MAY 2009 Rads
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is anyone else having TomoTherapy radiation? i'm wondering what your simulation experience was like (did they make a cast of only your head or also your torso?) and if you get a CT scan before every radiation treatment, which is what i will be having. for those of you not having TomoTherapy radiation, do you have a CT scan before each radiation treatment? TomoTherapy is a new development in radiation, supposedly more precise, no need for markings on the skin, etc. (though i did have 3 tiny dot tattoos), but i'm not thrilled about the CT scan every single time before the actual radiation.
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jrgolomb, no I haven't been warned about any MUSCLE damage because of rads and the TE. My PS was emphatic about doing things in this order because she felt she can repair any TE damage that the rads might cause. She wants me to wait 6 months before reconstruction so that my skin can recover from the radiation. Apparently it gets really thin?
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Good morning sisters - have a great day today! I am feeling good again - just finished rad#8 this morning! I too am using the Fruit of the Earth clear aloe gel, and a spray mist body deodorant from Naturally Fresh "honeydew melon" - it smells really nice. Health/natural food stores are an excellent source for such items. I put the aloe and deodorant on after each treatment, before I get redressed, and I put the aloe on before I go to bed too. Blessings!!!! You glow - I mean you GO girls!
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I had my last radiation treatment TODAY!!! Yeah!!! I do have 5 boosts to go though. But everyone tells me they are easier. I hope so, not that rads have been too bad, I do look Iike I have a VERY bad sunburn in that area, but not too sore. I don't know what came over me today, I was laying there (just like I have for the last 32 days and it just HITS me that I am laying on the VERY same table and getting rads from the VERY same machine that my Mother and brother did. THey have both since passed. I just started crying and couldn't stop. I hope I have a better day tomorrow. Tami
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{{HUGS}} Tammy. Congratulations on finishing radiation treatments! In their honor, you can be the survivor!
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Hi Ladies...
Well the first Rad is done...1 down and 32 to go....it was really good, it didn't take long and they took some pictures/xray type and then zapped me a couple of times. The tech gave me some markings and told me not to move AT ALL...and if my nose itched to NOT itch it or move. I moved my feet a tiny bit and she said "DONT MOVE...I will give you grace this time because its your first but no more!"...YIKES...I guess I need to pretend I am a STIFF each time.
I was also asked to see my Rad Doc as every Thursday he will see me and even though its my first time he wanted to be sure to explain what I will expect going forward and if I had any questions. He recommended that I don't swim in a hot tub..as the heat would irritate the boob. He said I could swim but to wash off the chlorine. I have open sores from the port removal and from my moles being removed so I won't be swimming this weekend. He also said it was good that I had the biopsy done on one of my moles.
The nurse recommended Calendual Cream when the boob gets sore and to put Aloe Vera w/o alcohol on it afterwards....I guess drinking the alcohol is okay though...LOL
Today I took off the bandages from my port removal its been a week...and it doesn't look pretty. I look like I got shot and stitched up again...urrghhh it better heal nice and even. Damn thing is right on the chest so low cut tops are not going to be good for a while. I look like I got into a fight with a cat with all the bandages I have on me between the moles and the port bandages. LOL
Idaho ...congrats on your last RAD...and so bitter sweet that you were there in the same place as your mother and brother....they were there with you in spirit as they were certainly on your mind today.
Its going to be warm this weekend ...in the 100's and the pool would be refreshing for sure...
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Hello all,
Princess...sorry to hear about the mugging incident...glad to hear everyone's OK
Puppers...glad to hear you're OK...
Maja and Jess...welcome...
Genia...good luck on the petscan...
Deb...sorry to hear about your friend...
Cruise...congrats on your first rad...yay for you...I was very anxious before my first rad...good luck with the mole biopsy...I'm sure it'll be alright...we just finished chemo for crying out loud...BTW, stop fighting with the damn cat...LOL...
