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  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies...

    Had a great weekend..hope you all did as well.

    My feet are swollen and need to put the feet up.  Doc asked me if I was having chest pains...and the answer was no...he checked my heart and lungs and said they were clear...asked me to watch the liquiid intake and to stay away from salt.  so far the feet have gone down some.

    I guess all that champagne, beer, margaritas and chips and salsa was not the best things for me this last weekend...LOL

    Had number 3 rads this afternoon...still not sign of heat...other than the weather!!!! LOL

  • shannon56
    shannon56 Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2009

    Jill -- Thank you for the info on genetic testing.  Now I know why I wasn't tested.  That said I did visit my ob/gyn because I read somewhere that if a family member (no degree listed) had breast cancer and your father had prostate cancer your chance of ovarian cancer increased dramatically.  When I had my hysterechtomy back in '03 the ovaries were left in.  So since my aunt had breast cancer and my dad had/has prostate cancer and my mother's mother had cancer of all internal organs I'm scheduled to have an ultrasound and a blood test for CA-125 (a predictor of ovarian cancer when levels rise above normal).  So more minor worries but at least I'm on chemo so if there was any traces or the ovaries where thinking about it the cells are being killed.

    As for my port:  once I knew I'd have tx of herceptin for a year I decided my port and I were going to become best friends.  Normally I don't notice it all but sometimes when I first get to bed I have to find the correct position.  It's the tail of the mouse not the mouse itself that causes a momentary sharp pain like being pricked with a pin.

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2009

    Hi Shannon (er... NEW Shannon) - Now there are two Shannons !

    Ah.. genetics.. such an exact science (OK.. that was being a little sarcastic).   Actually, what you say is true in terms of breast cancer risk increasing when parents have certain cancers.   However, it is not so cut and dry.  The reason why the risk for breast cancer increases with those types of cancer is because both prostate and ovarian cancer are associated with the BRCA gene mutation (I think specifically ovarian is BRCA2).   Since you get one X chromosome from Dad and one X chromosome from Mom, if BOTH are carrying, then your chances go up of carrying.   In other words, you have a double shot instead of one shot of having the mutation.

    The reason it is not so cut and dry is because MOST breast cancer cannot be tied at all to the BRCA gene mutations at all.  It is simply the mutation they have found to date and only applies to about 10-20% of those with breast cancer.   So.... for example, I think I read some stats somewhere that up to 50% of men will have prostate cancer diagnosed after age 70.  None of these are likely tied to the BRCA gene.    

    That said, we are not so different.  My Dad had prostate cancer at 58 and his sister had breast cancer at 43 (same as me) - and yes, they tested me for BRCA.    But, their ages at diagnosis played into the decision to test as much as the fact they had cancer because the BRCA mutation is associated with certain patterns.  For me, it was negative.   But, I am convinced given the "coincidences" on that side of the family that there is another genetic factor in there somewhere- just not discovered yet.   However, I am hopeful the coincidences don't stop there....My aunt is a 23 year survivor of this disease.  Laughing

    So.. there you have it.  I am glad you are getting tested with the CA-125 and they are taking good care of you on this front.   Please let us know what you find out !  

    Jill

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies...

    Hello Deb, Jill, Shannon and the rest who pop in...how is everyone?

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited May 2009

    Hey Crack! Wassup? Not much here, bored stiff..had daughter, newest grandbaby, granddaughter and her boyfriend over for awhile today, bout it...Feeling ok, still getting pains in breast and of course it's still swelled...look at me from one side, DD!!! Look at other side, D. Guess it all depends on who I want to impress as to which way I walk by them......ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Hi Deb...way too funny...You know I never thought of that...one view vs the other....you will be all good once this is all behind you.  Will you need any more aspiration?

    Or will it go away by itself?

    I had RAD #4 today...it was a non event...although there was a guy tech who I never saw before...well he got introduced to my winky....

    29 more to go.....

  • mommy2dex
    mommy2dex Member Posts: 75
    edited May 2009

    Mrs. Cindy,

         Good to hear that the treatments have been so far so good.  What does it actually feel like?  Mom is still feeling icky from the last dose, but she is hanging in there.Off to play with my little one....i will check back later this evening.   Shannon

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies...

