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I am in the decision making phase regarding PBM. I do know I do not want reconstruction. Ideally I would like a very flat chest result with minimal scarring. Would that entail having a PS as well as BS even if I don't want any reconstruction?

Any experiences regarding appearance after masectomies?

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  • lisa-e
    lisa-e Member Posts: 819
    edited June 2009

    Cleomoon,  appearances after a mastectomy vary widely depending on a lot of factors, including the size of your breasts, your tendency to scar or not, and the skill of the surgeon. 

     My breast surgeon asked a plastic surgeon to assist with my mastectomy.  The plastic surgeon planned the incisions. My scars are not minimal as they run from my sternum to underneath my arm.  My chest is not exactly flat as  there are some ridges and bumps, but I do not have any extra skin or dog ears. 

    Have you talked to your surgeon about what you want?  I was specific with my surgeon and the plastic surgeon; I wanted to revert to my pre-adolescent chest and  I feel like they did their best to achieve that.  

    Good luck with making your decisions.

  • nagem
    nagem Member Posts: 353
    edited June 2009

    It depends. Some breast surgeons are incredibly skilled, so there's no need for a plastic surgeon. My breast surgeon was excellent. I told her I wanted to look like a 10-year-old boy—and she did it. I think I look just fine. But I'm in New York and went to a surgeon whose practice is limited to breast-cancer patients, so she has a ton of experience.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2009

    I asked for my incisions to be as straight as possible and NO dog ears! I even had a revision on my left cancer side as I felt it had too much tissue left. I had a problem both times with extra fluid build-up and just read recently that means the skin doesn't attach properly to the chest wall. I am very happy with my look.

    I had my DH rub cream into the incisions very strongly for months afterwards to help break down bumpies and encourage adherance.

    I had a general surgeon.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited June 2009

    As others have said, it probably depends on the skills of the surgeon and on your own personal anatomy.  My surgeon was a surgical oncologist, and all she did was breast cancer surgeries. She told me she did about 300 of them each year.

    My only contact with a PS was the consult I was given when I had not yet totally ruled out recon. I decided against recon, though; and in pre-op on the morning of my surgery, I reaffirmed to my surgeon that I wanted a flat, smooth scar with no extra tissue--no "dog ears." She said she understood; and that's what she did.

    My mast (left) side is completely flat and smooth. It has been since I woke up in the hospital. Now, 16 months after my surgery, my scar is a straight, narrow, faint pink line that runs from my sternum to the back side of my under-arm area (not really through my armpit, but just beneath it). The scar is barely visible except on the chest wall under my arm where there was more tension on the suture line and it's a little bit wider.

    I would classify the cosmetic results of my surgery as "very good."  I do have a small amount of flabby tissue (fat, really) just under my armpit, that poofs out a little over my scar line. It poofs because the tissue under the scar was scraped down to muscle and bone--the fat is gone. My surgeon said she tries to make the mast side look as much as possible like the other side (except for the breast, of course). She even sits her anesthetized patients upright in the OR, to see how the tissue looks with gravity pulling on it.  She assured me the poofiness could be fixed by a PS if I ever wanted it gone. I haven't bothered to do that.

    I can wear all the same clothes I wore before, and even the same bras (depending on the prosthesis). I was small-breasted before (34B/36A), and my upper chest was flat anyway; so I can wear all my same tank tops, v-neck shirts, etc., because my scar is not visible.

    YMMV, though. Ask your surgeon, or ask around about him/her. Maybe it would be a good idea to have a PS available.

    otter 

       

  • cleomoon
    cleomoon Member Posts: 443
    edited June 2009

    This place is so cool!!.I know dorky to say, but it is a wonderful place.

    Thank you Barb, Otter, Nagem and Lisa for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I figure this excisional biopsy was sorta a test run for my BS. Cant see the areola area yet as the steristrips are still on. I meet for followup to discuss my diagnosis and treatment options next week. I will ask her about her experience. I really like her a lot so I hope she really is a skilled surgeon.

    ((HUGS))

  • Lolita
    Lolita Member Posts: 231
    edited June 2009

    I also had a breast surgeon-not a plastic surgeon.  I am completely flat,and my scars are minimal.

