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  • LynnVA
    LynnVA Member Posts: 174
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    Can I jump on at this last min? Have my planning today and will start rads next Tues May 27 .  Had BLM April 2.  Anyone one the board with tissue expanders in while doing rads?   I would love some feedback.  I'm scared but ready to get this show on the road. Thanks.

    Lisa

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Good morning, everyone.  Had tx 6 yesterday.  Also met with the nurse, who took my weight (well, sigh . . . it's not down, but hey, it's not up.  It's not where I want it to be, but I can work on that!)  My bloodwork is normal.  Prior to treatment, they took about 4 x-rays, they said not to check progress, but to check positioning to make sure they are still in the right area.  After that, I met with my rads onc who examined my breast and surrounding area and said I was doing fine.  He'll check my skin each week to follow up on anything and hopefully nip it in the bud before it gets bad.

    My hair situation is . .  .it seems to have stopped growing.  I was excited last week, it seemed like I was having good growth of gray hairs, but hair nonetheless, and this week, not much change.  I'm getting impatient, it's 5 weeks tomorrow and I've seen other women with gorgeous growth.  I wonder if it is true that it takes 13 weeks for the taxotere to stop causing side effects?  That stinks!!!

    Cindy, my port wound is still achy too - the scar is slowly healing - I've been putting vitamin E oil on twice a day, but do you have a bruisey-still a little swollen area where the port actually sat?  You can see the outline of my port, or rather, where it was, and a nice bruise, plus a little swelling.  It's better than it was last week, but still gets achy if I do too much with that arm.

    Head situation is slowly clearing up - I seem some improvement, and once I can stop wearing wigs this week, today is the last day of our big meetings, then I can let it air out with scarves.  I only am working tomorrow, and then am off from Friday through next week (whew!), so I can let it breathe.

    Hope everyone is doing okay!

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited May 2009

    Hey all,

    I've got 1/4" to 3/4" hair on my head -- lots of shiney spots still -- but I sure wish my lashes and brows would make an appearance.

    Bold, as for living for the moment and wishing we could finally return to our lives, I 'm with you girl! I've seen it called a "new normal" and I'm anxious to get there but I don't want to waste a second of time just wishing and hoping for a countdown to end. 16 weeks for taxotere to leave does sound like an endurance test but it's nothing compared to what we've been through so far.

    As for TEs and reconstruction, my PS assured me that the scar tissue can be fixed. She didn't want me doing the exchange first.  Since she's the one who has to work with the area, and she knows her expertise, I let her make the decision.  

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited May 2009

    Ivorymom: You have such a wonderful prognosis. I do not know the exact % but I would think that you have the same % as any woman has to get cancer. 1 in 8. I am stage 2a so I have a 20% chance of recurrence. 2 in 10. I hate that. But I think I will look at it as 80% chance of being cured. I feel very fortunate for Herceptin. It is amazing how different the choices we make are. I never even entertained getting a mastectomy. I did not get a port. I have juicy veins. I had a 3.5cm tumor which is to damn big. Thanks for letting me talk about it. I rarely do. If it was not for the hair loss I think we could move on a lot quicker. I really hate loosing my signature waist length hair!! Its hard to feel sexy. But if it was'nt for the chemo I probably would not be feeling anything! I presented with a low grade fever and extreme fatigue that could not be identified for 4 months. Both my BS and Onc. said that it was not the cancer. Yet after surgery it went away! Now they admit that it was my immune system fighting the cancer. Is that amazing or what. I was playing the guitar when I found the dreaded lump. It was very sore. BYE BYE LUMP HELLO HEALTH!

    I have my sims tomorrow. I have to make a decision on the micro met. My rad onc.wants to radiate my sub-clavical and ancillary nodes as a precaution. I am just kind of nervous as the thyroid is very close to the line of fire. Is anyone getting zapped in these nodes? Are there any SE to that???? I am confused as my onc. should be having a conversation with me prior to sims. I guess a path will be made clear to me tomorrow.

    LynnV: Looks like we are on the same schedule. There are a few of us that are late may gals. We are lucky to have our sisters blazing the path for us.

    How come you are not allowed to put a cool pack on you breast to ease the burning? Just curious.

  • Puppers
    Puppers Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2009

    No radiation today - the machines are down! Surprised  So a "free" day - and then back tomorrow for #12!

