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  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    Florbo, thanks for your response. Hopefully, I'll rebound but right now I'm too fatigued to do anything. Everything is a huge effort. Today is day 4 so maybe this is when things are bad.

  • TBB
    TBB Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2009

    Oh wait I did forget to mention that with cutting out sugars like ice cream, choc etc. I have lost 13 lbs since I had my 1st treatment (no steroids either) but this is all good weight loss not bad.... that has helped the spirits also!

  • comingtoterms
    comingtoterms Member Posts: 421
    edited May 2009

    Hey all you pre-menopausal gals out there who, like me, thought they would be plunged into menopause because of A/C tx.  Well, I was so excited that I stopped buying sanitary products and then, like you, have not only  gotten my period the past three months, but it was exactly on time and heavier than ever!!!!  I even got it the day after my MS.  What's up with that???!!!  I know my ER/PR + levels are at the top of the + scale, and I wonder if that is why?  Maybe being highly ER/PR + makes your body just not want to stop menstruating?  Ugh. Guess we may have to keep shopping in the feminine protection aisle a while longer!!  .....(I really need to get rid of that picture.  I have absolutely no hair left on my head).....Tammy

  • jeezy
    jeezy Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2009

    Sorry to all you gals that still get periods.  I know that is just one more thing you have to deal with and Chemo is enough in my opinion.  I had my second Taxoteer/Cytoxin/Herceptin last Thursday and I've been totally wiped out.   I laid down on Friday night and other than have to's I haven't been up at all.  I feel totally drained, no energy, but until today no pain...now I think the Neulasta shot is kicking in and the pain is starting.  Hopefully, my symptoms will subside by Wednesday like last time.  I been totally useless for four days...anybody have any suggestions for energy?

    Jeezy~~Undecided 

  • inthemoment
    inthemoment Member Posts: 538
    edited May 2009

    Jeezy - different chemo, A/C, but same issue with increased fatigue after the second treatment 10 days ago.  I am just starting to feel a little better. I started walking the dog over the weekend to increase stamina - went to onc today for counts which were good after being in the basement on Thursday, but started running low grade temp tonite - called onc - increase fluids, take tylenol, if temp goes up or any other sx, off to the er...I'm gulping water as I type - do NOT want to go into hospital - have HAD IT with feeling "sick" - just let me take the treatment and get to the other side!!!

    Kathy - I hope the bone pain was not as bad as last time.

  • Jean09
    Jean09 Member Posts: 126
    edited May 2009

    Hello Everyone, 

    This is all new to me and I'm so thankful I found this website that can give so much hope, inspiration and advice while on this journey.  I was diagnosed in April and started chemo on May 5th.  I am receiving TC.  So far, side effects have been fatigue and bone/muscle aches and stomach cramps when I go to the bathroom.  I dont have a problem with constipation, just these darn cramps, is this normal?   Reading through some of the postings, I noticed alot of women work while going through this, my onc currently has me on disability until October, 2009.  Is anyone else out there on disability while going through this?  I would not be able to function work wise while going through this so hats off to those who are working!! 

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    ljh, I am impressed that you can walk like that. I'm like Jeezy .. totally wiped....spoke to onc nurse and got the same advice ... drink, walk....do your best. Had some cramping but not too bad yet. I'm expecting the bone pain by Wednesday but have been taking Claritin .. mabye it will work? I also don't want to go to hospital.....hate the ER....I am off work as well - there is no way way I could even get up and drive to work in the morning and for sure I have no focus. Good luck, ladies. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited May 2009

    I'm totally wiped out too. I had my third dd a/c last Weds and it was by far the most grueling. I am just so so tired. I'm hopeful to start feeling better by later this week (that's what happened last time), but for now, I'm just doing what is absolutely necessary and then resting the rest of the time. I do take the dog for a walk in the morning, thank goodness for her, because she really does get me out of the house and I think a walk is a good thing. 

    I'm not working, but I didn't work before my diagnosis. I'm home with my kids, so I rest while they are in school so I can be "up" when they are home.  Today I'm hosting a playdate for them and about 5 of their friends (7 year olds). I just couldn't cancel it, they are so excited. I know I'll be down after that!!!

