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  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    Absolutely! We will all hook up soon--we just have to!

    Harley, honey, how did your followup appts go?

  • yellowtownhouse
    yellowtownhouse Member Posts: 142
    edited May 2009

    Hey All,

    Just a quick note to lillith and Deann...so sorry to hear that your Mom and Mother-in-law are having such problems.  Praying for both and of course your families. 

    Yes ladies, there will come a time when we will all get an opportunity to look in each other's eyes and put our arms around the wonderful sisters that emotionally carried each of us on our darkest days.  In the mean time we keep on doing just what we have been for almost 2 years now.......being there for each other. 

    I have a question for you all.  Everyone seems to have a different take on this, so what is the correct answer?  When you all say NED (no evidence of disease)  or cancer free, from what point or date are you talking?  Do you mean from your original diagnosis date or when you actually completed all active treatment (chemo/surgery/rads)? 

    Best to all,

    June

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  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    June, I think the consensus on the NED date is the surgery date.

    Just got a call from one of my friends whose best friend had a biopsy for a potential second primary (her first was 7 years ago) right after I'd had my recent biopsy. Her biopsy had come back negative, and no one questioned it until a couple of weeks ago when some radiologist decided the lump really should be excised, and lo and behold, it was malignant. Yowsers. Makes me wonder about my benign biopsy, especially since I could feel something there. I just made a 2 year followup appointment with my surgeon for July, so I'll bring it up with her then. But it certainly was providential that my friend's friend had an astute radiologist reviewing her films.

  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited May 2009

    Thanks everyone for your virtual hugs! 

    June, I agree with Nash's comment that it would be from surgery date.That's what I typically hear.

    Yikes, Nash. That's a mite scary sounding about the negative biopsy being positive. I've got my first follow-up since January coming up. Each one I get through will make me breathe that much easier, but I guess we must always be vigilant. 

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2009

    Yeah - my vote would be "after surgery". It does say: "no EVIDENCE of disease", and (typically) after surgery that's where you are. Chemo, rads etc are all "just-in-case ers". You might have a stray cancer cell somewhere, but there is no EVIDENCE of it at that point. I wonder if Angie would have another take on it. I think she had rads or chemo FIRST to shrink the tumor...then I don't know what happened. Angie?

     Boy, I hear stories like Nash's and I'm unnerved. A good reminder  (in our vigilance) to be assertive if you really think something's up.  There are just too many strange stories like that going around.

    Nash, has that spot changed at all? Do you still feel it? (Rats. I was just kinda relaxing, and gettin into the groove that maybe we don't need to worry so much anymore.)

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    Well, to be perfectly honest, I haven't bothered poking in the biopsy spot b/c 1) it still is sore and 2) they placed that stupid clip in it, so I figure I'd just be feeling the clip. I was OK with waiting until the next MRI in January to see if there was any change. I'll see what the surgeon says, as she tends to be pretty aggressive.

    Anyhow, in my friend's friend's case, her tumor was seen on mammo and looked highly suspicious, and I'd been really surprised by her negative biopsy and had wondered in the back of my mind if she shouldn't have it excised. She'd also gone off of Tamoxifen after a year or so. In my case, the spot that showed on MRI was "indeterminate" in nature, and I figure since that MRI was being done on a different machine than the previous ones, and I was on Tamoxifen which might cause weirdnesses in the tissue, it was likely to be a false positive imaging. The only part that bothers me is that I could feel a small hard spot, like I told you guys, and I don't know why normal tissue would feel that way. But I'll have the surgeon poke at it in July--she's got magic fingers, and I think if she thinks it's OK, it probably is.

  • yellowtownhouse
    yellowtownhouse Member Posts: 142
    edited May 2009

    Thanks ladies for the replys.  I have heard varying opinions even from oncologists.  Kaye, I'm also one of those who had chemo before the surgeries. 

    Nash, I'm really glad to hear you have a f/u with your surgeon....yes, I think we all have to be diligent for the rest of our lives. 

    June

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009
    Love the avatar, June! You look beautiful! Smile
  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2009

    JUNE! You are ABSOLUTELY DARLING!!!!

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited May 2009

    DeAnn,

    I'm so sorry to hear that news.  It never ends.  I'll pray for your MIL and you and your whole family.

    Lots of hugs, Jackie

  • yellowtownhouse
    yellowtownhouse Member Posts: 142
    edited May 2009

    Thanks ladies!  I kept waiting to grow some hair but I guess this is going to be it! LOL

    The guy who cuts my hair says, "hey not everybody could wear a punk rock haircut at your age, enjoy!"  Do you all think that was a compliment????   ROTFLMAO

    June

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited May 2009

    June, I definitely think it was a compliment. No-one else could see how well it suits you and complain! you look great. 

