Starting Chemo April 2009
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Hi! I am new to this site so if I don't know all the terms bear with me. I started my chemotherapy two weeks ago. My first round of chemo is hercptin once per week and tykerb daily, plus femara daily. My DX was on March 24th, IDC, 2.6 cm, Stage 2, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2+ and have three additional lesions that are around stage 1 - 2. I should be finished with this round of chemo July 7th and then will have a mastectomy. Then I will start with what my oncologist likes to refer to as the "real chemotherapy". Gosh for the most part I don't even feel like I have cancer. I don't have too many side effects from the herceptin or tykerb. Sometimes I dont even feel like I have cancer and the way some of the people I work with act, you would think it was completely unallowable to be away from work for feeling like crud after I have the chemo. Ah, I guess I am just a bit exasperated from the whole ordeal. It all happened so fast and it's been hard keeping up with it all. Plus I have a twenty one month old son who is like a force of nature to deal with, so you can about imagine eveything. I am glad to find a place to vent and share. Thanks so much for this and anyone who is taking herceptin or tykerb let me know how your reactions have been to it. Much love~~Nyelene
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Anyone have any issues with swelling near the port following a treatment? I'm noticing that near the shoulder and port area, it's very tender, achy and kind of annoyed feeling. I don't want to call the onc on the weekend (don't want to end up in the ER again on a sunday), but don't know if it's normal or not?
Otherwise, besides the groggyness-fog and some mild heartburn, starting neck tenderness, that seems to be it for the SEs. Maybe it won't be so bad once I get through tomorrow.
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tx call i am in houston also. where are you getting treatment at? i go to baylor college of medicine weekly. let me know if there is anything i can do to help.
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My hair is starting to fall out--17 days after my first treatment. My plan is to shave my head later today. I am not too excited about this but I also don't want chunks of hair falling out either. I know this is something I have to get through. I can do this. At least I am feeling better and I could eat today. Talk to you later.
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Just an update from me...had first dose dense of A/C on Wed, and am FINALLY feeling a tad "normal"(?)!! Wow...that crap really knocked me on my butt! Had the decadron IV, took the Emend, had Zofran for home, and still needed iv fluids Thur and Fri! Fri they gave me Kytril, Ativan and Nexium, along with a compazine supp, which finally seemed to do it(I thought!). Yesterday, I ended up calling again, and they told me to stay on the Kytril, and also use the zofran. This am, feeling a bit better, but still that boarderline crap feeling. I must say...this "invincible" woman was not prepared!
But....1 A/C down...3 to go!
Hope everyone is feeling good today, and thanks for listening!
Vic
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Hi - another April chemo beginner here. I have stage IIa estrogen +, HER2. Am getting TCH x 6 and then 11 more just herceptin and then radiation. And then tamoxifen. Whew.
Did the first TCH 10 days ago. I wish I had found this forum before then. But it really went fine. The port was great to have (especially since it hurt so much after the surgery - but now I am glad I have it!), and everything went smoothly. No fatigue to speak of. A bit of heartburn/constipation/diarrhea that was a challenge but NO NAUSEA. Didn't even take the anti-nausea meds at all, and usually I am the WORLD'S BIGGEST PUKER for any reason. Weird, huh?
My concern is - a few days after the treatment, I began to break out on my face. This is not usual for me AT ALL. Was mostly on my forehead, but has gotten worse and worse every day since (this is day 11) so that now I am COVERED with bumps and pimples all around my hairline, around my ears, my jawline and chin, some on my cheeks, behind my ears, neck, some on chest, They really hurt. I called the onco nurse on Wed and mentioned when it wasn't quite so bad - she said it might be from the Herceptin and there was nothing you can do. Since then it has gotten worse each day and is painful and upsetting, even besides how hideous it makes me look. I am 51 and look like a pimply teen aged boy (no offense to the teenaged boys in the world - I feel sorry for them!). Has ANYBODY had anything like this happen, or heard of it? I have not read anything about it anywhere.
