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  • kt57
    kt57 Member Posts: 425
    edited June 2009

    Hello Jewels:  The Relay for Life was an incredible experience.  With only 4 rad treatments left and the active phase of treatment nearing an end, this event was just what I needed.....closure and moving on... and you were all there with me.  

    I helped carry the banner to lead the survivor lap.. that was emotional.  Managed not to cry -- but that was tough when I passed the crew from my cancer center, including my med onc, who were all there cheering us on.....like they have through this whole journey..  

    This event is at a campground right on our beautiful Lake Superior.  Each team had a campsite...some sold food, others had games and raffles, fundraising events every hour.  The walking track wound around all the campsites.  Lots of people.  Lots of hugs.  Just a great experience.  I lasted til 3AM - went home, fell into bed, smelling like campfire and slept really well.

    Oh.. and I made the front page of the newspaper -- goofy pink hat and all....       

  • holtbolt
    holtbolt Member Posts: 625
    edited June 2009

    Patti..... we'll be here waiting at the finish line on Thursday.... you are almost there!!!!

    KT57 - that sounds wonderful!!!  Is the newspaper online? Maybe we could see you on the front page!! Post the link if it is!!!  I'd love to see the pic!!  WTG!  You are right.. what a great way for closure.. !!!

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2009

    Patti, yeah for Thurs.  Eyelashes and brows coming out was hard.  Also agreed with the 5:00 shadow, and that and the first few mm's of growth got me more stares then going bald ever did.  Now almost 4 months out it is about 6 mm long and everyone assumes I have an aggressive hairdressor or the worst taste in haircuts. : )

    It is easy, though, and I've gotten used to it.  My hair used to be a lot of work.  I'm actually dreading it getting any longer and the growing out phase, I may keep it this short 

  • YearoftheHat
    YearoftheHat Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2009

    kt57 - that sounds like a really wonderful experience.  I am so glad that your community was together and you were a big part of it.  That is great.

  • ladyjane54
    ladyjane54 Member Posts: 192
    edited June 2009

    kt57 - Great job!  I can not wait to experience my first walk as a survivor.  I can only imagine how emotional it must be.  I almost cried just ready about it.  Would also love to see pic so09 post link if possible.  What paper was it?

    kmmd - Thanks for the smile.  "the worst taste in haircuts."  Exactly how I feel.  I actually go between thinking I am never ever cutting my hair again and going to grow it to my waist and keeping it short because showering and getting ready to go anywhere has been much quicker.

    Well I had a busy weekend which is nice because it went by fast.  Did find out getting back in shape is going to be harder than I thought though.  Repeat xray showed scarring in lung from the pneumonia I had back in March but I had no idea how that would affect my wind, lung, breathing or whatever you call it capacity but found out this weekend it does not take much to get me huffing and puffing.  Quite discouraging and sad.  My DH tells me my endurance will come back quickly.  I hope so.  Are those of you who are done with chemo resuming any sort of exercise program with any luck?

    Lots to do before DD,  her husband and grandbaby arrive sometime around June 25th. Think I told you all they are moving into my basement for awhile.  Well anyway lots of stuff in basement now needs new home and it is like a domino effect one thing leads to another.  Going to try to take it a bit slower today.  Was wiped out last night.

    Three more days to the LAST ONE!  Not that I am counting or anything.

    Have a great day.

    Patti

  • PLUTZ
    PLUTZ Member Posts: 133
    edited June 2009

    Good morning ladies! I had a really relaxing weekend sitting on my deck. didn't do much of anything. I was pretty tired from the steroids. My legs are a little sore today and I still feel very tired but I'm going shopping with my daughters. I hope these last s/es aren't so bad this week. It will be nice to get my taste buds back.

    holtbolt-I'm glad you had a nice vacation. I am so ready to go on one but it won't be this summer. My summer is still tied up with tests and surgery and rads. Some vacation!

    ladyjane54-I'm rooting for you this week. Its such a relief to finally getting back to normal.

    lisalisa- I am so happy for you that you are getting eyelashes. I wish mine would start growing. My teary eyes are driving me nuts.

    BevR- congratulations on your new grandson

    everyone have a great week. I'll check in the end of the week.

  • YearoftheHat
    YearoftheHat Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2009

    I had shortness of breath for most of the weekend - it's been 24 days since my last infusion.  I couldn't really find anything on-line relating that to the aftermath of chemo, which surprised me.  Maybe I used the wrong search terms. 

    Has anyone else had shortness of breath since finishing chemo?

    My onc's office wants to see me today to listen to my lungs and do blood work.  I feel very good, I just can't seem to get the deep breaths in very often.

