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  • luckofthedraw
    luckofthedraw Member Posts: 53
    edited May 2009

    Dutch, Annabelle's angels are adorable.  From the looks, they are all related.

    My hair went bye-bye yesterday, 21 days after first FEC treatment.  I had buzzed it down to stubble last week.  It was itching like crazy yesterday, and the next thing I knew, I had a bald spot.  Got into the shower, and 95% of it fell out.  The peachfuzz that is left hurts, but is NOT coming out. 
  • DUTCHinAtlanta
    DUTCHinAtlanta Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2009

    Paula3558 and luckofthedraw - Our yard really reminds me of the opening scene from the Broadway musical "Cats".  If you look outside, there is not a cat to be seen.  Annabelle will go out on the driveway and call them; and one at a time they will start to appear - one from here, one from there, one from over there, one from behind there, etc - and come to her from all different places around the yard.  Pretty soon she is surrounded.

    They sure brighten her day.  Definitely a whole bunch of rays of sunshine!

  • TMD
    TMD Member Posts: 19
    edited May 2009

    It has been a long time since I posted.  I will have my 4th AC treatment next Wednesday and look forward to being half way.  My SEs have not been too bad--mainly mild nausea.  I just read today in the paper that ginger capsules help with nausea so I will purchase them over the weekend.  It seems like my hair is starting to grow back--is anyone else experiencing this?  I don't want to get too excited about my hair because the taxol might knock it out.  I am a liitle anxious about switching to taxol because it means new SEs.  I have been working the entire time through chemo and I think it has helped me maintain my energy and postive attitude.  I hope everyone has a calm and relaxing weekend.  Talk to you soon. 

  • shannon56
    shannon56 Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2009

    Amy - You are not alone, my hair is growing back also.  I had it buzzed down to almost nothing because I had holes of no hair.  It's grown enough in the past 2 weeks that it is visible to anyone who saw me after the buzz.

  • SingaporeChris
    SingaporeChris Member Posts: 612
    edited May 2009

    Dear Ladies,

    I am one year ahead of you all, had 6 x TC, surgery and 4 x AC and radiaton.  I am 3 months out of treatment and I am feeling fantastic and my hair has grown back all lovely an curly, my energy is amazing and you would never know I had ever been ill.  Hang in there ladies, it is a tough journey but with the help of the wonderful ladies on these boards you will get through it and have some great life long friends when it is over.  I am English and live in Singapore, our Sept Chemo girls from 08 are still going strong and we are all so glad to have had each other.

    Please try to eat properly ladies, it is so important for your body to have fuel.  Good luck to you all and whatever you are feeling, let the group know, it really helps.

    Appreciate all around you and live life for today. Love to you all, Singapore Chris x

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2009

    Chris, thank you so much for the encouragement and we are all so glad you are doing so well. Thank you for stopping in to say hi. We are all at the beginning of this treatment journey but we are becoming a tight group and are dedicated to seeing one another through to the other side.

    We'll be able to write in '10 to that group and offer encouragement the way you did for us.  That is something to look forward to.

    I hope everyone is feeling good and having a peaceful happy weekend.

    Amy

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    Hi everyone. I'm in week 2 of the second cycle of Taxotere/Cytoxan. I'm feeling less fatigued now and aches and pains are better (thanks to Claritin I think). I now have those red itchy bumps/pimples on my very tender scalp (which still has a few wisps of hair).... I know some of you have had the same SE. Any advice on how to deal with this? Thanks for your support.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    hrf - I am still dealing with the bumps/pimples on my scalp, and it's been 4 weeks since my last tx of tc.  I called my onc's office this week and they suggested a steroidal cream, like cortisone, which I've been faithfully applying twice a day and not seeing any results.  I think I'm going to have to call the dermatologist, because the onc's office had not seen any patients with this issue and they frankly weren't sure how to deal with it, other than to tell me to try to not wear any wigs, which I cannot do during the day at work.   I also tried white vinegar rinses, head and shoulders shampoo, and they weren't helping either.  Sorry I don't have any other news right now, but once I find out from the derm how to treat it, I'll let you know.

