Does anyone work in oncology?

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Jorf
Jorf Member Posts: 498
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer
Does anyone work in oncology?

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  • Jorf
    Jorf Member Posts: 498
    edited June 2009

    IThere are or were at least a couple of women here who, I think, work in an oncology related field and I'd really like to talk with you.

    I walked into work this morning and passed my (brand new) oncologist in the hallway and she asked me if I would be interested in working with her. I'm a nurse practitioner currently doing endocrinology, mostly diabetes. I love my work but I am definitely considering her offer.

    I'm wondering how that feels to people who are survivors? I'm 3 years out. I struggled a lot with it this spring and think I turned a corner about it - did a lot of mourning and crying this anniversary season.

    It's an interesting door to have open in front of me. Funny, I just saw my neighbor who had her surgery already and was just starting chemo a few days after we talked. She was nervous about the neupogen shots and I offered to do them for her. Maybe that was part of the crack in the universe if you believe in that kind of thing.

    Anyway, any leads would be greatly appreciated.

  • Blundin2005
    Blundin2005 Member Posts: 1,167
    edited June 2009

    Hi Jorf,

    No, I don't work in oncology.  My background was over 20 years an administrator for physician practice of anesthesiology.  Yes, the paper pusher...I kept the papers out of their way so they had the time to do good medicine.   I have a very high regard for the medical profession.

    What came to my mind when you wrote about the doctor's offer was that your personal experience combined with your professional experience would bring a depth of knowledge and care that could only benefit every patient you came in contact with--even under the constraints of limited visit time.  It would be enriching for you as well to stay in touch with current information.

    Equally important is caring for your own health.  I remember one thread here when you talked about the pressure to return to work when it seemed to me that you were the most important patient that day!  Needless to say that the work of oncology is not the same as an OB unit--the feel good department in the hospital.  I remember staff who went to OB after a rough day, just to feel the positive energy there.  These are personal as well as professional choices for you to make.

    Endocrinology is a fascinating field and if you are happy where you are, what is the need to change?   If it's the money...I'd say don't do it.  If it's the science calling you, then how can you not do it when this is your creative side?  Important is to follow your instincts and trust them don't you think?  My rule of thumb is that if it's not clear in this moment--or at least 70% clear--then wait until it is.  My husband likes to say "no one is chasing us".  

    Best wishes,

  • Jorf
    Jorf Member Posts: 498
    edited June 2009

    What wise and wonderful thoughts. Thank you.

    Funny, I used to work as a labor and delivery nurse. It got to the point that I couldn't stand it any more. As I said at the time, "If I have to stand there for another 8 hours saying, 'You're doing great, you're doing great' to someone in huge pain I'll go crazy!"

    There's a lot to think about and I absolutely don't have to come to a conclusion now. Right now she just wants to know if I want to talk about it.

    Thanks.

  • Member_of_the_Club
    Member_of_the_Club Member Posts: 3,646
    edited June 2009

    The nurses working with my oncologist are some of the loveliest people I've met.  Many have been doing this work for years so I assume they find it rewarding.  I do remember one once saying there is a shortage because a lot of people feel they can't do the work.  Perhaps you should ask yourself if working with cancer patients will increase your own anxiety about your health.  How would you feel if you had a patient whose breast cancer started out just like yours but became metastatic?  How hardwould it be for you to work with that patient?

    Good luck.  Talk more. See how it feels. 

  • dreamwriter
    dreamwriter Member Posts: 3,255
    edited June 2009

    I second what Blundin said.  I was in insurance... sorry no medical background.  But I would have loved to have spoken with someone who had already walked my path.

  • Jorf
    Jorf Member Posts: 498
    edited June 2009

    MOTC - That's definitely one of the biggies in my consideration. There really is so much to think about with this...

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited June 2009

    I fell into oncology counseling for families long before I was dx'd.  It was very satisfying to be able to offer solutions to problems they had not even thought of, and to present options for them and their patient.  I even educated the docs in this small town to accept and refer for Reach to Recovery. 

    When I left that position after several years, I had volunteered for counseling with battered women.  After thinking it over for a week or two, I had to decline to take the position because I was so burned out with difficult, neverending, sad, sad cases.  It was for my own mental health.

    Talking with the doc would be a good beginning---see exactly what is expected.  If you were doing more tech. things: chemo, meds, etc, --- nursing activities rather than the deep emotional, intimate aspects of cancer and death and dying--you may enjoy the ability to DO something for and with the patients.

    The local nuse navigator for breast cancer is a survivor of ovarian cancer and seems to love what she is doing.  As nurses, we seem to do well when we can accomplish something and have a positive response to the action we take.  At least, I do.