    Patti - BF and I bought an elliptical trainer yesterday (woohoo!) and it will have it delivered later this week.  I'll ask the mid-level I visit with today if it's OK to start using it right away.  I can't wait but maybe I'll really have to take it easy for a while.  For the most part, I am brimming with energy.    

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited June 2009

    Year of the Hat--let me know what you think of your elliptical trainer.  I have always wanted one, but turned away from the cost of it.  I still need a converter box!  I will probably break down and get one tomorrow because DD andDH will be with me during tx and so we will go to 28 mile and shop--Yuck, but at least my family will be with me.

    Plutz-Glad you had a nice weekend. when do you start rads? Have you yet?

     Patti-- I found  the pain in my knees quite debilitating at first and now gradually the pain is going away and my stamina is going up.  I am 46 days PFC. 

     Lisa---EYe lashes?  Now that's gotta be wonderful.  I keep looking and I still just have one eyelash each eye.  I still am waiting for the eyebrows.  I am going to ask for Latisse when I see the oncologist next week. 

    Kmmd--When did your eyelashes start coming in? 

    BerkeleyKim-- Are you doing the lebed method stretches for lowering the risk of lymphedema?

  • Bev56
    Bev56 Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2009

      Good evening ladies! Congratulations to everyone finishing up with treatments. It's a great feeling.

      We finally had sun here today but I had to work! I'm off tomorrow so I'm hoping for nice weather.

      Patti I had no problems at all with radiation. My breast is tanned. I had 3 small areas that were marked and covered with a clear dressing so when I took off the clear dressings some of my skin peeled off like a sunburn but not bad. I did not get fatigued at all with the treatments. I was also very lucky with the location of the radiation treatment center. It was only a few blocks away from work. I only missed 1-1 1/2 hours of work a day because of my treatment time.

      My eyelashes are starting to come in too. I never really missed them that much because I wear glasses. Plus it saved me time in the morning because I didn't have to apply mascara! And I love my short hair because it's wash and go! No helmet head when my husband takes me for a ride on the motorcycle and no worries about how my hair looks if I want to run out the door to go somewhere. It helps alot that people at work are so supportive too.

      I am very achy from the Arimidex. My feet especially- all the time. My legs, calves and sometimes buttocks hurt too. I read on the Arimidex board that some people still have the pains and they have been on it for years so I guess I just have to get used to it.

      I hope everyone has a great week!

  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited June 2009

    i started hula hooping! i hadn't done that since i was a kid, and it was harder than i remembered. :) but i've lost 3 pounds in there days. and having fun! 

  • YearoftheHat
    YearoftheHat Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2009

    I had a CT scan and am fine.  Now I realize it is probably from weight gain and stress.  I really am the kind of person who just clenches emotionally.  I'm not used to all this weight on my frame either.  BF and I had a good talk - that helped. I hope I love my elliptical and don't find it boring.  I think it will feel so good to have some real exertion.  Now that I know I am OK, I feel silly to have made an issue of my breathing but there is a lot of early death in my family from heart disease.  I suppose they wouldn't have sent me for a scan if they weren't concerned too.  ddlatt - that does sound super fun.  I wonder if I have enough of a waist to pull that off!   

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2009

    Patti,

    My Onc got SO tired of listening to me whine about my strength and endurance deteriorating so much during chemo.  I'm 4 months out and have not missed a single day of exercising since this started and only now am I approaching what I used to be able to do.  Onc said it would take about that many more months to get back to where I was--and I didn't get pneumonia. 

    Jess:  my lashes didn't come back fast like some talk about.  Both brows and lashes, got 5:00 shadow of them about a week later and they grew in as fast as my hair did--really slow.

    ddlatt: I tried hula hooping again here recently.  Well, that is certainly NOT like riding a bike. Don't know how I used to do it. 

    Year of the hat: On the elliptical I put the TV on closed captions and then turn on the radio or my ipod.  That way I can watch a show yet the music thumping helps keep me motivated.  Combination keeps me from getting bored

  • PLUTZ
    PLUTZ Member Posts: 133
    edited June 2009

    Hi  ladies. I'm so glad alot of you are getting your energy back to exercise. I miss walking in the parks, but  I did manage to walk around the block the other day. Its about a mile. My DH was with me in case he had to hold on to me. I used to love hula hooping. I should try to get back into that when my energy comes back. My daughters have been playing around with a soccer ball and beach ball. I just want to join in with them. My s/es aren't too bad. Almost the same as the last time. Just very fatigued and trying to sleep thru the night. I should be better by the weekend.

    jrgoglomb- I won't start rads till mid August the earliest. My surgery is scheduled for July 17th.

    everyone have a good week.