    Have a great weekend.

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    Chelev, thanks for your reply. 

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited May 2009

    I'm not on the same chemo drugs you are on (I'm on AC), but I had a lot of red bumps that started looking like hives, they were angry and red and then turned into pustules (looked like pimples).  I went to the dermatologist (because I didn't think the oncologist would be that helpful) and the derm said it was a folliculitis (I think this is inflammation of the hair follicles). She gave me two things. One was a prescription medicine that has clindymycin and benzol peroxide in it and also she had me buy herbiclens (an over the counter anti bacterial shampoo).  They also did a test on my scalp to make sure there wasn't anything bacterial growing and it came back clear.  The rash/bumps cleared up in several days and I feel so much better.  She said it was something they commonly see after chem hair loss. In my case I think it was a combination of the shaving and then sunscreen that caused it.

     Sorry this got so long and I apologize for my spelling errors. All the medicines are impossible to spelll and I didn't go and check them on the bottles.

    Go see a dermatologist and have them give you something, you will feel so much better.

    Pam

  • Nadine54
    Nadine54 Member Posts: 230
    edited May 2009

    Ladies:  On the head bumps/pimples I found that A&D ointment worked magic on my bumps...just a little two times a day and with in a couple of days they were all cleared up and gone.  I also switched to baby shampoo only and a baby moisturizer for the scalp.  I keep my head covered when out doors so I skip the suntan lotions on the head.  For wearing a wig or hats that may still show light through I use wig liners...nice soft light weight cotton and lets the scalp breath.

    Hope everyone is doing well this weekend. 

    Nadine

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Aris, that sounds like what I have now - a raging case lasting 2+ weeks!  I'm planning to call my dermatologist on Monday, because the onc's office frankly sounded puzzled,like they don't deal with that very often.  You can buy the shampoo at a drug store?

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    good suggestions .... thanks. I will follow up. Can you get A & D ointment without a prescription. Monday is a holiday here so I can't call doctor until Tuesday and would love to get some relief.

  • jeezy
    jeezy Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2009

    Helen...A&D Ointment is over the counter in the US, but I'm not sure about Canada.  Hopefully it is or someone from your area will respond.   I've had a coupe of bumps come up over the last few days so I will try this as soon as I can get to the drug store. Tx 2 really hit me hard.  I'm 10 days out and and finally starting to feel like my old self.  Last weekend is a huge blurr I think I slept for about 5 days straight and completely through Mother's Day.

    Nadine thanks so much for the information about the A&D it is a simple and cheap solution.  Let's hope it works for everyone.

    Chris, thanks for stopping by and sending everyone words of encouragement.  I'm a 12 year survivor who didn't have a recurrence, but found a new primary.  So I know the other side too and it can be done and you will feel human and strong again...we may have a new normal, but we will be normal again.  

    I hope everyone has a great weekend and feels good.  God bless!!

    Jeezy~ 

  • DUTCHinAtlanta
    DUTCHinAtlanta Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2009

    "A&D Ointment" ? As in Vitamin A and Vitamin D?

    What section of the drug store should I look for it?

  • Nadine54
    Nadine54 Member Posts: 230
    edited May 2009

    On A & D Ointment, there are two different kinds.  I use the A&D Original Ointment.  Its also great for the diaper rash and as a skin protectant.  I have used it on my head for the pimple bumps, arm for a problem with skin rash, and private area for sores I got at one point.  There is no burning and it feels more like Vaseline but works like a champ.  It is inexpensive which is plus right now.  For me on every area I had to put it everything cleared up fast. 

    I would look in the ointment section of the drug store, however any grocery store should have it also since its also used for baby rash.  To save time of hunting I just ask someone to help me find it...way to much stuff on the shelves to look at.  Also, baby shampoo and other products are real mild and have been a true saver for me...and about the only odor right now I can tolerate.

