RADIATION FATIGUE - POLL

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  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited May 2009

    Hi dear sisters, everyone of us needs to be aware and alert to the possibility of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.  This affects many people with long term medical problems.  Not everyone, for sure, but a lot of us have this result.

    So the constant, unrelenting fatigue, the depression, the lack of interest in things you have always enjoyed, all are part of this syndrome, as well as waking up at 3am and unable to go back to sleep.

    So get help for this if it lasts very long.

    Gentle hugs, Shirlann

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Thanks Shihrlann.  I've never been a worrier and perhaps that is helping me through this as "this too shall pass".  I seem to be saililng through this too easily and although I hope that continues, at least I can know in the back of my mind that "something" can still come about and not be blindsided by it.

  • VisaliaMom
    VisaliaMom Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2009

    I had more fatigue with chemo, which went from 6/12/08 to 11/20/08, than I did with radiation.  I had very little fatigue during radiation.  I had four weeks rest between chemo and radiation therapy.  I had 31 tx + 5 boosts of rads that ended 2/13/09.  I worked 8-hours days during my rad treatments. Also agree with Nelia48 to keep using the creams.  I used the pure aloe vera gel and the aquafor, but at one point the skin started to break.  Then I was prescribed a generic for Silvadene, which worked amazingly. The onc rad nurse said it's a topical antibiotic cream.  My skin was totally healed within a week from the last treatment.  The skin and scar is beautifully smooth and tanned! : )

  • rdrake0
    rdrake0 Member Posts: 180
    edited May 2009

    I teach, and my school won't let us take an hour.  It's half day!  That really helped!  I had my rads at 8am, came home and took a nap.  Had a high protein lunch and went to my afternoon half day.  I wasn't really tired until a week after the rads ended.  Then it was like I hit a brick wall!  Now a month later, I do sometimes get tired, but usually at the end of the day.  I did not do chemo.  I am taking Arimidex which I started 5 days after the last rad tx.  That might account for some of the fatigue, too.

    I'm taking a ton of supplements.  I found that Omega-3 gave me diarrhea really bad.  I was taking 4x2400mg.  Now I take 1 in the morning.  Still have diarrhea, but not as bad.

  • SusieMTN
    SusieMTN Member Posts: 795
    edited May 2009

    Still on radiation, 6 weeks with 5 boosts, I am on Aromasin.  6 Months of Chemo, the last one was 2 Jan., Surgery Jan 30, 2009.  The fatigue was no where close to Chemo fatigue.  I can still walk and do stuff but all of a sudden boom, I am too pooped out to finish.  I will also sit down to take a break and then will realize I have slept for 1 or 2 hours. 

    nelia48 wrote:  Hi Cora, I notice on you  blog that you said you had racing thoughts, me too.  I thought it was just me!  Honestly, I think it is the radiation.  I also don't sleep which I am sure is the Aromasin, as I am doing the throwing off the covers routine at night and of course hot flashes. 

    What do you feel for you is the cause?

    Susie

  • sfbaer
    sfbaer Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2009

    My mom is on 25 rounds of high dosage rads. She finished 18 of them and fatigue hits her very hard. It was a breeze for her 2.5 yrs ago, but this time the treatment started about 5 weeks after 5 rounds of high dosage T/C so perhaps the leftover chemo toxicity plus the radiation are too harsh for my mom to take. Both onc and radiiologist said it's side effect of radiatoin. The fatigue doesn't just make her tired but completely powerless, and she cries a lot due to that tired feeling. She says it feels like her arms are no longer attached to her body, as if she has been moving rocks for days. I hope my mom's case doesn't scare anyone of you who's going to start rads. It was really a breeze for my mom and so is a lot of women.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Well my rads are all done and the burns are all healed and to be honest it wasn't until about week 5 of rads that I started to feel the fatigue.  Some days I am totally fine and other days, man, like I have been hit by a truck.  As much as I know it would drive me batty, there are days when I wish I didn't work. 

    I walked and did yoga throughout both chemo and rads, granted that is less than I was used to doing but it was better than not working out for me. Just this past week, I have started running...slow and interspersed with walks and building up so I can run 10K.  Also, I eat very healthy - vegetarian, organic, etc.  So question for y'all...any idea how long this fatigue thing will camp at my door?

  • Lainey64
    Lainey64 Member Posts: 740
    edited May 2009

    Today is my last one - #33 and I am feeling great.  I only have some minor sunburn and no real fatigue.  I am tired in the evenings but nothing out of the usual.  I am working full time and exercising 3-4 times a week after rad treatments.  I've actually lost a few pounds since rads began.  I started rads two weeks after my last chemo.  Personally, for myself, I think a positive attitude is everything!

