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I am leaning against reconstruction however I seem to be changing my mind from week to week. I talked with my hubby about it and he is concerned I won't be happy without breasts for the rest of my life.  I feel like I wouldn't mind being smaller however without nipples, I wonder if I will be happy? I don't want to be disappointed after reconstruction and regret having it done.

So, I wanted to ask everyone, when did you know for sure? Was it immediate or did it take you some time to decide.

I want to be satisifed with the end result.

I will be posting this message in the Reconstruction section as well to get the other side.

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  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited May 2009

    I kind of got everything thrown at me at once since I did bilateral first before chemo.  So I just kind of went with suggestion of first surgeon (immediate reconstruction with expanders).  I did realize there was a chance it could fail (because of radiation) but then thought I would have other options.  So I guess I never considered not having reconstruction.  If I had to do it again, I would do it again but there are many people who dont and are very happy with their decision.

    I was diagnosed on June 5th last year and hopefully will be getting my nipple tatts (that IS something I have gone back and forth on a million times - nipple reconstruction and decided against it) on June 5th of this year. 

    Not sure that was helpful at all.

    And I just realized I posted in the wrong place.  Sorry.

  • Hoolianama0508
    Hoolianama0508 Member Posts: 162
    edited May 2009

    This helps me for sure. Having to wait at least 3 months before surgery has me pondering and wondering to much.

    Good to hear that if you had to do it over again, you would. How do you feel without nipple tattoos?

  • angeljoy
    angeljoy Member Posts: 128
    edited May 2009

    When I was first diagnosed, the plan was to have a bilateral and depending on the sentinel node biopsy and other pathology, possibly chemo. It didn't appear that I would need radiation. Plastic surgeon recommended immediate reconstruction with expanders, saying I did not have enough tissue for flap surgery.

     I was then surprised to find, after mastectomy was done and expanders were placed, that they also recommended radiation due to amount of positive lymph nodes and size of the mass(which was ILC and bigger than imaging and biopsy had indicated). In my case, the radiation caused capsular contracture, I also got an infection during exchange surgery(also more likely when you have radiation), and the implant on the cancer side eventually failed. It was removed and for 5 months, I have had one implant and one flat side. I think I don't want to spend one more day of my life recovering from plastic surgery, and I am doing fine with a prosthesis.  I am pretty sure I can be "happy" with one breast for the rest of my life. But I am also thinking there is no time limit on recon.  Maybe one day I will change my mind or there may be recon options developed that I can see myself going through. Meanwhile, I'm OK with my body. I have some lumpiness on the flat side from the infection, etc. I think taking care of that would require another surgery, so I will probably just live with it.

     I think if I had known I was going to need radiation, I might have pursued recon with my own tissue. My PS said I wasn't a good candidate. since they told me he was the best, I  didn't get a second opinion. I should have. Or I might have put off a decision until more was known about my cancer. I wish I had found this community pre-mastectomy so I could have done exactly what you are doing...talking to people who've been through it all.

    So I guess my advice is to keep asking questions, keep talking to people, do your research, and take your time deciding on recon.  There is no rush.

    Good luck to you with everything!

    Angela

  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited May 2009

    re: nipple tattoos - I just want it done and overwith.  I dont want more surgery (nipple recon), I am afraid that it would cause more trouble that is worth (lymphedema) and has a high fail rate, especially after radiation.  I was afraid they would be different and would not have symmetry between breasts.

     I just  want to walk past the mirror and catch a glimpse of normalcy - hopefully tatts will do that. 

    I am grateful that I havent had CC (yet I suppose) and just want to try to have a normal life without constant docs and surgeries, etc.

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited May 2009

    Hi Hoolianama,

    I had a lot of the feelings you describe. More than some women, perhaps, I was very worried that if I went ahead with reconstruction and it didn't go well, I would be devastated. Since I'm slim, I knew that if I didn't have reconstruction I wouldn't look too out of proportion even with a flat chest and that if I wore breast forms, they would be on the small side and therefore very lightweight.

