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  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited January 2009

    Got the go ahead to run (6 weeks after hysterectomy) on Monday at noon and was on the TM by 6pm.  Ran 2 miles on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and tonight - yay!  Next week I will try to up it to 3 miles and then play with the speed a bit.  Felt great!

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  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited January 2009

    Everyminute woohooo !!! I bet you are feeling like a kid who found its longlost toy ! 

    Last week Zometa affected me badly and I was down shivering with a fever for 2 days.. that was not fun. 

    I feel that today was my breakthrough day, I was able to hold on to a relatively fast group ride, my speed is still not where it was but 1 year after my last chemo I think my body is finally coming back to where it was I feel that it IS responding to training. For the first time I was able to tire my legs - usually since I had chemo my cardiovascular system gave out before my muscles- I am off the Arimidex until Monday I hope this is not a temporary thing that will change when I go on Femara on Monday and I will feel weak again.

    However instead of feeling happy I feel scared, scared that this feeling of goodness is going to be taken away anyday by something cropping up. Silly I know but cant help it ! I am savoring appreciating  each training day taking each healthy day as a gift never taking simple things for granted.

    Yesterday I tried stressing my system by attending a group coaching session where we ( swam for 1300 yards, did some upper body and core weights, ran for 2 miles ) then at night went to a Bikram yoga session. This morning went to the 40 mile group ride and I feel good. My endurance is back ! I was able to do it all with no problem.

    Went to my old coach and had a weight training session with him it went good, so he's a keeper at least for now.  

    The weight is still not moving (I have nothing to blame but my lack of willpower for carb/sugars), and thus my jog/walk is suffering. I jog/walked 6 miles at 13:00 min/miles, am hoping to bring it down to 11:00 min/.miles eventually.

    Tomorrow have a 4.5 mile jog/walk.

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  • runner4life
    runner4life Member Posts: 54
    edited February 2009

    Trigeek- How are you doing?  I am training for a race in March and starting to look into possibly doing a triathalon late this year or in 2010.  Made me think of you. 

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  • tiff2008
    tiff2008 Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2009

    Runner4life--Congrats on your marathon!!  I love to run as well.  I also kept running through my chemo tx the best I could.  You're right, running is so refreshing!  My DH and I are going to run the Chicago Sprint Tri in Aug09.  THis will be our first.  I've started to pick up my running and ended up getting Plantar Facitis..dang...I'm trying to work thru it though and hopefully it won't get in the way of Tri training.

    Good luck to all of you in reaching your goals!

    Tiff

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  • tiff2008
    tiff2008 Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2009

    Trigeek--I just saw your post...you've obviously have done tri's b4?  I understand when you talk about being scared that this healthy great feeling is going to end...I think about all the time.  But I think if it wasn't for running and Tri training I'd be a basket case.  Have you done the Chicago Tri before?

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  • hicksc
    hicksc Member Posts: 17
    edited February 2009

    Trigeek - try stretching your feet before you get out of bed in the morning - with plantar fasciitis, the fascia heals (somewhat) at night while you sleep, but as soon as you put your weight on it in the morning as you get out of bed, it tears again - thus, pain.  If you stretch it gently before you get up, that should help.  Also, keep supportive shoes by your bed and put them on immediately - again to support the fascia.

    I'm so pleased to have found this thread - thought I was alone!  I am 9 months finished chemo and radiation but only one week post last Herceptin.  I kept training and running all through treatment and did my first 5-mile race about 6 weeks post last chemo.  And I didn't come last!

    I am training to run the Boston marathon on April 20 so am doing between 40 and 50 mile training weeks right now.  It's hard and I'm sure not as fast as I was but I'm doing it!  Heading out for my 20-miler right now. 

    Trigeek, hang in there - the healthy feeling gets better.

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  • runner4life
    runner4life Member Posts: 54
    edited February 2009

    Tiff2008-  I was on a long run yesterday thinking about what you wrote about if it wasn't for training you would have been a basket case.  I was thinking about why we feel this way.  It is not just about keeping myself busy so I don't think because I think a lot on those long runs.  One thought that came to me yesterday is that running makes me feel healthy and strong... not just physically but mentally and even spiritually. I think for me it partly has to do with the discipline of both training and maintaining a healthy diet.  It's even more than that though... I can't get it into words.  It just makes me so happy!

    hicksc- I am training to qualify for next year's boston marathon.  I am so excited that you are doing it this year and hope you will share your experience.  Inspiring!  I am putting in 30-40 right now getting ready for the Pasadena marathon in 4 weeks.  Good luck with everything!

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  • tiff2008
    tiff2008 Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2009

    runner4life- You're exactly right, running and excerising in general makes us feel healthy and strong in all ways.  And especially for me having a goal to reach for (marathon or tri) keeps me motivated.  Your'e an inspiration, good luck with your events!

