Accountability in a police state.

I am a bit limited (only 30% use of my left, dominant hand) due to 7 reconstructive surgeries thanks to a drunk driver 30 years ago.  So, I seek out easy crafts and have one of those rotary cutters for easy fabric patterns.   My sewing machine is older than dirt, but it IS electric..   only straight and zig zag.   But it does the trick for me.   Portable, but weighs about 75 pounds, so it does not jump around on the table when I get it going.   

I too miss my hubbie.  His ashes are in Arlington National Cemetery and I live near.  Monday  I will go over and take roses, pull the petals off and say "I miss you, I love you" as I pull them off.   I will cry a bit, walk around a bit, probably stop and talk to others, share stories of our loved ones.  

Peace, blessing and LOVE,   Nancy 

Well, I swore I would not get involved in another thread here at bc.org but after hearing through the grapevine about THIS thread, curiosity got the best of me and here I am...........

I have many opinions, but I dont want to type that long, and ya'll dont want to read that long.  LOL  All I can tell is what I witnessed PERSONALLY.

Most of this started back in the political threads.  Both sides would get pretty heated, tempers flared, and posts were reported.  Some posts deserved to be reported, most did not.  One week after Christmas is when all "heck" broke out and MANY posts were "reported" on the republican thread, getting about 10 members either restricted or banned, 2 being permanently banned.

Now it is very easy to assume who the "reporters" were.  No proof of who, just who was most likely.  And the "most likely" would almost have to be from members who did not agree with the republican thread.  It could have been from members who never even participated in the political threads, but the damage was very unfair and unfortunate.

Shirley, you know I love you most in the world, you were my first friend here and I will defend you till I draw my last breath.  But, no, we did NOT "welcome" those who differed with us on the republican thread.  We assumed they were there to cause trouble, and asked them to leave.  You know it, I know it and they know it.  It was RARE that differing opinions were "welcome" on either thread in that forum.  BUT, the reality was, that most of the time the "differing opinions" were posted just to cause trouble.  That is why they were asked to post elsewhere.

With ALL this said, there were so many women and one man from the republican thread that were UNFAIRLY banned and/or restricted as a DIRECT result from missuse of the "Report This Post" button.  Emails to mods went unanswered.

I do not know if others were banned or not, I only know of the ladies from the repub thread.

As a result of this autrocity, several of us got together and decided to make our own breast cancer site and message forum.  It took several months to get it up and running, but it is going really good now.

We have NINE mods who are constantly visible on all the threads to keep things fair and balanced.  We do have rules that others may deem unfair, but as it has been pointed out, it is a public forum, but those of us who own it just have things that we wont compromise on.  Particularly profanity, threatening, spamming, etc.  The word sensors are set to "disguise" profane words such as "dang", "darn", he!! or a$$.  Yes we know what they mean but for some reason, not quite as offensive if not spelled out exactly.  And no we dont get paid and yes mods can see who reports a post.

So far we have about 100 members and so far, not a lot of turmoil.  Yes we have had turmoil, but with nine mods, it gets handled fairly quickly, and I have even seen a few apologies! 

New members have to be approved by the administrator so it keeps spammers out.  There is no restrictions on how many posts per day for new members either.  But as I said, nine mods help keep things in check.

The whole thing is that breast cancer survivors and family and friends of survivors want and need a place to come to for support and information and yes a place to vent.  But the venting still needs to be mindful of others, and most of the time is mindful of others.

Yes ALL are welcome, including any political affiliation and the mods are sworn to uphold fairness on all forums.  Most of us there are republicans and that is, again, because they are who were banned from here.  But Democrats and Libertarians are welcome and free to post also.  And if any turmoil starts up, the ADMINSTRATOR and MODS step in so that members dont have to.

So if you would like to take a look please feel free to do so here:

http://www.breastcanswers.com you will see a link on the side called "Discussion Corner" and it takes you to the message forum.

Come on over as you will see some familiar faces, and many who were unfairly banned here.

I ADORE you too, Moody.  But I have to disagree.  Of course you know I'm OLD and FORGETFUL!  I'm the oldest living person you know that's living. 

Okay, if memories serves me correctly, we DID NOT ask the opposiition not to post on our thread.  We'd discuss things with them.  Then, it's possible (I don't have the entire threads copied..wish I did for proof) that much later we did say something about IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T READ HERE.  I would have to have other ladies who are NOT as OLD AND FORGETFUL as I am to REMIND me.  It's not chemo brain..it's OLD AGE!

Ya think I can find anyone to help me remember. 

"ShirleyHughes wrote:

I ADORE you too, Moody.  But I have to disagree.  Of course you know I'm OLD and FORGETFUL!  I'm the oldest living person you know that's living. "

Shirley, you are the oldest person I know still breathing on your own.....

