Is swelling, hardness and redness normal 3 weeks after surgery?

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ArtTeacherEs
ArtTeacherEs Member Posts: 5

Could someone please help me? I don't want to call the Drs. office again.  It has been 3 weeks since my surgery, partial mastectomy, and my appt. with the Dr. isn't for another week. The last few days the swelling has increased with hardness and redness.  Should I apply moist heat or ice?  Is this normal? I was told by an oncologist that it is built up fluid and I did not have a drain.

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  • sherry64
    sherry64 Member Posts: 184
    edited May 2009

    It really sounds like you need to call your surgeon.  Increased swelling, hardness and redness aren't normal.  Don't be afraid of your doctor or his/her staff.  Your symptoms definitely warrant an immediate call.

    Sherry

  • rsdsboys
    rsdsboys Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2009

    I did not experience that after my lumectomy.  I call my drs nurse all the time and she contacts the dr for me usuallly.  I would give them a call to make sure.  Why sit and worry about it.  That is their job and my nurse never seems annoyed with my call.  Good Luck

  • pitanga
    pitanga Member Posts: 596
    edited May 2009

    I agree with Sherry and rsdsboys. You definitely should call your doctor. the normal thing is for swelling and redness to DECEASE with time after surgery. If you are experiencing an increase it could be that you are getting an infection. Dont try to second-guess using the internet, have a doctor look at it.

    Lisa

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited May 2009

    How are you doing, ArtTeacher? Thinking of you, and hoping you've gotten some answers from your docs.

    Be well!
    Binney

  • pj12
    pj12 Member Posts: 25,402
    edited May 2009

    I hope by now you have seen your doctor and all is well.  I had a similar experience.  At 3 weeks I was telling everyone my lumpectomy breast was swollen, warmer, and hard.  Everyone said it looked fine.  Suddenly big red splotches appeared and it became an emergency.  $200 of antibiotics for two weeks took care of it but it would have been better if treated earlier.  Speak up and voice your concerns.  I was too hesitant to complain.  

  • GloDee
    GloDee Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2009

    Your experience sounds exactly like mine.  I went back to my doctor today after calling his office several times.  I went to have the fluid drained that the nurse said was there.  Doctor did drain, but said there was "no fluid".  I still don't understand what is happening to me and haven't talked to anyone who has had pain this long.  My tumor was "almost against the chest wall" he has said.  That might explain why more pain.  Someone out there help both of us understand.

  • GloDee
    GloDee Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2009

    pj102345,

    Did you walk around holding your breast because just the slightest bounce/jiggle hurt really bad?  I can hardly ride in a car my breast is so sore.  See the note I posted to Art Teacher just a few minutes ago.  I am 3 weeks post op, have swelling, redness, pain.  How long did it take you to get basically pain free and feeling better?

  • ArtTeacherEs
    ArtTeacherEs Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2009

    The pain with bouncing, especially while driving has improved, however, I do wear extra support with a spandex tank shirt. My breast is still swollen with a hardness the size of a small egg. It is also red and discolored. I went to the doctor on Monday, she said to apply moist hot compresses 3 times a day for 20 minutes and she wants to see me next week again. She "thinks" it's a hematoma with fluid surrounding it. It is still painful and hoping the swelling will go down, as of today, still the same. It has been 4 weeks since my surgery and without a bra I looked deformed because of the swelling. I guess I'm just grateful the cancer is out, so putting up with swelling and pain is a small price to pay. Hang in there!  :)

  • ArtTeacherEs
    ArtTeacherEs Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2009

    How long did it take till it looked somewhat normal? And did you have pain?

  • ArtTeacherEs
    ArtTeacherEs Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2009

    Hi pj102345, How long did it take before it looked somewhat normal? Thanks for answering!  :)

  • GloDee
    GloDee Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2009

    ArtTeacher, Thanks for sharing your experience.   Doctor did not give me any instructions yesterday except an rx for Toradol and to "do only what you feel like doing."  Well, if you have to hold your breast to even move or walk and cannot stand to have fabric touch your breast, it's pretty difficult to do much of anything!  I want to know "why" this is going on almost 4 weeks later when it sounds like most people are moving on.  I've got to "get well" before I can start other therapy.  Anyone, if you have experienced this, please let me hear from you.

  • GloDee
    GloDee Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2009

    ArtTeacherEs:  How are you doing?  We were having the same postop problems and some of mine are just beginning to resolve and my surgery was April 20.  Swelling is almost gone, redness gone, but sensitivity and numbness still very much here.  Still having problem wearing clothing on that side.  Is this normal, anyone?

  • ArtTeacherEs
    ArtTeacherEs Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2009

    Hi GloDee,  My surgery was on April 14th and I still have swelling with redness. However, this week the Dr. did removed 60cc of seroma. She said that it is very common and that it will probably come back, which it has in just a couple of days, but still using hot compresses 3 times a day. I don't have any numbness and wearing clothing is ok. Did you have a drain?

