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  • elf_song
    elf_song Member Posts: 163
    edited April 2009

    Hello, ladies~!   My first rad was march 30th, total of 30..   25more to go!~!   It starting to sore and tired but not to bad compare to chemo..  I am glad I can join this group and nice to meet you all~!

  • EleanorJ
    EleanorJ Member Posts: 752
    edited April 2009

    How's taste with rads? I heard that it can change your taste buds. I hope not, I'm enjoying my taste buds slowly coming back...

    Wishing a good rad week to everyone getting zapped this week!

  • Lainey64
    Lainey64 Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2009

    Hi Caroline.  I haven't heard anything about taste buds being affected.  So far I haven't noticed but I don't think mine have fully recovered from chemo.  Anyone else?

    So far I've had 6 rads and I've noticed that my axillary scar and surrounding area is feeling more tender than usual.  I usually notice it at night.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    Just finished #11 out of 33 this morning! 1/3 of the way DONE!!! I'm mildly sore, especially in the nipple area, and my breast feels heavy and thicker than normal....I was assured that all of that was normal!

    I don't think that rads to the breast affect your taster....unless your breast is attached to your chin! Ha!

    Still wearing a cotton, underwired bra with no problems whatsoever, and skin's slightly pink...nothing to write home about! I've heard that how you took care of your skin while growing up (and into adulthood) is an indicator of how  your skin will fare during rads...good thing I've never been a sunworshipper and I have a thing for lotions and body cremes!

    Robin

  • Lainey64
    Lainey64 Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2009

    Hi Robin!  I'm glad to hear that things are still going fairly good good for you.  And 1/3 of the way thru!  I have always liked the sun but thank goodness I've never sunbathed in the nude! 

  • BonnieK
    BonnieK Member Posts: 655
    edited April 2009

    My exchange and port removal was last Friday and the planning session for rads has been scheduled for Thursday, April 23rd.  Rads (33) will start the week of April 27th, so it looks like I'll barely squeak into this April group!  I've been reading about your experiences and I have a little better idea about what to expect.  That is so helpful -- thank you.

    Bonnie

  • BrandonMom
    BrandonMom Member Posts: 412
    edited April 2009

    I just got back from my 4th visit.  I'm getting 28, so 1/7th of the way through!  I feel muscle tightness and my skin feels tight, though the rad onc says it is too early for that.  Maybe it is just the stretch each day.

    I asked my rad onc why the variances in number of sessions.  She said for those people that had a lump, they get 25 + 5 boost = 30.  For people over 50 or had chemo, they get 3 extra (10%), as they get less per dose.  I think for people that got chemo, they also get the 10% more for 33 doses.  For people, like me, that got a mastectomy, I don't get the boosts (she said I had a "surgical boost" at removing everything), but since I have had chemo, I get the lower dose, but more doses (10% more, so 28 doses).  Looking at various folks schedules, it seems to add up for the most part.  Bonnie's is the only one where it didn't add, since it seems like she had the mast.

    For the bolus, it is essentially a warm towel to simulate tissue.  Radiation, she said, doesn't work on air versus tissue, but rather tissue versus tissue.  To get the skin, they put something over the skin to simulate tissue, so that the radiation gets the skin.  She also said, I will get red.  She looks for some redness (someone asked that question earlier).  She said if it doesn't get red, then it must not be treated, so there must be an equipment issue.  How red, blistered, etc, depends on how well you took care of your skin when you were younger.

  • BonnieK
    BonnieK Member Posts: 655
    edited April 2009

    My rad schedule would be the only one that doesn't add up!  I did have a mast + chemo, so maybe the radiation onc will give me updated info at my planning session on the 23rd.  She has said 33 tx from the beginning though, so I'll ask her for an explanation if that's still the number.

    ~Bonnie  

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited April 2009

    I don't want to say "only", but I'm only getting 25 rads... hmmm.

    Oh please do not let rads hurt the taste buds... my coffee still tastes like salt!