     I've been getting terrible headaches, anyone else? I'm pretty well hydrated, so that's not it, but they are just awful. 

     Peace to all who are struggling. We will get to the other side of this!

     Pam

  • comingtoterms
    comingtoterms Member Posts: 421
    edited May 2009

    My 2nd A/C hit me worse than the first all the way around.  I am finding increasing fatigue, but for once in my life, am actually listening to my doctor and my body, and when I am tired, I lie down.  I am sure every one of our Oncs has told us that chemo tired is a different kind of tired - not the kind that can be made up for  the next day by taking it easy.  If we don't take a rest when our bodies are virtually begging for it, we will get ourselves into a real mess.  Don't know about any of you, but I am a Type-A personality - used to working hard, having high expectations for myself, and I guess, in turn, for others.  This whole BC thing has been a huge eye-awakener for me.  I have never had my body let me down before.  I have a feeling there may be a lot more "me's" out there then I even realize.  Tammy

  • jlp
    jlp Member Posts: 54
    edited May 2009

    Hello everyone - been catching up with all the posts over the last week or so.  Hope you are all managing OK from your recent treatments. Tx 3 is tomorrow for me.

    I'm working through treatment, using my company's intermittent short term disability benefit to get paid leave for 3 or more days after each treatment.  I get chemo on Wednesday. After the second tx I felt OK Thursday apart from dizziness so not able to drive, and pretty much wiped out Friday and Saturday, OK Sunday and back to work on Monday, though only working 6 hours or so the first week back.  I took longer off for the first treatment as the neulasta pain and digestive issues were much worse.  The main issues I've had are tiredness, bad memory - I have to write down everything I need to do! - and poor concentration.  Fortunately my supervisor (and company mangement generally) are very supportive and I haven't had any problems with not being able to keep up my previous work load.

    As for fatigue side effects, I found I can't manage to do much other than drag myself from the bed to the couch, turn on the TV and eat 'instant' food (e.g. yoghurt, ice cream) on the Friday after TX. A bit better on Saturday, can manage a walk or small jobs around the house, then OK the next few days but needing more rest/naps. Even in the third week between treatments I'm still finding I have less energy than usual, but I am also slightly anemic - onc told me to take an iron supplement and I'm hoping that helps.

  • bombus
    bombus Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2009

    i go in for round three tomorrow, a little scared. the last round kicked my butt! i ended up getting so sick that i actually passed out one night. i had to go in and get three bags of iv fluids last week too. i didn't get over the nausea until yesterday. i really hope this time goes better. 

  • Jean09
    Jean09 Member Posts: 126
    edited May 2009

    Hi BC Friends,

    Bombus, I'll keep you in my prayers that things go well for you on round three, hang in there.  DBOak - I have a rash also but mine are tiny bumps that itch like crazy.  I went in for a blood draw yesterday and they said to put benadryl on them to relieve the itch.  I hope this works and it doesnt get worse.  My WBC's are critical low and I have to stay indoors, no access to public.  I am going to go stir crazy, luckily I found this site and all of you ladies!  Has anyone else been told by their onc that the treatment will cure you of the cancer? 

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited May 2009

    Bombus good luck today, tell your onco of all SE maybe they can change something for you this time. You will be in my thoughts today. Be brave.

    kathy

  • DUTCHinAtlanta
    DUTCHinAtlanta Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2009

    Annabelle's Guardian Angels & Morale Boosters

    We live in a suburban subdivision near Atlanta, but our lot is a little over an acre, heavily wooded and has a creek running through it.  Just about the time that Annabelle was diagnosed in January, we noticed a group of feral cats had started to visit and root through our mulch pile for household garbage.  Annabelle grew attached to them and insisted on putting out real cat food for them.  As a result they started coming up to the house, and gradually allowed us to get closer to them; and finally to start petting most of them.

    Here they are at feeding time:Guardian Angels

    There were 9 of them, but now only 6 or 7; and they have become quite tame.  She has named them all: "Preggie, Buddy, Funny Face, Fluffy, Boyfriend, Cockeye, etc."  During the hardest part of  the after chemo SE's, she was more concerned with where these "Guardian Angels" were and that I was feeding them.  When they would show up from all corners of our yard, Annabelle's whole demeanor would brighten up; so we have decided that these are her "Guardian Angels and Morale Boosters" sent by a Power Greater than Ourselves to help her get through this current stretch of bumps along her path of life.