  • YearoftheHat
    YearoftheHat Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2009

    Jess - The elliptical is supposed to be delivered later today.  It's an Ingite 2810, made by Lamar which manufactures a lot of commercial fitness equipment.  I can't find any reviews for it on-line.  It was a steal at $500 and if it holds up then we've made a good buy.  It's a front fly wheel type.  I read that the rear fly wheel types are preferable but it felt really smooth and sturdy when we tried it in the showroom.  I'll let you know what I think once I have it home!

    kmmd - I know I'll be cranking the tunes!  (Pippin!)

    The onc's office called today to let me know they scheduled me for an echocardiogram.  I went to the hospital and had it.  It was nice to lay in a dark room for an hour.  I feel perfectly well.  My onc will tell me the results Friday and I will be very surprised if there's any kind of concern.  I guess we'll see.   

  • jillyG
    jillyG Member Posts: 401
    edited June 2009
    Kathy, I did the relay for life a few weekends ago and I did the survivor walk with the banner.  There was only 20 of us and everyone was cheering us on, pretty emotional, I had to put on my sunglasses to hide the tears.  Didn't help that we were led by a bagpiper, that'll make me cry everytime.   I had a lady that told me she had breast cancer back in the 70's and she's doing great.  I hope that is me someday, sitting there in my 70's or 80's telling someone I had cancer way back in 2009. 
  • kt57
    kt57 Member Posts: 425
    edited June 2009

    jillyG:  A woman who is a year out from bc treatment sought me out - she figured (prob from the goofy pink hat) that I had breast cancer.   She had the same chemo I did.  She wanted to let me know that a year ago she was right where I am now and she is feeling great - like her old self.  And a woman talked about her 16 years of disease free survival form bc -- I want to be her in 16 years!   Oh and ddlatt, there was a hula hoop contest at the Relay.....of course some "youngster" won it - she was amazing -- could actually run around and hula hoop at the same time-- work on that move in your spare time.Smile

    If I can ever figure how to post pix, I will.

    Only two more radiaton treatments... it has gone by quickly and my skin is holding up well.  And after 4200 miles of travel, so is my butt! LOL!!!   Looking forward to having that chunk of time back every day.

    Saw a genetic counselor today.   I was diagnosed just as I turned 51. Because it's close to 50 - the arbitrary cutoff age to define "young" bc - and I likely started developing the abnornal cells well before then, she suggested testing for that reason alone.  My mom had bc at 55, an aunt in her 60s......not a strong history of other cancers, so interestingly, that did not contribute much to her recommendation.   She said if I was BRCA1or2 were positive, my brothers and my son should be tested as they would have a 50% risk of carrying the mutation -- If they are postive, they have a greater risk for breast and prostate cancer -- that was enough for me, they need to know as much as I do --- had the test today and will know in a week and a half.  Sure hope it's negative.

    Small world story: As my genetic counselor and I talked, she knew the specifics of my tumor - that it was Stage 1, small and detected early.  It was Grade 3, and "messy" (that's what my rad onc said) as there was one defined IDC, three areas just emerging from the ducts in a sea of DCIS - so much that the patholigist had to look hard to find the IDC.  When I went to my first med onc appt -- the question arose - did I have one tumor or four.... right then and there he called the pathologist who evaluated my cells --- after two weeks, he clearly remembered my tissue and could explain what he saw to my med onc -- imagine that!   I told her how impressed I was by that and by the detailed work by the pathologist to get an accurate diagnosis-- turns out the pathologist is her father........asked her to extend my appreciation to him ... I bet patholigists don't get much of that...and yet their role is critical. 

    Phyllis: hope your LAST SEs are few

    Patti: Thursday is it!!   Will be thinking about you....

    Soon all the Jewels will be done with chemo.   A toast to us! 

  • BerkeleyKim
    BerkeleyKim Member Posts: 390
    edited June 2009

    Just flew back from my "mini-vacation" and my son's graduation. Made it to radiation. It was so nice to get away, but hectic of course as I finished work Friday then flew off early Sat.! Very emotional time for me. My son also turned 22 today (I stayed to have breakfast with hime), and my dh and I had our 23rd anniversary yesterday. Spent the day at the  beach, and it was lovely, although I hated having to worry about my damn arm and keeping it out of the sun.. Walked with my sister. Ate lots. Celebrated.

    Swam in the pool!!! What heaven. I'm a water girl, and I've missed swimming. I'm so glad my radialogist said ok to pools for short swims. Holtbolt--I pinned in the "poofy boob" for my daytime swim. I could tell the difference, but my sister said no one else could. I believe her. Also lost my swim cap, so I swam boobless and bald at night, but there were lots of people there. I think with my froggy eyes (what I look like w/out lashes), I must have really looked  a sight! I didn't care!