  • koshka1
    koshka1 Member Posts: 678
    edited May 2009

    Hi there...

    I did the shorter protocol in Canada...16 rads and 4 boosts...I think the treatment is stronger and shorter.

    Anyway, I felt the affects of the radiation after the first treatment and was absolutely exhausted.  '

    This in the same sense...was totally do-able!  I just paced myself and rested a lot.

    Hugs and be strong!

    Kosh

  • AllieM22
    AllieM22 Member Posts: 464
    edited May 2009

    I was ok thru rads although wasn't working--and no kids to take care of! But I did take it easy and lay down when i needed to--also tried to walk at least a mile every day. I think that helped a lot. But everyone reacts differently. I did get some fatigue oddly enough a few weeks ago--it was like I was taking an antihistamine, you know where you feel sluggish and just want to go put your head down? I met with a nutritionist (separate from this issue) and she suggested that I get my folate, iron and B-12 levels tested, along with the vitamin D test she suggests for all cancer patients. So I will do that later this week. I did start taking an extra B complex vitamin along with a regular multiple. Seems to have helped a bit. She said not to take more iron or folates before the test but that a B complex was fine to add.

  • Jane1
    Jane1 Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2009

    Thank you for sharing! I thought I was being a baby. Have had 14 trmnts/16 for rads and am tired, worn out actually, and worrying how the heck am I supposed to go back to work in a week or two. My emotions are really weired right now too, thought I should be happy about trmnt ending and being home as usual, but I find I am kinda freaking out about who will look after me now. love & light to you and to all people reading this. We will beat this bastard undescriminating disease, which plays with too many lives. Here's to the cure!!!

  • wwgoddess
    wwgoddess Member Posts: 19
    edited May 2009

    So did you take any time off of work--do you think it wise to take time off during radiation if one has the sick time?  Or to work half time?

  • tennisgirl
    tennisgirl Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2009

    I am interested in this too.  I just had my last chemo today, and will be starting radiation soon.  5x per week, for 6 wks.  Is it normal to just work through it all or is it common to schedule time off?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Hey wwgoddess and tennisgirl,  I think you will find that some women work through rads, some work half time and some take the entire time off.  Unfortunately, there is no straight cut answer for this question since all of us experience rads differently to one degree or another.  I worked straight through my rads and while I ended up with skin breakdown towards the end of treatment and also some fatigue as well.  I didn't find my skin breakdown or fatigue bad enough for me to take time off..but that's just me.  If your work will allow you to take time off if you find that you need to do so without having to decide ahead of treatment you might want to go that route.  Best of luck.

  • swirleymel
    swirleymel Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2009

    I had only 10 rounds of rads to my brain but the fatigue was unbelievable! It started almost right away and lasted around 6 weeks. I am on Arimidex and it is not the first time I have had Radiation - had it to both breasts and both axilla along with chemo 12 years ago but only at the end did I feel zonked.

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited May 2009

    I had radiation after 6 rounds of TCH chemo. I started rads 5 weeks after my last chemo treatment. I had almost no fatigue due to radiation. I did get tired around mid-afternoon a couple of times at the start and once took a nap. Maybe that was the after effect of chemo - but it wasn't any worse than one might feel some days when not on cancer treatment - sometimes the mid-afternoon drowsyness just strikes. Other than that, I felt I had normal energy levels - perhaps because I felt so much better than I had during chemo.

    I worked full time all through rads and never felt it was a strain to do so. Working through chemo was much harder and I did have to take some days off then.

    My RBC was low at the end of chemo and I was still anemic at the end of rads so I'm surprised I felt good.

    I had almost no burns from rads. Mostly my breast just got pink, swollen and kind of tender. The only area that felt burnt was under my arm. Perhaps that was because at the beginning I didn't think the field extended that far so I wasn't putting aloe vera gel and moisturizer there. But it also seems to be a pretty common place to burn. It was only first degree - no blisters.

  • lynniejojo
    lynniejojo Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2009

    I am having a lumpectomy next week due to DCIS.  This will be followed by 6 weeks of radiation.  I plan on working during this since I am single and need the income.  However, I work night shift, 12 hours a night. Four nights one week and 3 the next. I'm worried about this fatigue thing and just wondering if any night shifters can give me some insight on this.  By the way--I just turned 56 yrs. old.

    Linda

  • nelia48
    nelia48 Member Posts: 539
    edited May 2009

    Linda, I don't work a night shift, but I could have during radiation since I couldn't sleep a wink anyways!!!!!  I was tired, but just couldn't sleep!