    KT57 - what a neat idea giving away a bracelet each day of treatment!

    LynnVA - welcome to the May group!

    Have a better day today everyone - God bless you all in a special way today!!! Laughing

  • pringles1
    pringles1 Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2009

    hi everyone!

    Welcome newbies!!

    Had my blocking done, and didnt get anymore tattoos!1 So will start my Rads tomorrow and if all goes well will have the last one July 10th.. and keeping my fingers crossed on my TE...

    Is anyone taking any extra vitamins or anything during rads or were you told not to?.. I was thinking on trying some antioxidents...Just a though... 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Hi, pringles!  Good luck starting rads tomorrow!

    I specifically asked my rad onc about antioxidants, and he said not to take them during rads because they speed up healthy cell renewal and growth, and the goal during rads is to slow the cells down so they can get any cancer cells and kill them.  Basically, stay away from lots of C and E vitamins.  He said a regular multivitamin is fine, as long as it isn't extra C, and the one I am taking for hair / nails with biotin is fine.  I had the same thought -oooh, done with chemo, let's build up the immune system, but not yet!

  • Puppers
    Puppers Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2009

    thanks for the input on vitamins chelev - I never thought about that....anyone know why xrays are taken each week during radiation?  What are they looking for?   just wondering...

  • barbiedahl
    barbiedahl Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2009

    Dear Ivorymom-I had a friend tell me I'd never be the same again, forget that! I am who I am. I seem to flow as a person, I am certainly not the person I was twenty years ago, or last year for that matter. But I will not let anything have a negative effect on my life. The past few months have not been easy, but I refuse to be negative or let that energy in. Maybe my cancer will come back, I certainly didn't plan on having it in the first place. All I can do is live today to the fullest, take care of myself physically, emotionally and spiritually and then it's all out of my hands. If I'm not the same person I was after this it is only because I've grown a little more, not because I have  fear. I have a happy life and certainly didn't need BC to make me appreciate anything (okay maybe my eyebrows) you are so right when you say you're going to live the best life you can, I think that is what it's all about. I will adopt your attitude about looking forward to each treatment because it means I'm closer to the end, and the end is very near!

    I appreciate all the wisdom I find to ponder on this thread, thank you all!

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited May 2009

    Wow, thank you, barbiedahl -- your wise words will hold me up all day! 

    Puppers -- I had the same question about the weekly xrays.  When I asked the tech about it this morning, she said they're just checking to make sure everything is still lined up right.  It sounds more like a quality-check sort of thing, though I still don't really get what would shift, unless you broke a rib or something??  Either way, though, it doesn't sound like they're looking for anything in particular -- just checking the anatomical alignment of where they're zapping us.

    Today was zap #11 for me -- 1/3 of the way through!  Tired, mildly sore, but overall OK so far.

    Welcome to the new folks, and thanks to all!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Puppers - they told me yesterday it is not to check for results or anything, it is to make sure we are properly positioned.  I think they overlay them with the original xrays taken during the first session, to make sure they are zapping the right place.

  • Puppers
    Puppers Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2009
  • ajlive
    ajlive Member Posts: 134
    edited May 2009

    Hi everyone.  I went today to have my markings redone and to my suprise my first radiation treatment.  I was ready to get out of there after having to stay in one position for so long while they were remarking and doing x-rays.  Did everyone start using aloe vera right away or did you wait till you started turning pink?  They tech said I probably wouldn't need it for a couple of weeks.  To me that sounds to long.  Isn't the aloe vera supose to help from burning?

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited May 2009

    ajlive--That is what I have heard -that the aloe helps prevent as well as heal. 

    How is everyone?  I had my simulation today and the doc assured me I would be okay.  I felt better talking to him today......Ready to start already can't wait to be done!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    ajlive - I started using aloe immediately.  I don't know if it's helping or if I am just tolerating treatments well - 7 down, 19 to go, but I am determined to keep it moist and undamaged. 

    I will get measured for my boosts next Friday.  The onc nurse told me if I am having any skin issues, which they are checking for daily, then they will alternate treatments with the boost treatments, which targets only the scar tissue, to help anything heal up.

    Feel a little swollen today, they said it is very normal around this time frame.  Took a couple of Advil and am not letting it bother me - at least it's a very tolerable se!

