Starting Chemo April 2009
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Nadine,
Thanks for the information on head gear and your insights on family..Husbands can be an amazing part of all of this... I sat here and read your post and cried my eyes out... (guess I needed that today) I start chemo on the 14th of April... I am getting the haircut short tonight and stocking up on head gear...
Smiles
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Ladies sorry to butt in, but I just finished 4/AC and 12 weekly Taxol and I lived through it...it's not easy but like someone else said doable! And special note to those on Taxol, my head started getting peach fuzz on about the 7th infusion..........Also I noticed there is alot of crying going on, don't wait around for depression to get worse, get your oncologist to give you either ativan for nerves or xanax or even an antidepressant.........they will not think you're a drug addict..Most of the women on BC.org are on something for their nerves.
And drink, drink and drink more water...You will find that the sooner you flush it out of your system, the better off you are!
Good Luck and Hugs
Deb
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I'll be joining the group starting in April. Currently my first treatment of AC is scheduled for Thursday 4/3. I have to have a bone scan and CT scan before hand.
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On the note of crying and drugs. Its human nature to cry. Fear of unknown is hard...yes drugs will help. However for those of us who are waiting its hard. Once its all done we can dry the tears and let go of those fears. Myself, I fight the fears and know I have two choices, do the treatment or not. I of course chose the treatment but that doesn't help the fears. I think many of us have tears not just because of the upcoming treatments...but more the fact that finding out you have breast cancer is a hard one to swollow. Also, do keep in mind that we all may have different kinds of drugs for our chemo. In that some of us have the more drastic kinds when others may have the less evasive kinds. As I had mentioned in an earlier post, knowledge of what can happen is better for me than the unknown. The net is a good recourse for information on the drugs that the doc has ordered for the chemo. However I feel its also a good idea to express to your doctor how you feel and so on. I am a person who wants to know it all...if the effects don't happen then thats a bonus in my book...if it does then I am more prepared for it. So no matter tears or fears we still laugh, hug and so on. So here we can cry and let it all out if we need. So I march on for the wait and if need be do have the drugs on hand to calm the nerves. For me I choose to take less drugs and face it...not always strong but sure trying. And when I need additional strength I remember that I am not alone in this...maybe different chemo drugs and different side effects when it starts. So march on and keep our heads high...and always add some hugs, kisses and tons of laughter when we can mixed into our tears and fears.
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Hello all - welcome to newcomers! I am gearing up to get my first chemo cocktail on Tuesday and feel ready for it - or as ready as I will ever be. The egg harvesting was pretty much a failure so I will have to hope that my ovaries survive chemo okay.
inthemoment - I too kept waiting for someone to tell me it had all been a mistake - right up until I got the pathology results from my first operation! I think it is natural. Saying "I have cancer' feels so melodramatic that it is easy to just think that it must be a dream or a misunderstanding.
swest - thank you for visiting us! It is so reassuring to hear that we'll all make it through. I hope you're doing really really well.
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oh and Deb-from-Ohio too - thank you for your advice!
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Sakura, Hang in there girl. You'll be ok. Remember, drink water drink water drink water, and when you're done....drink some water
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Anyone currently on CYTOXAN and TAXOTERE? What are you side effects? When did you start loosing hair...or did you shave your hair and when? How long did it take to start feeling less sickly?
Hugs, kisses, and tons of sunshine to you.
Nadine
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Nadine54 I started Cytoxan/taxotere on 3/09. Hair started falling out 11 days later, but most people say between day 14 - 21. I haven't shaved my head, I cut my hair short, then shorter and shorter. I'm on day 20, still have some hair, but not very much. I mostly felt tired starting on day 3 and had bone pain from the neulasta shot (for white blood cell count). Lasted about a week. My sleep is all messed up. The nausea pills worked okay, never threw up. Keep your mouth really clean, also everything tastes funny. Got very constipated, I now have an arsenal of ex-lax etc. and won't let that happen again! Drinking lots and lots of water really helps. Side effects are weird (check out my topic: "what's your wierdest side effect?" (with weirdest spelled wrong)
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To all about crying and coping and laughing:
(Nadine)
I just want to note that I cried because of your words Nadine not because of what we are all going through..You have a way with words... It is the support from the husbands, the family members etc. that make this situation with BC more bearable. It was how that post was expressed. (very nicely) Meds are great for some but it is just adding something more to the body to react too and for our body to defend.... I have a hard time taking Excedrin... again it depends on the person and what they need or can handle... On the other hand I have come to find that my BC has taken away the attention that another family member has recieved in the past and that "person" and I are no longer getting along very well... has anyone had that experience?
Sakura: I wish you well on Tuesday and hold that head high.... positive thoughts and prayers are with you!
I cut my very long hair yesterday to a very short cute bob... My daughter is in cosmetology school and she did it for me.... after seeing your hair I thought it was time... I start chemo TACx6/18 weeks in 2 weeks.... Didnt think there was a point in waiting for the hair...