    DeAnn, so sorry to hear about your m-i-l. It is awful to hear and to learn about all these illnesses around. I just want to live, and to live well - and I hoped to leave behind me all this knowledge of chemo-rads-op-pre-op etc. but no, it keeps up with me. My mom is still quite well, all in all, it is just what is inside her that doesn't work. After  the first tumors in the lung, they saw one on the spine, at the level of the neck, and last week they also identified a new one on a lumbar vertebrae. GO FIGURE how it grew, given that she was undergoing chemo since xmas!!!! this stuff is really strong. So now they'll start her on a new type of chemo... 

    I hate looking at her, and finding myself selfish enough to hope I will not be following in her footsteps. 

    June, on a much lighter note: yes, like the girls I am counting since surgery. For me that was on the 11th of July, 7 days after DX! so my cancerversary is coming up... I am seeing the doc next week for my next follow up. actually I am looking forward seeing her - not really worried. Don't know why. Maybe because I've been so busy recently, that I haven't been thinking about it.  

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    Lilith, I'm sorry your mom has a new spot on her spine. Which chemo will she do next?

    Good luck with the followup appointments, and let us know how they go. I think it's totally normal to look at your mom and hoping you won't go down that road. I know that when my mom was really bad, my DH would look at her and have visions of me in that state in the future, and it would really freak him out. How could it not?

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited May 2009

    Hi Nash. 

    so far, she had the classic treatment - gemcitabine (Gemzar®), cisplatin (Platinol®), I believe associated with the  vinorelbine tartrate (Navelbine®), but I am not sure about the third one. 

    The new drug is Alimta. She had the first cycle last Friday, and she seems to be taking it better than the previous stuff; she is not feeling sick, and the infusion is much shorter. It will be paired off with rads to the neck, the doc feel that targeting the lung might be too debilitating at this point.

    She seems to be ok, almost normal - or rather, new normal. Tired and weak, never hungry, but not really in pain or in immediate danger.

    Who knows.  

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2009

    Jup, Lilith.  You're right. Who  knows. So we just keep pluggin' along. I'm glad she seems to be "almost normal"...Not in pain or immediate danger. That would be a good thing.

    On a fun note (fun for me)...Dh & I are trying to plan a trip to NY to see my sisters around June 20th. Jackie, Angie,...(actually, anybody east of the Mississippi) would you be able to meet me for lunch or coffee or whatever it is easterners do back there? My sister's birthday is the 20th, but we'll be going or staying a few days on either end of the 20th. They live right downtown (yes, I know it's a big place but I have no other landmark to offer.)

    Love and hugs to all...

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    What fun, Kaye! And guess what--my bday is June 20th, also! Isn't that funny? I hope you can hook up with the East Coast girls--that would be great.

    Hang in there, Lilith. Continued good thoughts for your mom coming your way.

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2009

    So Nash, you're June 20th too? I knew you seemed familiar somehow. Well, I wish you were going with me...but I've seen your summer travel plans, and Chile sounds REALLY fun. (wait. was it Chile? It started with a C...was it CHINA? no. wrong language. Must be Chile.)

    When do you leave? Buen venidos! (ok. the bad spanish can stop here.)

    Hey Jackie, Angie?... you girls out there?

    love, hugs, ...and even more hugs, my sisters.

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    Wish I was traveling somewhere--the Chile trip is pending for next year, maybe, if things work out. This summer is the Okinawa trip, but only my DD and DH are going.

    So that means I'm free to hop in your suitcase for the communal bday celebration. Cool

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    How is everyone?  I read up on the posts.  DeAnn, sorry about your MIL.  That stinks.  Lilith..I just love to say your real name much better... I hope Mom keeps fighting and hanging in there. June..you look fantastic!!!!!! I'm so happy to see your picture.  Nash..jump in Kaye's suitcase and definitely come.  Kaye...downtown Manhattan???? Let me know please!!!! DH and I would love to meet you. You have to find out where you are going??? LOL.  I'm so excited.

    I've been feeling better than ever (which makes me a little scared).  Sometimes I feel it's all behind me but then there's another doc appointment.  I'm getting my final nipple tats next Tuesday and I don't care if things fall off or hang off...I'm done with boob surgery.  I'm happy with the way they look.  I'm trying very, very, very hard to lose weight and get in shape.  It's happening very sloooooow.  One day of eating a little bad (okay, maybe a lot) and I gain 3 lbs.  I won't give up!! My sister is almost done with radiation.  Next week is her boost.  She is pretty burnt up, but feeling okay otherwise.

    Her daughter is doing a solo in her dance recital tomm and she picked "Just Stand Up" to cancer by all those female singers.  I will think of all of you and probably cry my eyes out!!!! But....they will be happy tears because that is just what we all did....we held each other up and I'm happy to see that so far we are all doing great.

    Big hugs to all, Jackie

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited May 2009

    Hi all,

    Nash - so help me, we have to just plan a reunion. Period. Because you won't fit in my suitcase. (Really. I put another human in there once, and there were legs and arms sticking out everywhere. Most disorganized. The arms kept grabbing other suitcases along the way and I had quite the mess to untangle at the end of the trip. I really shouldn't do that again.) 