Pringles and Ivorymom...I, too, have only three tattoos...
Chelev...I have the same mixed feelings about "the" machine...I had my 7th treatment today and I still freeze up every time it starts to buzz...I get worried that it's not zapping the right places and the tech would forget to turn it off or what have you...was so glad to know that the tech and everybody else in the rad center have been doing these for over a decade...the tech looked so young...
DDlatt...I'm doing the conventional rad therapy and don't get CT scans every treatment...the tech did take a "picture" on the sixth treatment just to make sure everything is still "aligned"...supposedly, some people lose or gain significant weight during treatment that they have to make sure that no adjustments are needed...
Idaho...congrats on the last treatment...hang in there...
Lisalisa...congrats on the first treatment...
Take care everyone.
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ddlatt..they did not make a cast of my head nor torso...although, my rad tech makes me use head and arm support pieces when I do the actual treatments...he checks my position and adjusts the table before every zap..I read somewhere that they make a cast to make sure that you're in the same position every time...hmmm...I guess they don't do it the same way everywhere...
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Hi, ladies. I met with the rad onc nurse this afternoon right before tx #3, and we discussed some things that the doctor didn't mention - one of them is to stay out of the sun and not use sunscreen on or around the breast area being radiated - she said the sun can irritate the area more than it will be during later treatments, and the sunscreen can also be very irritating. So, even though I'm in "sunny florida", I guess I'll be sitting under the umbrella when I'm outside, just like on chemo! She said if I want to get any color on my arms or legs, to just stick them outside of the umbrella. That was pretty funny. Also, I asked about taking vitamins and supplements and she said to mainly stay away from Vitamin C and E, because they are antioxidants, and they will speed up cellular turnover, and right now, we want to keep the cells moving slowly so they can benefit from the cooking (my word) they are getting.
Cruise - I had an itchy nose on my first treatment and I was wriggling it around like Samantha on Bewitched, because they kept telling me to make sure I was still - it was funny, one of the techs came over and scratched my nose for me!! The same thing with the simulation, I had one eye tearing up from allergies and the tech had to keep wiping the tears for me.
Treatment #3 went okay - nothing weird or anything happening.
Onc's office told me to try a cortizone cream on the breakouts on my head - they hadn't really dealt with that too much either, so of course, because it's me with a weird side effect, they said if it doesn't clear up in a week, they'll prescribe something for me. They also mentioned I should try not to keep my head covered, which is impossible during the day at work - I have to wear a wig or a hat or something, but the minute I'm in the car on the way home from the rads, off it comes!
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chelev...now my rad doc said that I can be in sun and to put sunscreen on everywhere....but wash it off before going in for zapping...which will be alright since I go in in the morning.
Glad #3 went well...no SEs...for you!
And like you the wig comes off...and I am free......after rads.
Tomorrow is #2...then a break over the weekend.....
Hope you ladies have a great RAD SE free day tomorrow....
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Interesting how we're all told different things! I was told that I COULD go in the sun WITH sunscreen but to make sure that the radiated area is covered. Hello....it's my breast, it is covered LOL!
I was also told to stay away from vitamin E and vitamin C but that the amount of those in my daily mulitivitamin is ok.
Tomorrow is day #3 for me. Only 33 to go LOL!
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Treatment #1 today. My neck and underarm and breast all feel a little warm. I had a hard time with "breathing normally" on the table, kept wanting to take a deep breath as soon as they left the room.
#1 down!
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Princess,
I too, have a hard time breathing "normally". I wish they wouldn't say that...it makes it harder to do LOL!
congrats on being done with the first one! Today is day #3 for me.....with 33 to go. ugh.
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Hello all. I am delaying my simulation to get a second opinion. My PS was very upset about this and that doesn't help build confidence witht the idea the PS could fix my breast if it is severely affected by rads. Can't get a hold of the BS right now. (irgh and double swearing)
btw, anybody on the MAY rads thread have an expander in?
