Anyone Retired Fixed Income?

tos
tos Member Posts: 376

My  husband and I retired early at 62 and it has been a big financial adjustment.  Meeting these medical co-pays are difficult to say the least.

Do any of you with history of worry about care with your cancer?

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  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Yep, I'm on 100%  commission (in THIS economy) and have a husband at home with 3 brain tumours. Fixed income? I'd love one!

  • klp
    klp Member Posts: 1,770
    edited April 2009

    I'm on a fixed income...pension and Social Security. I have Medicare and Healthnet. I have not had to pay for any services from mammo all the way thru radiation..my dx and tx noted below. I consider myself very fortunate that as long as cancer struck it was after I was on Medicare.

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited April 2009

    Barbe.  I pray you are an Ontario resident at least.  At least you'd have OHIP.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Sharon, OHIP wouldn't have paid for all my chemo expenses, so that's one of the reasons I had to go to mastectomy. I also doesn't cover time off work for rads and recon, so I had to skip those too! Oh, the choices we have to make....

  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited April 2009

    Barbe so you didn't have any treatment other than surgery?  I'm so sorry to hear about your husband, how is he doing?

    I don't understand what your commission is in Canada?

    Klp so you evidently got along with the Medicare/secondary ok then.  I had heard the rumors they were talking about cutting back care for the older ones and it horrified me to think that would happen.  I've still got a couple of years before on Medicare

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited April 2009

    We are on a retired fixed income also...my DH took early retirement six years ago now..

    It is a challenging time for all of us...thank goodness our mortgage is paid off...

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Galnok, 100% commission means I don't get paid unless I sell something. And then, only once it is delivered to the customer! People are hanging on pretty tightly to their money lately. As I don't have a fixed income, banks hate me. I make different amounts each year so have no stability. Got a mortgage thank God, or rent would be higher. We pay $1,500 now, but rents here are stupid. We can't deduct mortgage expenses in our income taxes like you guys can in the states.

    No treatment other than surgery....can't take a chance with side effects, so I'll just wait to see if/when it metastisizes.....sigh. Maybe then I can get off the treadmill! 

  • klp
    klp Member Posts: 1,770
    edited April 2009

    Galnok,

    I heard the same rumors but it won't affect me...I think they meant 55 or younger would have to get private insurance instead of getting Medicare when they were 65...I don't think anything has been set in stone yet.

  • Analemma
    Analemma Member Posts: 1,622
    edited April 2009

    What exactly does "fixed income" mean?  Is there not cost of living adjustments made?  I'm on SSDI and I got a "raise" at the beginning of 2009.  Does retirement or pension not adjust for cost of living?  Not trying to be snippy, I really don't know.  I don't think Social Security should be called "fixed income" because it adjusts annually but I know that some do call it that.

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited April 2009

    our particular income from the pensions is fixed..remains the same ...

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    My stepmother gets $9,000 a month from my Dad's pension (even though he is dead). She also get medical, dental, prescription, eyeglasses, etc.

    Gee, I could live on that quite nicely! 

  • kmccraw423
    kmccraw423 Member Posts: 3,596
    edited April 2009

    Good governor!  What is this about not being able to get Medicare at 65?  Right now I am on COBRA until December.  I pay $300/month.  To convert to a private policy would cost a minimum of $750/month and my out of pocket expenses would double - at least.  I am praying for Medicare but have 3 years to wait.

    I am on a no-income plan.  I have not been able to find other employment and I am having to draw money from my retirement annuity that has already lost a ton of money due to stockmarket.

    I worry about plenty if I don't have insurance as I am on 9 medications for other conditions.  I am scared all the time.  Since Wal-Mart now has certain generic drugs at $10 for a 90 day supply I will be using them.  There are some medications I take that do not come in generic and cost $200-$300 per month without insurance.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    I hear you! My meds are about $600 a month. That's one of the reasons I have to stay at my full commission job as I finally have a drug plan! I couldn't do chemo as I couldn't afford what my plan doesn't pay! That's one of the reasons I went right to double mastectomy. I couldn't afford the time off or side effects.

  • tos
    tos Member Posts: 376
    edited April 2009

    Yes SS did have an increase the beginning of the year.  Fixed income is probably my term.  It isn't alot of money.  Alot of my husband's pension is ate up paying for insurance.  But I am grateful we have that option.

    It just seems the insurance carriers are paying less, the medical costs are going up.

    In the statement I read by Tom Daschle he said older people would be getting less care.  I think the older people of this country have paid their dues and should never have to worry about healthcare.  This concerns me.  Not only do we have a history of cancer but other issues will pop up as we age.