    Shannon...your mom will get better as each day passes...its weird but I have forgotten what the SEs from chemo were all about...

    Radiation so far is good.  It really doesn't feel like anything.  It is more of an inconvenience...meaning that I have to stop what I am doing to go at the same exact time each day for rads. 

    I check in with a computer card...then sit and grab a magazine and wait for my name to be called over the intercom.  When called I go to a room where there are dressing rooms and lockers...I grab a gown..take off bra and top...put on gown..place personal items in the locker and lock then take the key with me to a room where there is a large machine and a long bed that had my own mold on it.  I lay down put my arm above my head in the mold and then the techs measure with beamed lights on my markings of tattoos. After measuring with the lights down and the beams on my body...they say "looks good - don't move" and leave the room -close the leaded door and then the maching twirls a few times and then I hear a long beep about 3 to 4 times.  Then the tech comes in and changes the machine to the other side and measures and then again leaves the room and the machine does its thing.  All in all it takes about 10 to 15 minutes.  I had number 5 today...and now 28 to go!!!!

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Helloooooo anyone out there????

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2009

    Hi Cindy -

    Yep.. sure has been quiet in here.  Things have been really busy here.  I had to work from my house yesterday just to get some work done (believe it or not).  I cannot even concentrate at work without someone asking me for something every 5 minutes.   But then still had to take a supplier to dinner last night anyway.   Seems like it never ends.

    Hubby is out of town right now, so between work and kid stuff, have hardly had time for much of anything. 

    I go for my stress test tomorrow early and the cardiologist will read it in real time.  I am thinking all will be OK.   The chest stuff has really lightened up.   If all is OK, I will go back to herceptin next week.  

    Glad radiation is treating you well.   It did not get too dicey for me until about week 4.   So, you got a bit yet before the skin stuff kicks in, and maybe won't be so bad for you if your skin is darker anyway.

    Shannon - Hope your mom is doing better now.   I am just glad she is past this first milestone.

    Well.. back to the grind.  Talk to you all later !

    Jill  

  • mommy2dex
    mommy2dex Member Posts: 75
    edited May 2009

    Good evening to everyone,

         Jill-Sure looking forward to some good news from you tomorrow.  I am thinking of you.

         Cindy-Thanks for the heads up on the first few sessions of rads.  Mabye this will help mom with the transition. I sure do hope that you breeze through this stuff.

    Hope all of the newer ladies chime in again soon.  We are always wondering how you are.  These ladies are the best and can be a great source of support through a difficult time. 

    As for mom.....she is doing a little better today.  Her stomach is still bothering her a bit.  Her counts were all good yesterday and hopefully she will continue to get to feeling better now. 

    Hope you all are having an easy night.           

    Shannon

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2009

    Good Evening Ladies,

     It has been a little quiet, I guess we're all busy with life (thank God!).

     Well, I FINALLY got my results from the SLN Biopsy, and.........negative - yipppee!  Even my surgeon said, "Finally, some good news!".  I'm sort of hoping that, as far as risk factors go, this kind of balances out the triple negative status.  I will be starting Chemo next Tuesday - 4 rounds of A/C then 4 rounds of Taxol.   Although I'm not looking forward to the yucky side effects, I am definitely looking forward to getting treatment started.  It feels like for the past month all I"ve done was test, after test after scan - finally, I can move along to treating this disease.  Any tips or hints from you chemo vets out there, bring 'em on!  I can use all the help I can get! 

    DEB:  Hope the swelling is going down and you are feeling better.

    CRUISE:  I'm glad the rads are going well.  Does this mean it's the home stretch for you?

    SHANNON:  I hope your mom is feeling better now. I think the sick feeling should only last a couple of days, but what do I know, I haven't even had one treatment yet, but that is what they are telling me.

     JILL:  Great time for a stress test - when you're under so much stress at work and home.  Try to relax before you go. 

    Have a great Memorial Day weekend.

