AFTER 5 YEARS...WHAT?
OK! IT'S SO GOOD TO KNOW ABOUT 90 SOMETHNG % SURVIVING THE FIRST 5 YEARS.
AFTER THAT WHAT? WE GONNA DIE? I MEAN FOR NODE POSSITIVES ,I HAD ONE, WHAT ARE THE CHANCE? FOR HOW LONG WE HAVE TO WORRY?I GUESS FOR EVER?
THIS DRIVE ME SOOOOOOOOOOOO NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOVE YOU ALL!
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Awwwhhh Hugs Gogot1.........I am 2 1/2 years out and I still worry but not quite as much as a year ago......I believe as time goes by and no recurrence has happened I will worry a whole lot less......It is so hard to not worry sometimes especially when your appointment comes up for your check up or a blood test looks wonky or as in my case you find another lump and think "Oh God, not again!"....(Thank God it turned out to be b9!).........I myself plan to take it one day at a time, one week, one month, one year at a time.......I will try NOT to worry but we all know how sometimes that is not possible, but then again that is why we are all here on this site....To support each other when we need it.......
My sister was dx 5 months before me with stage 3 bc...She had 2 nodes positive...It has been almost 3 years for her and she is going strong...... She is my inspiration and my "canary", cause if something goes wrong for her I know it will for me, too as we are that connected.....We aren't twins, she is 5 yrs older than me, ut we are closerthanthis.......
I hope you find peace with all this, as hard as that sounds it is possible.......I take a lot of inspiration from my Stage 4 sisters here too...They seldom let anything get them down and even when they are not feeling well they always respond to a sister in need.....
Gogot1, just remember to take care of YOU and you will be fine.......
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THANKS HOLLYANN
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This article has some information related to your question.
There is limited prognostic information to identify breast cancer patients who are at risk for late recurrences after adjuvant or neoadjuvant systemic therapy (AST). We evaluated the residual risk of recurrence and prognostic factors of 2838 patients with stage I-III breast cancer who were treated with AST between January 1, 1985, and November 1, 2001, and remained disease free for 5 years. Residual recurrence-free survival was estimated from the landmark of 5 years after AST to date of first recurrence or last follow-up using the Kaplan-Meier method. The log-rank test (two-sided) was used to compare groups. Residual recurrence-free survival rates at 5 and 10 years were 89% and 80%, respectively, and 216 patients developed a recurrence event. The 5-year residual risks of recurrence for patients with stage I, II, and III cancers were 7% (95% confidence interval [CI] = 3% to 15%), 11% (95% CI = 9% to 13%), and 13% (95% CI = 10% to 17%), respectively (P = .02). In multivariable analysis, stage, grade, hormone receptor status, and endocrine therapy were associated with late recurrences. Breast cancer patients have a substantial residual risk of recurrence, and selected tumor characteristics are associated with late recurrences.CitationAbenaa M Brewster, Gabriel N Hortobagyi, Kristine R Broglio, Shu-Wan Kau, Cesar A Santa-Maria, Banu Arun, Aman U Buzdar, Daniel J Booser, Vincente Valero, Melissa Bondy, Francisco J Esteva. Residual risk of breast cancer recurrence 5 years after adjuvant therapy. Journal of the National Cancer Institute.2008 Aug 20;100(16): 1179-83
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After 5 years you hope and pray you've conquered it but you never presume it won't come back. I was told that I was stage 4 after 10yrs and my specialist had only just told me 2 mths prior that he thought I was over it.
The secret to finding any cancer is to find it early and then do everything you can to get rid of it before it spreads.
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GOGOT1, You are talking about the really difficult part of having had cancer. I have lost any illusions about safety or control. The fear and sadness, or terror and grief if I am feeling really down, are so hard. Like you, I've also learned some important life lessons. I'm not the same person I used to be. As far as finding peace, it's something I have to work at every day. Hugs, G.
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THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH LADIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FEEL YOUR POSSITIVE ENERGY TRYING TO GIVE ME NOT ONLY ANSWERS BUT COURAGE AND CONSERN, THIS HELPS ME A LOT.
