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  • kristifromsandiego
    kristifromsandiego Member Posts: 271
    edited June 2009

    Hi everyone, just stopping by to say hello on a thread I use to be on a lot. 

     Hey Jill----things OK?  Just wanted to make sure?  Kristi

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Hi Ladies...

    Geri...so glad you went and had a great time.  It does surprise people when you tell them you have cancer...and then most go into "I have a best friend, sister, aunt that went through it with flying colors" and then they hug and say they will PRAY for you.   It does get old after a while. 

    I am best to say to them after that...'NO ONE IS AMMUNE to this terrible disease of BC...and please support by donating and most importantly be sure to self exam and mammogram annually.

    I loved the Commodores...especially Lionel Ritchie....

    The new avatar picture you are commenting on is from our cruise last November right after my lumpectomy...when I had hair and before chemo.  I like to remember what it looked like.  I will change it once all the white duck hair is grown in..it is a slow process.  And agree with the dog hair...my yorkie Roxy has beautiful hair...almost human.

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited June 2009

    Cruise -  Funny that you mentioned wanting to put the avatar picture up of before chemo.  I told my daughter at the wedding when she wanted all these pictures with me, that I don't really want a lot of pictures taken right now, with the wig and all, since when I look at them, it makes me sad. 

    Might not make a lot of sense to her 29 year old mind, (but mom, you look terrific - and mom thinks, yea, for someone who has cancer ;( - but I know everyone here understands!

    Geri

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2009

    Hey ladies!  I DID IT!  I got through my port placement and first chemo all in one very looong day, from 6:30 until 5:30.  My poor husband... 

    Anyway, nothing dramatic to report.  I actually stayed lucid through the port placement because I was having such an interesting conversation with the nurse, and I asked her to just dose me minimally so I'd be able to chat through the whole thing.  With the lidocaine it wasn't painful, just a pinch and some pressure; more uncomfortable than painful.  It looks like a blind vampire tried to bite me and missed: there's a round purple mark where the catheter hits my jugular, just under the collabone. 

    After the chemo I came home and crashed, a pleasant surprise bcause I thought the dexamethosone would have me up all night.  Today I am sleepy and my port site is a little achey, but other than that, no big deal.  I"m wondering what will happen next.  The nurse said I was already tolerating the drugs and chemo better than most, so I'm crossing my fingers that the pattern holds.

    JILL - Metamucil is god's gift to chemo-kind.  I love that stuff and sent my husband out for the mega-supply. I'd have been constipated up the yin-yang had I not loaded up on it yesterday. 

    JANET - I am up to my eyeballs in water, thanks to your warning - in fact, I drank so much water during my chemo yesterday that I had to pee six times in five hours.  People were laughing at me as I dragged my IV cart back and forth and back and forth.... One guy came over and disentangled all my cords after a particularly clumsy trip.   I have all kinds of watery drinks at home too - spritzers, low sugar juices, herbal teas, lots of water...   Oddly, I love saltines (Weird, I know) and bought 2 boxes.  Thanks for the advice!  

    GERI - I hope to the Goddess of Graceful Chemotherapy that you don't get any more infections.  ICK.  I saw someone getting Andriamycin yesterday and my husband pointed out the heavy gloves the nurse was wearing.  That is some nasty stuff.  You are a brave lady.

    Everyone else...   I hope you have a wonderful day!  I'm going to do some work while I feel good.

    Cheers, 

    Laura  

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Hi Ladies...

    Laura...we are so pleased that your port and first chemo went well..This is a very good sign...Your DH is a keeper and very supportive which will make your journey much easier.  Please let us know how you are doing when you can...

    Geri...you know it will all be behind us one of these days and we will laugh at the things we are thinking about today...We will be back to our old selves very soon....

    I had my number 19 rad zap today and noticed that it is getting a little darker than the rest of my tanned chest area...my technician said to be sure to use lots of sunscreen while be outside.  I have only 14 more to go a little over half way....it will be over soon...for all of us!!!!

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited June 2009

    Laura,  I'm so glad you're doing so well.  Water and saltines...that's that way to go!  Since I was doing so well, I got a little more adventurous this time, and tonight I actually had a salad with a little bit of buffalo (hot sauce) on it.  Hope I don't regret that in that in the middle of the night.  I'm sure your good start is a sign of good things to come. 

    Cruise:  Your radiation is zipping by (or should I say, "zapping"?)  How are you feeling other than the "tan"? 

    Has anyone heard from Jill lately?  I hope she is okay and just busy. 

    My hair is starting to shed, a lot!   I'll be clipping it any day now.  I'm trying to hold off, but it will be soon.  If I ever figure out how to post a picture, I'll do a before and after wig pic.  Guess I should get my 15 year old to help.  ! 