Help please!
And to all those who haven't started yet - TRY not to worry too much about the first time. I was convinced I would be projectile vomiting non stop and never even was queasy one time! I never stayed in bed, only napped one or two days at my mom's insistence. Walked my regular 2 mile loop every single day and am going to ask the doc if I can start running/training hard again. I hope he says yes!
Thank everyone in advance who can help me with the skin thing.
Amy
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I also have had my hair coming out in fairly large sections since yesterday (day 17 also for me TMD). I guess I'm handling it ok, plan on nursing it along until Tuesday when my hairdresser is back so she can buzz it. Probably bothering me a little more than I expected it to, but then again, I'm only human...right?
Hi Amy, sorry to have to welcome anyone to the group, but you are definitely going to get a lot of support and information here. I can understand being upset about the skin breakout - I am not on that regimen, but I'm sure someone else will come along who can give you some info. I agree that the first infusion for me was nothing like I had feared. Others have not been as fortunate, but we all are getting through it the best we can.
Vic: Glad you're feeling somewhat better - hopefully your next treatment you'll know what has worked for you so you can start it right away. I kept a daily journal so that this round (my 2nd A/C) I can anticipate the side effects and get a jump on them - my worst were heartburn and constipation, so will start my Zantac and colace on day 1.
Chelev: I'm sorry that you've had a bad time with your port - hopefully it's feeling better by now.
Nylene: I can't imagine working, chemo and having a 20 month old - boo to those people at work - we have to assume they just don't know!
I hope today is a good one for us all
Geri
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I had my first round of FEC on Thursday, and thanks to all the helpful tips here, have survived most S/E. I've had flushing with Decradon, minor nausea, minor heartburn, limited food tolerance, etc. I'm mostly sleeping, but when I am awake, I have horrendous headaches. I've had migraines that didn't feel this bad.
Has anyone else had an issue with bad headaches?
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Amylsstrong - this is NanaA from the March group. Same thing happened to me. It is either from the steroids or from the Herceptin. Dr, said benedryl would help. Mostly just treated it like a case of acne which is what it is. Keep face clean, etc. It has improved since it started. This will be week #6 of weekly taxol for me. with herceptin every 3rd week. The second round of herceptin did not have more of the breakout so maybe it just occurs the first time around, All I can tell you is that it does get better, but not totally gone. Hope this helps to know you were not only one this happened to. Annette
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Geri,
Sorry about the hair. You can make it till tuesday. (just don't touch it till then.)
Luckofthedraw, I had really bad headaches also. I am on TC I would check with your onco. They may be able to change one of the meds for you.
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Geri...Sorry bout the hair, too...hope you do OK til Tues. I am keeping a log, as I won't be caught "off guard" the next time...pre-med as much as I can for as many effects as I can ...along with that drink, drink, drink motto Im chanting!!
No way I'm going to get knocked back (as far) next time!
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Hi Ladies
Haven't logged on for a while and just caught up on how everyone has been feeling. I had my second AC last Tuesday and finally had to shave my head yesterday. I wasn't prepared for how bad my head hurt and had a lot of trouble sleeping last night. Still having residual headaches today. Losing the hair is harder than I thought it would be that is for sure. I am struggling everytime I look in the mirror. Mostly because I know it will be like this for another 16 weeks before the hair can even start growing back in. Really I have had some tiredness that past few days but for me the second treatment was easier than the first. I have slept more but at least my stomach hasn't felt like the last one. Half way through the hardest part is what I just keep trying to tell myself. Is anyone else having as much trouble from the Neulasta shot? That seems to be the worst for me with the bone pain. I have been able to continue working through the chemo but the day after the shot I am pretty much chair ridden due to the bone pain.
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Chevlev,
I would call your oncologist just to be on the safe side.
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Thanks for the support - I am not combing my hair until Tuesday - just kind of "patting" it gently to hold on to it until I can get buzzed.
