Nervouse about getting prosthesis for the first time
I had a bilteral mastectomy on May 8th and have opted not to get any reconstruction. I only had cancer in my left breast but decided that I didn't want to be lopsided. Emotionally, I have been doing great for all that that has happened ... until now. I am dragging my feet on getting prosthesis--I am nervous just thinking about going. Do any of you have any suggestions on making this experience easier?
I think I am going to go to Norstroms for my first fitting and everything.
Thanks,
Beth
I tried to fix the spelling for Nervous--but I couldn't edit topic title. sorry
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Hi Beth,
I've heard good things about the fitters at Nordstrom, so that might be a good place to start. They carry Amoena products, which are probably the most widely sold mastectomy products in the U.S. Amoena makes a large selection of forms and bras, so hopefully you'll find something that's comfortable and looks good.
You might want to check out my non-profit website, BreastFree.org. There's a lot of information and support on the site and reading through the sections on Breast Forms and the one on Bras and Camisoles might give you a better sense of the types of products that are out there.
I was very nervous about my first fitting, too. I've since discovered that finding the right forms and bras can be a process of trial and error. As you heal and also get used to your chest, it can take a while to figure out what's best for you. With a bilateral you may even change your mind about the size you want. At first, I wanted to be just like I was before--large B/small C--but over time I've gone smaller and now generally wear forms that work in a 34A bra.
Good luck!
Barbara
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Beth, you do not have to hurry or meet anyone else's schedule to get fitted for a prosthesis, especially if you've had a bilateral mast. After all, no one can claim (like the fitter did to me) that you need to wear a prosthesis because the difference in weight on your chest will cause your spine to curve! (My remaining breast is approx. 36A, so I argued that the difference in weight was trivial.)
One of our BCO "sisters" manages a website called "breastfree" (http://www.breastfree.org/) that she created to help women who were considering, or already dealing with, bilateral mastectomy without recon. Her screen name is "Erica" (real name is Barbara). I'm sure she'll come along any time now, to help with your question.
Being fitted for a prosthesis can be a satisfying, fulfilling experience, or it can be psychologically traumatic. IMHO, it all depends on how ready we are and how competent and compassionate the fitter is.
There is a thread on this forum that deals with our "first fitting." I'll try to find it and bump it to the top of the list.
Hugs...
otter
[There--see? Barbara posted just ahead of me!]
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Hi Beth,
I had a double mastectomy-no reconstruction-on January 20, 2009
And YESTERDAY I got my first prothesis forms!!!!!
I agree, there is no hurry, and do this when you feel healed and comfortable.
I was in no hurry and I actually enjoyed being 'breast free' and or wearing the cami with forms, but the cami got hot with summer approaching and have found it difficult to wear some clothes and decided it was time to go get fitted.
I went to Nordstrom and would recommend them highly.
They were great-very discreet and will file all the insurance forms for me---a big plus--I did not pay anything yesterday and Nordstrom will bill my credit card after insurance is confirmed--my insurance pays 90% of the forms and bras (up to 4 bras.) ---I am grateful for that!!!!
I just got off the phone with the fitter--as I love the forms but they just don't fit the bra correctly so I am going back tomorrow to try on more bras---I think this is par for the course---and just part of the process and fitting us as individuals---we are all different!!!
Good luck!!!!!
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Beth
I suspect most people are a little nervous.There is no way around trying on a lot of bras and forms. If you can't find something- wait. I got a form the first time, but couldn't find a bra that fit. eventually they found one that fit me. In the mean time, I just used the form in a regular bra.
trish
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Hi Beth,
I had mx on Feb 11th and I just went for my prosthesis and bras last week. I guess I wasn't really feeling up to it before then. A friend offered to go with me but I actually felt better going alone. I wasn't emotional for the fitting and I think it's because I was ready to do it.
You'll know when you are ready. I found the fitter to be very professional and discreet. I was a little self concious about my scar but she quickly alleviated that with her friendliness and kind nature. Believe me...they have seen it all.
Beth P
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Beth,
I had a bi mast in September. I waited until January to get prosthesis and bras. I went to a local mastectomy supply shop. I already knew the owner/fitter because I ordered some camisoles through the store before the surgery. The whole process was amusing to me, I think because I had sort of gotten used to being flat chested. When I tried on the first set of forms I burst out laughing - those 'bumps' on my chest really looked funny to me. And when I wore the forms in public for the first time, I felt like a teenager. These days I usually save my forms for formal occasions.
Anyway, if you are nervous I suggest making the appointment for your fitting in person so you get a feel for the store. Also, take a friend along if you think that would make you feel better. Finally, I do agree with the folks who say there is no need get forms before you want to. And if you never want to, don't worry about it.