    BevR--Congrats on your new grandbaby!! Bev56--I'm starting the arimidex tomorrow. I waiting til after teaching was over and son's graduation to start. I'm worried about not being able to walk, as it's been keeping me sane. Holtbolt--glad your vacation was great!! YearofHat--Good you're getting checked--I bet the breathing trouble is still recovery from the chemo. My onc said that I should continue to have se's for a while after chemo (my neurpopathy got worse and of course still losing eyelashes/brows). I love ellipticals. Tell me how you like yours. I think I'm going to join the uc recreation so I can get on the machines and swim too.KT57and Jilly- How inspiring!! I hope I can walk in one--the local one was early May, and I hadn't finished chemo yet. Ddlatt-I never could hula hoop! Looks like great exercise though.

    Patti--Almost there! Waiting for you and cheering. I've got to clean out my basement too--son coming back to live here!. Full house with my daughter home from college. I'm thrilled (for now!).

    Jewels--Hugs to all. I've lost track of all the posts.

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited June 2009

    BK-  I am glad you had a great mini vacation.  And wonderful you didn't care about going bald.  It is so liberating!!!!!!!! I have to laugh, here I go everyday and whip off my bathrobe, fling my arms into a brace, bear one droopy breast and one foob without a second thought , YEt I insist on wearing a hat into the radiation center!  LOL.  Aren't we breast cancer survivors a complex beast??????  LOL.

    Patti---YOu go girl!!!  

    I haven't started hormonal therapy--i suppose I will find out when I go to the onc next week.  first visit since april 30......

    I still have NO eyelashes and my eyebrows are worse!  I am seriously thinking about gluing some temporaries on and then i worry about pulling the scant few I have off.  

  • ladyjane54
    ladyjane54 Member Posts: 192
    edited June 2009

    Kim - "Froggy eyes"  yes that is exactly what I look like without eyelashes.  My daughter, husband and grandbaby arrive sometime next week.  Not sure how long they will  be with us but I think I will enjoy every minute of it.  I really need the distraction right now so God works in mysterious ways.

    Congratulations on your son's graduation.  My Dh is doing it the hard way. Dropped out of school at 19 to get married, much to my dismay and now she admitting Mom and Dad were RIGHT (imagine that?) and she needs to finish her education in order to get a "grownup" job.  Well at least she is only 25 now with one child.  I finished my degree at 40 something after having 4 children.  

    Phyllis  - Glad to hear SEs not too bad.  Yesterday was awful but I think I overdid it on Monday.  I spent the day in bed yesterday popping painkillers.  Feeling a little better today.

    LAST TREATMENT TOMORROW!!!  Wow seems like it was a long time coming.  Can not wait to  start feeling well again.

    Have a great day ladies...Patti

  • BevR
    BevR Member Posts: 101
    edited June 2009

    I just returned from a visit to the PS.....I will be having the diep but am trying to decide about a prophylatic mastectomy......my cancer was in my left breast--Stage IIb, Grade 3 2 pos nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-. Had 6 rounds of TAC and no radiation.

     Any thoughts?

  • YearoftheHat
    YearoftheHat Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2009

    Bev - I had a bilateral even though only one breast was infected.  Other than wishing I didn't have cancer at all, I have not regretted it.  In fact, in most ways it seems to have made dealing with treatment issues and decisions much more simple.  To me, having only one natural breast is as odd as having none.  In my mind, they are meant to be in pairs!  So, I have been glad for my decision.  Good luck making yours.

      

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2009

    Bev, I didn't go for a prophy, the sensation in the remaining breast was important to me.  That said, I worry at times about how many years I have to worry about getting it in the other breast. I couldn't go through chemo again so worry about that decision. (even though I know it is more likely to recur in the same breast then it is to get a new primary in the other breast).   I am happy with my decision and would not have been happy with a completely numb chest.   However, I had an expander and then implant.  With the DIEP's, TRAM's etc. you get one shot at things.  They can't do the procedure again if you get something in the other breast, I do think that changes the equation a little. Can you get numbers from your BS or Onc or someone regarding your risk of recurrence vs. risk of getting something in the other breast? It may help with the decision.

  • BevR
    BevR Member Posts: 101
    edited June 2009

    All of the doctors say a recurrence in the other breast is low.....but there are other factors to consider also. But have a primary cancer in the remaining breast is also a concern. Even though my risk factors are low, they were lower before I had the first cancer!

    My onc. says it isn't necessary, the BS and PS say it is an option and strictly personal.