    Elaine-Do they put one of those "bolus" (plastic) over you ?  I think that will make you more tender.

    Any of you ladies who have started have tissue expanders in?  I'm still sore from my last fill, they are pressing on my ribs so I can't imagine any more soreness on top of this... ugh.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    I've had 6.  (yesterday machine was broken) and no SE's to speak of yet.  Felt like tingling in right fingertips during this mornings session.  Can't tell if I'm tired because I've been running around the last few days.  Scar from lumpectomy is a little tender but not the scar from node removal. I do think that the right boob has shrunk; I can see a difference between them.  If that is the case, with 27 more treatments the right may disappear altogether!

  • BrandonMom
    BrandonMom Member Posts: 412
    edited April 2009

    Susan13 - I have a tissue expander, and it does hurt.  It wasn't hurting before I began this, so I'm not sure if it is from the rads or from the stretching of having to be in that same position for a bit.  The rad onc says it is too soon for the pain to be from the rads.  BTW, for me the bolus isn't plastic, but rather a warm, wet towel. 

  • Jane_M
    Jane_M Member Posts: 1,549
    edited April 2009

    I had a mast+chemo and I am getting 33 rads (28+5 boosts).  I also had a bolus for the breast area and axillary nodes.  They took the bolus off for the supraclavicular nodes.  Tomorrow is my last treatment.

  • fleecewood
    fleecewood Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2009

    Hey-

    Had #2 today with 28 to go.  4 areas treated, no bolus,

    Patoo- I also noticed my hands were tingling about 4 hours after treatment today.  Wasn't expecting that at all. 

    I read a great book by Jane Plant (a scientist from Britain- who had breast cancer and then 5 reoccurences) called "Your Life in your hands". She  has some great simple advice. Lots of greens, no dairy. Eat organic eggs one per day: they contain amino acids-cysteinelike chemicals which are also used in antiradiation pills- so can protect you somewhat. Icelandic kelp pills and seaweed do the same thing. Also garlic, onions ,leeks and chives have the same chemicals.  She drank fennel juice mixed 50/50 with green apples during chemo and never lost her hair- (those she persuaded to do the same also kept theirs) Those who took folic acid pills lost theirs.   She also mentioned best not to use soap just water on affected area and a low power shower. 

    Maybe this doesn't belong in this area, but I figure I will try anything that has worked well for others.

    Jane_M- Congrats on your last treatment !

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    I had a lumpectomy, I'm 42, had 15 rounds of chemo and I'm getting 33 rads...and I'm covered with a dry cloth on the side that's NOT being treated...

  • BrandonMom
    BrandonMom Member Posts: 412
    edited April 2009

    Jane, hmmm, I don't know what's up, then.  Your diagnosis is very sinilar to mine, so I'm not sure why the difference in rads.   I always like to understand everything to make sure I'm getting the right treatment.  Now, you have me wondering....

  • kjbell
    kjbell Member Posts: 974
    edited April 2009

    I had chemo, right mast and have a t/e in and get the bolus every other day and was told I would have 33 treatments. Today was day 7. No redness or pain yet. However I have noticed a little change in taste but don't know if it is from this or the herceptin.

  • BrandonMom
    BrandonMom Member Posts: 412
    edited April 2009

    kjbell - I think things taste differently too. I'm getting the bolus every day.  So strange the differences.

  • fleecewood
    fleecewood Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2009

    I was told that the radiation treatments are tailored to the individual.  You each had a different tumor in a slightly different area in different sizes, different stages.  Even the amount of rads delivered will have slight variations in generalized categories.  The rehabilitation area also mentioned to be sure to do stretching exercises- because the radiation can tend to make the different layers (fascia, muscles, skin) "stick together"  instead of having the natural free floating ability to glide over each other in different directions. 

  • busymomof5
    busymomof5 Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2009

    Hi. I am new to online support groups. I completed 4 doses of AC followed by 12 weekly of Taxol

    on March 16th. I think I just put my blinders on and plowed through chemo. It was not easy for me.