    Nadine

  • minevicp
    minevicp Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2009

    Luckofthedraw - I had my second round of FEC on May 15, and like yours, it was worse than the first one, I actually threw up when I got home. The ginger root tip is great, do you have to peel it first? How much do you use? I find ginger ale helps but sometimes a hot drink is what I want. For taste issues, I find that regular rinses with warm salt water restore my sense of taste. Sleeping is a problem because of the dexamathasone, but this time I got some Ativan and that helps. My hair is falling out rapidly, I look very mangy, but don't feel like a buzz cut. Have started wearing some nice scarves I got from Headcovers.com

    DutchinAtlanta - I love your cats! I live with 2 Siameses, and I swear they know when I'm feeling bad, they come and snuggle with me and make me feel so much better.

    Hugs to everyone and thank you all so much for your tips and sharing. It is so good to know that there is a whole wonderful community of brave tough women helping each other through this. 

  • comingtoterms
    comingtoterms Member Posts: 421
    edited May 2009

    Hi all,

    A&D Ointment is definitely in the baby section of the store - near the diapers etc.  It works miracles on diaper rash, so I am not surprised that it would work for this too.  The bumps definitely are disconcerting, but as long as I keep them moist, It seems to help for me..

    Chris thank you for stopping by.  When you are where we all are in "the journey" it often feels like it will never end.  It's like one long "hump day"!!!  It's so reassuring to hear from someone who is just far out enough to remember.

    Dreading tomorrow - tx #3 - had more SEs the second time than the first..... does anyone else find that they get very anxious the day before, and almost nauseous at the thought?

    Chelev, you have been put through the mill, girl.  I feel so bad - dealing with SEs still after you stopped tx.  I am glad you stop by though, it's like you're still part of the group!

    Tammy

  • jeezy
    jeezy Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2009

    Tammy -  Good luck tomorrow and the following days with tx #3 I hope it is not as bad or worse than #2.  I had more SE's with tx #2 also and am sort of dreading #3 which is a still over a week away.  I had A/C and Taxol in 1996 with great results and I know you will have the same!  I know its rough, but hang in there because in the end all the SE's are worth it when you are healthly again.

    Jeezy~Cool 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Tammy - Hi!  Yes, its been quite the adventure!!  I always have said, if there are going to be weird side effects to ANYTHING I am taking or given, I will have them.  Goes with the territory, so at least I'm used to it.  Not to say I don't like it!  We'll see what the dermatologist says.  Hopefully, this seems to be the last of the chemo side effects, besides the slight numbness in my fingers on the right hand, which I hear can last a long time.

    How are you doing?  Good luck with round #3 - I would have been right there with you, if I were still getting chemo.  Have 4 radiation treatments under my belt, out of 26.  So far, so good. 

    Take care and have a great week, ladies!!  Hoping nobody has to deal with horrible s.es!

  • tulipbebe
    tulipbebe Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2009

    One week after my 3rd AC, I am finding that my nails are starting to look really unhealthy.  The half-moons are disappearing (or turning dark) and the skin around the nails are turning dark.

    Does anyone have the same side effects?  Will the nails eventually fall out?!  Will it hurt if they fall out or would the nail bed be dead and not feel anything?

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    Last time I had chemo, that happened to one toe nail which did eventually fall out. It wasn't painful. But it took a while for the nail to grow back.

  • tulipbebe
    tulipbebe Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2009

    Thanks Helen.  Not being painful is at least some consolation to the nails falling out.  Hopefully not all of them will come off for me!

  • Believe1
    Believe1 Member Posts: 216
    edited May 2009

    Hi ladies, I  was just on the reconstruction forum, but before leaving I wanted to check in and tell all of you, that you are truly in my thoughts everyday.  Although, I am no longer doing the chemo, it is something I think about everyday.  I am hoping that fades in the future.  I wish all of you the very best in your treatments and in your health for many, many years. Having been an April girl as well, I know how hard it is and I respect everyone of you.

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited May 2009

    I just got my free scarf in the mail from Laurie Erickson. And it is beautiful. I don't know if the colors are ones I would have chosen (orange is the primary color with a paisley print), but the scarf is lovely and so so soft. It came with a lovely card signed by the people who work with her at franceluxe.com.  So lovely and thoughtful. 