.Stephanie, glad to hear your second treatment was easier. Hope I can say that after Thursday. I had bone pain after the Neulasta, but not for a full week after the shot, and then it only lasted for less than a day, and was not horrible - everyone seems to have such individual responses.
Geri
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.........??????Gals.... Does anyone know if your dosage changes throughout chemo, or if it remains steady from beginning to end? Also, are SEs cummulative, or is it typical that how you respond to the first tx is an indicator of how you will handle the rest? REALLY dying to know the answer to those two questions!!! Thanks!!! Tammy
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I thought I'd check in today. I had my husband shave my head. I had my second A/C treatment on Weds and the hair started falling out slowly that evening. By today, it was in big clumps and I was just tired of the hair everywhere. It was so hot here today that the shave was a nice idea.
I have almost 7 year old twin daughters who are having a tough time with the hair loss. They will be okay, but it's quite an adjustment for them. I don't have a wig, but will dig out some hats for school drop off tomorrow, for sure!
Other than the hair, I'm hopeful to start feeling a little more energetic tomorrow. I have been very tired this go around and would really like to have a bit more of my usual energy before I get hit from the Neulasta shot. I know for everyone it is different, but for me I really felt it on day 8! Funny how it's different for everyone, isn't it?
Pam -
I just had my husband shave my head about an hour ago. My hair started falling out on Friday so I had a few days to mentally prepare. It feels great. My son, daughter, best friend and her daughter joined me. My husband shaved my head in the yard and my 16 year old son held a bag to catch the hair. Before long several neighbors walked over and joined the shaving event. One neighbor gave me a beautiful hat box with a great hat inside. It was very liberating for me--I can't believe I feel this way because I was so up-tight about my hair. I did not cry or even feel like crying--I felt free! I felt loved and supported by my family and friends. I hope others have a positive experience too. Just think--this part is over--. I practiced putting on my wig and wearing it in front of folks--I am ready to go to work. I hope my high schoolers are as cool as my neighbors!
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Tammy - the onc nurse told me that there is a range on the dosages of chemo they give and depending on some of the the se's that you are having the onc may adjust the dosage within those ranges. They are watching the numbness and tingling in my toes from the taxol and this is one of the things she said he might adjust the dosage for. From what i have heard se's like fatigue are cumulative. Each week you have less reserves to draw upon. Other se's might not be the same. Hope this was some help. Sending hugs and wishes for a se free week to everyone. Annette
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Welcome to all our new friends...you have joined a great site and tons of support and love from everyone and wonderful advice.
Glad everyone is getting into the buzz. Sure is liberating. But keep in mind the hair still will come on out of the follicles. Mine has been working on getting on out for a few days...little pain but looks more like a porky pine, and rough. Tried everything and finally decided to get smart and now after some great advice on this forum, my head feels so much better and not so patchy.
SE's aren't to bad this time but now diarrhea has set in. Last time when this happened the effects of the Nuelasta shot kicked in the same time with severe bone and muscle craps while trying to go to the bathroom...Man did I have the toilet and floor rocking while in pain and trying to do my bathroom duty...sure hope it doesn't happen this way again. Over all just tired, seems when you want to nap, folks come over or neighbors decide to mow there lawns back and forth back and forth...ever wonder how many swipes it really takes to mow a lawn. When I get the energy to do that again I am sure going to think about it a little more.
Hope everyone is doing okay. My list got so long on ones I was concerned about...ports, SE's...you are all on my mind. Hope the weekend gets better for everyone...I thought today was Saturday. Hubby told me nope its Sunday...man where are the days going. Last treatment I was feeling somewhat better by Wednesday so looking forward to Wednesday coming up and hope things are back in the slow climb to the "honeymoon phase".
Lots of hugs and love to everyone...Keep smiling...we are getting through this together...step by step.