    I developed a terrible rash on my hands during Taxol. Also several of my nails were painful and disclolored. I had to have the nail on my right middle finger removed by a surgeon on Friday as the nail bed was infected.

    I will have mapping done on April 29th and start radiation on April 20th. I think I will feel better talking to others going through this as my friends just say "oh, that should not be too bad". They do not understand, as much as they care.

  • busymomof5
    busymomof5 Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2009

    I have a tissue expander in. They said that they may have to add more saline or let some out at the mapping. did they have to do that for you? I am also concerned because of scarring. The plastic surgeon said there is a possibility that I may not be able to complete the reconstruction. He is an excellent surgeon and said that he will do everything possible to make the reconstruction happen.

    My expansions never hurt me. I am concerned about the sunburnt effect as I am very fair.

    I am sooooo excited to have my taste back. I had not heard that radiation can affect taste. I can finally taste chocolate again!!!

  • busymomof5
    busymomof5 Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2009

    correction...I will have mapping done on April 9th, not 29th. I will start rads on April 20th, total of 33.

  • BrandonMom
    BrandonMom Member Posts: 412
    edited April 2009

    busymom - I have a tissue expander, and also had no problems with the fills.  I've only had 4 treatments, and I think I see color changes already.  My rad onc didn't look, but said it was too early for that.  I had fills prior to rads and didn't have to have any fluid added/taken out.  What type of reconstruction were you trying for?  I've heard that implants do not always work out after radiation, but there are other ways to do a recon.

    Rad is more emotional for me than the chemo/surgery.  For both chemo and surgery there was always a distraction I could keep my mind on.  For rads, I lay there alone.  The machine whirls around and gets so close that I feel claustrophobic, though I have never felt claustrophic in my life.  I hold still, but my mind is racing about thoughts of everything going on, knowing there is a beam that is zapping my body, wondering what would happen if I couldn't hold still.  Maybe it will get to be routine.  For now, it is more a mental game for me than a physical one.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited April 2009

    Jane - did you get any tattoo's near the supraclavicular area?  Do they radiate below it or right at the collarbone?  I realized the other day after my SIM that there are no marks near that area, but I remember my rad onc saying that I will have the supra. area radiated.  Just wondering.

    I'm so scared that my expander on the radiated side is going to bust or something, it's so darn tight already.

  • busymomof5
    busymomof5 Member Posts: 25
    edited April 2009

    Hi Brandonmom. I am hoping to have an implant. I know that it does not always work out after radiaiton. I can not do the abdominal flap and the other, using a muscle from the back does not appeal to me at all. 

    I am also anxious about the radiation for the same reasons you are. I will be alone and I am claustrophobic. I also have allergies and cough a lot. I am so afraid of coughing during treatment.I mentioned this to the doctor and he was also concerned. I get frustrated when people say it will be easy. I have to go to Dana Farber 33 times. That alone is not easy. I am also receiving Avastin. I am happy about that. I was in a blind study and was lucky to be getting Avastin and not a placebo. I will continue Avastin once every 3 weeks until October. I still have a port in and will go to the treatment area for the infusion. This is a long process but I am glad to be doing everything possible to make me cancer free.

  • Juli50
    Juli50 Member Posts: 859
    edited April 2009

    Love all the information here! Thanks, Colleen!

    I keep my eyes closed and count... to get me through each zap. I've had 10 rads, and feel a little sore under my arm.

    Hugs! Kiss

  • Lainey64
    Lainey64 Member Posts: 740
    edited April 2009

    Hi all.  Yesterday was #7 for me.  I haven't felt claustrophobic through rads.  My tech is really nice and we chat about our days, etc.  The couple of minutes I'm in there seem to fly by.  I saw my rad onc yesterday for a few seconds.  No problems to report.  I told him I'm putting aloe vera gel on twice a day even though I still have no signs of redness.  He said "why not?". :)

    Susan - I don't know anything about a bolus.  I had a lumpectomy w/axillary node dissection.  Maybe that's why??  The tech just covers my unaffected side with my gown.  Like Fleecewood said, we are all different.