    I did consult with an excellent plastic surgeon and even scheduled lat flap reconstruction (I'd had radiation on one side, so implants were out, I didn't have enough tissue for DIEP, and I didn't want to sacrifice what little I have on my butt for GAP). After much soul-searching, I concluded recon wasn't right for me and cancelled the lat flaps. One thing that helped is that my husband actually preferred that I not have reconstruction--he wanted me to have the minimum surgery possible, though he would have supported whatever decision I made.

    Although I chose not to have skin-sparing mastectomies (I wanted a smooth flat chest), it has been helpful to know that if I ever change my mind, reconstruction is still an option.

    Almost three years later, I haven't regretted my decision. I'm happy to say that my husband hasn't regretted it either. I've chosen to wear breast forms and feel very natural and confident in clothes. I started a non-profit website, BreastFree.org, to help women going through the difficult process of deciding whether or not to have reconstruction and to provide information and advice about living breast-free. Perhaps you'd find some of the Personal Stories and other information on the site helpful.

    Best wishes, whatever you decide.

    Barbara 

  • lisa-e
    lisa-e Member Posts: 819
    edited May 2009

    It is a hard decision.  When I told my doctors that I was considering not having reconstruction, I was told well you can always have reconstruction at a later date.  

    My immediate reaction was not to have reconstruction, but my surgeon asked me to speak with a plastic surgeon about reconstruction, so I could make an informed decision.  After seeing the plastic surgeon, I talked to various people about reconstruction, including my osteopath and physical therapist.  I had major concerns with both implants and analogous tissue transplants.  I didn't want to put anything between my pecs , I didn't want yet another scar on my body (I've also had a total hip replacement) and to minimize surgery.  After thinking about it, I decided against reconstruction.

    I told my surgeon I wanted to return to my pre-pubescent chest, ie. smooth and flat).   As I was quite busty, he asked the plastic surgeon I saw to help plan the incisions.  The incisions were planned to remove any extra skin, but left  more natural 'breast cone' if I ever opt for reconstruction.

    I am pretty happy with the results.  I have some lumps and bumps around the scars but they don't bother me a lot.  I wear breast forms about 10% of the time, when I am  dressed up.  But most of the time I go flat.  As my normal attire is  informal,  tee-shirt and pants,  I think I look fine.  I don't get any odd looks, except from people who knew me pre-mast.  Then explanations are in order...

  • Sassa
    Sassa Member Posts: 1,588
    edited May 2009

    My first inclination was not to have reconstruction.  Last fall (almost two years post left breast mastectomy, 1 1/2 years post right breast mastectomy) I decided that I definitely did not want reconstruction.  I hate mastectomy bras and most of the time I go flat.  I visited a plastic surgeon to discuss scar revision and he suggested that I seriously think about reconstruction as I am so "young" (58). 

    Well I did go home and think about it; couldn't decide.  About a month after I saw the PS, I went on a cruise.  I have lost a lot of weight, lost two huge flopping breasts from mastectomy, and had a lot of new cute dresses and tops to wear.  For my evening clothes, I planned to either wear my prostheses with my iron maiden mastectomy bras or just attached them inside the dresses.

    Neither method worked very well for the clothes I wanted to wear, so off I went back to the plastic surgeon in November to discuss reconstruction.  Since then, I have though about it and, as time goes by, am coming down on the side of reconstruction.  The final shoe dropped when I went clothes window shopping in a store with fantastic dresses and tops that I absolutely love.  They would not look good if I go flat and will not work with the ugly mastectomy bras.  I don't want to spend the rest of my life in tee shirts.

     I came home and called a plastic surgeon ( a different one than my first two visits for a variety of reasons) to discuss reconstruction.  I am pretty sure I am going to do it.

    I am seeing the plastic surgeon this Tuesday and am surprised to find myself excited (also nervous) about doing reconstruction (implants).

    It is a complete turn around from what I thought I wanted and has taken 2 1/2 years post mastectomy to come to this point. 

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited May 2009

    I'm still undecided, too. I'm doing fine with a prothesis for now. I'm not comfortable with any of the reconstruction options currently available, so I'm in no rush.