Anyway, it was me with chemo brain.  I do now remember others coming to post on the repub thread that did not agree with us, but as long as their posts were not instigating a fight, they were welcome.  I think Beesie is right, it was after the elections that things got heated and very ugly.  And it was due to people instigating trouble, not legitimate conversations.  So I guess we are both right.

People want the front of the bus, the back of the church, and the center of attention. 

Anne it is on the left side now under the date that the post was made.........

See LJ ... this post should be reported .. you were stirring up their threads arguing with them about almost all of their alternative choices ... all they wanted was to learn about alt choices not be condemned and as I remember you were a bit condescending.  Granted, many of your posts that I have read have been informative in that forum but you know you could have just created your own thread for those that did appreciate all you do have to offer .. calling them names is against the rules ... 

Some might think that referring to any of the women on this site as "psycho bitches" could be interpreted as a violation of  number 5 under the site's rules of conduct: You agree not to submit content that contains material that is inappropriate, unlawful, threatening, abusive, hateful, profane, defamatory, infringing, obscene, pornographic, or indecent.

It also seems odd that someone with so few posts would use such forceful language about women on this site.

If you're here to ask for help or to help someone else, then please do that.  If not, there are lots of places on the internet where you can find and/or create drama.  One of them might be better suited to your needs right now.  The women here have plenty of drama in their lives already, and don't need your help creating more. 

All I can say is WOW.  I just stumbled on this thread when I clicked on a member's name to see what 'the story was' since I have seen some recent posts that made me WANT to push the "Report this post" button (which I THOUGHT just brought it to the mods attention....didn't know 'AutoPilot' was running in the BG).  My big question is (and where I THINK that many problems arise) is WHY do some people come on a BREAST CANCER board just to cause controversy and drama??? I just don't get it.  It seems so outrageous.  For those peeps, take the drama elsewhere.  BREAST CANCER is a REAL event and needs no EXTRA drama.  I hope someone can find a good solution to this problem.  Best wishes to all!

I know I must be nuts for posting on this but I will anyway..LOL. I have reported 2 posts from the discussion boards in the 2 yrs I have been a member. Both were by the same person on the same day. I did tell the forum I did it. I will probly never report another post. I had many PMs and emails thanking me for reporting but I had far too many hate emails who were ripping me apart for reporting their friend. When I went to post on the forum again , unrelated to that problem...I received several emails telling me I was no longer welcome and to go away. I waited awhile and tried again but the same people said to go away again. So I have chosen to stay away from the forum since I feel that if I ignore them and continue to post..it will start all out war. It's only a handful of ladies but they dominate the board..so I bowed out.

So if anyone starts slamming me here for anything I have written...I probly wont respond LOL. I just wanted to share my experience with you all. I am a nice person and dont take kindly to being bullied. God bless you and keep you safe..Hugs, Mazy

kmmd,

I think it was the person who had the surgery problems, too. And that shocks me, because she and I have been spent a lot of time PMing each other, pre and post op. If that hunch is correct, I ache for all the pain she's going through--it's not just about the surgical outcome. She is truly feeling overwhelmed.

But that doesn't excuse the behavior.

One thing most people don't realize--the surgeons often know what's posted here. Either their staff is lurking on the website, or another patient alerts them to problems. I did not tell Dr. Massey about this incident, but she found out. She was crushed that someone who didn't know her could be so cruel. Lost flaps are like a lost child to the good surgeons.

Anyway, the damage is done. I haven't gotten any hate mail, thank goodness.

Mazy, I had no idea there was such a vicious core of people here. Well, yes, I did realize that during the heat of the political threads here, but I ended up far away from those topics, for that very reason. I wish you could re-enter without fear of hate mail. I guess you could ignore it and delete it, and hope maybe they'll grow weary after a while?

Anne

i find it extraordinarily sad that bc.org does not monitor their boards to the degree that sisters are made to feel unwelcome. there is no room for this in anyone's cancer journey.

The boards would be less contentious if people would PM each other if there was a problem, rather than take it publically and draw others into the problem. I doubt calling someone out publically is going to cause create positive change. I believe that following the adage "you can get more flies with honey than with vinegar" is the way to solicit positive chage. There's a wonderful feature that allows for ignoring posters that get under our skins.  Engaging in public fighting never seems to result in resolution on the boards, it only causes rifts, especially when people takes sides or gang up on each other. There are a lot of great people here, but there are also trouble makers and bullies, as there are in life. I say, who needs extra stress and negativity in their life? Surely not me. If there's a problem, PM the moderators so they know what's going on, that's much better than fighting it out. I'd rather fight the war on cancer, not people with cancer.