    Busymom - Welcome to the April rads group!

  • berrypatch
    berrypatch Member Posts: 90
    edited April 2009

    Hi Ladies,

    I will have 33 tx's

    My mapping was finished on Monday, so I had my first tx yesterday.  Probably my imagination, but the radiated area felt "warm" last night.  I don't have the claustraphobia, but it is weird that the techs just scurry from the room.   They sure don't want what I'm getting!  Then there is this buzzing sound, and the machine makes some noises.  The techs are nice, and it is much better than chemo. 

    Only have 1 complaint.....the lady who is treated before me reeks of cat urine.  They have 2 lockers in the changing room.  I had to put my clothes in that locker, because the other was in use.  My clothes stunk (is that a word?) afterwards.  YAK!!!!  And that is not "chemo nose"!  I may end up locking my purse in my desk at work, and finding someplace in the dressing room to hide my clothes.  Sorry to sound so weird, but it really is gross!

    I go back to work on Monday!  I haven't worked since DX in Sept.  Hospital where I have rads is 1/4 mile down the road from work, and my appointment is 12:15.  Works out perfectly with my lunch hour.

    BTW....before I lost my eyebrows, I still had to fill them in, sparse in spots.  I used Maybelline eyebrow pencil for years, and it worked well for me.  Now I use it and in a few hours, it's gone.  I have a few hairs for each eyeborw on the inner aspect of each eye.  Pretty freaky looking!  So I went to Ulta 3 yesterday, and worked with the cosmetician.  She used "Anastasia Brow Powder Duo" with an angled brush with a "Brow Fix" pencil.  I still have eyebrows!  woo hoo!  Expensive tho....those 2 items and a cheap angled brush came to $51.00. 

    My eyes continue to tear and water constantly from the Taxotere, so I can't wear any eye makeup for now.  My eyelids and the corners of my eyes are chapped from constantly either being wet or having a tissue pressed to them.  I use Chapstick at night on those areas and it seems to work well.

    Well, time to shower and get ready to go.  Today I get the bolus blanket.  No wig or make-up today, except eyebrows and a scarf.  Just a quick in and out and home for me.

    Hugs to all ~ Carol

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2009

    Figured I might as well start exercising with one week to go before rads. Put in my first workout since before my January surgery. Just showered and am feeling healthy and strong.

    Here is a link to my wedding pictures, if anyone is interested. Bette and Tom's Wedding 

    What IS the best thing to use on your skin? I'm going shopping this weekend for rads aids.

    Bette 

  • fleecewood
    fleecewood Member Posts: 29
    edited April 2009

    Finished nr 3 today.  And to Berrypatch- I had that same warm sensation the first night too.-don't notice it now.  I inquired about the bolus...its for those who have had a masectomy for it allows them to radiate the chest wall much better.  Those of us who had a lump are getting hit more for the breast tissue.

    Is anyone taking Arimidex?

    I ordered some of the my girls radiation cream from radiant life- that got high marks from the March group-(haven't received yet)  and also purchased an aloe plant- so you are not applying  the chemicals of the storebought ones.

  • Jane_M
    Jane_M Member Posts: 1,549
    edited April 2009

    Susan - I did not get tattoos to the supraclav area.  I have one between my breasts and one on each side.  They line me up using those and the CT scans.  One tech yells out numbers - longitude, latitude, etc. so the techs can put me in the correct position.  I get 3 "shots".  The first "beam" is to my mast site with the bolus.  Next, they do the axillary area, still using the bolus.  Then, the come in and remove the bolus and do the supraclav area.  I know they're hitting it, too, because, as of today, my back is peeling and so is my upper clavicle area.  I AM NOW DONE!!!

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