To Soy or not to eat Soy

I don't think I've seen  anything as controversial as this subject.  So I tried to look for the more recent research. 

Everyone add in any "new" research.  I think that is the key, it has changed over the years

Flalady

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  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009

    Soy compound linked to lower breast cancer risk

    Last Updated: 2008-04-11 10:05:44 -0400 (Reuters Health)
    By Amy Norton

    NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Women with high blood levels of an estrogen-like compound found in soy seem to have a lower risk of developing breast cancer, a new study suggests.

    Researchers found that among more than 24,000 middle-aged and older Japanese women, those with the highest levels of the compound, called genistein, were only one-third as likely as other women to develop breast cancer over 10 years.

    Genistein is one of the major isoflavones, plant compounds found in soybeans, chick peas and other legumes that are structurally similar to the hormone estrogen, and are believed to bind to estrogen receptors on body cells.

    While some studies have linked soy consumption with a lower risk of breast cancer, others have found no protective effect. Some animal research, in fact, has suggested that genistein might spur tumor development and growth. The new findings, reported in the Journal of Clinical Oncology, suggest that this is not the case in women, at least when genistein is consumed through food alone.

    "This finding suggests a risk-reducing rather than a risk-enhancing effect of isoflavones on breast cancer, even at relatively high concentrations within the range achievable from dietary intake alone," write the researchers, led by Dr. Motoki Iwasaki of the National Cancer Center in Tokyo.

    The study included 24,226 women ages 40 to 69 who gave blood samples and completed a dietary assessment, then were followed for an average of 10 years. During that time, 144 women were diagnosed with breast cancer.

    When Iwasaki's team separated the women based on their blood levels of genistein at the study's start, they found that the one-quarter with highest levels were 65 percent less likely to develop breast cancer than the quarter of women with the lowest genistein levels.

    There was no risk reduction seen among women with moderate levels of the isoflavone, however.

    Most past studies on soy isoflavones and breast cancer have used dietary questionnaires, Iwasaki noted. "In contrast, our study used a direct measurement of plasma isoflavone levels, which provides not only an index of intake but also of the absorption and metabolism of isoflavone," the researcher told Reuters Health.

    Together with past studies, Iwasaki said, the findings suggest that a high isoflavone intake from food may help lower breast cancer risk.

    Whether the findings necessarily extend to women in Western countries is not clear, however. Japanese women, Iwasaki noted, typically consume soy isoflavones on a regular basis starting from a young age, which may influence the compounds' effects on breast cancer development.

    SOURCE: Journal of Clinical Oncology, April 1, 2008

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009
  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009
  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009

    http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/98/18/1275

    Again this article say it is Ok.

    Bottom line... after fifteen years they really don't know.  There is more of the benefits from all I have read?  The other thing is the only tested Soy, not natural hormones in any foods or soy naturally from foods in trials.

    Flalady

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009

    Phytoestrogens Risk

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/79/2/183

    Says no risk eating natural hormones

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009

    http://publications.icr.ac.uk/2024/

    Phytoestrongens and bone density health

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009

    Isoflavones and postmenopausal bone health: a viable alternative to estrogen therapy?

    Scheiber MD, Rebar RW.

    Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Cincinnati College of Medicine, Ohio, USA.

    OBJECTIVE: The rapidly growing postmenopausal population in the United States, and this population's high incidence and prevalence of osteoporosis and related morbidity and mortality herald an enormous public health burden for the coming decades. Estrogen replacement has been the mainstay of therapy for the prevention and treatment of osteoporosis in this estrogen-deficient population. However, long-term compliance with estrogen therapy generally is poor, and there are numerous concerns regarding its safety. The phytoestrogens are nonsteroidal plant-derived compounds that exhibit estrogenic activity at several sites. The isoflavones are one class of phytoestrogens derived largely from soy-based products. International popularity for menopausal therapy regimens containing isoflavones is growing rapidly. In this article, we review the existing data on isoflavones and postmenopausal bone health. DESIGN: A review of interventional trials examining isoflavones and bone in animals and humans. RESULTS: The data point to a reduction in bone resorption resulting from isoflavone/ipriflavone intake. CONCLUSIONS: The data on naturally occurring isoflavones are very limited but suggest that including them in the diet results in reduction in bone resorption caused by estrogen deficiency. The extensive data on ipriflavone, a synthetic isoflavone derivative, suggest that it is a useful and safe alternative to estrogen therapy in treating existing low bone mass or osteoporosis in postmenopausal women. Further studies are warranted to examine the utility of ipriflavone as a preventive agent, as well as the clinical efficacy of the naturally occurring isoflavones.

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited March 2009

    Phytoestrogens and cardiovascular health

    Lynette Wroblewski Lissin, MDa, John P Cooke, MD, PhD (FACC)aCorresponding Author Informationemail address

    Received 8 March 1999; received in revised form 24 November 1999; accepted 13 January 2000. published online 17 August 2004.

    Abstract 

    Coronary artery disease is the leading overall cause of mortality for women and increases dramatically after menopause. Estrogen has many beneficial cardiovascular actions although concerns have been raised about its effects on the progression of breast and uterine neoplasms and its tendency to increase coagulability. Selective estrogen agonists may be superior to conventional estrogens. A dietary source of a partial estrogen agonist is the plant-based group of phytoestrogens, which include isoflavones, lignans and coumestans. Phytoestrogens have a similar structure to estradiol and have weak affinity for the estrogen receptor. Epidemiologic data indicate that women ingesting high amounts of phytoestrogens, particularly as isoflavones in soy products, have less cardiovascular disease, breast and uterine cancer and menopausal symptoms than those eating Western diets. Preclinical and clinical studies have found that isoflavones have lipid-lowering effects as well as the ability to inhibit low-density lipoprotein oxidation. They have been shown to normalize vascular reactivity in estrogen-deprived primates. Furthermore, phytoestrogens have antineoplastic effects with inhibition of cellular proliferation as well as angiogenesis, properties that could be protective against cancer development. Finally, menopausal symptoms and bone density may be favorably influenced by phytoestrogens. In summary, phytoestrogens, in the form of dietary isoflavones, represent a new area to explore in pursuit of nutritional approaches to cardiovascular protection.

  • JeninMichigan
    JeninMichigan Member Posts: 2,974
    edited March 2009

    I take natural soy isoflavones daily.  

    Jennifer 

  • Reneepals
    Reneepals Member Posts: 2,196
    edited March 2009

    I Have Er Pr + breast cancer and until my onc states otherwise, I am staying away from soy, especially since I am stage 4, if I was Er Pr -, then I would feel differently

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