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I just called my surgeon's office to ask for a scrip and they said that I should wait a couple of more weeks to heal. My problem is that I feel self-conscious without anything, and odd if I use the camisole. I have tried using my old bras and put the cotton fluff in that--which didn't fit all that great to begin with and they ride up.
I am still nervous, but I want to "get this show on the rode". I am also waiting for my oncotype test results (which is going on 4 weeks now due to a clerical error), so I feel that it is just one more thing that I have to wait for. Blah, blah, blah...
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Hi Beth - Hope this helps some as you take the next step. I was ready before they would let me - partly because we had a cruise planned before all of this started! The poofy just didn't match and was awkward. When I tried to make an appointment, they told me that I wasn't ready - that it had to be at least 8 weeks before I could get a prosthesis! I agree that I had never had this experience before, so couldn't really guess how it would feel, but I knew my incision! I requested that they at least fit me for a foam type prosthesis, and they reluctantly scheduled me for the next week! When I went in, the "girl" was amazed! "WOW - you really are healed well!" Anyway, the foam was MUCH better than the poofy and worked well for our trip. I was re-fit for the silicone prosthesis once we came home and am very pleased with the shape, match etc. It doesn't seem too hot, fits my bra well, and feels better than the foam! Maybe it helps that the prosthesis is in a cover and then inside the bra pocket also. There's no rush, we're all different, so it's OK to wait if you want.
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The lady who fitted me was very easy to deal with. They've seen it all and at a classy place like Nordstrom they'll be easy.
One thing I will note is that a properly fitted bra is most likely tighter than you're used to. After being measured I came down a band size from what I thought I was. While your scar may be healed your chest may be uncomfortable in the newly fitted bra.
I hope it goes well for you!
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I had bilateral mastectomy on 01/26/09. I recently got fitted, once my scar and the burns from radiation healed. I went through a medical prosthesis compay. I heard about nordstroms so one day I was at the mall with my 21 year old son and I told him lets go and see the prosthesis and bras, I looked around the whole bra section area and could not find them so I asked one of the workers and she said yes we have them so I followed her thinking there was a section I missed, No . she went towards the back behind the storage doors and came back with 2 bras and a prosthesis. she was nice, but I felt awkward like there was something to hide. i couldnt just go look at them on my own on a rack, even if they just had a small area, not hidden behind the storage doors. My son asked me why do they have them hiding. I told him maybe they don't want the other women to feel bad like breast cancer and women without boobs don't exsist. when I got my prosthesis and tried them on and put on my t-shirt ,I was overwhelmed with emotion. I cried, to see myself like I was before and the realization of what I lost. I was not prepared for my reaction and feeling. Good Luck. lots of love
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trying2deal, your experience with the "secret" area of the store is something we've been complaining about here. Many of us were not allowed to browse through a variety of mast bras and prostheses. We were escorted to a fitting room, and a fitter brought us only the prostheses or bras she thought would be appropriate. I had a hard time convincing my fitter that the styles, and even the sizes, she thought I should wear, were not the ones I wanted to wear. I ended up buying a very expensive prosthesis which cost $100 more than my insurance allowed; and two bras that really don't fit very well and I have never worn. (More about that later...)
Rose, you've hit on an important point about the fit of mast bras.
I have mild/transient LE in my hand and forearm on my mast/SNB side. I also develop swelling during the day, under my arm and in my chest wall on that side. The swelling in my hand and arm have been dx'd as LE, and I have sleeves, gloves/gauntlets, wraps, etc., and do MLD, to keep it under control.
No one has explained the chest wall swelling. My docs act as if it is normal to have transient (daily) swelling in the chest wall and underarm 1-1/2 years after a mast/SNB. My LE therapist suggested that I buy a Belisse compression bra if it bothers me too much. (It doesn't--at least, not enough to get me to wear one of those on a daily basis.)
I am assuming the chest wall/underarm swelling is mild/transient truncal LE, based on its appearance and behavior. The problem with it is that it makes bra-fitting nearly impossible. Rose, your comment about mast bras needing to fit more tightly than our old bras is what I experienced at my professional fitting. I went to a specialty store that worked solely with female cancer patients. The fitter kept insisting that the bras she was putting on me were supposed to be that tight, while I kept insisting that she loosen them one notch or try a larger band size.
I finally told her that I cannot wear a bra that tight, because I have swelling in my chest wall. She got all excited and scolded me because I was not wearing a compression sleeve that very day. (My arm and hand were fine.) She didn't change her mind about the tightness of the bra, though. <sigh> I spent all that money just to hush her up and get me out of there.