    I think I am going to go live with Barbe's stepmother.Cool

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Hah! She "became" a lesbian after my Dad died and has a girlfriend in Seattle (she lives just north of Toronto).

    I think that's a horrendous medical policy. You're right! Us old people have been paying into the system for a lot longer than the young pups that we now have to support.

  • Jenniferz
    Jenniferz Member Posts: 541
    edited April 2009

    My husband retired five years ago, and I retired (again) last year.  So, that makes us having a "fixed" income.  We get paid retirement through our teacher's retirement system, so don't qualify for Medicare unless we pay for it.  When we get older, I think it's "highly suggested" that we do that. Our state is not that kind, and we pay for a portion our insurance.  When I retired, I had to take a "step" lower so I could afford my portion of it.

    I do worry about cancer coming back, but have decided that there's nothing that worry can fix, and just prayer that if it does come back, we'll be ready for it.  It's scarey enough out there for me without worrying about what "might" happen in my case.

    Oh, and we just got a newsletter last week that "they" say should be solvent until 2040.  Since I plan on being here to cause my children grief, wonder what will happen then???

    Jennifer

  • Brenda_R
    Brenda_R Member Posts: 509
    edited April 2009

    Kind of on a fixed income here. I'm on SSD and hubby is on unemployment, with not much prospect of going back to his regular job. I've been covered for the last several years on his insurance through his union, but now he hasn't had enough work to keep the insurance unless we pay for it. We did that this month and will next month, then I get on medicare and he will be able to stay on his insurance for 4 more months.

    What bothers me is that his unemployment will run out about Nov, and my SSD will be up for review in Nov. If I lose my SSD and medicare, then we will have no income no insurance. Frown  

  • mzmiller99
    mzmiller99 Member Posts: 894
    edited April 2009

    I was planning on living on a "fixed income" this year, until the economy pooped out on us.  I am ready to call it quits and retire, but now, I don't know.  Once it's fixed, it pretty much stays that way, unlike the cost of living.  Yell 

    I know elderly teachers who retired after many years of service on small pensions that won't even start to cover their expenses these days.  Makes you hope you don't live too long after you retire, doesn't it?

  • ritajean
    ritajean Member Posts: 4,223
    edited April 2009

    I have a small teacher's pension.  Unfortunately I taught 33 years in a rural area at a pretty low salary so the pension is pretty small.  I started a business on the side and paid in social security, etc. as well as working side jobs many different summers.  Nearly 1/3 of everything I made in the business (which I had for 12 years) went for SS and because I have this tiny teacher's pension, I don't qualify for the amount of SS benefits that I would have had if I hadn't taught.  It infuriates me every time I think about it.  I feel as if I'm penalized for trying to get ahead while others are getting SS benefits and haven't paid into the system.  I have a friend whose single daughter had a disabled premature baby (due to drugs) and she gets a nice check each month for the baby even though she hasn't paid into the system.  I know she needs the help but I think the system needs to be reviewed.  It was orginally set up as a retirement system for the working and I guess I'm just frustrated because now we "mature people" are still paying for the younger generation and it's hard to work all your life and then retire on a "fixed income" and still pay your insurance out of your pension....Thank goodness though I have the insurance.  I guess we can gripe and moan all we want but we just have to adapt and move on.  Hugs to all of you struggling with the money issue and insurance fears.  We don't need this extra stress.

  • nelia48
    nelia48 Member Posts: 539
    edited April 2009

    It's been really hard, but I'm on the disability income.  Since I was out of a job when diagnosed last July, I was eligible for the Woman's Breast and Cervical Cancer program, and this pays all my medical bills and perscriptions.  I haven't paid for anything since starting this cancer journey.   I never thought I would be this "poor" but have found out that it is possible the make it on a lot less than I thought.  I was shocked when the disability came though and only wish I had applied earlier!!!

  • wayover20
    wayover20 Member Posts: 445
    edited April 2009

    I am single, living alone on just SSDI which is 1/3rd of what I used to make.  Although I'm grateful for the ssdi I know I will HAVE to get back to work at least part time once my lungs improve and I'm off oxygen.  Luckily being a nurse I can work 1 day a month or 30 and my previous employer already said they'd take me back for as much as I could give.  Needless to say I won't do anything to jeopardize the ssdi benefit but they have programs in place to allow you to try to work without losing the benefit.