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dear GOGOT1
i wanted to put my 2 cents in on this thread. so, i am 7 years out and finally at some peace about relapse . the first couple of years i was a wreck....seeing the oncologist every three months i felt i was living in 3 month increments. when i hit 5 years...i remember thinking that i had PRAYED for 5 years...when i hit the 5 year mark..i was like...OK, NOW WHAT? well, i started to feel a LITTLE more secure....and started to feel less afraid. as a little more time passed....i went off arimidex at the 5 and half year mark..and said to my self....yikes...safetly net gone** as i thought a little more about it..and my doc appts moved to 6 months...i realized that IF my cancer came back....i would DEAL with it then. for some reason, that really helped me....understanding that i had already walked the walk...that relapse didn't mean death...although it may mean more treatment...but....that I COULD do it again if i had to. i think time away from dx helps..although it still lurks on some level....for me finding a little peace in knowing that i will deal with it THEN and WHEN...seems to have helped me. and the farther away i get...the more sophisicated the treatments are going to be.. i also realized that i could get hit while cycling, california could have a big earthquake....North Korea may send a nuke at us....i found myself really realizing..until something actually happens....i can't deal with it...but only worry about it. when and if it happens....THAT is when it is time to deal with it. i spent way too much time worrying the first few years after dx...and here i am now....moving towards 8 years NED> (had 10+ or more positive nodes)
hang in there. all of this is scarey.....BUT....trust that your treatment worked for you.
diana50
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YES!!!!!YOU PUT ME IN THE RIGHT WAY TO DEAL WITH IT AND THINK ABOUT.LOVE YOU!!!!!
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I totally understand the worry and frustration - I was diagnosed w/ stage II b 6 years ago while I was 7months pregnant - I too had always been in control of everything - so I had to let go of that control and relied on God for strength and peace and joy and healing, and I learned that it was ok to allow others to help you - still have a hard time with that one, but I'm better then I was before. I went through chemo, lumpectomy and 8 lymph nodes removed, and then 7 weeks of radiation. I am now 5-1/2 years out from finished treatments - still worry everytime things don't feel right. I now have 4 young kids ages 10, almost 6, 3, and 15months - so I have everything to worry about when it comes to staying healthy and fighting to not have a reacurrance. I have had pain in the last year in the once affected breast and underarm and down my arm too, but all tests have come back negative. Going in for a couple more mri's in a couple weeks to double check it all again, but docs think that I am experiencing pain from nerve damage and scar tissue from surgery and radiation - and pain in my arm from slight lymphadema and over use due to lifting my little kids all the time - they don't seem to tell you about long term side affects at the time you are going through treatment. I am truly blessed to be here, despite the pain I have, I try to have faith that I will be a 60-70year survivor (as I was diagnosed at age 30), not just a 5 or 6 year survivor - it would be nice and comforting to have statistics that went out passed that 5 year marker - I think that usually after 5 years the oncologist have you follow-up with your regular doc. unless you are having problems, so they no longer follow you - that's why there's a lack of reports after that 5 year. Hope that helps - bless you :-)
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Sorry to tell you, breast cancer is a cancer that can come back anytime anywhere, I am 15+ survivor, I see once a year my oncologist and my surgeon, that means every 6 months I see somebody.
I had 3 biopsies since my diagnosis, 1 on my chest wall,another my arm and later a finger, all negatives , my doctors are very careful.
Make sure you have a good follow up, but DO NOT think that all aches and pain "could be"
Be positive and pamper yourself,
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Some good advise form dreaming. I had 12 very happy and healthy years between primary and recurrence (to my liver, pleura and bones)-at the time of the mets diagnosis, I felt healthy, and had no pain/symptoms, and the mets were found purely by chance. Having said that you have to live life, and not assume that every ache may be a recurrence. Statistics are just that-no more, no less, and none of us,irregardless of our initial primary prognosis (which in my case was "excellent"), can assume that we will have no further problems.Good luck.