I sure hope everyone else's experiences are better. Maybe I should have driven to the nearest Nordstrom's, which, unfortunately, is 120 miles away in another state.
otter
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they do kind of have mastectomy patients in a hard spot!
My fitter told me I was a 34B. I think that leaves me with an unhappy roll of skin under my arm so I moved myself to a 34C, which IMO is better, although it does depend on the bra. I think while dress sizes have expanded -what used to be a size 10 is now a size 8- that bras sizes have shrunk. Everybody wants a smaller dress size and a larger bra size.
My point being - don't buy too many bras at the fitters. You need to wear them awhile and see how they do. You can always come back or gasp - go online and order them. If you have a receipt with the medical code you can submit it to your insurance for reimbursement. I've bought them out of my flexible spending account and that's what they look for to approve.
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Rose is correct--IMHO, don't blow all your allowance at the first fitting.
My insurance pays for 4 mast bras per year. (It's part of my Major Medical coverage, so I have to pay $100 deductible before it kicks in and then they pay 80% of the "allowable" cost.) When I went for my official fitting, the fitter and the store owner both insisted that I should buy all 4 of my bras right then and there. I said I was willing to buy 2 that day, but I wanted to wait to see if I really liked those before I bought the other two. (I was also thinking, "There has to be a less expensive place than this!".)
The store owner didn't like me waiting--not one bit. She was really firm about me spending my whole allowance at that visit. I got irritated with the high-pressure sales routine I was getting. So, I not only decided not to buy the other 2 bras that day, but I also insisted that they give me a copy of the doctor's prescription they were keeping. I pointed out that I would need the prescription if I wanted to buy the other 2 bras I was allowed. "No, you won't," the owner said. "We'll have it on file here, for when you come in next time."
I don't think so....
(Sorry this turned out to be such a frustrating story. I'm sure it isn't helping to hear worst-case scenarios.)
otter
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My insurance only has 2 providers in the area. One of them only carries one brand of prothesis/bras, Classique. Lots of choice, huh? Plus, they're hours are kind of odd and you have to set up an appointment. The second shop carries more brands, so it is better. My insurance only allows 2 bras per year - how generous! I've been buying on-line, since I'm not particularly fond of the bras that were covered by insurance. I even asked the shop about "upgrading", and they said you have to buy the bra and then file with the insurance company yourself for the reimbursement for the difference. Way too much hastle, if you ask me.
I even bought a new form on-line, and it worked out great. Again, when I went to the fitter, I mentioned that I was interested in a climate control type form, as I do sweat a great deal. She said "you can just put a cover on it, and the pocket in the bra will also make it OK. The form I ended up with was comfortable, but I would sweat right through the pocket, even during cold weather. No way I could wear it without a cover in a regular bra, either. Gets kind of annoying to have your chest damp all the time! I now have a Silique Comfort Lite, and I no longer sweat through the bra. Plus, it doesn't pull that side of the bra down like my old form did. I'm only a large A, so I hate to think how far down the proth side would hang if I were larger!
The best fitters in my areas are not providers for my insurance, unfortunately, so I'm pretty much stuck with what I have.
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Hi Beth,
I had a bilateral in 2006. I wore foam filled forms for about a year... maybe longer. My silicone forms are ameona brand and i love them. they are very comfortable and natural looking. In retrospect i wish i had started wearing them sooner ( like you're doing) because i think they just look SOO much better, but thinking back, i was in chemo, and radiation and the last thing i cared about was how i looked. I suppose the point is this is going to be a yearly thing. The first fitting is a little scary, cause it's something new. My only advice is don't be shy to tell the fitter if you don't like something. My first pair was very round (versus teardrop shaped) and i didn't like those as much, but felt like i had to take them. good luck, maybe you could take someone you trust to ease the anxiety.
LittleFlower
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Beth,
Your story sounds a whole lot like mine--left breast cancer, but a surgeon who said she never discouraged bilateral mastectomies, because she saw too many patients back in a few years with a recurrence.
I also did the Oncotype DX test (with results that didn't get back in time, requiring me to change my first appointment with my oncologist), but when I did get the results they gave me a very low chance of recurrence. For those who don't know, this is a test of multiple genes that gives a numerical result indicating your risk level for recurrence, and in my case, saved me from having to go through chemo. As of last year it was only being done in one lab in the country, and insurance sometimes balked at paying for it--they did, but not without a medical necessity letter from the oncologist.
Anyway, my surgeon's office suggested at least 8 weeks before being fitted, and recommended "bosom buddies" (website www.bosombuddy.com). This is sort of in between the fluffies and a silicon prosthesis; it's sort of a fabric envelope that you can add or subtract small pillows of glass beads to get your exact size (I think they're about $75 each--and be careful about charging your insurance for these since they'd probably mean insurance wouldn't pay for a silicon prosthesis.)