    But really, in this economy with the groceries costing what they do and with nothing in savings I have nothing to fall back on so no choice but to get back to earning as much as I can for as long as I can. If I was breathing well enough that would have been YESTERDAY!!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    I'm making 1/3 of what I was making last year....I'm in commission sales! I have nothing to fall back on. This economy is killing us, not because we have no sales, but because we have no stock! The company doesn't want to buy stock because then it would have to pay for it.....I have $250,000 waiting for delivery, but no stock to fill the orders.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited April 2009

    barbe,  are you aware of the Ontario Trillium Drug plan?  There is a deductable based on income level but if out-of-pocket drug expenses exceed the deductible, it can be very helpful.  The deductables are approx. 4% of net income; it would be approx. $1,400 per year for someone making $40,000, $3,000 for someone making $75,000, $5125 for someone making $125,000, etc..

    http://www.health.gov.on.ca/english/public/pub/drugs/trillium.html

    http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/forms/ssbforms.nsf/GetAttachDocs/014-S46850E-87~15/$File/TrilliumBookE.pdf

  • GEECH
    GEECH Member Posts: 140
    edited April 2009

    I'm on Medicare and a small pension and find it getting real  hard with medical bills.  The Medicare Plan D is getting worse for me.  Every time I get a script filled it is going up and up.  Also Medicare is not covering a lot of things that it did before.  I feel things are only going to get worse.

    Take care,

    Geech

  • junie
    junie Member Posts: 1,216
    edited April 2009

    I'm retired, as is DH.   We each receive a pension from our jobs and DH also gets a reduced SS benefit.  Although we receive yearly cost of living increases, they don't come close to catching up with inflation.   When we retired, we moved to a semi-retired/resort community and the fees increase each year, again far more than our annual retirement increases.  We had worked long and knew where we wanted to be when we retired.   It is doable, but we are beginning to just tread water financially.   We don't much of a savings reserve--I've lost more than half of a savings account I had through my job with the market downturn--sure hoping it picks up!    It is a scary time for all.....oh yeah--and we're both suckers when a grown kid hits a stumbling block! 

    ritajean--I hear your frustration loud and clear!!!  Most of my working years were with the fed govt--did not pay into soc sec.   After I retired, I thought to work part-time somewhere and get my qtrs so to get a little more income from soc sec--I discussed with a local rep and was told to not waste my time--I could work 'til the cows came home, pay into soc sec, and never be able to apply for SS bennies because of the offset factor.   It was kind of a pisser for me--thinking that if I worked and "paid my dues" in both sectors, I should be compensated...NOT!!!    grrrrrr...

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2009

    Thanks for the reminder Beesie, I did have to use Trillium years ago, but this job has a drug plan now. I use $500 or so a month in prescriptions alone. That's one of the reasons I'm hanging on to a frustrating job, that benefit alone is worth $6,000+ a year to me!

    On another note, the company has been lettting some of the commission sales people go in the regular retail sector. That allows the more senior ones have a chance to make money. I am the newest one in my department which is commercial sales (builders, etc) so I've been sick with worry. I am very good at what I do and have a ton of strong sales and they told me not to worry....but, the company now has to pay minimum wage if our commissions don't make it there (woo hooo, $10 an hour! I'm used to at least $30!). So, with the top-up in pay and the benefit expense (hospital stay, etc), I DO cost the company more than the next guy...though a lot of them need top-ups right now too!

    It's weird, they post our pay. There are 28 of us spread across the GTA (greater Toronto area) and our pays this 2 week period range from $10,000 at the highest to $760 at the lowest. Seems strange..... SOMEONE got their deliveries out, didn't they? I guess their builder is more important than my builder....sigh.

  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited April 2009

    We aren't really on a fixed income as I am still sort of working in real estate, but it is getting harder to work.  My husband is officially retired but still teaching one class and that helps a lot.  We do OK on the day to day stuff, but the house needs some work and I dread finding out what a new roof will cost.  The darn "check engine" light is on in the car.  That surely won't be good.  We do have a financial cushion, but it won't take too many hits to deplete that.

  • Triciaski
    Triciaski Member Posts: 145
    edited April 2009

    What I worry about is the possibility of losing medical insurance before I'm old enough for Medicare. I also worry about health care rationing to older people and others who might be considered too sick or who have too low a quality of life to spend all that money on. That is bound to happen as the government takes on the responsibility of universal health care.

    Tricia

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited April 2009

    Hi Tricia:  Canada has enjoyed universal health care for many years, and no rationing yet!  Only longer wait times for non-emergencies and elective surgeries.  But longer life expectancies than in the U.S.  Rationing destroys the underlying principle of universal healthcare.

    FYI,  Canada spends 9% of its GDP on healthcare, while the U.S. spends almost 16%.  After reading all the many posts on this website about patients fighting insurance companies, losing insurance benefits, co-pays etc., I'm very thankful I live north of the border. 

    Best, Linda

  • Latrisha
    Latrisha Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2009

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