  • rinna40
    rinna40 Member Posts: 357
    edited May 2009

    Ladies, I just found this tread

    I don't think this is normal, but does happen. I am writing to tell you to keep advocating for yourself. I had swelling after a re-incision a month after my lumpectomy. I told my gp and onc about the swelling and a swishing sound that I could hear. They seemed to think that it was normal as well. Unfortunately for me, my incision site was not strong enough to withstand the pressure of the swelling and my incision openned up. A lot of fluid  came out ( it was what I call my ER moment, with nurses trying to sop up the fluid. I went through five weeks of home care, where the nurses packed the wound daily. At this point my gp finally looked at the wound and said that it would talk at least another month to heal. Because I was waiting for this to heal so I could start chemo, he orgaized for my surgeon to do a secondary close on the wound. I wish my story would be over at that point, but the cavity has again begun to fill. I hear the swishing sound again. I went for a mamogram on my other breast just today. Because there was some suspicious spots under the nipple, I ended up having an ultrasound done by a doctor (she told me there was nothing to worry about on my right breast - yeah). I asked if she could just look at my left breast even though there was no order for that because of the swelling (squeaky wheel gets the grease), and she did. She agreed with me that there was too much fluid and decided to drain it. I am so relieved, because we were heading into the weekend, and I didn't want to worry about this all weekend. My end thought is that I don't know what can be done to end this problem. I don't know if the swelling definitely means infection, but I do feel that they need to drain the fluid and continue to test it for infection. We need to advocate for ourselves. We know what feels normal and what doesn't. I had no problems after my lumpectomy - I went back to work in a week, and went on a family holiday in three weeks. That was normal. Keep pestering those doctors!!!!!!!! 

  • oceanblue
    oceanblue Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2009

    Yes, I the same thing happen to me.  I have had 2 surgeries. The first time around I had a drain inserted & I did not have any problems. With the 2nd surgery, I had swelling & redness and upon going in to have my radiation markings, the Dr. indicated I had fluid in my left breast! I thought the swelling & redness was normal. Please see your Dr. and have this fluid drained! I had to have my drained 2 x!

  • oceanblue
    oceanblue Member Posts: 4
    edited May 2009

    I had this same problem! My Dr - a Breast Cancer Surgeon has been very proactive and very sympathetic to my needs. I had swelling & fluid build up and my Radiologist sent a note to my Dr and he was immediatly on it. My surgeon indicated to me that although it may heal on its own (meanwhile leaving me with pain & discomfort) he did not feel I should have to endure that!  He immediatly had it drained. He checked me again the following week and again- drained my left breat using an ultra sound to guide him. Each time after having my breat drained, I felt such a relief & it was a simple procedure. It also speed up the healing process.

  • rinna40
    rinna40 Member Posts: 357
    edited May 2009

    oceanblue: this may seem like a bit of a gross question, but when they drained the breast was it clear or dark red? I was just wondering if you had a seroma or a hematoma? (excuse the spelling if I spelt it wrong) Mine was dark red, and I was wondering if that would indicate an infection. I plan on seeing my gp tomorrow and ask if I can have it drained again this week, as I start chemo next monday, and I hope to not have to deal with this too much longer.

  • mlb1909
    mlb1909 Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2009

    Glad I found this discussion.  I had a lumpectomy in early March and then underwent the mammosite catheter insertion.   It had to be removed and another radiation catheter inserted and am now in my fourth course of antibiotics.   My surgeon has removed fluid multiple times (3+) and in each case, depending on where we were in the infection resolution, the fluid went from clear and yellowish (just excess fluid build up) which immediately relieved pain, to dark yellow (beginning of the infection) to very dark orangish (height of the infection even with antibiotics).  No red- so I can't help there.  I have called my surgeon every time and they are very helpful, so don't hesitate.   

    I am, however, very tired of the ongoing infection and am concerned that my next step is in-hospital intrevenous antibiotics.    Any one ever had this type of persistent lumpectomy infection that just won't quit?

  • rinna40
    rinna40 Member Posts: 357
    edited May 2009

    mlb:

    I am so sorry for your fight with infection. Are you waiting for this to resolve so that you can start chemo, or is chemo not in the pictrure for you? I talked to my gp today and he said dark red was good, because it is only old blood. He did ask if it looked like a rose wine, so I guess thats your dark orangish. He was pleased that it wasn't that colour.  Maybe the best thing for you would be an IV antibiotic to finally kick this thing. My thoughts are with you.

  • mlb1909
    mlb1909 Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2009

    Rinna,

    Thanks for the good thoughts.   Saw my doctor yesterday and she says the infection looks better, but these things do take a while to resolve.   Word was to be patient.   I was very lucky not to need chemo, so good luck with yours.   My thoughts with you also.

    MLB

  • phaila
    phaila Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2016

    I have had breast redness since 1 week after my partial mastectomy. That was January 20. There is no pain or hardness or fever. Was anyone's breast red (more of a pink) for a while afterwards? My dr have me antibiotics but it hasn't cleared it up. Said I can't get chemo port until it's all gon

  • Skittlegirl
    Skittlegirl Member Posts: 428
    edited March 2016

    I had some redness around my drain site about a week after my surgery. My surgeon gave me antibiotics and it was looking better the next week.

  • Msmail98
    Msmail98 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2018

    I'm had a lumpectomy a month ago with 2 lymph nodes removed. I still have redness and swelling and develop a rash. My ONC put me in antibiotics 5 days ago. Also have a itchy rash patch in my side. Been taking antibiotics benadryl and using cortisone cream. Breast rash looking better but side rash still itches a lot. Has anyone ever experienced or heard of this?

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited December 2018

    Did your onc look at both rashes? It sounds as though the one on your side may not be particularly responsive to antibiotics. It would be a good idea to have someone (surgeon, onc, primary care) take another looksee.

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