    I hope it's OK that I posted this.  On these dark days, we all need a little bit of  sunshine; so I hope this post will brighten your day!

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    jeanohio ... my onc said the cancer was curable with this treatment ... I know there are no guarantees but it's nice to know it's possible

     bombus... I hope today goes well for you

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2009

    Just got back from the genetic counselor. My BRCA results were negative. I am still in shock (I thought they would be positive for sure) and am very relieved. Am feeling much better post TX#2 than the first one. I really think the probiotics and aloe juice I am taking helped with the stomach cramps and general GI  SE's I had the first time.

    HOWEVER - my scalp is down to stubble but is ITCHING like crazy! There are a lot of red bumps and my husband is afraid to shave it with a razor because he said it will nick the bumps. But I have also read that shaving it makes it feel better. It almost seems like the stubble is GROWING since we buzzed it on Saturday. Is this possible?  Help anyone???
    THANKS!
    Amy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Amy,

    Hi - I too ended up with red bumps / what looked like acne breakouts on my head following my second tx, and I am still dealing with them, but they are slowly going away.  Been swabbing white vinegar (thanks to Cindy for that tip) on my head, to help balance the ph, and then using this anti-fungal cream my onc prescribed for a different rash.  It is possible that your hair has started growing back some, mine did, but seems to be stalled, and I am 4 weeks out from my last treatment.  The stubble did make me crazy at times with the itching - try the vinegar rinse, it may help, and either benadryl cream or anti itch cream.

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited May 2009

    Amy don't shave with a razor will cause ingrown hair.....

  • ikat
    ikat Member Posts: 128
    edited May 2009

    Dutch

     I love your angels they are so so cute....not that I am a cat lover or anything.Laughing

  • DUTCHinAtlanta
    DUTCHinAtlanta Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2009

    ikat - They sure do a lot to keep Annabelle's spirits up when she's feeling down.  A couple of them now love being picked up and having their bellies and ears scratched.  They purr like buzz saws; and these were completely wild ferals a few months ago!

     We also have two inside the house dogs.  One of them sleeps on the floor next to Annabelle's side of the bed; and will not move when she is not feeling well and lieing in bed.  Another furry guardian.

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited May 2009

    I had a terrible rash from the shaving, or at least I think it was from the shaving. I had my husband buzz cut and then shave my head. I started putting sunscreen on it and within a few days of the sunscreen/shaving, I had developed a rash. I saw a dermatologist and she said it was a folliculitis (sp?) and she gave me some medicine for the rash. She said it is common either as a side effect from the shaving and/or a reaction to the sunscreen.

    The rash is now gone, but the I do have stubble growing in now!

    Good luck!

    Pam

  • HelenNC
    HelenNC Member Posts: 84
    edited May 2009

    Well, today my hair is officially gone. I went to get a custom wig fitted & the stylist said it would be better if my head was shaved. I said I wanted to hang on until it fell out. With that, she ran her hands through my hair & lo and behold....she had a handful. So she buzzed me.

    But I did get a beautiful wig, curtesy of an organization called Crickett's Answer for Cancer. I thank them so much!

  • bombus
    bombus Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2009

    todays chemo went fairly well, much better than the last time. i do have to watch the weight loss, i am losing a bit too much but the new anti nausea meds should help that quite a bit, along with the anti  diarreah meds. i lost 12 lbs in two weeks that is a bit extreme so i am going to try to eat more, maybe it will give me a bit more energy too. 

     i am getting used to going around with my bald head, and doing really good with it. i have even got a few compliments on my cute head from strangers.  i really hate wearing anything on my head and only do so if i am cold, which isn't often. 

      

      

  • tulipbebe
    tulipbebe Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2009

    Hi Pam,

    I just got my dd AC Monday.  Like you I have been terrible headaches.  This round also hit me hard.  I couldn't really eat much for the last 2 days, but was constantly hungry.  What's worse is the diarrhea that hit me.  Not sure what to do but to keep drinking water, gatorade and imodium.  I went for a drip today.  Came back better but diarrhea still kept coming, even from just drinking water.  Tomorrow I go in for the Neulasta shot.

