WHY DOES THIS MAKE ME SO ANGRY?

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  • hollyann
    hollyann Member Posts: 2,992
    edited May 2009

    Well when my sister was diagnosed I was one of the funeral whiners....I regret it greatly...I was soon diagnosed after her (5 months after to be exact).....And BOY HOWDY  how i have learned to hate the funeral whine and the pitying looks when people find out!.....I am now 2 yrs out and most people I meet today don't know my diagnosis and won't unless I tell them.....And the ones who were pitying me then are wowing at me now cause I guess they thought I wouldn't be here now.......Now what irks me is when people say how strong I am or how upbeat and positive I am.........Strong? Me?.....NO....I still cry at the drop of a hat and onc visits still give me the willies......Upbeat? ME?......Only on the outside........On the inside I am to borrow TGF's explanation F(frustrated), I (insecure), N (neurotic), E (exhausted).........I am frustrated that my onc kind of poo-poo's my aches and pains,  I am insecure in my own healing and health,  I am neurotic thinking every little pain is cancer again, and I am Exhausted from all the worry and physical pain...........But like everyone else i say I am fine and go on with a smile because it is what it is..........I hope I die of something else in say another 40 years but if not then that is my lot.......I try not to sound whiney to women i meet with bc but I am sure some of it comes thru anyway.....i am sorry iif it does........I have 3 friends who are stage 4 and I try to stay upbeat around them but it is hard....Especially one friend who recently got sucky news and had to tell her  kids it is just a matter of time.........

    Sheesh!  i made this way too long but i am so glad ot get this off my chest.....You guys are great!......

  • Triciaski
    Triciaski Member Posts: 145
    edited May 2009

    I don't take offense, and I think it's a sign of genuine concern when people ask me, "How are you?" or "How are you doing?" Unless I'm speaking with a close friend, I generally answer, "I'm doing really well. Thanks for asking," and that's the end of it.

    What I find amusing more than offensive is how often people assure me that I look GREAT, as if that's unusual. But again, I know they are being supportive and don't mean offense.

    What offends me are the people who tell me how lucky I am it was caught early and how I need to stay positive. I'm also amazed at the stupid, thoughtlessness of people who need to tell me about their relatives who died from breast cancer. The other comment that offends me is, "Oh, you'll be just fine," usually followed with a story about a relative who had it worse than me and is now just fine.

    But, again, most people mean well. Some are just better communicators than others.

    Tricia

  • nanabolini
    nanabolini Member Posts: 61
    edited May 2009

    Getting diagnosed with breast cancer is enough to make anyone angry, very angry.  Let's face it, there is no way to put a happy face on it. And there is  no one out there who can truly empathize unless they've been through it.  They just don't get it.  Not that long ago I was one of them! 

  • shannon56
    shannon56 Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2009

    I think that as a BC patient I was very sensitive to comments at first.  But since then I realize that BC like any other dangerous disease is something hard for those that don't have to converse with those that do.  I had a co-worker 5 yrs ago have a bi-lateral mastechtomy and when she came back it was at first hard to know what to ask and what not to ask.  So one day I sat down with her and asked what can I say and what is off limits.  She didn't mind talking about it so I asked questions and she answered.  Those little chats gave me so much information that when I was diagnosed I knew what to ask the doc and what not.  So when the gouls call I tell them it's not a good time for talking and the ones that are truly interested I answer their questions.

    Yes, many people tell me I look good and I appreciate that because most people assume patients on chemo are going to look like death warmed over.  Think about the way chemo patients are portrayed on TV -- they make us look like the next breath will be our last.

  • Tabbygirl521
    Tabbygirl521 Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2009

    Most everyone I know has been pretty good about how they ask...I do have a couple of people in my life who get a little bit into the drama (although I know they do genuinely care). Early on, I told them (after giving them a basic status report), "I don't want this to be All About Cancer" and they went, "Oh, OK," and have been thoughtful in their inquiries since then. The people who really don't care that much and just want the gory details - well, I'm a person to flip a little sh*t to make THEM uncomfortable - I really love Barbe1958's remark about freezing her tits off. That's what the truly nosy and prurient deserve!

  • gwerfil
    gwerfil Member Posts: 39
    edited May 2009

    I get angry, too. I have a friend who is 17 years out from DCIS, lumpectomy, followed by Tamoxifen. Today I admitted that I became anxious and scared and sleepless in the middle of the night and she gave me a very stern and condescending lecture on staying positive, as though I was in the wrong somehow and could flip a switch to correct myself. I am right in the midst of radiation! I needed some understanding, not a reprimand from a schoolmarm, but I'm glad she has done so well. Later I spoke to another friend (a nurse) who is doing fine 7 years after a lumpectomy and she blurted out, "You know what? Breast cancer is humiliating!" We laughed, and I said I had not heard anyone else say that, but I felt the same way, though I am not so comfortable admitting it. It feels childish and vain.

    Sometimes I feel exactly like I did when I wet my pants in front of my entire first grade class. I know I looked like a deer in the headlights at that moment and that's how I feel right now. I don't mean to offend anyone, breast cancer is a very serious and terrifying disease, but I do feel ashamed, as though I have "failed" to stay healthy and I'm being a nuisance. I get angry with myself for feeling that way, because I know it's not my fault--though--I did take HRT, but my mother took estrogen into her seventies and she is alive and kicking at 90, no breast cancer, so I thought it was safe. I did years of fertility treatment, Clomid, Pergonal, Metrodin, but finally achieved a pregnancy and gave birth to our wonderful daughter, so that was a risk I do not regret.

