like crazy today. Came home and took a  pain pill...it has settled down somewhat. I thought about you getting yours used today. I know we will be glad we have a port down the road a few weeks. Hope you get a good night's rest...joni(1)

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited July 2009

    PS73~ thanks for the play by play. I'm a detail person so that is all so helpful to me. Glad you made it through fairly uneventful and how nice to come home to soup & flowers!! You deserve it!

    The port hurt like crazy today. Came home and took a  pain pill...it has settled down somewhat. I thought about you getting yours used today. I know we will be glad we have a port down the road a few weeks. Hope you get a good night's rest...joni(1)

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 469
    edited July 2009

    ***note - the inconspicuous placement of the cold water bottle between my legs was more of a  'driving in your car with a bottled beverage fashion' and less of a 'im a porn star at the clinic'.  ...just read the kool aid affects your mucuous membranes and the cold constricts the blood vessels and therefore doesn't effect as much.  They toyed w/ using cold on hair (of course I asked) but the results were a numb bald head.

    Joni - it didn't hurt at all - keep it in mind.  they numbed the area with a cold spray and stuck it in no pain at all!

    shalom

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 469
    edited July 2009

    Yes. hopeful, joni 1 and dianne and I are on almost the exact same reg give or take a few.  going to wtch a movie.  just ate wedding cake yum. steroids are making me a little hoppy.  ill stop posting for tonight - im a little obsessed and couldn't wait to come home to report in to the july gals.  i wonder if any men are or have been on this site?  im rambling.  ciao.  water next.

  • backagain
    backagain Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2009

    Went to "Chemo Education" at the onc's office today, but they didn't tell me anything I hadn't learned here!  I get my port tomorrow.  

    PS73 - You are cracking me up "i'm a porn star at the clinic". LOL I just ordered from the tlc website yesterday.  They do have a lot of reasonably priced stuff.

    Joni (1) - I go back to work on August 3rd which will also be my 2nd tx.  I'm a school media specialist and I'm just going to play it by ear and work as much as I can without overdoing it.  My boss is very understanding and I have a fabulous assistant who will pick up the slack.  I told them that I had no idea how much time I would miss.  I was hoping to be further along before school started but all the testing really dragged on.  Oh well - Monday will be chemo #1 - anybody else starting next week?

     

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited July 2009

    PS73-you made me laugh out loud sitting here in the dark reading the posts "I'm a porn star @ the clinic"!!!  My 14 yr old already thinks I'm starting to go loony on her so I'm sure the loud cackling is adding to that perception.

    Joni1-I feel for you girl.  I used more pain pills during that 1st week & 1/2 after port placement than I did the entire time recovering from the lumpectomy, BUT yesterday & today no pain pills-hooray!

    To all-I'll be in the chair @ 8:30AM PDT getting the 1st round-send good thoughts & prayers if you don't mind!  

    Joni2

  • Hopeful-1
    Hopeful-1 Member Posts: 72
    edited July 2009

    Hello All,

    Hope everyone is doing well and staying upbeat.  Today is my day 4 and I slept really well after taking a benadryl last night.  I'm still feeling really good.  I hope it lasts.  I'm still drinking lots of water and fluids and taking all meds as prescribed. One of my sisters will pick up my wig prescription today from my Oncologist office for me since I will probably loose my hair within the next 14 days. My hair was long, is now cut short as of last Saturday so I can donate it to Locks of Love.  I wanted something good to come out of this not so good situation.

    I wish everyone beautiful day!