Glad to read many of you are doing okay with this new tx.
HUGS!
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jrgolomb - a 2nd opinion is a good idea....i'd do it too!
i don't have an expander as I did DIEP surgery. i can ask at radiation today about rads during expansion!
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Here is a wierd question - today as I was going in for radiation #9, a lady was coming out who was wearing the cutest cap; she had had chemo and lost her hair obviously and was now almost finished with radiation. I wouldn't benefit from chemo per the Oncotype testing, and therefore didn't need the chemo. When I talked with the lady this morning, I felt GUILTY for having hair and having not needed chemo - has anyone else felt like this? Almost like a survivor's guilt - I almost wanted to go get my hair cut off - I know I should be thankful for no chemo, but that's not what I'm feeling this morning. Does this make ANY sense????
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That makes complete sense to me, and yes, I feel that guilt sometimes, too (my low oncotype score led us to a no-chemo decision, too). I veer around: from guilt, to relief, and then way over to second-guessing the decision and worrying that I'm not being "aggressive" enough. And actually that leads to another flavor of guilt, too: feeling guilty that I'm somehow being selfish (esp. vis-a-vis my kids) by choosing not to do chemo, that I'm wimping out and should be doing all I can for their sake.
Ah, but then I veer back to thinking no, chemo in my case isn't necessarily doing "all I can do" -- and really all I can do is to make what feels overall the right decision. And this decision does (for most of the time!) feel right and wise, when I look at it from all angles and from my innermost heart.
And there I try to stay...at least until the next ride around The Emotional Rollercoaster.
I go in for zap #8 today. Feeling tired and achy from it already...yikes.
Hoping everyone has a lovely weekend -- and a nice break from tx!
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Morning ladies...
Had #2 this morning...only 31 more to go.....
They took another set of pictures...the only thing that bothered me was my arm from being over my head..other than that nothing significant to report. I had to laugh at the techs this morning because they both asked me if my arm was always sore...and I said no why? and they looked and me and said "you have a rock on your finger the size of your eyeball...and it must weigh you down." We all laughed... Maybe thats why my arm hurts...LOL
I agree with you both lisa and princess...I feel like breathing really harder..and it scares me as I don't want my lungs zapped.
Puppers...it may be hard for you but please don't feel guilty. We all have different doctors and their way of treating this terrible disease...you may just be one of the lucky ones who didn't need chemo. We will get our hair back...and have heard it comes in better than before...so this woman may be thinking...She will have better looking hair than you...LOL
Now for a RAD free weekend...Hope everyone has an enjoyable weekend too!
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Lisa, yes it makes perfect sense to me!! Almost like you "cheated" the system because you didn't need chemo. I feel that way sometimes with some of my sisters who are still getting treatment or who did the full course of treatments. I had to stop after two, because of the severe side effects and complications, and I feel like a chemo dropout sometimes! But, I did lose my hair (well some of it, slowly slowly growing back, still look scary) with the two. But, you are still going through radiation - which we now all are, and I probably should have just done too, given my Oncotype score, and that makes us all part of the breast cancer sisterhood / team / SURVIVORS!!!!
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jrgolomb: I have an expander in. It's getting tighter and higher on my chest with each treatment, but my PS assured me that whatever happened during rads can be fixed. I have a lot of confidence in her.
Lisa, don't feel too guilty over not losing your hair! You sound like a very compassionate person, and I'm sure you've had plenty of milestones of your own during this journey.
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Hi Everyone! Just read the posts for the last several days.Some of your issues are also mine.
Just finished my first 5 days of 25. Did fine days 1 through 4. Kept telling myself that this radiation, following all of the biopsies, mastectomy, emergency surgery for necrotic incsion lines and a 6 week chest wall infection, then chemo- was going to ensure my cure.I kept a positive attitude about that awful machine zapping me from all different directions with ionizing radiation. I told myself, like one of you suggested, that they are rays of sunshine healing me forever.