  • americanpinay
    americanpinay Member Posts: 338
    edited May 2009

    hi ladies... 

    hope everyone is doing well...zap 11 of 33 today... still good...started using aloe vera on the 4th treatment although rad tech and nurse both say that I probably don't need it until after first two weeks...rad tech took pictures (x-rays?) today but film is placed under the treatment table this time as opposed to the side the last time...he said pictures are needed to make sure they don't need to make adjustments...

     take care...

  • idaho
    idaho Member Posts: 1,187
    edited May 2009

    Last Booster today!!!!!!Yippee Skippee!!! I hope everyone tolerates rads as well as I did.  My skin is kind of black in places and pealing, but it doesn't hurt.  What does hurt is my sentinal node biopsy scar.  It is pretty red and sore- but just like having a sunburn.  It seemed to me that after week 3 I didn't feel as tired....and they do xrays every week because your breast usually either swells or "deflates" during rads and that way they can adjust the machine so it is hitting the exact same spot.  I wish you all well and no offense- but I hope I don't have to ever be on this thread again.  Good luck and happy "baking"!  Tami

  • Debonthelake
    Debonthelake Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2009

    Hi all,

    Bold I'm 23 days post chemo and still no signs of hair.  My taste buds however are coming along nicely.  You are so right.  With my triple neg status my recurrence rate is 20% but, like you I try to concentrate on the 80% chance of a cure

    Barbie  Thanks for the inspirational post.  That's a great way to look at the whole thing.  l won't go down without a fight.  I'll live my life the best that I can for as long as a can.

    I'm still waiting for my "planning" to be complete.  They say sometime early next week.  I'm not real good at this waiting thing and especially when they don't give definite dates.

  • Cruise4life
    Cruise4life Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2009

    Evening Ladies...

    Welcome LynnVA

    Chelev...I am not bruised where my port was..although my skin was stretched in that area so when he stitched me up...there is excess..and its bumpy.  I have been putting neospirn and vitamin e on it regularly.

    The hair is slow growing...still no shaving of legs...or toes  LOL 

    I was told not to take any vitamins while doing rads...the only thing they offered was Ensure and they have bottles of them on display.

    Good luck Pringles....

    #6 for me tomorrow morning....Kiss

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited May 2009

    Yes, I've been staying away from antioxidant supplements too -- but it's definitely okay to eat as many healthy fruits and vegetables as you want.

    I'm 1/3 of the way done as of today; 11/33 rads! Woo hoo! So far so good. A little soreness from the tightening around the TE  but it's not bad at all. Definitely easier than chemo.

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited May 2009

    Good Morning My rad sisters: I am going to SIMS this morning. Finally this show is going on the road. Literally and figuratively. I will hear the results of the tumor board about whether to radiate the subclavical and axillary nodes. GULP!!!!!!!  I am just curious if there is any damage to the thyroid gland. I guess I will find out in a few hours. I can not believe that I am going to have tattoos today. I know a lot of you have been through this already and thinking no big deal. I hope your right.

    Congrats to idaho. Good job to all for putting more zaps behind you. As for me one step closer.

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited May 2009

    Bold, I was told that I could wind up hypothyroid due to the gland absorbing some of the radiation scatter from the room. My radiation oncologist told me to always face away from the area being treated (in my case turn my head to my right side).  

  • FACECRAFTER
    FACECRAFTER Member Posts: 1,092
    edited May 2009

    Hey Bold- I go tomorrow to make sure my planning is right.  I start on Tuesday (because of the holiday)  so we're right together.  I am gong to have my subclavian area  done as well.  BTW, I have no thyroid (was taken out april of last year).  And what they call a tattoo is just as ivorymom said..a drop of ink and a pin prick  - nothing to worry about.  Good luck, rads sister.

  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited May 2009

    i am having tomotherapy radiation, and a CT scan is done every day prior to radiation, to make sure everything is lined up correctly. the radiation in the CT scan is factored into the overall radiation dosage, so it's not extra radiation. there are no markings done on the skin before treatment starts (except for the initial 3 tattoos) because of the daily CT scans. i get 4.5 minutes of radiation, and i'm in and out of there in less than 15 minutes once i get to the hospital. i will have boosts at the end of treatment. 

    re: recurrence rate with triple negative cancer

    deb on the lake - i'm TN, had Stage 1 IDC cancer with no node involvement, and onc told me that with my bilateral mastectomy, the chemo, and radiation, my chances of recurrence will be 4%, even taking into account the fact that my cancer was Grade 3. so how did you come up with the 20% recurrence rate for yourself? is that the statistic before treatment? 

    i'm using aquaphor every day after radiation. i've only had 3 treatments, no side effects yet.