    Connie

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 469
    edited July 2009

    backagain - good luck with the port, it hurts like a bitch but its the new black.  save for a large rocklike protrusion that is in your chest, it is such a savior.  No more drug addict arms - yah.

    joni2 - good luck with that - will be thinking of you, i wonder if the adria looks like koolaid in OR? please let us allknow how you do!!!  you will be great and realize that all of this mental scariness is just that.

     backagain - yes I agree.  the only info i could not find was the expectation on the first day.  I should have looked harder as im sure it was on this site.   in case they don't have it: bring lots of water. bring gatorade (you can mix1:1 when you are halfway done w/ your water if you gettired of water), i had all kinds of books/blankets/mags/movies/phone with phone charger/water/gatorade/ with me but you talk to the nurse so much you just don't get that chance to be alone.  we were told no sex w/o condoms the first three days so my hsb wouldn't get chemo.  weird right!

     So Connie, you are my fearless leader.  Day four and grande.  So happy dear. Im sure you will be gorgeous w/ short hair.  Keep it up, you give me hope :)

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited July 2009

    PS73~ you are cracking me up.....i'm wondering if they tell everyone about the condoms or just those who have water bottles between their legs??? So funny!!!!

    Connie~ you have been great encouragement so far, don't feel bad to let us know when there are bad days as well. I'll be following in your steps soon.

    joni(2)- thinking of you and knowing you will do great. Let us know how you are when you feel up to  it.

    backagain(Nancy)~ the port will be a blessing....yes, i've had some pain with mine the past 2 days, but it's getting better. My goal is no more pain pills today.

    Guzzling coffee till 7:30, then can't have anything but water all day till PET/CT scans.

    Have a great day ladies....you're all heroes to me..

    Joni(1)

  • stef58
    stef58 Member Posts: 288
    edited July 2009

    Hello everyone, Yes they told me the same thing. You have to ask to get this stuff out of them. They must thing we are all hermits. Hope everyone is copeing. With everyone with the A/C. it does get better. Watch the mouth. When it starts to get sore. Gargle with the salt and soda every two hours. I got a sore mouth and did this and it helped. Thougt I was over them. Gums are sore this morning but not bad. Taste buds do return. Have a great day. I am going to the hay field to cut hay. Dianne

  • PAP
    PAP Member Posts: 142
    edited July 2009

    Hi July Girls...I just had my second tx of Taxotere and Cytoxan three days ago so I'm only three weeks ahead of you.  My first round went really well except for headaches.  I was drinking tons of water but losing lots of electrolytes, so learned to add Gatorade or added sugarfree elcectrolytes to my water beginning day one and have not had one headache....hooray!  This second round on day two felt very light headed and had nausea issues so took additional anti-nausea med over and above the Emend.  Really helped and woke up this morning feeling good so far.  Last time days four and five were my low energy and very headachey days, hoping to bypass it this time around.  BTW for any of you who want to question receiving the Neulasta shot, I asked my  onc on the first round if I could by pass it and he said we could see how I do.  My white blood count was not too bad on day 10 (lowest Nadir) and then bounced right back for tx two, so again I was able to get by without it.  After hearing about the side effects and the cost from the June Chemo ladies, I decided to ask and the doc agreed to let me try without....it worked!  However, I've been on supplements from the naturopath and also receiving acupuncture so thay may be contributing to my overall health.  Acupuncture is also really good for any side effects from chemo if any of you wonderful ladies are interested.  I have also heard if you get any neuropathy in your hands or feet to take B6 supplement along with a B complex.  Astralagus is an herb to help rebuild the white blood cells....so far haven't needed it, but might give it a try in an effort to avoid the Neulasta.  Patti

  • nowaynotnow
    nowaynotnow Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2009

    Ok Ladies I realize I'm still pretty new to this, but I'm on day 9 and feel great! I did go to the dr today for CBC and my WBC were pretty much nonexistent, I was at a very dangerous level. I think 1, not sure what it is suppose to be. Anyway she gave me the Neulasta and told me to go home and stay there.

    I keeping thinking there is something she is not telling me and I suddenly going to get sick as a dog. She says no, I'm handling it well. I'm getting 6 cycles of TAC. I have heard each tx compounds but how much worse will it get? I have been very proactive as far as meds, getting rest, biotene, fluids, and I have been working out every day. I wish there were somewhere that broke down a tx cycle by cycle, to see how each is different.