    You will benefit from researching this position, and likely will kick yourself if you don't at least ck. it out.  Do try to be completely honest with yourself ---- know how much you can take and project as to how you will feel.  Ck. with some other nurses, NP's at cancer centers and see what they like and don't like.  It may help.

    Good luck---don't feel you have to change just because it's been offered.

  • junie
    junie Member Posts: 1,216
    edited June 2009

    jorf--how exciting to have a decision like this to mull over.   I really can't add much--the other posts, especially Blundin's, are most eloquent.   No medical background--other than being a patient!!!   My entire working life was under one particular "umbrella".   Several dif jobs over the years.   At one point, I was asked if I'd consider a lateral move into a position in an area totally alien to me.   No promotion...but it opened up a whole new world to me!  I could write a novel about that career move--but, long story short--it was fantastic; no regrets--just be careful if you decide to make a move--don't burn any bridges!!  Good Luck!!!! 

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited June 2009

    Hey, Jorf, that sounds so cool just to be asked. Dotti is right--check it out before you say no.

    I'm an NP, too, but work with college kids. I used to want to work oncology, but unless I got offered parttime, it wouldn't be for me!

    I think the big thing to ask your doc is "why"--because you're a damn fine NP, or because you're a survivor, or both? ANd, would your doc want you to talk to patients regularly about having had cancer, or just bring it up on occasion, if ever?

    And you need to examine how YOU feel about being a survivor working with people who may not survive. While you will be a model for some patients (that yes, we survive and keep working) there are others who won't be able to ever see that for themselves.

    It's a lot of philosophical stuff, really, that both you and your doc should be square on. It may turn out to be an ideal job, or a great stepping stone. Or you may find that you can give more of yourself to the endocrine patients.

    I wish I could help more. I'm sure you're asking yourself these same questions. I hope to make my next job in Hospice, but the time's not quite right for me yet...

    Anne

  • Jorf
    Jorf Member Posts: 498
    edited June 2009

    Thanks to everyone on your insightful and helpful responses (here and in PMs).

    Interesting question, Anne, about wondering if my being a survivor is part of why she asked or if just happeneing to see me made her think it might be a good idea just b/c I'm an NP. Something good to ask her!

  • gracejon
    gracejon Member Posts: 972
    edited June 2009

    6months after I finished chemo, I was asked to relieve for the summer in peds heme onc.  Certainly not the same thing as working with breast cancer but I found emotionally I had even a more difficult time than usual.  I think my teens appreciated the fact that someone had experienced chemo and  had a port.  I found myself not letting go of my own experience.  Moving on was a bit more difficult I think.  I did enjoy the challenge but think it may have been just a bit too personal.  I cherish the time I spent with the kids and wonder if I had stayed would I been able to move on.  I was pleased however to get back to my old job.

  • KAK
    KAK Member Posts: 1,679
    edited June 2009

    Jorf, when I PM'd you just now, I didn't realize you were an NP! 

    I think Blundin had some great things to say that I agree with wholeheartedly.  I also think that you have to feel right about it & you have to feel confident in your ability to handle unexpected feelings that come up with patients.  But I'll tell you that, as a PT, every injury, every surgery, every illness I've had has just served to make me a better clinician because I choose that.   I choose to learn from my own experience and then bring that right back to my patients & I choose to allow my experience to deepen my own compassion.  But it's a demanding choice in terms of my own emotions sometimes, and I always have to be sure I'm also able to maintain my professional objectivity.

    I'll tell you what, though, every cancer patient I've treated since my own adventure began  --- and not just the breast cancer ones, but ALL of them! --- that I have chosen to share the fact of my survivorship with has immediately felt that they could trust me more profoundly.  It has created an instant bond & rapport with my patients that has only facilitated the therapeutic relationship, believe me.   When you think about what any of us wants from any doctor or clinician who treats us, perhaps the biggest thing is that we want them to understand what we're going through & to feel compassion for us.  

    I've also found that other clinicians and physicians feel that I have more credibility when they know that I've been through something their patients need treatment for.  Long before I had breast cancer, I had herniated lumbar disks & finally a diskectomy.   I can't tell you how much cred that gave me with the local ortho's & neurosurgeons when they refer patients, because they know me & see that I've had a fabulous outcome & recovery from all my back & radicular pain.  So, they know I can set a fine example to their patients!!   Ditto breast cancer now (although I'm still a "work in progress!").

    It's tricky, though, all of this.  And the decision has to be an individual one.

    Best of luck to you. 

  • pbcc1
    pbcc1 Member Posts: 659
    edited June 2009

    I think you have been offered an opportunity to help even more. I am also 3 years out. I now work at an inpatient hospice, and I handle the cancer patients just as any others. It does help, however, to know how they feel.

    I say go for it... you should be great at it, and the fact that you are a survivor lends even more credibility to your answers, as well as showing "living proof" that we survivors do exist !!

    Good luck on your decision.

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