    Janet

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited May 2009

    Hi Cruise,

    I have been quiet because my hospital doesn't have wi-fi in patient rooms, so I couldn't use the lap top. Yup, in the hosptal from Monday until Wed evening because of fevers for a week.  I don't think I've ever felst as utterly exhausted as I was Monday - had a temp of 104 on Sat am, and I think that finallt convinced the onc that I was really sick.  Turns out I have either pnemonitis Viral), or early pnemonia.  I was given IV antibiotics to start, and am now on oral antibiotics.  My 3rd of 4 A/C was supposed to be today, but needlesss to say, that has been cancelled until I'm over this.

    Can't even enjoy a beautiful day like today - bedrest!  oh well, need to be positive, could have been in the hospital for 10 days for iv antibiotics...I'm a lucky girl !!!  (Did that sound positive enough?)

    Geri 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Geri, hope you are feeling better now!  What a bummer, to have to be stuck in the hospital on top of everything else.  You're being perfectly positive!!  :)

    Jill, good luck today on the stress test - I'm glad the chest pressure has lessened up for you - and I'll be praying for good results.

    Janet, congrats on the test results - that had to have put your mind at ease.  As far as chemo hints, I'm probably the worst person to ask because I had all kinds of weird, not-often-seen side effects (plus, you are on a different regimine than I was).  Best I can offer is gatoraide is a good substitute for water, when the water either tastes funny or you are tired of it.  I was gulping it down during my last round, because even water wasn't appealing.  Bland foods seem to go down easier too - your tastebuds get all messed up, and things that might have tasted good before chemo (and in between treatments) just don't work - I was a big fan of mac and cheese, saltine crackers, pudding (like vanilla and rice pudding), white rice with chicken gravy, and for some reason, chicken - like Boars Head deli chicken, or chicken w/broccoli and cheese).  Coffee didn't work during treatment either, I could only drink tea.  If you are getting Neulasta shots, a lot of us had good luck taking claritan or another over-the-counter daytime allergy pill - for some reason, it minimized or eliminated bone pain.

    Deb, are you still providing double views?  that is hysterical, but also sorry that you are dealing with such swelling!!  Hope it's doing better now.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Hey ladies,  I've been PM'ing with Jill offline for a week or so now and thought I'd introduce myself...  I'm a big goofball from New Mexico who feels lucky her cancer was caught so early.  40 years old (diagnosed at 39, 2 days before my 40th birthday!), married to a wonderful guy, happily employed, lots of friends and great family...  all in all, very blessed in life, which so far has served me very well with all this cancer stuff.  

    Anyway, I'm browsing this thread because I'm going to start chemo in June sometime, TCH (I keep calling it "THC" mistakenly and my husband is like, "Laura, that's marijuana...").  It's so good to read through everyone's advice so that I know how to get myself organized to deal with this.   I do have one question, though...

    How long did it take each of you to "recover" from your chemo treatments?   Did it take longer to bounce back as you got further into treatment? (so that's two questions)

    I'm trying to plan my work schedule for the summer.  Yeah, I know... the best laid plans and all that.  Still, I need SOMETHING I can control, even if it's illusory!

    Hugs,

    Laura 

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited May 2009

    Chelev, nope it's still swelled.....I had a red mark right under where she put the drain in, and the whole area on the breast (at the end) was red...I showed this to the surgeon, she told me on the breast was due to the dye they injected and to just watch the red mark by where the drain was, if it got any bigger to come back....So it's still swelled, still red in both places although it hasn't gotten any bigger...ya gotta wonder if this is normal, I mean my surgery was April 21st! I would have thought at least it would be normal sized by now.

    On a diff subject, I read where you were taking Estratest too..I had been on it since 1994 when I had the hysto....started out using HS, then went to full strength a couple of years ago...my docs think also that it is what caused the BC.  Shame we can't prove it, I swear I would sue them. No one told me about Breast Cancer risks, only risks of heart attack and stroke. Which during all that time I knew my heart was healthy so I wasn't worried about that....

    Oh well, take care hon!

    Hugs!

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited May 2009

    Welcome Laura!

