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  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Bev - I've PM'ed you!

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Kerry`~ Isn't it funny what we have found out late in the game ??

     Okay I added a picture so I wanted to check and see if it works.  It was so easy I am embarrassed that I put it off for that long.:)


    Dx 12/24/2008, IDC, 1cm, Stage I, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009
  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Thanks I was checking out to see if I like the ta-ta's ...lol....  I can take pictures of everyone else but I stink at taking them of myself. 

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited May 2009

    xpectmiracles...why does it not surprise me that you do kick boxing.

    great sport.. takes tons of energy.  that's a workout i might choose.

  • MRSROCKYTOP55
    MRSROCKYTOP55 Member Posts: 403
    edited May 2009

    Can anyone help me with this question?  I just had my last AC yesterday and have done relatively well with the exception of one delayhed chemo because of low blood count.  I will start Taxol and Herceptin in three weeks.  Taxol weekly for twelve weeks and Herceptin every three weeks for one year.  Can anyone tell me how long the Taxol and Herceptin treatments take?  I am used to about 2 to 3 hours for AC.  Thanks for any help you can give me. My husband will be with a mission group in the southern part of the country for my first treatment so I will need to get someone else to take me.  Kathy

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2009

    I am getting dose dense Taxol and my infusion takes about 5 hours.  I don't know what it would be for weekly Taxol as I go every two weeks

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2009

    Ladies....

    I now know what chemopause is all about Yell  I wake up no less than 3 times in the middle of the night drenching with sweat and I do mean drenching to where you could scrap it off my neck and chest area.

    I am also getting major hot flashes during the day also.  My temperature in my bedroom is about 40 degrees at night and I am still waking up all sweaty.

    I sure hope this doesn't last for too long!

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Oh Jancie sorry you joined some of us with chemopause :(  It's horrible :(

  • Grace4me
    Grace4me Member Posts: 47
    edited May 2009

    Thank you all for your hugs and love....I had to  stop at 3 dose dense AC, I have taken 3 taxotere dose dense and tomorrow is my last one!!  MY dd bought me a new outfit and cookies for the staff at the infusion center, I am so amazed at the wonderful people God put into my life. A kind word and a hang in there goes a long way! I had to see my surgeon today for a follow up, I am not sure why he has not released me yet, but he wants to see me again in 6 months?? Apparently there is a nerve that runs right through the lymphnodes he removed and he thinks it may be what is causing my arm pain, but he also said that all of these aches and pains may go away after they quite throwing all these chemicals at me.......something else to look forward to.............just think we can now see the light at the end of this tunnell and its not a train this time!!

    Apple I am so sorry for you and your family,I have been praying. I know what you mean by over doing it.  One day I felt well enough to try to clean a  little, what a mistake..I was "down" for 3 days recovering and the house was a mess again in less then 2...I have 3 kids and 2 puppies.

    I love you all and keep in mind that this to shall pass and we will survive!

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Quick note, I'm still at the clinic but......

    THEY CANCELLED MY CHEMO  for today, UGH

    All because of this stupid mouth sore, I've never heard of cancelling because of a mouth sore.  ONE mouth sore.  She said if I got Taxol today, I could end up with a whole bunch of sores, and would be miserable; so she wrote a scrip for Magic Mouthwash, and is sending me home.

    This pushes me to June 23rd; my Silver Anniversary is June 29th, was gonna have a HUGE party to celebrate chemo ending/anniv.  Personally, I would have had the chemo today, along with the mouthwash I would think it would be ok. 

    I'll get back with ya'll when I get home.

    Hugs

    Judy

  • MRSROCKYTOP55
    MRSROCKYTOP55 Member Posts: 403
    edited May 2009

    Janice, thanks so much for your reply.  Maybe I will hear from some weekly does Taxol buddies.  God Bless, kathy

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited May 2009

    Judy-Sorry they had to postpone, but maybe they know what is right? We'll hope that is the case.

    Jancie-Here here on the hotflashes.  Mine started about a couple weeks after my last chemo and they are with me every single night.  Sometimes when I take an ativan and keep it cool in my room it helps a little, or keep a little fan blowing on you all night.  Also finding that high carb foods do NOT help, so I am going to try and go carb-less as much as I can from now on. There goes my M&M's.

    So supposedly my nausea is from the rads. Just lovely. Never ends.

    Apple-sorry for your loss... again.  You need a break.

    Hoping everyone is hanging in there.

    Sue

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Oh Judy I would be upset.  Magic mouthwash didn't do crap for me but numb the mouth.  Malox helped clear it up quickly I am not sure why I didn't post that sooner, 

    I had my PS appt. today and I am set to go besides my pre-op appt. and testing.  I am very excited about getting to my exchange.  It is still a ways off but I guess it is something to look forward to.  Then I am running away on a vacation if I am approved by nephrologist. 

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    OK, what is a nephrologist...?

    Judy - Oh, I am so sorry, that really sucks. They do seem to like to delay things in your Clinic. BUT, you will have a huge party on the 29th. Whoohoo. 25 years married, that is so great! We are just coming up to 10.