    Are you following a particular diet?  Nutrition is where I lack, I eat a lot of good things but also I indulge in the not so good stuff as well.  I have about 10 lbs I'd like to get rid of, and I know it's due to my indulging...because my fitness dedication is good! 

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  • hicksc
    hicksc Member Posts: 17
    edited February 2009

    I think it has a lot to do with control.  Being able to train, run and stick to a plan which inevitably makes you feel better and better about yourself puts you in control of something again - and after going through all of this stuff which we really can't control, I think it is very powerful to feel in control of your body, your life and your future again.

    runner4life - Good luck with Pasadena - hope it is a great day for you!  Please let us know how it goes!

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  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited February 2009

    Hey tiff, yes I used to be a tri-geek ( from about 2001 to 2007 until .. hit the fan!). The plantar fascitis has taken over my running(even walking) and threw me in a funk. I know I should just continue my bike/swim trainings but seems like my mental health is fragile and I stopped everything alltogether(Sigh ! ) and focused my obsession on work.. which is I guess a good thing. Cause when I truly act/feel like a trigeek the work goes down the drain, not good in this economic environment !

    Hicks !! 40-50 mile training runs woohooo !!!! you are running for me gf ! You are so right I do feel like I lost control so I am trying to gain the control I lost via work.

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  • tiff2008
    tiff2008 Member Posts: 278
    edited February 2009

    trigeek- I hear ya on the plantar facitis thing, I've gotten a little more unmotivated since getting it.  I think we all go through those times of mental health fragility, but you'll get back into it!!

    Hicks- You Go Girl!

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  • runner4life
    runner4life Member Posts: 54
    edited February 2009

    I am really sorry to hear that trigeek but I am glad you are able to  throw yourself into your work. 

    Tiff2008- While researching information on Tamoxifen, I learned about the Crazy Sexy Life blog where Kris Carr spends a lot of time discussing the benefits of raw foods, juicing, juice fasting etc.  I am still learning about it but have started to incorporate juice and fruit/veggie purees into my regular diet.

    hicksc- I will be sure to let you know about Pasadena if you let us know about Boston.  I will be thinking of you.  Sending you lots of strength and energy! 

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  • achen2iron
    achen2iron Member Posts: 64
    edited March 2009

    Thanks all for giving me hope. I am/was 15 weeks into a 30 week Ironman training when dx. Running a different race now. Am glad to be in such good shape going into this though. Am having bilat mastectomies, TRAM, hyster and ooph on 4/22. Hoping to avoid chemo. Of course I'll be missing this years race on 6/20 (I may go swim one lap, can't get my money back anyway) but plan on signing up for CDA in 2010. Has anyone had a TRAM and done this distance stuff. How long after can I start walking for excercise? My PS says 12 weeks before I can go back to work (heavy lifting) How about swimming?  Good luck with your training!!!

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  • TXBadboob
    TXBadboob Member Posts: 597
    edited April 2009

    achen2iron, are you aware that with the TRAM procedure, they take part of your ab muscle?  I was told this by my PS, and is the reason I decided against it, as I am active(not Ironman active, but still active:)).  Please research this before you make up your mind about it.  Hope this helps.

    Deen

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  • car
    car Member Posts: 492
    edited April 2009

    I'd second reconsidering the TRAM-flap. I've just finished a DIEP procedure and chose it because my muscle would be untouched. I'm not doing triathlons, but I'm a century cyclist, do at least 5 hours of cardio/week in the gym, and am a Pilates devotee. I'm actually stronger in Pilates than I was pre-op.

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  • achen2iron
    achen2iron Member Posts: 64
    edited April 2009

    II pretty much have made up my mind on the TRAM option. He does take the minimum amount of muscle possible though. The reason is because I work in an OR and with all of my surgeons. I just can't imagine going to anyone else for any of this because I know what a great job all these guys and gals do and I'd have to travel for the DIEP and I definately to not want a delayed reconstruction. I would just really love to hear from any athletic tram free flap people to see how the muscle loss has afftected them. Thanks for the input, though.   

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  • ngcm05
    ngcm05 Member Posts: 134
    edited April 2009

    How did the surgery go?  How did the races go?  Need updates on all these fabulous women!!

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  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited April 2009

    I ran a 5 mile race on 4/6 (5 months post chemo and 2 monhts post radiation) in 50 mins.  Ran it last year in my peak condition in 46 mins so not too shabby!

    Running a 3.5 race on 5/21  - hoping to be around 9 min miles by then!

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  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited April 2009

    everyminute - Congratulations!  Awesome about your running times!  I can do daily walks but I sure can't run.

    trigeek - I am constantly struggling with weight issues.

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  • Springtime
    Springtime Member Posts: 5,355
    edited April 2009

    Everyminute, YOU GO GIRL!!!! :)

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  • runner4life
    runner4life Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2009

    hicksc-  How did Boston go for you?!?