       Sorry you had to join the club no one wants to join........as far as chemo, well my last one was March 21st...STILL get tired easily..I had 4 rounds of A/c and 12 weekly Taxol. Still don't have the energy I used to have either....I also lost alot of my nails, they're starting to grow back and My head is covered with short hair (think a butch haircut).....The left hand on the side, the baby finger and ring finger are still numb from neuropathy although my onc keeps reassuing me it will go away...but the lack of energy and always being tired is what bums me out most and it's from the chemo. But ya know what? I am cancer free and I can Thank the chemo for that. So just glad to be alive!

    Hugs!

  • kristifromsandiego
    kristifromsandiego Member Posts: 271
    edited May 2009

    Glad to see that nearly every one sounds pretty darn good.  I am done with all treatment and so don't check in here as often as I probably should.  This site saved my life back when I was in the heat of the battle.  Now just learning to live with Tamoxifen and my new life.  Radiation is a drag at the end because of the skin stuff....but so much easier than chemo I know you all will make it.  Keep your spirits up!!!  Kristi

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Deb, hi!  Sorry to hear you are still having the swelling - it really doesn't make sense since it was from April 21, unless it is just taking that long for the tissues to repair themselves. Yeesh!!

    I agree with you on the estratest.  Not one mention EVER that there might be a chance for breast cancer - I heard the blood clot concerns but nothing about bc or possible estrogen issues, especially since I've had estrogen problems since 1985 or so - couldn't take the pill, had severe endometriosis, couldn't go on any hrt for a long time because every time I did, I would get some sort of reaction - breast cyst, ovarian cysts, recurrance of the endo, etc.  I didn't even worry about it, because I figured, why should I be concerned, I didn't have ovaries anymore, what problems could I have?  Uh huh!!

    Hang in there - and hope you have a great weekend, with less swelling!

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2009

    Hello everyone !

    Got lots to say tonight.   First.. happy Memorial Day week-end to everyone !

    Next... in regard to my stress test..... well, good news and strange news.  The good news is that I am good to go in terms of re-starting herceptin !  The cardiologist says my heart looks great - pictures look fine, ventricles working like they should, valves look great, etc.  The strange news is that while the "pictures look fine", the eco had some "abnormalities" (he is calling it "equivocal").   Says they see these types of things in "women" a lot.  I asked him if it could be hormonally related.  He says (and I quote)... "could be, we don't know".   Hmmm... says something about the state of women's cardiac care ?    Bottom line for me, however, is that I am cleared to start treatment again.   I go to the GI doc next week to check out that angle.  Sigh.. 

    The other part is that I am feeling a little smug, because evidently, I soundly beat the average in terms of lasting on the treadmill for a woman my age.   And honestly, I could have gone on longer (was not such a big deal) - they stopped me about a minute after reaching my target heart rate.   I thought... not too bad for a woman who has been cut up, poisoned and zapped.    I have always been somewhat athletic.  I guess that is paying off now. 

    Anyway, got another story for you all tonight... I was in a meeting today with the CEO of another company.  It was a pretty intense part of the meeting when my phone goes off (hubby is out of town).  It was my daughter.  I say, "I am in a meeting right now", to which she says "Mom.. it's urgent.. and absolute emergency".  I am thinking something really bad has happened.  I ask what is wrong to which my (teen age) daughter replies, "The cat dragged in a chipmunk into the house.  It is dead in the living room. There are guts all over the place".     Now.. my daughter is hysterical on the phone and talking loud.  My business cohorts hear all of this and are laughing so hard they are practically crying.  I tell her that I can't exactly take care of the chipmunk from work and to put a towel over it or something.  My daughter replies she is not going near it.   Anyway, I finally get off the phone at which time the CEO says... "You made my day.  I am glad I am not the only Mom who gets those types of calls".  Turns out this CEO also has a 15 year old daughter.    I leave work after the meeting, get the chipmunk out of the living room, and clean the carpet. For the record, there were not "guts all over the place".  The cat is exceedingly proud of himself.   Crisis averted. 

    Finally, welcome to Laura to the thread !   Like she said, we have been talking for about a week or so as our cases are eerily similar.   The part I can vouch for is the "big goofball" part.   Anyway, as we have been talking already, I will let some of the other ladies weigh in as to their chemo experiences.  

    Janet - Wonderful news on the Biopsy. 

    Geri - Damn lady.. when you do something, you do it right, don't you?  I really hope you are doing better tonight.