    In real life now, it's looking like It's just going to be me going back. Dh found out about an 8 day fishing trip on the "boat of his dreams" around that same time...soooo weighing listening to me be an 8 year old again around my older sisters or proving his superiority to a 100 pound tuna...hmmmn.

    Jackie - I SO know what you mean about trying so hard to lose weight and it happening SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow. I can't help but think it's the two "A" words...Arimidex and Age.  For over 3 weeks i've been running 15 to 20 minutes every day (out of the 30 to 45 that i'm on the treadmill, total) and have i lost ONE pound? NO. That's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" in case you didn't hear me. I understand about the fat to muscle conversion, but really. this is ridiculous. And discouraging. But i won't give up either.  (I'm afraid to!)

     I'm glad your sister is done-Whew. And I'm glad she's doing as well as she is. It's all down hill from there, isn't it, girls? Pretty cool that her daughter is chosing to honor her by doing that song. It'll be Killah! Bring kleenex....

    Lilith - "it is just what is inside her that doesn't work"...I don't know what you meant by that. I'm sorry...like her emotions? or her actual body - even though she's feeling well, she's not well? Arrrgh. It's so hard to watch other people suffer. I'm sorry. (Hope you like your new job, and it's not wearing you out too much - especially with having to care for your mom.)

    D - (it's fun watching you on FB!)   Hugs to you and Angie and June and all the other people who are there, but don't check in...

    I love you all.

  • DGHoff
    DGHoff Member Posts: 624
    edited May 2009

    Hi All,

    I've been meaning to check in sooner, but just have been so busy! New York sounds like so much fun, Kaye! I hope you and Jackie can connect!

    Jackie, that's awesome that your sister is almost done!  Hooray!  I know what you mean about being done with boob surgery too! I still haven't gone back for my "follow-up" with my PS because, honestly, I just don't want to think about it anymore. 

    Lilith, I'm glad your mom seems to be tolerating the new drugs. I hope she can regain some strength. I'm glad they are showing some restraint in how they are treating things in order to not be so hard on her.  I wish they had done that with my MIL. 

    Things are not so good for her. She is finally able to eat again, but now her TMJ is acting up so badly she can barely open her mouth. And, they've now found a tumor on her adrenal gland and a couple more in her other lung. She was in some serious pain, but they've got her on some meds now that are keeping the pain in control. We're hoping now that she can eat, she'll start to get some strength back. We all went up to spend the weekend with her and I know she enjoyed having her grandchildren running around. The cool thing about kids is they just ask normal and bring so much sunshine into the room. She smiled more than I've seen in a long time. Smile

    In other news, I have my first real gig coming up.  I'm playing a song I wrote for a friend's wedding at the end of June. I've been practicing like mad and playing for anybody who will sit still to listen to me to get used to singing in front of lots of people! Yikes! 

    Hugs to all of you!!

     DeAnn

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited May 2009

    DeAnn, continued prayers for your MIL coming your way.

    How exciting about your gig! You rock!

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited June 2009

    Sorry about your MIL, D...And I know what you mean about kids bringing sunshine into a room. It's all "normal" to them - how refreshing. Hey, I can't wait to hear the song after the wedding. Ask them if it would be ok if you posted it on FB. You'll do great - you're very talented. Just relax and run with it. (I've done a few weddings...if you're prepared, it's great. They're usually a good crowd!) Just be there for the rehearsal to make sure all the electronics are doing what you want them to. Hopefully there's a sound guy who has experience...You don't want any surprises!

    Jackie, it's looking like we'll be back there the first week in August. Will you be around?  (Dh decided to come with me after all.) Maybe we can have lunch or coffee or something? PM or email me with your phone number, ok? so I can call you and we can hook up.

    Hugs to everyone - 

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited June 2009

    Well, in a sure sign that I need to get out more (although I'm still threatening to hop into your suitcase, Kaye, flailing arms and all), I am positively giddy, having just gotten off the phone with the onc's office and having found out that the insurance has not only approved my next Zometa infusion, but they've approved the next 5 infusions. Whoo hoo!  That will take me through all three years of Zometa Dr. Ozzy wants me to get. Since it's off-label for me, it was iffy if the insurance would cover anything past the first infusion. So, yay. 

  • yellowtownhouse
    yellowtownhouse Member Posts: 142
    edited June 2009

    Great news Nash!!!  One less thing to have to haggle with someone about.  Couldn't happen to a nicer gal!  :)

    June

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited June 2009

    Brilliant Nashie!!! So happy for you.

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited June 2009

    Nash, I'm so happy for you!!!!

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited June 2009

    That's GREAT NEWS, Nash. One less thing to worry about.

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited June 2009

    Thanks, girls! Laughing

    Today was my 2 year cancerversary, and I have to say I didn't feel quite as edgy about it as I did last year. So that's progress. I go see Dr. Ozzy and get my Zometa next week.

  • wackyjackie
    wackyjackie Member Posts: 669
    edited June 2009

    Happy 2 year Cancerversary!!!! We all seem to be getting further away from cancer.  Yeah!!!!

    Hugs, Jackie

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