  • CHER07
    CHER07 Member Posts: 16
    edited May 2009

    JO-5;

    I am suffering with nausea with my rads tx. started the first day & hasnt let up since. the Dr. says maybe because I am being zapped so close tomy esophogus . Still hunting an ant-nausea pill that will help.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited June 2009

    Cher-I had nausea with rads too for a couple of weeks.  I took zofran just before my treatment and it really helped.

  • KAK
    KAK Member Posts: 1,679
    edited June 2009

    I'm bumping this thread.  I feel a lot better than I did for months after my rads, but I still am tired, not at all back to my usual energy.  I found a downloadable brochure on this put out by Living Beyond Breast Cancer, so I uploaded it to my website & here's a link:

    Understanding Insomnia & Fatigue

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited June 2009

    Fatigue hit me yesterday at tx #10.  I also am feeling a sense of vertigo for the first time.  Anybody else?

  • Laura3
    Laura3 Member Posts: 59
    edited June 2009

    No veritgo for me, just some mild nausea.  Most of my constant fatigue has gone away, I am at 21 out of 33.  I just seem to have it in weird unexpected waves, hitting when I least expect.  I guess thats better than constant....  I do have one question.  I am having 5-6 boosts at the end.  Can I expect anything new from that?  Any new skin stuff...fatigue, etc.  If any one has had the boosts and can let me know I would appreciate it. 

    I hope all of you are doing well and able to nap.....Take Care, Laura

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2009

    Laura3...I didn't find that my skin got any worse when I had my boosts..then again the area that they did the boosts never broke down at all.  Did find that the areas (under my arm, under my boob and up on my collar bone) that I did have problems with seemed to get worse after radiation was over before they got better.  It took about 3 weeks after radiation for my skin to heal. 

    Also found that I didn't experience any fatigue at all during radiation but once it was all over...a totally different story.  I am 6 wks post rads and still having problems with the fatigue.  I do exercise every day and I work outside the home...some days the fatigue is not a huge problem other days I feel like I could just curl up under my desk and sleep the entire day.

    Good luck with your boosts...and remember ...this to shall pass!

  • BlueGirlRedState
    BlueGirlRedState Member Posts: 1,031
    edited June 2009

    After 5 weeks of RAD I am on the final stretch on week 6, the "boost week", following a lumpectomy. I am also taking Tamoxafen.  No chemo.  I thought I would sail through, then about  the end of week 3, I started feeling fatigued, and increased sensitivity, particularly the nipple.  Usually on the "rest days" on the weekend , but usually only for a day or so.  Normally I'm very active, and even when fatigued, I would at least take a walk (my dog makes me).  Also started accupuncture when radiation started, and I think that helps with overall stress.

  • Laura3
    Laura3 Member Posts: 59
    edited June 2009

    Purpleme...Thanks for the info...I seem to have the same reaction you have, under the boob, on the side, and in front cleavage area.  They told me to use cortaid on the red bumps and that seems to help.  Not so itchy....After today I only have to go 9 more times....Can't wait to be over.  The only worry is that everyone seems to have the worst SE after its over.  So, I guess I can't feel so lucky yet.  Everything so far has been tolerable.  A little lotion and a good nap! 

    Hope you are all well, Laura

  • CollegeGirl
    CollegeGirl Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2009

    22 rads and it wasn't that bad at all... i did have to have a nap in the early afternoon though, but i think part of the reason why could be the fact that i had to be up at 5:45am every day in order to get to the hospital by 7am. Kept having the daily exercise and dancing, not as intense as before of course, so maybe that's also what helped me go through it quite well.

  • pj12
    pj12 Member Posts: 25,402
    edited June 2009

    This thread is very helpful.  I had 28 regular tx, 8 boosts. No chemo.  Lumpectomy.  I never felt anything as dramatic as "fatigue" but tremendous anxiety the whole time.  Anticipating the treatment made me shake, every time!  I am normally a calm person but found the whole process very stressful.  I took a "lay-me-down" every day but could not nap, went to bed early every night but slept fitfully.  I am 4 days post-radiation and feel MUCH better already.  More enthusiasm for everything, sleeping better too.  It's quite hot where I live so have to be careful not to be over-heated... that will make me feel weak and light headed right now.  But I feel much less tense and anxious and like I just might get back to normal.  Make taking care of yourself a priority!!!

  • kawee
    kawee Member Posts: 324
    edited July 2009

    I also have lupus and sjogrens and am going to start radiation.  I am already fatigued from 2 breast surgeries and don't know what to expect.  I know it affects everyone differently, but with the autoimmune fatigue I am concerned.

  • MBCR
    MBCR Member Posts: 161
    edited July 2009

    I felt very fatigued near the end of treatment. I was sleeping later in the mornings & sometimes had to take naps. But doing some type of exercise definetly helped w/ my energy level.

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