    Kristi - Great to see you here, gal !  I will answer your PM shortly.  Nice to hear from you.

    Have a great Friday all !

    Jill

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Okay...Ladies...it was so quiet here and now I know why....MY GOSH...ladies...we can't have anymore crisis or chipmonks....I won't ask where everyone is at anymore...GOLLLYYYEEE

    Geri...WTF....you have been through the ringer...So sorry you have been in the hospital...a 104 fever is not something to mess with.  Stay rested and if we don't hear from you...we know you are healing and taking some much needed rest....PLEASE TAKE CARE.....

    Jill...LMAOROTFL......you of all ladies...would have something like that happen during an important meeting.  Our teens do have some drama ...don't they?  So funny...  I am so glad your heart is good and you are able to continue treatment.  You are like me...not sure if I like the term abnormalities...so exactly what does that mean.  

    Deb...we haven't heard from you...and now you are telling us that its still red and going on...but sounds like its not getting worse...a good thing.  Just keep an eye on it and go to your doc if it doesn't clear up soon.  This has gone on too long for you.

    Janet...so good to hear you have great results from you biopsy....what a load off your shoulders...

    Kaidog...welcome...there are many great ladies who can offer you their experiences...although you will find that everyone has some differences with side effects.  Once you find out what type of chemo you are getting there are different threads that speak specifically to the type of treatment.  For example...I was on Cytoxan and Taxotera or CT for short and there is a thread for that type of treatment and the ladies there had similar SEs and was able to share so we knew what to expect.

    As for your question on how soon we recovered...from chemo treatments...I can speak for myself and say that I am still in recovery mode.  I am still fatigued and have no energy and some of it may be due to the radiation therapy.  As for hair or no hair...I have started getting little gray fuzzies on my head and today is exactly one month from my last chemo session. You mentioned that you are trying to schedule around your work...I am 57 years old and I went out on disability...the job I have is very stressful and commuted an hour each way to work.  There was no option for me to work PT or reduced hours.  I am glad that I chose to go out on short term disability...although Jill knows its not going to be fun for me...going back to work once radiation treatment is over.  

    As chelev mentioned...stock up on MAC n CHEESE...it was my favorite...and add cranberry juice to anything and it will taste better.  While on chemo...drink lots of fluids and eat protein...that will help you get through it and it out of your system.  GOOD LUCK...and we want to hear how you are doing.

    Well ladies..have a wonderful Memorial weekend...3 days of no RADs...YEAH....

    My DH and I are going to San Francisco to spend the night on Sunday.  We are meeting our friends who all went on the Panama Canal cruise (the one we had to cancel when I got diagnosed).  It will be fun to see our friends and hear what we missed on this cruise.....One couple lives in Ruidoso New Mexico, another from New Orleans and another is from Grove City Pennsylvania.  Can't wait to share a glass of champagne with all of them...

    My DH and I love to cruise....hence the name CRUISE4LIFE...and I picked that name out years ago on a "Cruise Critic" thread that I belong to...where we chat about cruises...similar to this one.

    Again...have a great Memorial Day Weekend....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Jill - thanks for sharing that story - I literally choked on my coffee as I was reading it!  That is so funny!!  I can relate - my daughter was about 12 or 13 at the time, years ago, when I was in the middle of a presentation for the company I was working for at the time.  This was to our entire management network, so about 150 people in the convention hall.  My cell phone, which is on the podium and which I forgot to put on silence, is ringing.  I try to ignore it and keep talking about the marketing program I put together for them.  Finally, someone says, "Go ahead, answer it!", so I sheepishly run over and pick it up.  It's my daughter, home for the afternoon, taking a shower because she had PE class.  She's shrieking on the phone to me that there is a LIZARD in the shower and she doesn't know what to do.  We live in Florida, these lizards are small, but to her, it was the size of a dragon.  I had a cordless mike pinned to my blouse, so of course, everyone can hear her.  They are all laughing as she's freaking out on the phone.  I told her to just wait until her father got home to get rid of it, but she's telling me, "Mom, I can't go back in and turn the shower off."  She just ran out of the bathroom with the water running.  We are on city water and pay for every drop.  I'm trying to reason with her to get her to turn the water off, I can't run back there, I'm in St. Louis.  It was a very trying phone call, coaxing her back into the bathroom to turn off the shower, regain my composure, quiet the room, because everyone is laughing and restart the program. Jill, your daughter's call just brought all of that back - and I'm laughing again now.  Thank you!!

