Skin stuck to chest after Mastectomy

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Gez052
Gez052 Member Posts: 27

I had my left breast removed a month ago but my chest is still very tight. It feels as if the skin is adhering to the chest wall. I try to do big breaths and rotate my shoulders often. And I know it's still early days and things should improve.

Is there anyone out there who has been through this sensation and found it gradually improved? Are there things I should be doing to increase flexibility?

 Thanks in advance for your thougths

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  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Massaging cream into it daily would help....it did for me.Laughing

  • TexasRose
    TexasRose Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2009

    I'm having this same problem two weeks out from surgery. My appt with PT isn't until 5/5. I think they could have scheduled that one a little sooner after surgery myself!

    Barbe- do you mean just regular lotion?

  • sg8535937
    sg8535937 Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2009

    Hello,

    I had the same problem I was given a book with some exercises to do like walking my fingers up the wall and doing stretches. Massaging the area with some cocco butter may also help. The excercise book is from the cancer society. Hope this helps.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    I would gently massage the area to start breaking up any scar tissue that is trying to develop.  Very gently!  Also, there are some post-mastectomy exercises that the others have recommended that should help as well.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited April 2009

    It feels as if the skin is stuck to your chest wall because that's what has happened.

    The surgeon cuts underneath the skin and scrapes out the breast tissue, and then lays the skin back down over the chest muscles and ribs.  The body reacts to that tissue damage by creating "adhesions" (scar tissue) to connect those two layers and eliminate the space. 

    There normally is "loose" connective tissue between skin and muscle or skin and bone, which allows the skin to slide.  (Check this out on the other side of your chest, or anywhere else where there is skin lying over bone or muscle.)

    Stretching exercises and massage are designed to help loosen those "adhesions" and replace the stiff scar tissue in there with the normal "loose" tissue.  I found that you not only have to inhale (take deep breaths), but exhale and scrunch your chest wall (rib cage) inward.  You can even take your fingers and gently move the skin around at that point, encouraging release of the adhesions.

    The best thing to do, though, is get a referral to a physical therapist--preferably one who is trained and experienced with treating breast cancer patients.  (You should try to get a therapist who is certified for LE therapy, just in case.)  The therapist will teach you exercises and treatments that will help to "release" those adhesions.

    As Madalyn said, the lotion itself will not change those adhesions--what works is the process of moving the skin around (gently!) to massage it in. 

    otter

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Well said otter, that's why I didn't even put my type of lotion in the post. Massage! I even bought a cute little massager from WalMart that has big/little feet that light up and vibrate gently. I would sit and watch TV with it on my chest moving it around. It helped for my itchiness too!

  • Gez052
    Gez052 Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2009

    Thanks everyone.

    I needed some reassurance that I wasnt the only one with adhesions. And more importantly, that they dont last forever. I'm using this stuff called Bio Oil at the moment. Its supposed to soften scar tissue ... wish it would hurry up. And I may have been a little heavy handed with the massage. I like the idea of the mini massager though Barbe - might give that a try

    Geraldine xxxx

  • sjohns2009
    sjohns2009 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2009

    2 weeks post surgery today - the nipples are stuck to the chest while the skin is folding over them.  Should I massage the nipples themselves to get them unstuck?

  • dollysmom
    dollysmom Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2009

    Dear sjohns2009,

    I am only 4 weeks post op today. When I read your post about 10 days ago my heart went out to you. I told my husband about your post and we think of you often wondering how you are doing and I pray for you daily. 

    I was having some of the same issues when I read your post and I had no idea what to say to you. Since then I have researched a bit and and I have found that massage of the skin,and  scar tissue is the long term answer . massage massage massage, not just the nipples but the whole chest I am told , for about a year at least, I use some vitamin E lotion to help my fingers slide across my skin. other lotions absorb and you have to reapply , when you touch your chest the scar tissue is the hard feeling bands that seem so tight and feel like your breathing is constricted. I felt like I had a super tight under wire bra on, and it was hard to take a deep breath. My PS said if you massage 24/7 you have a good start. I began massaging all the time ( except when I was at work, that might be distracting, ) I stretch at least once an hour taking deep breaths and holding it , pushing my chest out and holding it. After 4 days off and a commitment to stretch, & massage 24/7 I had noticeable improvement, my PS was very pleased. Thursday I have an appointment with my masseuse to work on the scar tissue because my fingers get tired. 

    What you describe is actually what happened, the skin is stuck to your chest. As the body heals it constructs little spider web like structures to help hold your body together. If we do nothing about it , the scar tissue can be come very very thick and hard. Massaging helps break down the the little (webs) and restores the more normal feeling. I hope this helps, hang in there, we are not defined by our bodies but who we are in side, how we think and treat others. and how we treat ourselves. My daughter is getting married Saturday, I have a beautiful dress I will wear, I will celebrate and thank God that I am alive to be there.

    Take care.

    Dolly's mom ( Dolly is my Clydesdale)

  • ausgirl73
    ausgirl73 Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2010

    hi geraldine i am 7 weeks out of my right breast mast and have had 2 sessions of chemo 4 to go i have them every 21 days i still have a very stuck scar under my armpit due to overdoing phsyio and torn my chest muscles off my chest wall so i have had a set back but i rub Bio Oil in to the site every day all the time and it seems to be working i have a bit of movement considering i had none

    you say you use a massarger as well can you email me and tell me what one it is pls 

    i am also interested in any info on chemo help with the sick ness it is yuk lol

    i am 37 and had a lump 5 cm 0/20 nodes stage IIIa ????