But today I had a meltdown right there in the radiation room.It was triggered when they suddenly told me that they do 3 films every Friday. Sounds silly when I know I'm getting 5000 rads already for treatment.But no one advised me in advance that they would take about 12 xrays at the verification simulation and 3 every Friday for a total of 27 more xrays!.Head tech had dosimatrist figure out the math and it turns out that I'm getting an additional 150 rads.
I guess I've had enough "surprises" in the last 8 months and I can't take anymore. So like you ivorymom, I cried on the table. When you think about it we are submitting ourselves to unbelievably grotesque treatments of all kinds to save our lives.But it's the best that modern medicine can do today.I hope in 20 or 30 years ( or less!) care givers will look back on the treatment cancer patients had in our era and see it as a dark ages in medicine. Many women used to die in childbirth- which is now so rare as to be considered malpractice.Now it's breast cancer that takes many of us away.. I hope that some day cancer will be prevented with a simple vaccination- like polio.Until then we will do what we have to to make it.I guess crying is OK.
Re: razor. I bought an Infiniti by Conair. I had some hair starting to return to axilla. But I became very inflamed after using it. So I'm not going to use it again until radiation is over.
My energy is an issue already. I enthusiastically rejoined my health club last week.Before my diagnosis I worked out 2 to 3 hours a day. After finished chemo have been walking on treadmill for several weeks and doing some light weights. Intended to stay on top of that scary threat of severe fatigue. I get shots Tuesdays and Thursdays to prevent scarring. The first one Tuesday made me sleepy and instead of stopping at the health club I came home and took a nap. The Thursday shot really did me in. I came home and slept all day. Felt good Monday and Wednesday but am depressed over fact that I am so tired already.This too shall pass, but ain't it a bear?
Does anyone plan to watch the Farrah Fawcett special tonight? I don't. I'm afraid that I'll sit there, cry for her, and think I'm next !
Texas- sorry to hear about your lymphedema. I know there is a thread on the subject, which may be helpful.
Bold: can't believe its taking so long to get taste buds back. Isn't that taste just the worst?Glad your mammogram was normal. That is a sweet word isn't it?
lisalisa-your research study sounds interesting. It is good of you to do it for women of the future.
KM47: Welcome "aboard". I know- it's an awful pun on your travel/train analogy.I had to lighten up.
I hope everyone has a good weekend- at least we don't have to be radiated for 2 days!
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Hey all.....had round 10 today and so far so good. Just a little tenderness but nothing bad.
Got good news on my PET scan too......all clear......the report said NORMAL study and I've never been so glad to see that word in my life!
hugssssss
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Bold, you are so right about all of us having a lot of life left, even if this illness has shocked us and made us consider our mortality.
Sometimes I feel twinges of survivors guilt. Because I didn't need a mastectomy. There are so many crazy emotions that swim around and through us aren't there. My Mom had ER+ breast cancer 15 years ago. It was caught early and she received a lumpectomy, radiation and no pills because of being over 60. At least that's what they did at that time. She is still going strong. They caught mine really early to. I was expecting the same as Mom only pills because I'm in my early 50's. So, I was shocked and dismayed when I found out I was Triple negative and had to do chemo. My BRACA was tested. I was sure it was going to be positive and that I would need bilateral masectomies, but it was negative. I sure had lots of mixed emotions about that. It's crazy. But, mostly I try to just be thankful. It's hard to get past the fears at times. It takes a bit of work but, we do what we can.
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Hi jrg, I have a saline implant in too (single rt. mastectomy with immediate reconstruction). My PS was sort of funny, apparently she would be happy if I kept this implant permanently, but I HATE the tube and valve that are under my arm.
When I had my first consult with PS, she was not happy about the fact that I'd need radiation because apparently the immediate reconstruction can get wrecked during Rads, but it might not too, so they go ahead and do the immed. recon. and hope for the best outcome.