  • PrincessKauai59
    PrincessKauai59 Member Posts: 288
    edited May 2009

    Yay Texas!  You're about a week ahead of me so it's great to hear your progress.  Cruise, I think I'm on the same schedule as you, my #6 will happen this morning.

    I was feeling very emotional yesterday morning and it was kind of like a sneeze that wouldn't come because I wanted to cry but the emotional dam wasn't letting out the tears.  My Rad tech noticed and kept asking, "are you OK?" "you seem different today?"  I told her I was just feeling very emotional.  Fortunately, I had an appointment with my therapist yesterday too so I had a safe space to talk it out some more.  Then back to my busy life with afternoon class for son and beloved in-laws in from out-of-town last night.  My SIL is a bc survivor and she wore her

  • PrincessKauai59
    PrincessKauai59 Member Posts: 288
    edited May 2009

    Yay Texas!  You're about a week ahead of me so it's great to hear your progress.  Cruise, I think I'm on the same schedule as you, my #6 will happen this morning.

    I was feeling very emotional yesterday morning and it was kind of like a sneeze that wouldn't come because I wanted to cry but the emotional dam wasn't letting out the tears.  My Rad tech noticed and kept asking, "are you OK?" "you seem different today?"  I told her I was just feeling very emotional.  Fortunately, I had an appointment with my therapist yesterday too so I had a safe space to talk it out some more.  Then back to my busy life with afternoon class for son and beloved in-laws in from Boston last night.  My SIL is a bc survivor and she wore her, "Viva La Cure" t-shirt to dinner.  Very sweet.  Still need to find the time to cry, maybe tonight.  

    Was able to meet with Rad Onc yesterday, my total dose will be 50 gray to most areas with a total dose of 60 gray (Gy) to high risk areas.  Apparently a gray is a measure of absorbed radiation dose and it is equal to about 100 rads. He showed me the very cool high-tech 3-d pictures that they use for dose planning and estimation of dose to collateral tissues (e.g., lung, heart).  After this morning, I'll be #6 treatments done and #24 to go, including five boosts to the high risk areas.  I have bolus tx every other day.   Cool

     p.s., Yesterday I was so sleepy I almost fell asleep during the day.   Sleepiness is not something that I think of as fatigue, but my husband begged to differ with me.  Is this the kind of "fatigue" we get with rads?

  • Puppers
    Puppers Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2009

    Good morning from cool Northern CA! 

    PrincessKauai59 - the fatigue hits me just now and then, some afternoons I am totally worn out, but then other days (like yesterday) I don't notice it all - I actually mopped the kitchen and bathroom floors yesterday!  I have had a few days of being very sleepy too, so that sounds normal to me.

    I've changed my profile picture to show me and my dear 14-year old daughter, who I pray never, ever has to deal with any kind of cancer, especially not two different kinds over the years like I have (thyroid and breast)....here's to a future FREE of cancer for our children!

    12 rads down, 21 to go...Bless you all today my sisters... 

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited May 2009

    My radiation oncologist described the fatigue as similar to how you'd feel if you spent the day in the sun. I'm not sure if that's accurate. The few times I've felt it, I completely zonked out for a few hours.

    I think I'd rather be fatigued from a day on the beach, with a cool drink in my hand. Oh well!

  • pringles1
    pringles1 Member Posts: 59
    edited May 2009

    Hi everyone!!

     LynnVA - Welocme

    chelev- will start checking out the antioxidents before radiation  ends. so I can start immediatley afterwards

    ajlive- had my first Rad today- and immediatley applied aloe vera before I left the hospital. I had given myself a nice little ice burn after my  biopsy (it took three weeks for it to heal) I am keeping my figers crossed that I have no problems..

    Idaho- You finished congratulations!!

    cruise4live-  It was really quicker than I thought it would be..

    Woo Hoo! 1 down 34 more to go! 

  • AlohaGirl
    AlohaGirl Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2009

    1 down, 24 to go!  Quick and easy today ... hope it stays that way.

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