  • BrittaA
    BrittaA Member Posts: 56
    edited July 2009

    Hi Paulding mom,

    It's so overwhelming that in addition to going through cancer treatments, you have to worry about how to pay for your care. I know it was extremely stressful for my family - I'm a cancer survivor and went through chemotherapy and radiation and so did my father who went  through treatments for colon cancer, and navigating insurance, co-pays and coverage was awful for all of us. I did a recent post on my blog (www.Cincovidas.com)  about managing the costs of treatments that may be helpful for you - http://blog.cincovidas.com/managing-the-costs-of-treatment .

    Also, if you decide to purchase a wig here is a post I wrote on how to get your insurance to cover most to all of the cost http://blog.cincovidas.com/i%e2%80%99m-going-through-chemo-and-i-need-a-wig-will-my-insurance-cover-it .

    Lastly, saw that you are starting on Neulasta. I just did a post on what to expect from this drug http://blog.cincovidas.com/what-is-the-drug-neulasta-what-does-it-do-will-it-make-my-hair-fall-out

    I hope this helps.

    Love, strength and survival, Britta

  • Kathy16
    Kathy16 Member Posts: 135
    edited July 2009

    Patti - I did begin to have a little neuropathy and the onc nurse did say "B-6" up to 300 mg per day.  Also, someone talked about a big "stomach ache" and I was placed on pepcid ac twice a day over the counter from now till the end of chemo - but of course ask your own oncs first.  It has helped a little.

    Carole, Lori & others who expressed fear - I am totally with you.  I already had one treatment, I'm lucky I don't have to have Adrymyacin, but I'm still afraid to go for round 2.  It's been a week, symptoms have been manageable thanks to my docs, but I still don't feel wonderful.  I think what some ladies are doing in assembling their supplies is really empowering and helpful - don't forget the Biotene mouthwash and soft aloe wipes of some sort (chemo hurts on the way out).  I've also used a lot of hand sanitizer, gatorade and soda which goes down better than water.  For me I think on the T/C tougher effects last for about a week - but I worked yesterday and it was a mistake.

     Has anyone tried to work through this stuff?  I think I'm at least going to have to take off a week after each treatment to rebound - I worked yesterday and ended up with a 100 degree fever last night which is down today (my blood cts are okay this week).  I'm off today and feel a lot better, but tired out in afternoon. 

    Would also love to hear from anyone who decided on mastectomy and reconstruction and is considering radiation. This is new research and today radiologist said it could cut chance of seeing it again by up to 20% for some women who have less than 4 nodes and in 1/4 women prevents recurrence.  My nodes are in controversy b/c they weren't sure if one was a inter mammary, but radiologist said to count it, so I guess now I'm 3/11 she said.  Of course, you don't know if you're the woman it will help by the 20% or if you're the 1/4, so it's a hard decision. 

    God bless and thank you, thank you for all the posts and information and sense of humor - I do read it all just can't respond to everyone. 

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited July 2009

    PS73: thank you for the play by play...port goes in on the 15th and I am starting to get nervous...knowing what to expect helps.

    Joni1: how about July Jedi's Jugs-or-nots??

    Joni2: thinking of you and sending positive thoughts for a stress free tx

    Britta: thank you for the links...

    I am so happy to read that the majority of our July Jedi's (Jugs-or-nots) are having minimal SE's with their tx's...thank you to all for sharing their tips...here is to continuing the trend...

    <<<HUGS>>>

  • stef58
    stef58 Member Posts: 288
    edited July 2009

    Everybody that has the neulasta or thinking about it. It is not that bad so far. Had it last week. The hips hurt some but take Aleve, Claritin, and Ibuprofen. The benefits of this drug outweigh the costs. I f it helps you get through your treatments Power to the shot. It has keep my Count in a good range this week, To the people who work after chemo treatments good for you. I had to sleep most of the first week. I got some different anti nausea that will not make me as sleeepy.