    The British and the Japanese are currently working on creating breast tissue with stem cells and stomach fat. Apparently, they're at the stage where they can "fill" the hollowed out area from a lumpectomy, and the tissue feels normal, has its own blood vessels, and doesn't have a high failure rate. I'm thinking that in five years or so, perhaps they'll be able to create at least an entire small breast. I'm willing to wait a while and see how this develops.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2009

    i am cancer challenged.  my onc is VERY relieved that i have expressed no interest whatsoever in reconstruction.. she told me that for those who are at risk of future recurrence, having no breast tissue is desirable.. so that any mets to the ribs, lymph nodes etcetera can be actually felt and not just guessed or be seen with scans.

    i am fortunate that my husband is ok with that.  i am kind of androgynous in a way so i am very comfortable.. some women might not be.

    i have chosen to wear woven fabrics rather than knits... i  wear a bra that creates the illusion of a bust line on my missing side so i look normal if i want to.

  • caaclark
    caaclark Member Posts: 936
    edited May 2009

    I know Barbara mentioned the website breastfree.org.  My story is there under Carol so I won't repeat it here but I do not regret my choice to skip reconstruction.  My husband says the same thing.  Frequently when I get dressed he says, "Why would you ever consider it when you look so great without it?"  I have to say, I agree with him.  But like most things in the breast cancer journey it is such a personal decision.

  • ginamaria
    ginamaria Member Posts: 108
    edited May 2009

    I'm 10 years post masectomy and am now deciding to have recon-I have larger breast(s) and my proth is HEAVY.  I have to be careful about the clothes I buy as I don't always wear a mx bra and don't want my proth to show.  I have came up with every reason to delay this decision and have decided that enough is enough.  For a while I was waiting for the reoccuence(you know how it is). I am lucky to have not had any lymphedema or restriction of movement and am afraid that I will be asking for trouble. My hubby and I have done great with this for all these years---when I was first dx I realized that I was so much more than just breasts!  So am going to buck up and go for it!  The good thing about making this decision is you are in charge of if and when.

  • PT6
    PT6 Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2009

    My first mastectomy was 31 years ago and I have used a prosthesis since that time. I am not large breasted but have technical problems. Even with the best mastectomy bras I find the bra and prosthesis shift -sort of a uniboob look. Or it moves to the outside near my armpit. I have even had the prosthesis fall out and land on its edge then roll completely across a room full of people with me chasing it (I still wonder what all of those people thought.). I now have to have a mastectomy for my remaining breast and feel that there will be "engineering" problems. I have been finding the prostheses increasingly uncomfortable and with no breast to stabilize my bra, I have images of the bra twisting to the point that my boobs are poking out my back instead of the front. I am see 2 different ps tomorrow to decide what to do.  Then when I think that I have made up my mind a friend, who had reconstruction 7 years ago, tells me that her implant feels like a baseball.  Oh, dear. I'm not sure what to do.

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited May 2009

    It sounds as if you weren't fitted well for your mastectomy bras and breast form (prosthesis). Especially since you're not large breasted, you should be comfortable and look good. Many women here report that once they put their breast form on they forget it's there.

    We're all different, so I can't really predict how you would find being breast-free after your second mastectomy. But, speaking for myself, my bras don't shift or ride up. I don't like really tight bras, but even though I don't wear mine very tight, they don't shift around. 

    That said, it sounds like a good idea to consult with a couple of plastic surgeons. I did and it helped me reach my decision (non-recon in my case). You could also delay reconstruction and see how you feel after the mastectomy.

    It's a tough decision. Good luck.

    Barbara

    BreastFree.org

  • kmccraw423
    kmccraw423 Member Posts: 3,596
    edited May 2009

    There is a way to go for me before I decide on reconstruction for other medical reasons.  I want it just because I think it would be easier wearing clothes, etc.  I know with my mastectomy bra it feels like everything is drifting up to my chin and the bra is cut so high I can't wear a lot of my wardrobe.  Right now, I am content to go braless and breast-less.  Who knows what the future holds.

  • AEK
    AEK Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2009

    I decided against reconstruction surgery, not for any one reason  apart from the fact that I don't enjoy pain and having to go through this again  was just not my ideal.