    Sue - happy to hear from you. How is the hair growing?? Hope the nausea leaves, that is no fun. Thought you are not supposed to get sick with Rads....

    I'm getting hotflashes too. Mine will last a long time - once I have my ooph I will be in menopause. I'm more worried about my sex drive though, hope I don't lose that....

    Feeling OK today, I've still got pain, in my toes too now of all places. the kids and i were outside all afternoon, it has been lovely here today. I'm feeling just about ready for bed though. 

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Nephrologist is a Kidney doctor :)  Who is not bad on the eyes ;)

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Kathy:  I get weekly Taxol, the actual drip time of the Taxol is one hour, but with 3 premeds, they schedule me for 2 1/2 hours total time.

    Judy

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Jaimie:  I like your new pic, you look great!  I can't wait to get my foobs, it will be at least the end of July before I get started on expanders.  I hope the mouthwash works, if not, how did you use the Maalox?  Swish it, drink it?  I wonder why maalox works, I know it's in the magic mouthwash, too.

    Suzanne:  Well, chihuahua's aren't very easy to train.  We have 3 chihuahua's, ages 4, 3 and 2, and although 2 of them let me know when they want to go out, the third one has to be carried to the door each time.  And all 3 of them pee all over the house anyway.  They drive me nuts!  I've always owned yorkies (I have one yorkie, too), and they train wonderfully.  The chihuahua's are actually my DD's, and will move out some day (can't wait)!

    Helen:  I don't know what it is with the Taxol, it could be the extra steroids they give, but I am always hungry!  Since they've lowered my steroids, the hunger isn't as bad.  And I've lost 3 lbs this last week (less hungry/mouth sore).

    Jancie:  oh, I HATE the hot flashes!  Wake me up every night, come and go during the day.  I wonder if I will stay in menopause, I probably had a few years left, but was still very regular before chemo.  My doc said no unprotected sex for 18 months, because your period can still return after all that time. 

    Kerry:  My big toes hurt most of the time, for about 2 weeks now.  It is worse if I am on my feet alot.  Weird side effect, really. 

    I worry missing another tx, if it will make the chemo less effective.  It is the 2nd taxol they've postponed now.  She didn't even hesitate, as soon as she saw the sore, she said no tx today.  Totally took me by surprise, I'm gonna go search and see if anyone else has had their doc do this. 

    Hugs to all

    Judy

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Judy I just swish the malox and then spit it out.  I'm not sure why it works but it did and I was thrilled.  Thanks for the compliment on my foobies :)  I went out once i had my final fill and bought 3 bathing suits for summer :)  The one that I have on in the picture also hides my port so I love it :)

    I am feeling better today and I got a lot done. 

  • xpectmiracles
    xpectmiracles Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2009

    Judy, is that really you in the avatar picture? You look so young! Also, have you been able to eat because of the sore? I know you say it's real painful.

  • MRSROCKYTOP55
    MRSROCKYTOP55 Member Posts: 403
    edited May 2009

    Judy, Thanks for the info.  I will be havng Herceptin also every three weeks so will need to add time for that.  It sure is a long journey, but we can get through it. God Bless, Kathy

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Jaimie:  I have no idea how I'm going to wear swimsuit/tank tops this summer.  I never got a real prosthesis, just have some foam ones in my bra, which is very uncomfortable and hot.  I need to find some cheap inserts for a bathing suit, but am worried it will look weird.  You are so lucky to have it done already; they were supposed to do immediate reconstruction on me, but then couldn't because they thought they'd have to remove some muscle during surgery (which they didn't have to do, could've had the recon after all)

    Cheryl:  yeah, that's me.  Thanks, but I look much older up close, although my students always guess that I'm in my 30's (too funny, but not really a compliment since they think 30 is old anyway).  It has been sooo hard to eat with this sore, so I did end up losing 3 lbs this week.  Which is fine since I put on almost 10 lbs in the last month. 

    Kathy:  No problem, do they add the Herceptin in with the Taxol, or is it given separately?  I swear, between the blood work, dr. appt and chemo, I am always there at least 5 hours anyway, they're so slow!  That's great that you got through AC with little problems, it was awful for me!  Taxol should be even easier.

    Judy

  • Bethie1
    Bethie1 Member Posts: 393
    edited May 2009

    Steroid rage TOO FUNNY!!! I should've used that to kick my boyfriend out, but didn't have the guts to.  He was good to me for the longest time, then this past year or so, he'd do things without me after I helped get him a car, etc. I'm happier now, and less stressed, as I was walking on eggshells wondering what mood he'd be in coming into house every night!! NOT GOOD!! I finally woke up, and my brothers helped me get him out of house

    WEBBIE!!  Welcome back girl!! I missed ya!!!  Tomorrow is my 2nd to last chemo YEAH!!  I feel much better with the arthritic feeling.  The benadryl issue is over as I'm taking 25 mg twice within 1 hour, and taking it that way knocks me out so I sleep like a log.

    Hope everyone is still doing good.  I most likely won't be on this weekend, have family coming in from out of town--my sister from NC whose the new grandma.  The baby is now 3 months and SOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE!!!