    Kathy16, Had a mastecomy  and tissue expander. It is very doeable. Iwould like to more about the radition study, had 1 positive node. Strength and Hugs Dianne

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited July 2009

     I've had a busy morning at the hospital. I was scheduled for a C/T scan at 9am to be followed by an MRI. When I checked in I was asked had I taken my "prep". What prep, I was just told no food or drink after midnight -easy peasy. So the tech mixed up almost a liter of artificial lemon flavored stuff and said it takes a couple of hours to work so we'll do your MRI first. I worked really hard at not moving and not being freaked out in the tube. I sang songs in my head and recited multiplication tables (!) and then she pulled me out. She was having computer problems and needed to reboot. Of course this meant she had to start over with me.

    After a break on to the C/T scan. The tech had trouble getting the IV in and sent for the nurse. Told me I might want to burp with the crystal stuff, but try not to. When he injected the contrast he said you might feel a warm flush and some people feel like they need to pee, but you won't. Well I did feel like that and had to check to make sure I hadn't pee-ed.

    Back home and I'm sitting with my laptop checking out the posts and I'm passing gas (those burps?) and I think oh sh$t - literally. I dash to the bathroom with new undies. Sheesh. It's a long time since I pooped my pants. Anybody have loose bowel reactions to C/T fluids? Nobody warned me about it. I'm glad I was home!!

    otobehealthy - I get my port on the 15th too. Do you have a start date for chemo? I don't yet as I still have scans to do next week.

    I'll keep thinking good thoughts for all you ladies about to get/just had/recovering from chemo.

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited July 2009

    Hi Triple J's,

    I'm home from Tx #1. Feeling OK except I'm pooped & plan on hitting the sheets in just a minute but wanted you all to know I survived and it was not near as bad as I had built it up in my mind.  I'll check in after my nap with a few more details.

    Joni2 

  • TCGGal
    TCGGal Member Posts: 137
    edited July 2009

    I am a June girl, but I was in the bathroom at the hospital, so worried I was gonna have an accident...ugh.

  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited July 2009

    Gill~ started having gas today with PET/CT, right in the tunnel. I remembered the guy had told me it would only be 18 minutes, so probably about 10 mins. into it the gas started coming. I just thought ..Oh well, they just said "Don't move", and I felt I could expel gas without "moving", so I let 'er rip.  Then as I laid there I had these visions of some cloud showing up on the film/screen and people getting a good laugh. PLEASE tell me it can't happen!!!! Now waiting for results..

     Joni(2)~Hope you got a nice,long nap. Sounds like what we work up in our minds about all this, is way overrated. Hope for a good day for you tomorrow.

    I have to tell you all i was so disappointed today when I went in for the scans. They wanted bloodwork first...I said,"oh, ok I have a port" they said, "oh we don't use ports for blood draws unless you're having a chemo treatment that day". So I got a nice stick in my overused left arm. Then drank the barium sat around for an hour. Go back for pet scan, " We need to start an IV ", I said," I have a port". "Oh we don't use that for this." What the????? Here I thought with the port I'd never get stuck again...False advertising if  you ask me.

    Great posts everyone, lots of successes so far, mild se's, I know we are going to make it July Jedi Jugs or Nots......

    Joni(1)

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited July 2009

    Gilly:I am so happy yo have a port buddy...Just got off the phone with Onc's office - they hope to get me started between 22nd - 29th. I am on a clinical trial for HER2+ so they have to cross t's and dot i's and do a bunch of yada yada before starting. I told them to geter done cause I was staying with my July support group...I still have to get MUGA/Echo and labs but when I called they said no MRI or CT for me, confusing huh...

    Joni1:  I was pre-warned that the only ones who will use the port would be the chemo nurses - I think it is mainly to avoid infection, sorry you had to learn the hard way...