Nadine
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I decided to be completely pro-active about my hair. So I made an appt with my regular stylist. She was overcome with the fact that she just found out I had BC & when I told her my plan she totally misunderstood! I told her I wanted a short spikey do. Then in 2 wks when my hair starts falling out, I'll come back in & she'll shave it.
Well, she made me short all right. It has no style at all & is mostly shaved with spikes on top! It looks awful! Now I have to wear a wig or hat to my first chemo treatment!
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HelenNC, sorry to hear that you are having to go through bad hair days BEFORE chemo. It's not fair! The hair thing has been tough for me too, but since they told me it would fall out at 7 to 14 days past the first AC (which as 4-16), I shaved it off on day 8. I wore a wig the first day at work, everyone said it looked good, but at the end of the day the one person who didn't know about the BC asked me why I was wearing a wig. I guess it was more obvious than I thought. So anyway, I'm mostly done with the wig. The kids (11,10, 6 y.o. boys) prefer the wig, but most of the time it's caps from Hats with Heart. I dreaded going to church this morning in my chemo cap because there are just too many people there I haven't told, and ya know, people don't want to come up and ask if you have cancer-why else would I wear this hat? It was hard to see the honest, curious, (and some semi-horrified!) looks of the many children we know at Mass. Glad I got through this day. From now on, in public, I have cancer and am fighting it proudly! Love and blessings to all who post here. Mostly I've been reading and gathering info and wisdom from you all, and thanks to you all for your sharing the funny and the awful. My AC #2 is this Thursday. If it goes like AC #1, it will be OK.
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I have been following all of your comments, and getting lots of advice, but finally decided to join in. I had my first T/C on the 9th of April, and here I am on the 17th day, also picking clumps of hair off of my shoulders. I am hoping to hang onto it through tomorrow, when I will have my daughter come over and shave it off. I wish I would've thought to keep a journal of my SE's after my first treatment. I have my second treatment on Thursday, and am trying to remember what I should have on hand. I had terrible headaches, I couldn't keep anything down for two days, had constipation, and then diarrhea. I also had bone pain for a week after the Neulasta shot. I found that a heating pad, and Capsacin cream helped. I have also scheduled an appt. for Acupuncture for the day following the chemo. Has anyone out there tried it? Funny how all of our side effects seem to vary, but the losing of the hair time-line seems to be pretty much the same for us all!
Linda
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I had my first chemo on 4/10/09 and exactly 14 days from that date, my hair started coming out in small mini-chunks. I don't have much hair to begin with, but when my scalp itched and I scratched, it would come out under my nails. *ick*
Chemo session #2 is this Friday on 5/1. The hair really started coming out this weekend. Gentle tugs at tufts of hair will take it right out, with minimal effort. I was wearing wigs anyway because I had alopecia before this diagnosis where the hair on my sides and on the top of my head never grew in evenly with the rest of the areas on my scalp. But now, the places where I did have hair are starting to lose it. I guess I will wait for the areas with length to come completely out and then get the rest shaved down.
I haven't lost hair anyplace else yet. I think that will freak me out more, since I was never really used to having a lot of hair on my head. :-)
Alaina
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Hi Ladies,
I'm having a tough time today, feel like crap. I was hoping that the 2nd dose of TAC wouldn't be as bad as the first. Bone pain and muscle cramps kept me up for most of the night. My husband got up for work and found me sitting downstairs on the couch crying like a big baby. Guess I was feeling sorry for myself. I've tried very hard to have a positive attitude from day one. And today it's in the toilet. Mama Mia is my positive therapy movie, I've seen it five times already. Sorry just needed to bitch a little. Thanks for listening.
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Paula, I identify with you. All through this process, I have been very positive & upbeat. But there are always times when it catches up with you & you just fall apart. I have learned that this is a good thing! Just let it all out. It's your body's way of releasing stress. It's ok to do it!