    Take care all. 

    Janet

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2009

    Hey all,

    Well, I'm 48 hours out from my first TCH and so far... food looks utterly unappetizing.  And that's the only side effect I've noticed.   

    Janet, I bet that buffalo salad tasted GREAT and that you didn't pay for it with a sore stomach...  Show us your beautiful noggin!  I'll post mine when I lose my hair.  Promise.  Ummm, unless I have an embarassingly lumpy head.  Laughing

    Cruise, you'll soon have a beautiful... er, patchwork tan?  Good thing you're nearly halfway there - it's so close!  I laughed when I saw your line above about people saying, "I have a (pick relative) who went through (pick cancer) and is now (dead/permanently bald/in terrible debt/generally thriving/a zombie).  I will be praying for you."  

    AARGH!    I can't tell you how many people have tried to get me to join their churches recently.  I'm perfectly happy with my religious preference, thank you very much - I have CANCER, not a crisis of faith. 

    Okay, enough griping.  People mean well.  Have a great day ladies....

    Love,

    Laura 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2009

    PS - I think Jill is just busy with her kids and work.  I saw her post on Facebook - her son, apparently, created a Facebook page for their dog.  Jill is taking this as a sign of dangerous boredom....

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    HI Ladies...

    Hope everyone is doing well today. 

    Laura...good to see that your tastebuds are just like ours...and that you are in that nothing taste good mode.  That is normal...try mac and cheese...it was yummy for me...also fudgecicle popcicles.  And you are right on with the religious thing...sometimes I think they don't know what else to say...I could thing of things to respond back...but as you said "they mean well".

    Janet...other than my patchwork tan...I am just starting to get what they call a 'diaper rash" under my boob.  The nurse says it is normal and those with BC get this symptom.  I am putting some cream for diaper rashes on it to help relieve the soreness.  Because I can hold a pencil under my boob there is an area that seems to not get daylight...so that is the area that is affected.

    Knock Knock Jill...we want to know how you are doing.....love your son's creative side...saw your comment on FB about the FB page for your dog...surely he takes after you.

    Have a great day ladies...and NO SE's for the newbies....

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited June 2009

    Hello everyone !

    Sorry it's been a while.  Things have been very busy.  I leave in about an hour for my endoscopy.  

    Yes, my son in what I think was a case of boredom created a facebook page for our dog.  Yesterday, the cat caught and ate a bird on our deck - freaking out the kids.   I got yet another call at work from my frantic daughter about this.  This time, I was preparing to give a presentation to about 40 people.  Luckily, the call came in right before I was to go on.   Sheesh...

    Anyway, I have been hearing from most of you, so I know things are going well for the most part - about as well as can be expected. 

    Janet - Done the hair clipping yet ?   I hated that shedding phase.

    Cindy -  They gave me a cream to use "proactively" when I was on radiation called Biafine (it is prescription) - I had to use it three times a day.   That stuff really felt good.  However, when I started getting that rash and/or oozing, they gave me an antibiotic cream called "Silvadene", which would help prevent infection.  Have they mentioned any other types of creams other than baby rash creams (which are largely Zinc oxide)?  Wondering. 

    Jill

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Hi Ladies...

    Jill...thanks for popping in...some of the ladies were asking for you.  

    I have gotten some cream from the doc called Miaderm it has in it Calendula, Aloe Vera, Vitamin E, Marine Collagen and Hyaluronate.  It burned when I put it on the open sore area...so I am not sure if it will help.  The techs said for me to take Advil...and to stay out of the SUN...at least my chest area.  They also said it was good that I was getting air on the affected area....I am trying to let it dry out.  Hopefully this weekend of trying this will help.

    Have a great weekend....

  • kristifromsandiego
    kristifromsandiego Member Posts: 271
    edited June 2009

    All of you ladies sound so good. 

    Cruise4life, I also used Miaderm (free samples from the doctors office)  but during the last week the doctor switched me to a prescription cream.  I wish I could remember the name of the stuff.  It worked really well, but I still got black and blistery.  By two weeks after the last treatment most of the blisters had pealed off and brand new, baby like skin appeared, it still is here 5 weeks later.  Good luck.

    Jill, looking forward to seeing how the endoscope was, hopefully you took a nice little nap during the whole thing and can't remember a thing.  Hope it went well.

    Keep your spirits high!  Kristi

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    kristiforms...you give us hope for full recovery....thanks...diaper rash and baby skin goes together...LOL  Hope I can get throught the next 12 sessions...

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited June 2009

    Hi, Everyone -

    Still feeling a little crunchy from the endoscopy this morning.  I don't bounce back as fast from those as I used to.

    Bottom line - esophagus is fine, some inflammation in the stomach.  Biopsy results in a week or so.   Taking Prilosec in the interim.   I will write more tomorrow when I am feeling a bit better.