    CT contrast reactions...my son had a CT a couple of yrs ago in ER (had to get his appendix out)...they admitted him but did not bother to warn us about the explosive diarrah that can come with the contrast...needless to say , it was a very long night of changing bedsheets and a very embarrassed 12 yr boy...geesh you would like they could warn us about this stuff ahead of time...

    Joni2: Thanks for checking in, hope you able to take a nice long nap and nice easy day tomorrow.

    Have a GREAT night everyone, wishing peaceful and uninterrupted to sleep to all...

  • lorijo1993
    lorijo1993 Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2009

    well I really hope that chemo is kind, because I was told that if I stay out of work one more month I will loose my position, I can go back part time, maybe work 2 days a week (I work 12 hour shifts)but what if I can't do the 12 hours, I have been off for 5 weeks for the last 2 surgeries and was off 2 weeks for my lumpectomy and took off 10 days to help my Daughter after her c-section (that was the most painful time, NOT,haha).now I have used alot of my time, Heck I just got my last drain out last week.

    My port also goes in on the 15th so does the chemo,

    Jacee- most of the people that start IV's in radiology are not RN's and can't access the port, some radiology departments have RNs available but they may not be experienced at drawing from a port. I know it if frustrating, but you want to be sure that who ever draws from your port knows what they are doing.

  • backagain
    backagain Member Posts: 34
    edited July 2009

    Hi girls - just home from port surgery.  I had a general and it all went well, about 45 minutes in the OR.  Surgeon was a little concerned that my past radiation might cause some issues, but all was good.  Sitting here with a bag of frozen peas over the site and my trusty laptop.  Not much pain yet, but just sent hubby out for the meds which I will take.  It took 4 tries to get a vein for my IV so I guess I'll be glad to have the port come Monday.

    Joni (2): Cross one off the calendar!

    Gilly: Hated the MRI's Especially the abdominal ones when I had to hold my breath.  I was sure I was going to run out of air and that just added to the anxiety.

    Anybody else starting chemo on Monday? 

  • elisheva
    elisheva Member Posts: 80
    edited July 2009

    Joni,

    Please tell us how you are doing. What regimen are you having? I hope you are feeling well.

    Elisheva.

  • PS73
    PS73 Member Posts: 469
    edited July 2009

    lorijo - fmla is an organization out there to help you if you need time off.  you get 12 weeks (unpaid unfortunately) but it guarantees your job.  you don't need to tell your supervisors anything just that you need the time off.  if you can't find info pm me and ill dig it up, i know i have it somewhere.  it stands for family leave act.

    joni2 - woohoo.  one down!!

     uggh the CT/Bone scan was the worst!!  i had the worst gas and we had two apts after.  it was nasty, i was in and out of the bathroom.

    im one day post first tx.  just have some mild acid reflux. got a little tired and took a three hour nap.  used my anti nauseas twice and had my neulasta.  nothing different pre-cancer save all the drugs.  still tired.  ciao js. 

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited July 2009

    Evening everyone,

     Had a nice nap.  Feel pretty darn good considering!  Took the dog for a long walk and am contemplating a baked potato for dinner, with less toppings than normal but a few just the same. 

    Turned out I was acquainted with my infusion nurse; her daughter & mine played soccer together several years ago.  She was very kind, informative, and it made it less stressful to know who was poking me!

    The anti-nausea drugs she said will last about 3 days & I am to start the oral drugs this evening before bed, take one or two each night & each morning for 4 days.  I have an additional script for break-thru nausea to take if I get hit unexpectedly-planning on NOT using that.  Have I stated how absolutely MUCH I HATE to vomit?????

    So, tonight it's low 80s here in Medford & my scalp is sweaty! Psychomatic?

    Joni2  

               

  • Eph3_12
    Eph3_12 Member Posts: 4,781
    edited July 2009

    Oh sorry, my treatment is Taxotere & Cytoxan, followed up by the injection of Neulasta tomorrow. 

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 2,101
    edited July 2009
    Yea! Joni2 so happy to hear your first day is going so well!

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