    I have found a solution to many of the bra issues and inserts. I spoke with a friend who put me in touch with a shop in Toronto called:: Take a walk on the wild side. The shop is not yoir run of the mill"ladies shop" but it does cater to men who are cross dressers and transvestites. Who knows womens bodies better at times?

    I contacted the store owner lovely  person by the name of Paddy and she told me she has many women customers who are post surgery they are properly fitted not these hard lump things that slide up from your bra. but very natural feeling inserts with nipples or not  that are far more appealing than what you find in womens stores.

    Here is the web site. I sent away for the brochure there are some great articles good prices and you don't feel like you have been robbed..

     www.wildside.org

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited May 2009

    Hi,

    My story is a little different.  I had a left side mastectomy in 07 and at the time I was absolutely not going to have reconstruction.  I felt very comfortable with this decision.  Or so I thought.  I spent a year doing chemo, I didn't do radiation.  about 7 months after my surgery I made a trip to florida for some fun in the sun.  I was very unhappy at how difficult it was to find a bathing suit that looked good.  I also was tired of having to find clothing that wasnt too low.  For me I was realizing that maybe I did want reconstruction after all.  I saw 3 PS and after I decided that I indeed wanted to do it.  I had my right breast removed and expanders placed.  That was March 30th.  I have had 5 fills now and I look forward to each fill to see the difference.  I love the fact that I can wear a tank top and look great.  I am going to be honest the surgery hurt.  Alot.  It didn't last long and the drugs helped.  But I dont regret it at all.  For me, it was worth it. 

    Teresa

  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited May 2009

    For me there was never any question - no more surgery.  By the time I got to the bilateral mast. it was my 4th breast surgery and I had absolutely had it those breasts.  Clearly they were past their "best before" date and I wasn't going to have them reconsituted no way, no how.  My surgeon didn't even suggest of PS consult, possibly because I had already been radiated on both sides or because I was so adamant. 

    At first it felt pretty strange, especially when I rolled over in bed.  And I admit I sometimes look wistfully was some clothes that are very pretty, but would look silly on me.   It's been a bit over a year and I still haven't gotten around to getting any prostheses.  It just didn't seem necessary.  My onc. says I can still change my mind, but I'm 63 and it seems unlikely.  My attitude would likely have been different a few decades ago.

    Now I think it would be sort of cool to show in the "wild side" place.  I wonder if my insurance would accept that?

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited June 2009

    I'm following this thread with lots of interest!  I've had a mastectomy and will have a phophylactic (sp??) on the other side this fall.  The plan was to start recon then but now I'm not so sure...  I'm not a big person so I don't have the prothesis issues that some have (heavy, etc) but want to feel *normal* someday.  YKWIM??

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited June 2009

    When I found out I had BC, I knew fairly quickly that I wanted a mast instead of lumpectomy/rads; and I never even considered having a prophy on the other side.  ...But, I wasn't absolutely sure that I didn't want recon.  So my breast surgeon/surgical onco referred me to a good PS for a consult prior to my mast/SNB. The PS she recommended was someone who specialized in recon on women having BC surgery.  My surgeon's nurses all told me the PS was "terrific--you'll really like him."  (I did.)

    When did I decide for sure that I didn't want recon?  Somewhere in the middle of the consult with the PS.  My dh and I were there together.  We watched a video, looked at before & after pics, and saw drawings of how the various recon surgeries were done. The PS checked out my available tissue and what could be moved where; and he said I was a candidate for just about any of the options.

    But, after hearing how long the flap and microvascular surgeries took, and what the risks were; and after listening to the PS say over and over that implants would eventually fail--they didn't last forever; and after seeing the photos of women fairly soon post-op, ... I bailed out.  Or, maybe I chickened out.

    I guess I never really was on-board for recon.  I had told my surgeon there was only a 10-15% likelihood I would want it. Still, she thought it was important for women to hear about all the options, and to understand that we can have immediate recon, or we can leave extra tissue for later; and we can always change our minds (either way, actually). 

    So, I said "Thanks, but no thanks."  Nobody had hard feelings.  (The PS was very good, and very, very understanding. He told me to call him any time, if I changed my mind.) 