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Good morning, ladies. Feeling much better today, day 5 of round #2. I do want to report that I tried a daytime allergy tablet for 3 days, similar to Claritan, for the Neulasta SEs, and I did not have ANY bone pain or shortness of breath this time. I did have regular chemo SEs - tender neck and throat, heartburn, constipation that finally relaxed, but I did feel better with the dropped dosages from round #1. Fingers are a little numb, but not too bad. I still don't want to do any more treatments, but that's just how I feel about it all - especially once I start feeling better. I start to question how much is this really going to lower my Oncotype score - it was 18% and they were hoping for 10%. I just wonder if it is worth all of the side effects and what we are putting our bodies through for an 8% decrease. I seem to have very weird side effects - they are always just out of what they say are "normal."
I did call my onc's office this morning and am waiting to hear back from the nurse at the onc's office about the tenderness and slight pain / swelling around the port - hope it's nothing too bad - I realize there could be clotting issues or hopefully it's just some sort of allergic reaction. If they need to see me, I'll have to drive myself in, which I don't really want to do - still a little in the fog, and everyone has gone off to work today. I've taken 2 days off to recuperate. I'll keep everyone posted to what's happening.
I need to have my DH shave my head again - still losing lots of little dark hairs and want to bring it closer to bald, to help keep so many little hairs from raining down. Stubborn grays won't even pull out - but the rest, oh, they are coming out. We'll have to buzz it shorter, as close as I can get it. Nadine - yes, I noticed a slightly tender scalp this weekend too, I just couldn't get my head comfortable. Must be more of the little darlings shooting out of our heads. Alaina, I have the same reaction - I go to scratch my head and my nails come back full of hair. Ick!! Its so out of control, to have it just falling out all over the place at random.
Hugs to everyone - hope we all have a good day!
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Hi ladies, although I am no longer doing chemo, I still like to check in on my April family. Well, its been 17 days since my last and only tx, and I have lost my hair
. Whoever said bald was beautiful has never seen me bald, because that is not the case for me. I am waring my wig, but still feel very self conscious, like everyone can tell. Its probably because I know its a wig so I think everyone else does as well. I am finally feeling 100% and feeling excited about life again. I looking forward to my kids getting out of school for the summer, so we can just get up and go....just me and my boys!!! Everyone here is still in my thoughts daily, and am wishing you all the best!!!! I still plan on popping in and out, from time to time.
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Well, back from the onc's office - and they had to fight to get blood out of my port. Now its even more sore than ever, but doesn't immediately appear that there is something clogging it, which is good. I need to put ice on it and hopefully it will feel better.
But, after discussing with my husband on the way home from the doctor, where I was understandibly frustrated, emotional and scared (they were talking of having to go for x-rays, and other tests, other 'things" that would be needed if there was a clot), I'm planning to talk to my doctor on Thursday during my blood draw about stopping treatment. I am having side effects that are way out of the spectrum, and I just don't think I can handle any more. My husband and daughter support me, since this is a preventative thing, and I am getting radiation and Arimidex following anyway, and my surgery was clear margins / no lymph nodes. I know I am strong, but there are just too many things that I cannot handle two more times, and I give big hugs and kudos to everyone who can stick with it. i will keep you posted as to our discussion and what happens with this port business. forgive me if my typing is not the best, I cannot feel any of the fingers on my left hand, so it's hard to type right now.
talk to you all soon.
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I am so sorry for the two gals who had such a difficult time with chemo. I feel big-time Italian guilt, because I am not experiencing anything remotely like what you have gone through. I empathize with you, and am certain that everyone in our little corner of the cyber-world feels the same way. You have made good decisions for yourselves - you trusted your bodies when they were trying to tell you something. I am just sad that you both had to lose your hair in the midst of everything else. You will remain in my prayers. Best of luck to both of you, Tammy
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woke up with a pillow covered in hair, wasn't expecting that for a few more days. i guess i am going to have my bf buzz it this afternoon.
yesterday i ate my first full meal since chemo and i hope to do the same today. i go back in for round two on wednesday and i am already scared.
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