    And, so so glad your heart tests were normal!!!  Good luck with the GI testing - hope all is negative there, or if not, at least that solves the problems of the chest pains.

    Geri - hope you are feeling better!!

    Cindy - have a great weekend away!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Jill, I am crying with laughter at your daughter's chipmunk episode.  I bet it made your audience's day.   Chelev, same thing.  That is hysterical.  I'll have to send you both the link to an episode of the radio show "This American Life" that tells the bizarre tale of a fireman, a chipmunk, and a very expensive couch.  When my husband and I heard it on the radio, we literally had to pull over the car because we were laughing so hard.   

    Ladies, THANK YOU.... This weekend I am going to mine this thread for information about dealing with chemo and make my shopping list.  Lemme tell ya, I LOVE MAC AND CHEESE.  Any excuse to eat it...  I do homemade with gruyere and fontina and sharp cheddar and it rocks.  mmmm... might have to make some tonight...

    BTW, Jill, I think that hormones DO have an impact on heart health.  I hope your GI thing gets resolved... ICK, I HATE GI problems. I'll be thinking of you...

    Laura 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=115

    It's a story called "Squirrel Cop."  Okay, it's a police officer, not a fireman; but fire does figure into the story.  I'll leave it at that. 

    I realize that this is totally off topic, except that it's hysterically funny and laughter is good for you... 

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited May 2009

    I am slowly making my way back to the land of the living.  I thought I was tired from chemo - add pneumonitis, and wham!  Short of breath with minor exertion - like going up the steps.  Good news - no fevers, and I am starting to feel a little better.  Thanks for all the caring thoughts - it really does help.

    I see the onc on Tuesday to talk about the next treatment (3rd of 4 A/C which would have been 2 days ago).  I am a little nervous about the next treatment - nervous he'll tell me I can't have it yet because I'm still short of breath, and I SOOO want this to be over with, but also nervous that he'll tell me I can have it next week - and what if I get worse afterwards?  Of course, the internet searches don't help - have found sites that link adriamycin with pneumonitis which can then cause permanent lung scaring - guess I have no choice but to wait to talk with onc.

    Kaidog-welcome - as you can see, you have joined a very caring group of ladies who are here for each other.

    Jill - sounds like good news for your heart.  Will keep fingers and toes crossed for the same for GI

    CHELEV and CRUISE - thanks for the support

    Kathy - hope we get to talk today

    For everyone - a great holiday weekend

    Geri

  • Janet22664
    Janet22664 Member Posts: 155
    edited May 2009

    Hello Ladies,

    Cruise:  Sounds like you have a fun weekend.  Every so often when you write something about the weather or what you are doing, I REALLY want to get to California!  Sounds fabulous!

    Kaidog:  I too am going to go chemo shopping this weekend.  I was told that I could have diarrhea or constipation, plus a litany of other side effects.  I'm sure whatever I get, I still need more, but I guess what DH is for! 

    Jill:  Your story was too funny.  Isn't life with kids just so dog gone fun!  It's what keeps us going (and laughing)!

    Geri:  So glad that you are feeling better.  I know what you mean about the Internet searches.  I have found that if I spend too much time "surfing" I can become depressed.  I have to find a balance between "informed" and "Obsessive" when it comes to information.  I will be starting my A/C treatments on Tuesday, I can't wait to get it started so that I can get it finished, but at the same time, not looking forward to the SE. 

    Chelev:  I know exactly the lizards you mean.  My mom has a place in Stuart, Florida and those little guys are all over the place. 

    Deb:  When you you lost your nail, did you lose them from the beds?  I can't even imagine!   I mean it makes sense because the drugs attack all rapidly growing cells, but honestly, does it have to take everything from our heads to our toenails!  YUCK! 

     Did everyone on A/C have that happen? 