    I am now 16 months out from my left mast/SNB, and I have no regrets. I've always been small (34B/36A), and, as Barbara suggested, it's probably easier for women who aren't dealing with a double-D on one side and a bare chest on the other.  I just wear regular bras--no need for those iron-maiden things or a turtle-neck bra. My scar line is well hidden, and my chest has always been flat anyway.

    Right now, I'm sitting here wearing jeans and a T-shirt and no bra. And, nobody cares.

    Hugs....

    otter 

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited June 2009

    Otter,

    So you didn't have a bi-lat?  Doesn't the "one boob" feeling drive you nuts? It does me... If nothing else, I want to be symmetrical. LOL!!  Plus, I just feel that this other one will let me down too someday...

    Michele

  • Dolores81035
    Dolores81035 Member Posts: 82
    edited June 2009

    I am having a left mastectomy on July 13,09. When do you get fitted for a prosthess before or

    after surgery.  My surgeon wants me to wait for one year before having reconstruction. I am also confused about doing reconstruction.

  • charmd
    charmd Member Posts: 118
    edited June 2009

    Thank you for your post.  It really helps me think through the decisons I am trying to make.  I completed my chemo 2 weeks ago, and met with the surgeron and plastic surgeon last week.  I am having a bilateral mastectomy, but have not decided on reconstruction.  I will have to have radiation as well.  When I met with the plastic surgeon, I left his office very upset.  I don't want implants and he said he doesn't do the other flap procedures.  He is attitude left me feeling like I was out of control with my own health care.  My husband doesn't care what I do, as long as I'm happy.  I think I am just going to table the reconstruction for now. I can always do it later if I want.   It helps to hear your and other women's experiences. Thank you.

  • Hoolianama0508
    Hoolianama0508 Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2009

    I just had my bilateral mastectomy with expanders on Dec 9th and am doing great. Thank you to all who responded. Your comments helped me make the best choice for myself. I hope you all are well.

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited December 2009

    I am so glad to read all of your postings.  I am scheduled for my bilateral mastectomy1/6/10, I, too, consulted with a PS - a doc my BS recommended, and my husband and I really liked him.  But I'm not convinced I'm ready for reconstruction right off the bat.  He only does TRAM and implants, and there's only enough of "me" to do one breast for a TRAM.  I really don't like the idea of a foreign object/substance in my body, but I don't think I like the idea of being a flattie with a scar either.  I'm not a well endowed person, though, so it's not as if that's the issue.  In fact, up until a few years ago, I'd go braless unless I was heading to church....

    I thought I was going to be ok with all of this, but as THE day is getting closer, I'm not so much thinking about the cancer being taken away from my body as I am thinking about losing my body parts.  I know that sounds silly.  I'm 50 years old.  I don't need my breasts anymore, and I'd rather lose them than my eyes, my arms, or my kidneys.  But I'm really having a hard time with this. 

    The PS was reassuring, though, that is I decide to go with reconstruction, all I have to do is call him and we'd schedule the TE.  I don't want to go bigger or anything...just stay the same. 

    I was looking at clothes on the clearance racks last night....and realized I have NO idea what I'll be looking like in a few weeks....what my shape will be....what will fit me.....I guess it's all hitting...had a long cry this morning.

    My wonderful husband of 26 years is supportive....

    guess I've gotten a little off track...sorry.  But I, too, am struggling with this decision...

  • claude1944
    claude1944 Member Posts: 63
    edited December 2009

    I am a 12 year survivor and did not want reconstruction at the time of my diagnosis and masectomy...All I could concentrate on was getting rid of the cancer.  After about a yr. I found I was staying stuck in my grief and knew that I would have to have a new breast to feel totally healed. I had a saline implant with tissue expanders and a slight lift on the good breast to make me even.  They tattooed a nipple on and had no pain or trouble with any of it.  I was 50 yrs. old at the time...It really gave me a whole positive attitude and I have never been sorry that I had it done...Have had the same artificial boob for over 10 yrs. now...Best of luck with your dicision...Caludia  Hopkins MN.