  • 1Cathi
    1Cathi Member Posts: 1,957
    edited June 2009

    My surgeon was wonderful, my scars from Lumpectomy, MX, Excisional node removal and 2 other excisional biopsies are if you can have such a thing perfect.  Went I went in for the MX  I said to her PLEASE MAKE PRETTY SCARS- and she did,  now I can't say that I am completely flat on my Left side,  and not by any fault of BS, I had had previous rads and some pretty good tissue damage, so my left side after 8/mo's (and most likely will stay this way) is quite bumpy and lumpy, nothing noticeable however to an outsider,  my right side is completely flat and smooth.

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited June 2009

    I'm another who had my breast surgeon do my bilateral mastectomy surgery. She had already done five previous surgeries on my breasts (excisional biopsy and two wide excisions on the right, then three years later two wide excisions on the left before I decided to have the bilateral mastectomy). She performed absolute miracles on my right side lumpectomy, where a great deal of tissue had to be removed, yet my breast looked great afterward, so I had a lot of confidence in her. When I decided to have the bilateral, I asked her to make the scars as cosmetically pleasing as possible. She did a great job, creating two totally symmetrical, thin horizontal scars.

    My radiated side has had a small problem, but nothing that had anything to do with the surgery. I'm almost three years out from the operation and, up until about a month ago, still had a small amount of residual fluid just in front of my underarm, which slightly distorted the scar on that side (the fluid probably lingered because the drainage on the radiated side is compromised). The scar is much better now that the fluid has finally dissipated and is now almost totally straight, as it was immediately post-surgery. So 1Cathi, don't give up hope. Your radiated side may continue to improve, especially if you get some physical therapy on the radiated side to break up adhesions.   

  • Raye99
    Raye99 Member Posts: 1,350
    edited June 2009

    I too had a breast surgeon do my mastectomy and then a year later she did a prophylactic mast on my other breast. There was a ps in the room for the first mast, as I thought I was going to have tissue expanders placed, but that plan went out the window when they discovered my lymph node involvement and that I would need radiation.

    My bs did a wonderful job. She is terrific. I can barely see the scars and have no dog ears. Woof. My chest feels a bit bumpy from the bones beneath, but the appearance is smooth. The only "complaint" I have is that on my prophy side, since she did a simple mast and not a modified radical mast, there is a bit more chub as she didn't have to take as much tissue.

    Good luck to you Cleomoon.

    Raye 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2009
    I must admit, that at first I asked for smiley faces, Wink but he managed to change my mind...hehehehe
  • cleomoon
    cleomoon Member Posts: 443
    edited June 2009

    Smiley faces LOL.

    I am already looking at tatoo options...lifelike adhesive breasts.. I definetly will be decorating my bare chest in some way....Cool

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited June 2009

    I'm getting a butterfly to join my two incisions in the middle then a ramble of organic viney things with leaves and flowers to each arm pit. Wow, that didn't sound very delicate did it! ? But I can do it in stages to make it a bit easier on the wallet.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited June 2009

    i'm totally flat on one side and am very happy.. i'm pretty small busted so it is easy to go braless.. or formless.  i went to a very experienced general surgeon.

  • NancyNJ
    NancyNJ Member Posts: 128
    edited June 2009

    I joke that I could lie on my back and you could eat a bowl of cereal out of the hole in my chest which looked nothing like what I had expected. I expected a flat chest like my friend but when I asked the BS she explained with the xrays that it was based on the location of my tumors and the margin requirements.

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited June 2009

    NancyNJ,

    I LOVE your description!  That's exactly how my left side turned out!  I had been hoping for the flat look, and I was very disappointed, but I'd rather be free of cancer than have a flat chest, if that is the price!  Thanks for the laugh and the description.  I may use that some time! (My right side is more like 3/4 of a thin bagel!)

    Dawn 

  • starzhere
    starzhere Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2009

    I had a surgical oncologist from UCLA do my surgery and my chest looks great.

    barbe1958, your tatoo idea sounds great.

    elaine

  • JudyNaomi
    JudyNaomi Member Posts: 1,413
    edited July 2009

    Hi 1cathi. I had a bilateral mastectomy in March 2009. I have been having chemo since and finish treatment in just under 3 weeks. I am 40 years old. I was supposed to have reconstruction and it didn't work so I had to have a second surgery to remove the tissue expanders. Now I find myself flat, which wasn't what I had planned, but am not keen to have surgery again. It has all been so traumatic that I just cannot face it. How did you cope with losing breasts and still manage to feel good about yourself? I would prefer to feel good about myself rather than have more surgery for cosmetic purposes.

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