    Well, I'm off to Target to do my shopping!  Goodbye friends,

    Janet

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited May 2009

    Hi Gals

      Sorry ain't been around alot...just in a pithy mood.....getting awful tired of not having energy and always being tired...can't get things back to where it was for some reason...

      Janet, kinda weird how mine did, they humped up, and they didn't lift off, they sort of just broke off really short and left these humped up ugly looking things...the toenails basically fell off but the fingernails did the above. Oh and mine did this on the Taxol, not the A/C.

      Jill, I'm not laughing at ya but laughing with you on that story..Geesh kids are embarassing...my eldest daughter who has yet to grow up at 33, got pulled over for a DUI at like 2am...the cop being friends with my baby brother and knowing it was his niece, called him at 2am in the morning to come get her........LOL, I heard about that one.

      Crack, yup it is going on too long which is why I opted out of a Clinical Trial my onc wanted me to be on...something bout bone density while I was on Arimidex and it would also be tested to see if it could prevent bone mets.  But it would have required to go to the onc's once a month and have an IV, said NO I want this over with, I don't want to drag it out forever.

       Chelev, if we could only turn back time, wonder if it would have made any difference?

    Hugs to all

    Deb

      

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Janet...come on and visit us....as I mentioned we have friends who live in Grove City PA...not sure how far from you they are...and they love it here too.  They also have a place in New Mexico...SNOW BIRDS....is what they are called.  LOL

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Deb, I honestly have thought about that over and over.  All the what-ifs have been a constant replay, especially when I'm feeling down.  10 years ago, when I had a cyst removed, and on the ultrasound was a tiny, tiny speck (in the same breast), that the bs pointed out, but didn't think it amounted to much - was that the cancer just forming?  Nothing ever showed up in mammograms, which I have had religiously every year.  What if I didn't take the estratest.  Would that have made any difference?  If I had not grown up on processed foods.  Did that do it?  Stress?  I've had some incredibly stressful times which has manifested itself in my body in different ways (acid reflux, irregular heartbeat, hives) - did that contribute?  The severe endometriosis I struggled with most of my early adult life - did somehow my body producing too much estrogen kick it into gear?  How many years did it take to form?  I wish I knew so I could know what not to do in the future (well, I won't be taking any more estratest, that's for sure!). 

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited May 2009

    Ladies !

    Good morning to you all.   OK... I am in quasi-philosophical mode this morning brought on by the this conversation between chelev and Deb.   So...you have fair warning.  Move on to the next post if you don't want to be exposed to my ramblings on this topic.   I need to assemble a thought. 

    I have been on this board a long time and have seen a lot of the coulda, woulda, shoulda... did I bring this on myself kind of thing.   OR... what on earth singled me out to get this nasty disease?  Did I tempt fate?  Did I piss off a greater entity ?  What combination of circumstances assembled such that I ended up with this thing ?

    Well... the first thing I think about when I read this line of thinking is that there is a tinge of "I did something to DESERVE this" in some of the posts I see.   And I have to admit, that line of thinking makes me see red a bit.  No one DESERVES this.  Why must we blame ourselves?  After all, we are the victims - and why blame the victim.   We did not bring this upon ourselves and I have to believe that. 

    The second thing I always think is that... well, hell.. I did so much crazy ass stuff to my body in my late teens and early twenties, it is a wonder I am not dead yet anyway.  So... already did my bit on tempting fate.   Maybe it has caught up, maybe it hasn't.  But, either way, I can't undo what was done.   So, why agonize over it now as there is not one thing I can do about it.   It was fun while it lasted.  :-)  

    That said, I do believe that things happen for a reason - whether they be genetic, enviornmental, or destiny brought on by greater circumstances.   Who is to say what is the bigger plan?   What I do know is that for better or for worse, my living through this is intricately woven into who I am now.   I feel different - and not all of it is bad.  I feel wiser, stronger, and more at peace with who I am and what I can do to make a difference in my life and those of others.   Was that part of the plan ?   Who knows.  But, it is an outcome.  So.. at this point I choose to look forward knowing that we acquired strength from the past - and even from this bumpy journey that none of asked to be on. 

    That is my two cents on that.

    Jill

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