  • franie
    franie Member Posts: 73
    edited December 2009

    I feel your pain and understand the difficulty of the decision you are making. Woman on this forum have chosen to do different things for there own reason. Many have chosen to go flat or have reconstruction. I was a DDD before my bilateral. I did not want reconstruction or skin sparing surgery. I wanted to be as flat as possible so I could easily wear breast prosthesis. My forms are a DDD and even though nothing can replace what I lost I have maintained my appearance, which was important to me, and I don't have a foreign substance in my body. As the PS said that you consulted with, you can choose to have reconstruction at a later date. Only you can know what is right for you and it is great that you have a supportive spouse. Gob bless you and good luck with what you decide.

  • KorynH
    KorynH Member Posts: 301
    edited December 2009
     I totally understand your conflicted feelings. I was there just one year ago.  I had a single mastectomy and when I met with my PS he told me that he wasn't rushing my decision but did want me to be clear on this one fact....your skin will be more plaible and able to give the most satisfactory esthetic outcome if you do reconstruction at the time of your surgery because the skin will be more stretchy and fresh, free from scar tissue, etc. He was willing to do whatever I wanted or even at a later date but I would not have gotten the same outcome.  I had expander put in at that time and the implant replacement surgery in July.  While I do totally hate having this 5 inch scar and lack of any sensation of feeling in that breast (or shape, as I call it),no nipple,  I would have those things whether or not I had reconstruction. At least this way my clothes fit normal, I have good posture, can sleep and feel normal, and look normal in swim suit, exercise bra or low cut blouse. Other women I have talked to who opted out of reconstruction are not so lucky and do complain to me about how their clothes fit and posture are negatively affected.  I would add that many women aren't prepared for the lack of sensation after mastectomy....sometimes you think you'll get a new breast out of the deal and that simply isn't true. All nerves are severed when they separate the tissue from the skin so you are left with no feeling whatsoever. It does take some getting use to.  All the more reason I am totally glad that I did not give up my other "good " breast!  When I get out of the shower I see myself every single day. I am glad that there is something there rather than nothing.  You don't need those breasts for breast feeding and you won't ever be able to use that breast for sexual stimulation, but you are still a woman and you do still have to feel as much like yourself as you can. This was the next best thing to that for me.  Best of luck to you in this very tough decision.
  • ConnieS
    ConnieS Member Posts: 91
    edited January 2010

    My husband (alias rock/pillar/weeping pillow) is great with whatever decision I make. I want recon because I hate my remaining breast (was already thinking of a reduction/lift for my 50th birthday). I am very large (38G) and 47 years old (gravity is definitely not my friend).

    I had colon cancer removed in 2004 and my BC was found in Feb 2009. I had a MX on my right side in March and started chemo in May. I'm all clear now!  At the time I sent in the BRAC1 & 2 tests, I also had a colon test and found out that I am HNPCC - so I have a 60% chance of having endometrial cancer (and a high risk of all other cancers).

    My BC oncologist sent me to a gynecological oncologist who is recommending a hysterectomy. I already knew I wanted DIEP reconstruction so we asked if it was possible to have it done at the same time. She said yes! She hooked me up with a great PS and I'm scheduled for the grueling day on Feb 16!

    I'm not looking forward to the recovery period after having spent most of last year in recovery mode but I am looking forward to wearing my wedding dress on our second anniversary! And besides - I get a boob job and tummy tuck out of the deal! :)

    Connie

  • joannsend
    joannsend Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2010

    Since many of these postings are over 3 months old, I'm wondering if I could get an update from those of you who had expanders and the success or lack of success as a result.  I have my surgery schedualed in two weeks.   Thanks

  • kayakgirl
    kayakgirl Member Posts: 172
    edited January 2010

    I had immediate reconstruction with gummy implants when I had my bilateral mastectomy in July 2008. My breast surgeon and plastic surgeon worked in tandem  I was very happy with the breast mounds or "FOOBs" when the bandages came off.  I will go in for some minor surgery on the reconstruction to firm up the sides on Feb 5 2010 and then have the nipple area tattoo on. I am very glad that I had immediate reconstruction. I didn't need expanders because I had enough skin to wrap around the implant.My plastic surgeon is excellent. He is Dr. Bill Scarlett located in New Hope, PA.

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