    Congrats everyminute!!!  You brought happy tears to my eyes- the first race for me was really overwhelming.  Makes you feel so grateful!

    I love reading all these different racing updates- it is so positive!  I ran the Pasadena Marathon on 3/23 in 4:20!  Running in the Flying Pig marathon this weekend and just started triathlon training this week.  Being careful to take it slow and steady and give myself recovery time and lots of sleep.  It's hard though... I am totally hooked!  

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  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited April 2009

    Thanks guys!  It feels so good to do something hard and be able to do it.  I get frustrated with myself because I want to be faster but I just keep trying and hope it clicks!  I recently started training a few people at work to run - going out with them several times a week doing the couch to 5k program  hopefully they will get hooked too and then I have more running buddies!

    I have a half marathon in mind for october - it is local and flat but I have never run a half before.  I am working towards it....

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  • bomber410
    bomber410 Member Posts: 564
    edited April 2009

    Everyminute, nice job on your race!  Sounds like you've got great plans moving forward too.

    Runner4life, your Pasadena time is excellent!  Good luck with this weekend's marathon!  We'll look forward to your results.

    Remember, it's just one foot in front of the other.  :-)

    Debbie

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  • achen2iron
    achen2iron Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2009
    Had the surgery 4/22. Back in the game. Walked my first mile yesterday. Told ps that today when I went to get my drains out. He told me to back off the mile thing and just walk to the end of the road for now. Says I can start walking a mile next fri. Bummer. I guess I don't want swelling tho. It's just hard to sit still.Cool  
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  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited May 2009

    Just ran my best race time (even pre bc - I only started running the year before) 28:25.  I ran a week after chemo 34 mins so this is progress! My first mile I ran in 8:48.  It is funny - I say I have boob induced ashtma, when I push myself it really is so tight!. Hopefully as I continue to pus, this too will get better.

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  • AlohaGirl
    AlohaGirl Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2009

    I'm so happy I found this thread.  You all are inspiring to me.  I had a lumpectomy 3 weeks ago and am still struggling to run (I can do it but it hurts and I get worried it will start to hurt more, start holding my body weird and then my neck and shoulder cramp up) and start rads in a couple of weeks.  (I'm fortunate not to need chemo.)  I really miss running and working out regularly.  I have never been fast but did a marathon back in December before I was diagnosed and was hoping to do another one this fall.  I feel like getting back to my regular work out routine will help me get back to normal, and having a goal (either a marathon or half marathon) in the fall will help push me along.  I was feeling quite hopeless about when I would be able to get back to my usual routine but am feeling much better now and will keep trying the running every few days until either (a) it stops hurting or (b) I stop being so nervous about it hurting more that I give myself a neck cramp.  THANK YOU!

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  • achen2iron
    achen2iron Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2009

    AlohaGirl,

    Have you tried wearing 2 sports bras. I did that after both my biopsy and my lumpectomy and it seemed to help.

    To all you with planter fasciatis. I feel your pain.Are you staying off cement sidewalks at all costs?. For some reason that always makes a big difference for me. I also use super motion control running shoes even tho my arches aren't collapsed. I can't wait to be able to run again.

    Trigeek are you back at it yet. Do you blog on beginner tri too? I thought  I recognized your online name from there.

    Happy workouts everyone! 

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  • AlohaGirl
    AlohaGirl Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2009

    Achen2iron:  Thanks for the suggestion!  I haven't tried that but it sounds like a great idea (and definitely better than using my arm to try to keep my breast from bouncing, which is effective but awkward (and makes me look weird I'm sure).  I'll try that this evening!

    Also, are you planning to do Kona in 2010?  If so, I'll come out to cheer you on!!!  A bunch of my friends volunteered this year (giving water to cyclists up near Hawi) and they had a great time. 

    For those of you with planter fasciatis, don't forget to ice after you run!  I had terrible problems when I first started running longer distances but got over them with lots of icing and a new pair of running shoes.  I hope your heels get better soon.  That is so painful and frustrating!

    I am inspired by you all!

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  • achen2iron
    achen2iron Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2009

    Alohagirl

    Unfortunately I'm not fast enough to qualify for Kona. I'm hoping I can keep doing Ironman long enough I can eventually be the only one in my age group so I can go. Laughing

    Let me know how the sports bra thing worked for you.

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  • AlohaGirl
    AlohaGirl Member Posts: 213
    edited May 2009

    Achen2iron -- thanks for the tip.  The two sports bra idea worked great and I was able to do a 3 mile run (though I had to walk a little bit just because I seem to have gotten really out of shape in the last 3 1/2 weeks).  I'm so happy!  THANK YOU!!!

    I'll hope to cheer you on at Kona in 2011 or some other time in the future.  Also, I think they have some people who do it without a qualifying time (maybe a lottery or something, or maybe that is for locals). 

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