    Jill

  • thegoodfight
    thegoodfight Member Posts: 560
    edited June 2009

    Jill,

    I see you had an endoscopy today, but I can't seem to find a post from you posting about what gastro problems you have been experiencing.

    The reason I am asking is because I have been dealing with a few "issues" and have an appt. with my gastro next Tuesday and I suspect I will have an endoscopy also.

    I am also taking Prilosec for now.

    Caren

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited June 2009
  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Jill...we are hoping you bounce back soon...we miss you....

  • kristifromsandiego
    kristifromsandiego Member Posts: 271
    edited June 2009

    Hi guys,

    I just came back to this post after being gone for a while and low and behold I need you all again.  I have a question:  My doctor called this afternoon (Saturday) and told me that my bone scan shows osteoporosis....just great something else I get to worry about.  I am not over weight, I exercise a ton, why me??  And now they have me on Tamoxifen, which is suppose to make it even worse.  My doctor wants to put me on fosomax, which I know gives some gastro problems and other stuff (I am still researching this.  Anybody have this problem??  Thanks for the help  Kristi

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited June 2009

    Hello all !

    First, thanks for the kind wishes.  I appreciate it.  

    Caren - To answer your question, I started experiencing a lot of "chest tightness" with the herceptin treatments.   The doc halted my treatment to make sure we were not having cardiac effects.  I was sent to a cardiologist who put me through a battery of tests to ensure my heart was OK.   It was and I was cleared to receive herceptin again.  The next step was to send me to the GI doc to check out the GI angle (i.e. could reflux be causing the chest symptoms).   That was the reason for the endoscopy.   I hope that clarifies it.  What kind of stomach issues are you having ?

    Kristi - Hi.  Bummer about the osteo.  I am sorry you are going through this because I know how conscientious you are.  Does not seem fair.    You are the second woman I know that had your regimen that is going through the same thing in terms of early osteo diagnosis.  Did they find this in a post treatment bone scan ?   If so, did they compare to the one that you had pre-treatment ?   I would be interested, because I am wondering about the chemo influence here.

     Yes, if you are on tamoxifen (same goes for AIs), it can exacerbate osteo, and while taking something else is a pain, I think it comes down to choosing the lesser of all evils.   Fosamax is a type of drug called a biphosphonate.   It can have some GI side effects.   Other biphosphonates can have jaw necrosis issues, but typically that is if taken over a LONG time and/or IV.    Ever get the feeling we are playing "whack a mole" in our bodies?  Fix one thing and another mole pops up.  Fix that, and yet another mole.  Just want all the moles under control.   Sigh...

    Anyway, I will answer your PM separtely.

    Everyone have a good day !  

    Jill

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Hi Kristi...glad Jill was able to help with your question.  I had a bone scan and blood work to see if I could handle the 5 year pill and my doc prescribed Femara which has less side effects than Tamoxifen.  He hasn't called me back yet with my bone scan results...so I think I am okay... Although reading the symptoms from the prescription Femara - it causes hair loss, weight gain and bone pain.  jeeze...more side effects to deal with...great...

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited June 2009

    Hello All,

    JILL:  So glad to hear from you.  I hope you are feeling well.  Are you still having the chest tightness? 

    LAURA:  How are you doing?  I hope the SE's weren't  too bad.  Will you be getting the Neulasta shot? 

    CRUISE:  I know what you mean about the SE's.  It seems we have to deal with the side effects from the meds Doctors give us to deal with the side effects.  Crazy! 

    As for me, things are going ok.  The main side effect has been fatigue and even that is tolerable.  I feel a lot more lazy than I usually am, but, it's a small price to pay.  As you probably know, the hair is gone and I'm in a wig.  I am trying to convince myself, that even though it's not EXACTLY what I would like, it's better than being bald and scaring small children!  Yesterday was the first full day wearing it so after spending most of the day at home, I took my daughters shopping just to see if people would look at me funny.  So, it basically cost me $100.00 to see if I'd get strange glances, which, I don't think I did.  Does it eventually feel "natural" to wear it, or do you always feel like you're wearing a helmet of hair?  I can't believe this hair thing has thrown me for such a loop!  If I'm this indecisive about hair and wigs....what will I do when I have to decide on BOOBS!  (Tuesday, I meet with the plastic surgeon for a consultation about what type of reconstruction!)  Should be interesting!    Wink

    Janet

  • thegoodfight
    thegoodfight Member Posts: 560
    edited June 2009

    Jill,

    First of all I am glad to see you seemed to have bounced back nicely and are feeling good.