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Cancer will always be part of your life now, regardless of how many years you are free of active treatment, just don't let it control your life. Always be alert and when you have an ache or pain you do not consider to be normal, have it checked out immediately. Don't be paranoid about it, but it will at least give you peace of mind, knowing what is causing the pain. I has a ,09 cm tumor, 19 negative lymph nodes and had a left modified radical mastectomy in 90. In 98, I was moved up to Stage lV wich is where I am today.....but please note I am still alive and about to finish a round of 24 chemo treatments in two weeks....then they will do scans and I am hoping to go back to "stable". I am not being a doubting Thomas, but I myself think once you have had cancer, you are never free from risk. But at the same time, people who have never had cancer in their entire lives, probably run the same risk. No one in my family ever had breast cancer. It's just like getting hit by a car...that could happen to any of us also.Cancer can happen to anyone, anytime and no one has a guarantee is isn't going to happen.....but that doesn' t mean it will happen either, or that it will come back. All you can do is go for check ups, take good care of yourself and live each day to its fullest and enjoy life. I have been living with cancer for many years, but the key to that sentence is living. I keep so busy with things that the days and years are starting to run together, but am sure much of this is age. You cannot live in fear of the cancer coming back......easy to say, I know, but try very hard to put it way back there in a tiny corner of your mind and get on with life. Don't worry, be happy. As Elaine just posted do not assume that every ache may be a recurrence, but do have it checked out. I am constantly inspired by womens posts on this message board. We are all living proof that you can live with cancer.....just have to stay on top of it and do all we can to fight it without compromising our quality of life too much. Not everyone makes it and that always saddens me, but people die every day of something....each and every person who is born is "terminal" because no one lives forever. What to do after 5 years?....do something great...something you have always wanted to do and Enjoy!!!
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That freaks me out. .9cm and you get mets- witrh nodes clean. I do not get it. You are telling me some slipped away before her chemo and mast? Makes me real confused and nervous.
Good luck to all.
Giulia
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Newbie, Don't freak out.....we are all different. Also, I did NOT have chemo after I had the mastectomy which is what the onco I see now told me I would have had automatically today (said that in 98 when I started with him.) My initial diagnosis was in 90 and yes they did remove 19 nodes and all were clean.....but one of those invasive cells must have already escaped and been floating around in my body somewhere. I didn't have tamoxifen or anything as treatment that lst time and the only followup treatments I did have were visits to the oncologist I saw then and whatever tests she thought needed to be done....she by the way was not a very good oncologist or she would have done scans and furher testing when I first started complaining of pain and I never would have progressed to Stage lV. All I was doing was telling you my experience so please don't think I am implying the same thing is going to happen to you or anyone else. I didn't mean for my return of cancer to be the center of my post, what I wanted to convey is that we need to appreciate life and enjoy it, But also I don't think we should feel 5 years is some big magic number and think it is never going to recurr because it can.
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I HAVE A QUESTION, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BREAST CANCER VACCINE
NAMED KIND OF MANNA MUK 1? I READ THAT THIS IS A VACCINE AND IS ALREADY
OUT THERE.
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Hi everyone, I'm a newly here and well everywhere, I read all the post in hope someone can answer my question without me asking, It's like if I ask it will make it to real for me if you can understand. But well I'll have a go I had a double radical mastectomy with all mussal etc also removed, 5tumors from 2 and a half cm to 9 and a half cm, 37node with 12 positive, grade 3, stage 2 i think as every tumor was graded 2 to 3, I got lpyodina in my right arm straight away so i wear a arm and had garment every day etc, I had all the chemo and rado, that i cant have anymore rado if it was to come back to my upper body, They have said on my report that I have a 37% chance of survival, I finish every high doses of chemo and have been on Ferema for the past 3 years, the doctors have said that I am to stay on that for the rest of my life instead of 5 years BUT I stopped taking it as I wanted to no if this was causing my bone pain( no one knows I have done this, but also no one know about the pain I have)..............My bone pain has not gone away, in my legs and well whole body, I so sceard to tell anyone even my doctor, I hide it well as I just want it to go away....... so here I am writting here. I have 3 children my middle child past away from cancer, My other 2 are now 23 and 14 I'm a single mother and I live for them, They think I'm so strong I dont what to let them down ( I'm crying as I write sorry) I see these post and read the lovely words you all give each other it's nice. anyway anyone post back would be nice. Xxx
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