Like most of you, I thought I was 'supposed' to go get a silicon prosthesis, and a year later I'm questioning that decision--Texas summers are hot and that silicon is even hotter! I've been spending more time going braless, have been investigating reconstruction and don't like the alternatives--but that's another thread!
Good luck with the Oncotype test results!
Shar
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So I'm reading all of these postings and wondering how long do I have to wait to get a foam prothesis. Feel very self concious with just one breast - I know I have to wait according to the doctor until end of July for a prescription but do I have to wait that long for a foamy?? It's very hard to find button up shirts that don't show your one breast sticking out?? Any help would be appreciated.
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janie-r,
You can try a foam form anytime but I found that even foam forms irritated my sensitive chest for the first few weeks. After about three weeks, I was able to wear them for a few hours at a time, so I didn't feel self-conscious going out. Before that, I wore the puffy fiberfil forms with a post-surgical camisole. The foam forms (like Amoena's Style 126 or TruLife's Tri-Featherweight) are marketed as post-surgical forms, specifically meant for the period after surgery. It's certainly worth giving the foam a try. If it's not immediately comfortable, you can still use it later for leisure and exercise and even swimming. I wear my 126s often during the day, with a Still You camisole, and I use them for exercise and swimming.
Unfortunately, there's a problem with the 126s manufacturing process at the moment, so they're hard to get, unless your size is in stock. Trulife and others make good alternate options.
Good luck!
Barbara
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I have had a prosthesis now for eight years...I have many funny stories about mastectomy
bras..but that is another story..but I can say my money and credit cards fit very nicely in
my mast bra....nice for travelling...
The fluffy ones as someone said ride up...and I wouldn't notice., so my husband would say the moon was rising and I would know to pull it down...so I was happy to get the "real" ones..
I had fittings in three or four different shops including Nordstroms..I did have some frustration with Normstroms as they wouldn't take a defective prosthesis back whereas a private place would...but they usually drape of little gown over you when you try bras etc, on and then many will leave the room and let you experiment....if they don't offer I tell them to leave me alone for a few minutes..
Sending you warm hugs..and know you will find the best fittings possible..
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I'm 8 weeks "out" and finally pulled myself together to make the appointment to get "fitted". Next week. Um - now what? I had a unilateral mastectomy, but no lymph nodes as they were already gone (lumpectomy and axillary dissection 9 years ago on this same side). I'm smaller busted, a 34 barely B on my best days, so smashing the remaining side with a sports bra and wearing blousy shirts has been my new style.
I have worn my regular bra with the fluffy thing to fill it out a couple of times this past week with decent results. It rides a tad bit high, though, and sure does feel odd. I get that odd may be the new reality.
I guess I should take my regular bra to the fitting? I can sort of see the benefits of a mastectomy bra, but considering my smallish size - does that make a difference regarding the requirements? I'm a decent seamstress and figure I should be able to add pockets to my existing bras; has anyone done this?
I'm going to the only place around that coordinates directly with my insurance. If I'm not pleased with the offering I'll decline what they have and head to Nordstroms. I've heard my local one does a good job. I'll just have to handle the paperwork and have it go to deductible for out of network. But this is not something I'm going to compromise on.
Any tips on getting through this would be appreciated. I'm not looking forward to the process, but WOULD like to be able to wear some of my regular clothes again. It's challenging being a single breasted lady.
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If you're a good seamstress you're way ahead of me already! I think it's a real benefit to be able to sew pockets into whatever bra you like. The American Cancer Society TLC site sells pockets ready-made for sewing in. It certainly won't hurt to take your bra to the fitting and it may give the fitter an idea of what type bra you like--perhaps there's a similar style in a mastectomy bra. I really think that finding the right bra is the most important thing. The same form in two different bras can feel completely different (just the way natural breasts feel good in some bras and bad in others).
Hopefully, you'll like the service at the place which accepts your insurance. And possibly you'll actually find the experience positive and reassuring. With your small breast size and the lightweight forms available, you should be able to find a form that feels comfortable and natural. You absolutely should be able to get into almost all (if not all) your regular clothes again. I've always worn fitted tees and (with a bilateral) I'm back in them and no one would know my breasts are fake.
Hope it all goes really well.
Barbara
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If a bra has more than one layer, you can just slit the layer closest to your body on each armpit side and turn over the edge and make a tiny handkerchief hem around the slit. Just takes a few minutes per bra. Also, I've got a few camisole-type sports bras in which I've made a single slit down the middle and which I wear once in a while with Amoena 126 foam prostheses.
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