FlaLady -did you ever find out about Miltex
Hi-
I have been reading through some archives and just wondered if you ever found the Miltex and if it worked for you?
Thanks!
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Miltex
Miltex was originally developed in Germany as an oral treatment for
breast cancer. It is a derivarive of Phosphocholine. Chemically it is a sort of
lipid. It has been tried internally in the treatment of breast cancer, but
the concentations needed to treat breast cancer are too toxic on the GI tract
to be effective.
While the concentrations needed to treat breast cancer internally are
simply too high, oral Miltex is very effective in treating a parasitic
protozoal infection known as Leishmaniasis, which is endemic in India and spread by
sandflies. It is given in a dosage of 100mg /day for 28 days and can cure
94% of the Kala Azar infections.
Topical treatment of the skin mets of breast cancer with Miltex is
another matter. The drug has been used, and is being used to treat this
situation..It is applied as a 6% solution and the dosage is, for the first week, 2
drops of the solution per 10 cm2 of affected skin applied daily. If there are
no, or minimal local side effects, the dosage is increased to 2 drops of the
6% Miltex solution per 10 square centimeters of affected skin tissue, twice
daily.This dose is continued, more or less, as long as it is effective and
there are no severe local side effects.The main local side effects are itching,
burning, desquamation, and irritation. Apparently skin that has been
irradiated may be more sensitive to the effects of Miltex solution. The success rate
for the treatment of the skin mets of BC is about 40%. Systemic absorbion of
the drug from the skin is minimal.
Some Oncologists have dropped the dose to one drop/ 10 sq centimeters
affected skin surface, two times a day if 2 drops are too irritating. After the
solution is dropped on, it is gently rubbed into the lesion and surrounding
tissue, very gently with the fingers, enclosed in a rubber glove. Since people
on the board have used Miltex, they can give you more explicit directions on
actual use. Overall the topical use seems safe.
The mechanism of action of Miltex against breast cancer skin mets is
not exactly known. It seems to increase the intra- cellular concentrations of
Ceramide about 53%. Cetrimide is a lipid that is very involved in Apotosis or
programmed cell death. Its kind of complicated, as there is an abundant
lipid in the cell surface called Sphingosine. Depending on enzyme activation,
Sphingosine can be changed to Ceramide and induce apoptosis (an anti-cancer
action) or can be phosphorylated to Sphingosine Phosphate, and act to stop
apoptosis (a "pro cancer" action). Miltex seems to push the cells to produce more
Ceramide and this leads to cell death. Of course, this is a simplified
explanation.
Miltex also inhibits Protein Kinase C (PKC) and PKC inhibition leads to
inhibition of the RAS signaling pathway which is very involved in the growth
of tumour cells. -
Here are some stories of ladies that has used Miltex
Lady X has a mother in Wisconson who's
Oncologist treated her with Miltex (I'm not sure how the
Oncologist obtained it). Once applied to her breasts
(the mets grew to the non-tumorous breast),
she developed "red spots" not only where applied,
but over her shoulders and back as well (within five days).
Over time, her Mother found that Miltex only made her
skin raw and was very painful, while the skin mets
continued to spread. -
Lady Y. Miltex worked for a while with skin mets that were just breaking
through the skin. Then it stopped working. One time my skin mets got bad
like yours sound, and at that time I started ABRAXANE which worked really
great but only for 3 months, but while it was working, the skin met blisters
and bleeding just melted away and healed. I was so pleased. I thought I
had found the answer. Then it quit working. The mets got bad and I had
radiation again which helps greatly for a while but then the mets come back -
I research and asked my doctor about Miltex. He said this burns very bad when applied.(?) You can only get it in the US for compassionate care through a request for the pharm. company.
I was told about Aldara by someone online here. This is kind of the same kind of cream. This is only used on open wounds. You can only use it in a place the size of a quarter daily for five days ever other week. This did a wonderful job in healing and closing up my open wounds. I was surprised how fast. Just remember it only treats the top few layers of skin and not all the way down to bottom layer. I would recommend it to anyone.
Flalady
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Thanks! How did you get the Aldara..sounds like a better option than the Miltex. I am just looking for something that might ease her pain. If she could have some relief for the open sores I think that would be a step in the right direction.
Is is prescription?
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downtownfan,
She will need a prescription. Does her skin smell? For me this was the worst part. I found that if I misted my chestwall with hydrogen peroxide after getting out of the shower daily this did help. You can do it twice a day and no more. To much will make the sore raw. They now make it in a spray bottle. Only took about twenty years to figure out that's how it should have been all along:) I was also concerned about infections with low blood with chemo.
You may have to push the doctor to give it to her. Let them know you understand this is for the open wounds only and it will not stop bc. They get a little weird about these creams for some reason.
Flalady
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Humm.... not sure if her skin smells. I am in DC and she is in Dallas but I am going to LA so I can see for myself then. She says that anything she puts on it stings..... I will mention about the spray bottle. They have her on morphine and hydrocodone and some days that isn't even enough for the pain.
I will talk to the doctor in CA about this and see what we can do. The last two days have been pretty good for her but anything to make the sores not quite as bad would be great.
Thanks for all the help!
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My pain was bad also...some day really bad. Nights the worst. I tried everything. The peroxide really did help. It was cold but did not sting. Also I would put ice packs on my chest to numb the areas. I hope she is not wearing a bra and wearing loose clothes. You need to keep air on the skin.
I so hope you can find away to make your Mom comfortable. Make sure she has something to help her sleep. But make sure she has someone handling her meds. Morphine can make you feel really strange and not sure whats real and what was just a thought in your drug haze.
May God hold you both close over the next weeks and months.
Flalady
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I hope this is where to post questions as well. I ordered Miltex (oncologist-assisted) about a month ago. I have not heard from them. Followed up with a letter about a week ago. I realize it is in Germany - but does anyone have any idea as to the process to be approved, ie - how long does it take - do they have additional criteria, etc.
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No, not yet. Thanks.
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