    I know it takes time to absorb all this. I was only diagnosed two months ago. I do see a woman therapist who is great, but I have not shared my situation with many people, partly because of the assumptions I made in the past when I heard about a breast cancer diagnosis, and yet the several older women I have known over the years who had breast cancer all lived normal lifespans and did fine. I feel guilty for feeling angry, too, because in the waiting room while waiting my turn for radiation I have met some lovely, strong women who are facing more challenging diagnoses. I don't pester them with my problems. I want to be there for them, but I am in unchartered territory and learning as I go along. 

    I am scared silly about beginning to take Arimidex in a few weeks. My best wishes to all of you out there.

  • idaho
    idaho Member Posts: 1,187
    edited May 2009

    Oh gwerfil- breast cancer IS humiliating.  I feel as you do- like I did something wrong.  It is also humiliating because after you are done having babies and breast cancer there just isn't any dignity left!  ha ha ha.  We are learning as we go along.  But I think we are entitiled to ALL of our emotions- angry or happ, or whatever.. Tami

  • gwerfil
    gwerfil Member Posts: 39
    edited May 2009

    Thank you, Tami. It's nice to have my feelings validated. I think one of the most humiliating moments is what I call "the water balloon." That's when my boob is hanging down through the hole on the radiation table and the attendant is male!

  • vision4utoo
    vision4utoo Member Posts: 138
    edited May 2009

    I have to put in a word or two...LOL!  I have a mixed bag of friends, well wishers, co workers and family too!

    I am starting to feel the "you're cured, move on" phrase _ my doctors were very clear with me about being in remission and being "cured", ignorance breeds all sorts of nonsense and most people will not investigate or research the true nature and fickleness of this thing called cancer until they are Dx'd or someone very close is.

    For me, most people have been truly wonderful - one of my "funeral whiners" is actually another survivor, our children are in the same school and she is really in fear, I am not.  Every little thing, she calls about and it has been a few years for her, while my DX was just about a year ago.  I see that she is lonely but feel she is pulling other's (family) strings, I am just keeping the lid on my temper and trying to encourage her to reach for the sunshine in her life each day.  One of my dear friends, he, just abandoned me during chemo - very fatalistic attitude!  I called to see where he had vanished and he said,"life sucks, he hates the human race, blah, blah blah..."  "look you got cancer! I m so depressed." uh wait a moment?, "I am not depressed and I am the one with cancer!"

     Anyway - do away with the unnessecary - Take out the trash!  I have had to eliminate communication with a handful and others are too afraid or feeling guilty that they didn't call...

  • HKitty71
    HKitty71 Member Posts: 141
    edited May 2009

    I actually handled things better while under going the surgeries etc.

    I am having a hard time dealing with the people who are like well you have had the reconstruction you have2 boobs again you must be fine or back to normal.

    Do people realize that NORMAL went right out the window with the diagnosis and the surgeries etc.? Has anyone had issues with that or am I just really messed up? 

  • idaho
    idaho Member Posts: 1,187
    edited May 2009

    Hkitty- no you are NOT messed up- It just kills me that people think just because you are done with surgery and recon that you are FINE!!  We will NEVER be normal again....  Tami

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2009

    I know for me, there are good days and bad days. I tend to stay away from people on the bad days and be more social on the good ones. So people see me when I am up and feeling fine. So they all seem to think this is a breeze, it's going so well, I'm so strong, etc etc.  I feel trapped because I let this happen - I only showed the good side. But that's what I wanted. And now this is the result. It is very confusing and there are NO RIGHT ANSWERS - at least I've figured THAT part out!

    I guess it helps me to have a very few close people that I am more honest with. So at least there's some outlet and they listen without judging. But still - as well as it is going for me (and it IS compared to many posts I've read), it is still HARD and I wonder if normal will ever mean normal again.

  • vision4utoo
    vision4utoo Member Posts: 138
    edited May 2009

    The hardest time for me was at DX when everyone was crying around me and I felt like I had to take care of them...and now during recon, most people do think "you're fine" - I don't talk about the fear of reoccurance or the lingering side effects of chemo and surgeries, that is why I am happy this site is here.  For the most part though, I am great! and I am alive now - so those little things (as I like to call them) are nothing. 

    Last week a man raped and sodomized an 8 yr old girl close to home,  he is now in custody, I cried for her, for the horredous actions forced upon this baby and other tragedies going around the country and world and I realize I am the lucky one!

     Be well!

  • bridget7
    bridget7 Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2009

    I think it is impossible to understand all the emotions and feelings involved with being diagnose with BC until you have.  I am amazed at the emotional ups and downs I have been going through. I was diagnozed with IDC on April 16 - having surgery on June 4. I have come to know the people I can talk to and the people who are uncomfortable being around me now (some co-workers) and I feel bad that they feel this way about me, but I can't apologize or change anything. I feel bad for me for getting this, I sure did not ask for it, but I am not contagious !!  At first it made me really sad to see that some people that used to speak to me cannot now make eye contact with me. It's hard enough knowing how I am supposed to feel without trying to dissect other peoples feelings, so I just stay away from them.  This has changed the I used to look at the rest of my life. Maybe that is naive. I don't know. All of my life I feared getting cancer, for some reason. And know here I am - I have cancer.  I will do what I can to get healthy again - but it is a scary ride, and I do feel really angry, and sad alot of the time.  It feels really good to read these forums, become a part of them, and be able to communicate with so many that are going through the same things. Being strong for each other, that's what it is all about.

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