     Tulipbebe, I am on a similar schedule as you (am about to have my 4th dd AC this week and my fingernails are still here. They are brittle and very dry (as are my cuticles), but they haven't felt funny yet, nor are they lifting. I go to Taxol and Herceptin after this AC dose and I've heard the Taxol can affect your nailbeds. 

     I'm finally feeling better after this dose of AC. I was really tired from it, but today when I took a walk, it actually felt good and I wasn't completely wiped out. Just in time for another dose this Weds, right?

    I'm finding the duration of the chemo to be overwhelming, maybe even more difficult than the medicine itself is thinking about how long this will go on.  Friends have set up a helping hands sort of website for food deliveries; I haven't cooked much in months because of this,  but I'm starting to feel like it's a burden for the same people to keep bringing me food. I am feeling like asking my friend to stop asking for food, but I don't know what to do.  I feel guilty asking for help.  It's hard and it seems to get harder as this goes on. My chemo runs through mid August and then I will stay on the Herceptin throughout next April. And then I go to rads in Sept for 6 weeks. It seems like a long time to continually ask for help.  Anyone else feeling like this?

     Pam

  • Eliza2009
    Eliza2009 Member Posts: 31
    edited May 2009

    Can I join this group? Started chemo on April 9. TACx6

    Eliza

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Hi ladies - just wanted to let you know that I saw the dermatologist today and it definitely is folliculitis, which means an infection in the hair follicles on the scalp.  She said it is not uncommon with some chemo patients as the chemo manifests itself in different ways.  Mine is particularly bad as the advice my onc's office gave me to use hydrocortisone only made it worse, not better, but they honestly didn't know what or how to treat it when I called.  I have oral antibiotics 3x a day plus an antibiotic foam to use twice a day.  Hopefully it will clear up fairly soon.  They also took a culture of it, to make sure it isn't anything more.  Just another weird side effect that goes into my book of "this usually doesn't happen, but . .. "

    I'm glad to see everyone hanging tough - I do think about you all alot and follow the forum, as I was in it from the beginning.  Hope all of you are doing okay and wishing you finish up with your treatments with as little side effects as possible.  Things are going okay over on the rads side, had treatment #5 with no side effects (hope it stays that way!).  Hair still kind of growing in, though the issues with my scalp mean no Nioxin or other treatments for a long time, but they said to make sure I take biotin supplements.  The derm also said that the gray hairs are normal, sometimes the pigmentation doesn't kick in for a bit.  I hope so!  I barely had any grays before.

    Take care everyone!

  • Paula3558
    Paula3558 Member Posts: 63
    edited May 2009

    Hi Everyone,

    I had my third chemo treatment last thursday. I am pleased to say that the side effects this time were much better than the second go round. I took Claritin and Aleve everyday and noticed that the bone pain was tolerable. And no shingles this time. Yea! Nausea also under control with reglan before meals and at bedtime. I'm halfway there, can't wait until I'm done with the chemo. I wish everyone well.

  • HelenNC
    HelenNC Member Posts: 84
    edited May 2009

    Ok all....this was fun while it lasted! I've had 2 good weeks, now tomorrow I have my 2nd Tax/Cytoxin treatment. Not looking forward to the whole body pain for 3 days again. I'm going to ask my onc for something to help with it. I tried the Claritin & I took Vicadin every 4 hrs, but it didn't help.

     Gonna enjoy Dancing with the Stars & 24 tonight!!!!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    Chelev, thanks for the update on the folliculitis. Today is a holiday in Canada so I will call the doc tomorrow. Others suggested A & D ointment but I haven't been able to find it here.

    Aris, I also got my beautiful head wrap from Laurie Erickson - along with the card signed by everyone there. It was truly a lovely gesture. The one I got is like an animal print - just black and brown and it is soooooo soft. With my head being so irritated right now and I'm not able to wear a wig, I wore it when I went to visit my grandchildren.

    Even so, my grandson (4 1/2 yrs.old) commented that I looked different. His parents don't want me to tell the truth about what is wrong so I just said that I had a rash on my head and had to wear a scarf.

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