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited May 2010

    Not just you Geraldine, and mine was getting a lot better 2 months after surgery. Then i started rads and sorry but I have to warn you it has got worse again towards the end of this, and right now my skin is a bit too tender to be messing and pulling it around like i was before. The problems I had at one month lifting my arm fully, which I just had sorted in time to starts rads, is also coming back this week. Boo. But as soon as I can, I will be chasing for physio referral cos I'm getting fed up with it like this, i want to be fit to get back to work soon. Sometimes it's so hard to say "I need help". Stick with your exercises Geraldine, and I was told take the painkilers if you need them in order to keep stretching. Good luck

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited May 2010
    ausgirl73, If your nodes are clear, how come are you stage 3a? I thought that meant you had positive node involvement? And if yours are okay, why are they making you do chemo? Glad the bio-oil is helping you, my friend said it helped her too.
  • lisa-e
    lisa-e Member Posts: 819
    edited May 2010

    It has been over a year since my BMX, in fact, almost two years.  I had a lot of adhesions so went to physical therapy and stretched a lot.   I also do self massage and get regular massages, which include work on my scars.  At this point, when every I slack off on the stretching and massages, my scars feel tight and uncomfortable, even though my range of motion is normal.  

    I've been told or read that it takes two years for scar tissue to fully mature. 

  • ChandraS
    ChandraS Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2013

    Hi, 

    My mom had a radical mastectomy on Dec. 10, 2012, and had lymph nodes removed as well. (it was a stage 3a cancer). The surgeon had said to do exerise till she gets full range of motion, which she did after the first 15 days in January. She then did not do the exercises. Her chemo subsequently began in the end of January, and was 8 sessions. In April she started exercising again. About a month ago she started experiencing tightness in the surgical area. The Last couple of weeks it has turned into an excruciating discomfort. 

    These are the things she is describing: 

    -The tightness is like an iron bra that is pulling and tightening where the mastectomy happened

    -The tightness has recently spread to the underarm (armpit) area

    -It feels like the skin is sticking and pressing against the chest wall, and the ribs. Almost as if its constricting her lungs. 

    -She also feels like the muscles are contracting in that area, and feels like there is a rock under the skin, and everything is a frozen block. 

    She is on round the clock pain killers to handle the discomfort (excrutiating discomfort not "pain"). She was on Percocet to manage it before, but it stopped being effective. She is now on Dilaudid. 

    The pain doctors at stanford have felt that it is potentially a nerve issue, and prescribed neurontin and desiprimine. The pain doctors at UCSF feel its more of a muscular issue. So she has also just recently started physical therapy. 

    Dolly's mom and Otter, My mom had come across your posts, and it really struck a cord with the symptoms she is experiencing. None of the doctors have talked in depth about it being scar tissue adhesions. But it sounds like it can definitely be that, with maybe a combination of muscles issues. We just feel so frustrated and helpless, since we arent getting any clear answers. 

    Though her tightness and pressure began 4 months after the surgery. Did you guys also have to take pain killers? Also after how many sessions generally should she start feeling some result of the physical therapy? We arent sure if who we have is good/the right one. 

    The UCSF pain doctor also recommended trigger point injections, and if that works then botox shots, to relax those muscles. Thoughts? 

    Her radiation just started this week as well, so she cannot undergo any procedures with injections till after it is over. We are worried, because radiation is just suppose to increase the tightness, and she is already starting in such a bad condition! 

    PLEASE HELP!

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited June 2013

    I am 4 months post exchange and also have adhesions. Today my chest is flaming red and hot because 2 nights ago I tried to work out some of the adhesions with massage. I'm PRAYING I am not having an infection. My scars are adhered to my implants on both sides. I need to go see PS but I have SO many medical appointments that I literally couldn not take another half day off from work. I plan to call PS tomorrow if I am still all red.

  • June-Rose
    June-Rose Member Posts: 7
    edited January 2014

    hi Maria

    I have only just read your post, and hope you are feeling ok, and the adhesions are improving now.  I see you were troubled by infection and I just wanted to tell you my experience over the past 2 years.  

    I was diagnosed with carcinoma right breast T1, grade 3, January 2012.  Went for skin sparing double mastectomy Feb 2012.  Chemotherapy March 2012 for 4 sessions (TC).   Implants November 2012.  I had nothing but trouble with the implants.  I felt like I had wire cutting in around the base of the breasts, and this sensation worsened as the day progressed.  I had two episodes of cellulitis and had to go to hospital for drip antibiotics for a week each time.  In September 2013 my PS decided to take out the implants and said I'd probably feel much better without them.  But the pain continues, and it is still hard to sleep comfortably at night on my side and uncomfortable wearing bra and prosthetics.  The scars are awful and have stuck to the chest wall.  I have excess skin and flesh hanging from above and below the scars, and am hing the PS can do something about that, but he's waiting to ensure there is no infection before another surgery.  I am resistant to a lot of antibiotics.  

    The infections scare me, and am loath to use any cream or oil in case it sets up another one.

    Please let me know how you are finding the implants.

  • LeeAllen09
    LeeAllen09 Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2017

    just wondering how you are doing now that it’s been a few years. Mine is stuck also n has not gotten any better, plus my pec muscle is trapped in the armpit area and I can’t raise my arm up like a normal person and in trying to raise it up to the side it doesn’t even go up to shoulder level. Surgeons say they have never seen this before. I went to an ortho dr. Who told my PT therapist he had never seen one as bad as mine!

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