    But, according to the PS I saw, if I don't have it now and decide to have it later, I could. They would just take the tissue from another site. I just am not sure about going through another surgery!

  • YearoftheHat
    YearoftheHat Member Posts: 243
    edited June 2009

    I should mention that the chance of cancer occuring later in the other breast was high for me. 

  • BerkeleyKim
    BerkeleyKim Member Posts: 390
    edited June 2009

    BevR--I asked my onc the same thing at my visit last Thursday. I'm high risk of recurrence in general (yikes), but he told me that as far as a new primary in my remaining (right) breast, after chem and with Arimidex (took my 1st today), my risk is about the same as any other woman. My surgeon told me it was somewhat higher.

    Since my dad had prostate cancer he is referring me to a genetic counselor. My sister and I are wondering why the hell they didn't recommend this when my dad died! (My grandma--dad's mom--died of bc). Right now for me it's a comfort issue. I don't want reconstruction, but being lopsided has its inconveniences. I'm going to wait til I'm done with rads to decide, but will I be able to think straight on Arimidex?  We'll see!

    Good luck. haven't we been throught the hard decision mill!!!! I'm so tired...

    I'm trying to decide on the bisphosphonates trial versus just getting Zometa prescribed. I have no idea how to make a decision...

  • holtbolt
    holtbolt Member Posts: 625
    edited June 2009

    Hey BerkeleyKim...my father had prostate cancer as well, passed away at age 55.  :(  And, my mom and a few maternal aunts had bc... so I guess I was high risk....I'm one of those cases that had two incidences of bc (first on the right, then 15 months later on the left).  I have to say, as traumatic as a bilat was and is, I do feel grateful I won't be subjected to continual biopsies and holding my breath through mammograms/mri's for the rest of my life.  I don't do well with waiting for tests results and the stress of all that. The good news is... I have been on Arimidex for a while now and my only complaint is creakiness, when I first stand up...like joint achiness.. once I get moving, I'm good. I think that may be something I learn to live with... hot flashes are not as bad as during chemo but still there...that's okay.   I'm just grateful to feel as good as I do really.... ps consult for me on Monday... I'm not at all sure if I will do reconstruction... just need to see what the options are.... hope everyone has a great week!

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited June 2009

    I am still trying to figure out whether or not to have my left breast taken off. I am currently dealing with the struggle of radiation and the survival of the tissue expander. I decided to do the reconstruction and the issue of radiation came up later and then again when I start to reconsider  the prophylactic issue of my other breast.  I like KMMD's point of view-having the feel of the other breast intact, but then I abhor the incessant tests and the anxieties associated with it.

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2009

    Jess, I'm so with you and how you're thinking right now.  I've been keeping my fingers crossed for you that you are one of those whose skin says "radiation, what radiation?"  and go on to get an exchange without difficulty.

    Well, hoping today goes well.  I was on my feet a lot Tues and yesterday had to work from home the neuropathy was so bad I could hardly walk to the coffee pot in the morning.  Today I can get around but will be on my feet a lot again.  Hoping the neurontin I just started kicks in soon.

    Anyone else doing the mood swing thing?  I alternate between days of anxiety thinking of the future and hoping it doesn't come back, and days of getting teary eyed walking around on a nice sunny day just being happy to be alive and there to enjoy such a good day.  

    HMM, if I remember right someone here takes their last chemo today.  Good luck and congrats

  • PLUTZ
    PLUTZ Member Posts: 133
    edited June 2009

    Patti- Good luck with your last chemo! Its such a relief that this phase is done with. My last s/es weren't terribly bad. Tuesday I felt like crap. Very weak and fatigued. My legs are still hurting a bit and the neuropathy was the worst this last time. But I'm starting to feel better and I wish you luck as you finish up and get thru this last chemo.

  • shockedat39
    shockedat39 Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2009

    Hi Jewels!

    I'm sorry I've been away and not keeping up with everyonel!  While I'm thrilled to be finally out there doing everything I want to do again, you guys have all helped me through so much and I do so want to keep up with everyone long-term!  Congratulations to everyone who is finishing up chemo and rads!  I associate dealing with this with climbing a huge mountain.  When you're first starting out you look up and think "how am I ever going to get to the top??".  And then all of a sudden you're almost there!!! (Well, after a lot of climbing and climbing and climbing).

    Today I'll be halfway done with rads.  It hasn't been had at all!  God bless my olive, Italian skin.  Rad onc thinks it's working in my favor as there are no noticable skin changes at all (so far). 

    I hope everyone is doing well and feeling good today!

    ((BIG HUGS))) Diane

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