    My situation is different.  I was not on herceptin and have not had chest or stomach issues for that matter.   What I did have was what they thought was ongoing mouth thrush.  No matter how long we treated it we just couldn't seem to get it under control.  It started with chemo, and did seem to be okay by the time I started rads, but..................just after finishing 35 rads, it reared it's ugly head, or should I say tongue, about a week later.

    I went to an ENT and he said it was NOT  thrush, but something called burning tongue syndrome which is an auto immune disease.  It might even have come from an inbalance created from all the anit fungal meds I took for the thrush.   He treated that and so far I am much better, but he thought from his exam I had acid reflux.  I did the prilosec thing for awhile but then stopped because I thought he was wrong.  I had never really had heartburn issues.

    Well a couple of weeks later I got this pain in the back of my throat when I tried to breathe deeply and when I bent over.  Each day it seemed to move a little further down the esophogus, so I restarted Prilosec (which has definitely helped) and I have an appt with my gastro guy on Tuesday.  I am just assuming he will order an endoscopy based on my cancer dx.  But who knows.  I will keep you posted.

    Thanks for your response.

    Caren

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Hi Janet...

    Speaking for myself...the wig is never natural and is just a small part of us...feeling good about yourself is more important.  Do you feel good in your wig?  If so then its a good thing.  I know that mine gets itchy now that my hair fuzz is coming in.  When I get home after an outing with the wig...I can't wait to yank it off.  I also cut it so the bangs don't get into my eyes...I like the idea of no hair in my eyes or mouth...LOL

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2009

    Janet, hello!  Even though I wear a wig every day for work, it never feels natural - feels like a scratchy hair hat!  People say they look very natural, and most of them are the exact color of my hair (I have 4 that I interchange, to keep them in rotation so I can help prevent the folliculitis from coming back -let them reallly air out between wearings), and those who don't know I'm wearing a wig are surprised when I tell them I am.  I personally don't see how they can't not know, but maybe it's just super obvious to me!   It does allow me to feel normal during work, so people can focus on me and not look at my head, like they do if I wear a scarf or bandana.  At home, it's bald city (well, okay, I have fuzzy hairs now), or bandanas when running errands. I get looks in the bandana, but so what, let them look!  It's more important that I fill in my brows - that really helps me look "normal".

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited June 2009

    I ain't messing with a wig no more...it's too hot..I wear my bc baseball cap if i go out, in the yard, I go out with nothing.............

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited June 2009

    Chelev:  Do you have four wigs in different styles but same color?  Wow!    I'm impressed!  I know what you mean about the brows.  I don't have a thick brow to begin with, but when they go, I figure I'll spend what time I no longer need fixing my hair, fixing my face and putting on accessories. 

    Deb:  I have a ball cap with hair that I like for errands and just hanging around the house.  Guess you can't lay on the couch in a wig so I pull the hair back in a low ponytail and lay around like that.

    I see both of your posts on the Hair, Hair, Hair thread.  (which is the busiest thread out there!)  I love seeing your progress.  How long did it take to get your "fuzzy" hair? 

    Janet

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2009

    Janet - yeah, I went a little overboard - now that it's so hot out, I don't wear the long ones (I bought two long haired wigs styled in the same style I had at dx) because they make me so sweaty with the hot flashes.  So, I bought one in a short style, similar to how I had my hair cut prior to starting chemo, and then found one more I liked.  Now, I really don't wear the long ones, unless in a ponytail, because they are so hot.  I stick with the shorter ones and I have a cap with the ponytail I wear in the avatar.  Mostly just wear bandanas around doing errands.  Very bummed this morning . . . the brows I can fill in, but my thick, long lashes, two months after last chemo, have fallen out - and I am so sad!  I am going to find out how I can get that Latisse prescription and get them growing again.  My lashes were my best feature!!

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited June 2009

    CHELEV:  I am so sorry that you are feeling bummed out.  I understand that the lashes and brows are the last to go, but also the first to come back.  So maybe they are falling out now, but new lashes are just right below the surface and ready to spring out!  By the way, I think your smile is your best feature and even chemo can't take that from you!  Smile  I find that I lay around in the cap with hair as it's more comfortable than a wig and if it's in a ponytail, I'm not damaging the fibers too much.  Do you exercise at all?  What do you wear for that? 

    Janet

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited June 2009

    Hi Ladies....

    All the chatter about hair and eyebrows and lashes...got me worried.  Its been almost 2 months since chemo and I have hardly any brows or lashes...thinking I got hit with the HAIRLESS FAIRY....and really considering permanent facial makeup...tattoo eyebrows...my legs can stay hairless and my bikini line...thats okay by me...

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited June 2009

    I have the patchy eyebrow and eyelash thing going on... I really look wild in the morning......Tongue out afternoon , and evening. I now stay away from small children....and old ladies, don't want to  frighten them.

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