  • NanaA
    NanaA Member Posts: 293
    edited May 2009

    susan13 -  this is nanaA from the march group.  I got steroid induced diabetes during chemo.  They sent me to a dietician who warned me against too little carbs.  Your liver tries to produce the sugar if you do not have enough and your liver is what is cleaning out the chemo, you do not want it working any harder than it needs to.  You need to have 40- 45 carbs per meal 3 time a day and can have 1 15 carb snack.  This is for a 1400 - 1500 calorie diet.  Fresh fruit except apple and bananas are about 15 per 3/4 cup or one peach, etc.  Vegetable are usually about 5 per serving unless they are starches like potatoes or corn.  Bread, buns, popcorn, etc you can find on the package.  Cereal for breakfast is on the box.  I usually have a bowl of cereal with fruit in it, or plain cereal and a bowl of fruit.  The only days I have had to give myself shots is Tuesday which is chemo day and take 5 tablets of dex at bedtime and 5 more again in the morning and then they put more in the iv.  Watching what I eat has also helped me lose 20 lbs since this started.

    MrsRockytop55  - I am doing the weekly taxol.  Finished # 7 today.  I go in at 8:30 and have labs drawn and wait and hour for them to get back.  If they are ok they order the prescription for all the meds up from the pharmacy downstairs and usually start them by 9:50 or 10 done by 1 or so if only taxol add another hour for herceptin.  Add much longer for 1st two treatments because they give them at a much slower rate the first two times to make sure there is no reaction.  I get two bags of premeds.  dex and zofran and benedryl.  Benedryl given too fast can give you restless legs.  The only Se that has been major for me is the numbness and tingling in hands and toes.  We are watching.  They told me that I am the one who decides on what is enough.  I ask myself each week if this is permanent at this stage can I live with it.  So far I can.  I would like to get thru at least 10 if not all 12, but herceptin is the reason I am on chemo.  They do not give it normally without chemo to start.  I want to get far enough so that I can continue on with the herceptin even if I have to give up on the taxol.  Day 5 i usually crash with fatigue.  I really think it may be a steroid let down along with the chemo and the fact when you are high with the steroids you don't rest as much as you should.  If you have more  questions I could answer let me know.

    Annette  

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Just a quick hello to everyone. Not much to report, I am feeling a bit better every day. Right now the fact that it is my last time going through is feeling pretty great.

    I haven't even thought of the swimsuit issue, I too, just have one of those foam inserts still. Was told not to get fitted for anything until after Rads. Can you swim even, after Rads??

    Enjoy your day everyone

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Kerry:  I had rads during the summer, and i went swimming during rads.  Doc told me to use lots of sunscreen in the area being treated.  My skin did very well during rads, though, so I suppose someone who was having problems with their skin may not want to go swimming or out in the sun.  Also, we have a pool, and I'm not sure you'd want to go in a lake where the water isn't clean.

    omg, I got practically no sleep last night, the mouth sore was at its worst, kept waking up in pain....hot flashes and hubby snoring finally did me in, so I got up at 5am to go sleep on couch--but DD and her fiance were up, she wasn't feeling well, so I gave up.  I think I got like 3 hours of sleep, and have a day full of appointments ahead of me.  Sooooo tired.

    At least it's going to be  a nice day here, sunny and warm!

    Jud

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Oh, Judy, I'm sorry today has not started out well. I always feel terrible when I can't get sleep. My Hot flashes are waking me up too - never thought I would be getting them at my age. Sigh.

    I am hoping my skin holds up well too - is there a connection between rads burns and normal sunburn do you think? I don't get sunburnt easily so I am hoping that means I won't have too much trouble with radiation burns.....I think you are right about swimming in the lake, it could be dirty. I will ask if i need to be careful with swimming and sun on that area. I just hope rads don't give me LE, that arm has so far given me no trouble. 

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited May 2009

    Kerry, I sunburn very easily, so I don't think there is a connection.  I did use cocoa butter and RadX cream daily, and my skin did not burn.  Some light redness, but no pain/blisters/peeling, etc.  On the days I was red, I would just throw a t-shirt over my bathing suit to swim in.

    Just a note, in my own pool, I do not keep the chlorine level too high, but I know chlorine can be drying, and some public pools keep it very high.  High levels of chlorine wouldn't be a good idea.  

    I would see what your rad onc thinks about swimming, though.  Who knows if things have changed since 2004.

    Judy

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited May 2009

    Well, I will ask! It will be like learning a whole new set of rules, just when I got chemo figured out. 

    I am not a huge fan of lake swimming, to tell you the truth. I will do it if it is really hot, but I don't love it. I grew up right on the ocean, swimming to me was always in the sea. I don't mind swimming in the Great Lakes, cos it is like the Ocean! But splashing about in shallow, silty, weedy lakes is no fun. It is funny, as my son is the same. My daughter on the other hand is a little fish. She loves the water, we can never get her to come out. My son and I always sit on the shore playing in the sand, while my husband and daughter are in the water!

  • Jaimieh
    Jaimieh Member Posts: 2,373
    edited May 2009

    Okay I woke up this morning with mouth sores :(  Which means I was running a fever sometime yesterday.  Gotta start the malox rinse again....  

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