Lisalisa, glad to know I'm not alone with the breathing thing - - it was better today. I take my Tom's of Maine deodorant, Miele lotion, and 100% Aloe gel with me to rads, and put it all on afterward; aloe first. #2 down; the Rad techs are so nice. TGIF has new meaning for us!
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question, My doc doesn't do PET scans - - what are the pros/cons?
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Evening Ladies...
Genia...Great news....on your PETSCAN....AWESOME....
I have great news too...My GP called me at 7:30 tonight and said that the results from the mole biopsy showed NO CANCER....Yeah....I was worried when she took the sample and said it didn't look good...WHew....
I don't plan on watching Farrah either...its too personal and to close for comfort.
Have a great weekend ladies...I am going to drink some champagne!!!!!
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Let it out, ivorymom! Get it out of your system. But you also need to go outside and enjoy the nice weather I understand y'all are having up there right now. Soak up some of that sunshine, okay?
We refused to watch the Farrah Fawcett special too. Don't want to dwell on the "what ifs" because they've been driving me crazy lately.
I work from home, and for weeks the only people I've seen except my husband have been wearing scrubs or white coats. This weekend I'm getting out and among some "normal" people. Gotta keep the perspective or this can be overwhelming.
Princess K: I haven't asked about post-treatment scans. Hoping my doc orders a PET/CT because I don't trust mammograms. They didn't catch my cancer until it was already stage 3.
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Cindy (Cruise) - I am SO relieved for you!!! Now we can all breathe, because I know I was holding my breath hoping they would turn out to be begnign!!
Finished up #4 with no news to report. I guess every facility and every doctor does things differently. I did not get any xrays yesterday, but that doesn't mean they won't do any during the process of my treatment. I do have to have bloodwork on Wed. - I kind of thought I was done with that now that chemo is over, but I guess it's to make sure the radiation isn't lowering my counts too?
I watched the Farrah special last night, maybe I shouldn't have. It was depressing watching her go through all of those painful treatments she had in Germany, only to be told her cancer kept coming back - hers was very agressive and in some scary places and she was so strong and determined through the whole thing. I don't know why I watched it, except I guess I was curious and having been a fan of hers, I thought it wouldn't be so sad. Stupid me, now I've got thoughts I didn't even have in the beginning when I was diagnosed running in my head and I have to keep reminding myself that her cancer and my cancer are two very very different animals!
My bs did a pet scan before my surgery, but nothing's been mentioned about it during rads. I follow up with my bs after rads, maybe he's planning to do one at that time? The pros of a pet scan is that it shows if there is cancer activity by injecting a solution that has sugar in it - cancer feeds off sugar, so the scan will show any tumors in a bright color in the body. You fast the day of, and then get the injection, let it process for an hour or so, and then go for the scan. I don't know the cons except if you don't have great insurance, it may cost you a bunch as part of your co-pay.
Hope everyone has a great weekend - two days off from treatment - whoo hoo!
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Cruise - great news! so relieved for you!
Chelev - I, too, watched the Farrah story last night. wow. I guess I shouldn't have. It was VERY upsetting. I lost it when her son went to visit and she didn't know who he was
I had a "farrah" cut in my senior picture for high school....of course not nearly as gorgeou as hers. I imagine losing her "signature" hair was incredibly hard. I can't stop thinking about the "what ifs". What if she had done stronger chemos earlier on (and lost her hair 2 or 3 years ago). Would her prognosis have imporved?
Also, I'm being treated at UCLA where she first went. I am so so so sad for her that her story was leaked by UCLA. There have been quite a few instances of that and it pisses me off! Celebrities have rights for confidentiatlity too. And the paparrazi, don't even get me started!
Ok...off to baseball and soccer x 2 kids. Have a great day all!
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Hi ladies,
I'm jumping over from the April group to say hello. I started rads on April 29th and have 13 done/15 to go. Is it okay if I join the May group? --bonnie
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