    Hope you're feeling better already

  • hrf
    hrf Member Posts: 3,225
    edited May 2009

    I'm starting week 2 following my second round of TC. I took claritin all week and so far avoided the excruitiating bone pain - I don't know if it's related but it worked. I've had little twinges that were easier to manage. The issues have been fatigue and diarrhea but manageable. I also find my mood swings depending on what drug I am on or off has an impact on my wellbeing. Thanks for all the advice and I'm hoping the rest of this cycle goes smoothly. I understand that the white blood count drops during week 2 (even with Neulasta) so it's time to stay away from crowds. Hope the rest of you are coping.

  • aris
    aris Member Posts: 124
    edited May 2009

    tulipbebe,

    Sorry to hear you are plagued with headaches too. Coffee has helped, but I'm trying not to get addicted to caffeine.  I may try acupuncture this go around, don't know if it will help, but a friend mentioned it might help with the fatigue.

     I'm also sorry to hear about the diarrhea. I had constipation the first go around and now just use colace and that seems to help.  I think the constipation is caused by all the anti nausea meds, or at least that's what they tell me (I'm on emend, decadron and zofran around the treatment).  Oh and I'm eating everygthing I can find, it's awful how hungry I am, and eating a little bit help with the nausea too. I just wish I wasn't continuing to gain weight.

    Hope your week goes okay. I'm on an off week, so I'm just starting to feel better - thank goodness.

    Pam

  • DUTCHinAtlanta
    DUTCHinAtlanta Member Posts: 58
    edited May 2009

    The hair started to fall today - day 14 after TC1.  Have an appointment Monday to get buzzed and fitted for a wig.  She's feeling fine and her spirits are good.  The SE's seemed to go away after day 8.  TC2 in one week.

     Taking it all One Day At A Time!

  • Alaina
    Alaina Member Posts: 461
    edited May 2009

    I'm just ending up week #2 post Chemo #2 and the week would have been fine without the coughing and sneezing I've been experiencing since Monday.  At first I thought it was my allergies and was taking my normal allergy meds at night, but it was not improving, so I finally called the nurse today.  I don't have a fever, but I'm sneezing yellow and coughing up yellow, so she is giving me a ZPack just to be sure I don't have a sinus infection or bronchial infection of some sort.  She said I should be fine to do Chemo #3 next Friday.  I really don't want to get off schedule.

    Hopefully I'll feel better by the weekend.  Right now I just feel *blah*

  • jeezy
    jeezy Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2009
    Good afternoon everyone...
     
    I am one week out of TC #2 H #6, and have to say that wiped out doesn't describe it.  My Onc said it could be because I've had chemo before, but I slept from Friday until Sunday and was in a horrible fog.  I slept Monday and then Tuesday and Wednesday I laid around all day and did virtually nothing.  Got up early this morning and headed for H #.  I see so may SE's that sound familar.  I hope the rest of the week and next week is better.  I've had diarrhea today.
     
    Pam...I'm like you I'm not as nauseated as I am hungry and I eat everything in sight and because I have no energy I usually grab something fattening and I'm also gaining weight.  I did 12 years ago too so I sort of expected this.  If I can just stay within 5 lbs I will be happy but I have a feeling it will be more.  
     
    I feel the same about my wig, I'm so scared it is going to get lopsided or something.  I also got my silk wrap today and it feels wonderful.  I love it.  
     
    I wish everyone lots of energy, no paid and no SE's for the weekend!!  God bless ya'll.
     
    Jeezy~~ 
  • Paula3558
    Paula3558 Member Posts: 63
    edited May 2009

    Hi Ladies and Dutch,

    Just had my third treatment today. Hope it goes better than the second. I felt so bad after #2 that at one point I wanted to stop the treatments. I've reconcidered. And know to prevent or hopefully prevent reoccurence I need to continue. Just have to keep reminding myself that it's the treatments that are helping to save our lives, and are also making us feel so bad. If we didn't feel bad it wouldn't be working. So lets keep supporting one another.

    Bombus- hope round three also goes better for you.

    Dutch- loved the pic of your wifes guardian angels. Hope she is doing well.

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