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Oh and 1 more thing... I know we have all shared what/when we were diagnosed with and when we are all starting chemo and our thoughts about chemo but one thing I would like to know more about is the experiences of what each of us had as treatment i.e. surgery, lumpectomy etc... or is that for another topic....? Not sure if everyone would be interested in doing that...
tbb
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TBB: Thank you so very much. I just say how I feel. Sometimes it just helps to vent whats on my mind. Before surgery the fear was huge, but I kept telling myself that others had went through it and by darn I was going to make it. Again, after surgery and having a Mast (left side only) I had a hard time of that, knowing I was now lop sided in my mind. I felt like a freak. I got past that and figure I can live with that. I told hubby the other night, I just look like I had been in the war.
TO EVERYONE: How about adding to our topic of things what we are doing to keep our minds busy. And for those who have joined lately let us know where you live. Like for me I live in Idaho. On what I have been doing...I hate TV so thats out other than my one soap that I record and watch, "Young and the Restless". I started the word search books, I have been working on a crochet blanket, I started making bracelets...I had four black beeds for the dead cancer that chemo will kill, it symbolizes the four treatments I will have~~~pink for BC and white for cancer free. Its time to be creative and stay busy.
Many hugs, kisses and good thoughts to everyone,
Nadine
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TBB,
I had a L MS w/TE and an implant on the R. My surgery was March 3. I am so glad I chose to have the MS, because when my path report came back it showed two other "areas" in different quadrants of my L breast that were not caught by Mamm/Ultra/MRI. What if I had chosen a lumpectomy? I see my Oncologist for the first time on Thursday, April 2 and will get my first "fill" in my TE the same day. I was diagnosed what feels like a lifetime ago and I just want to get the show on the road and start this darned chemo thing. I compare it to the interim of waiting right after your diagnosis. You know something needs to happen, but it is not happening fast enough. The rest of the world is chugging along, but you have been siderailed and don't know how to get back on track again. Waiting is SO difficult. I still haven't given into cutting my hair - I guess it may be my last act of rebellion! I do so agree with sequestering ourselves to cry when we need to, as often as we need to. There is a tremendous amount of "bravery" that is required of us when we have small children, family, friends....all of them looking to us and wondering, "How are you being so strong; you are handling this with such grace; you are such an amazing woman, to be able to do this." I want to say, "well, I guess I just have to handle this, what else would I do, roll up into a ball and give up? I want to live"! So we can be strong - we are strong, but when no one is looking, I say, "have at it girl." Then, you can compose yourself for those you love.
Tammy
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Hi all,
What have you done or what do you plan to do while you are getting your infusions? I'm starting TCx4 on Friday (Nadine54 - there are several of us starting that treatment in April) and have been told the infusion (after all the prep) takes 3 hours. They have TVs, and I have a computer and could watch movies or bring books. I know it will be really hard to concentrate, so any advice you have about good distractions would be great.
Nadine54--I like your bracelet idea as a distraction. I've had a difficult time functioning this week with the anticipation of the unknown coming up. I had a counselor show me around the infusion suite and have bugged my doc with lots of questions. However, I'm not sure having all that information helps the anxiety. I had bilat mastectomy and read all the lists and bought all the stuff and then found I didn't use most of it and needed different things, so it is hard to know how to prepare.I work outside the home, so that helps as a distraction, but I find I don't get much work done during the day because it is hard to focus.
An oncology nurse said that biotin can help the problems with fingernails on Taxotere. Has anyone tried that?
Also, has anyone ordered a wig from wigsalon.com? We have a good boutique where I live, but I didn't like the selection there and found a cute one I like on that web site. I live in New Hampshire and while close to Boston, there aren't a ton of places nearby to look at wigs and try them on.
Thanks,
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Hello all,
TBB - I am glad I inspired you! I am loving this hair cut.
I have spent far too much time in recent weeks on sites like this freaking myself out with all the bad news. I am hoping that once I have actually had a treatment I will be calmer and will be able to get on with other things.
I start tomorrow Australian time and will report in on how it goes on Wednesday (am staying in overnight). I have a bag full of things I probably won't need and am off now to the supermarket to buy lots of food I probably won't want to eat!
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Hi all, been out of town for the weekend - now I'm back home with 2 days before first treatment and it is starting to feel 'real' ... I kind of can't wait to get it started, but it is scary as well. It was the same for my surgery - while I was in pre-op, with the IV starting to hurt, I just wanted to be anywhere else.
Saw the oncologist again last Friday and decided against the TC vs TAC trial - onc really wanted me to get TAC as my tumor is so agressive and triple neg, so chemo is the one treatment option and we are not risking doing less than is possible. I did get good news that there is no sign of mets from CT or bone scan so I can officially say I'm stage 2. Onc pointed out my bone scan showed significant arthritis for my age - I said I didn't need a bone scan to tell you that - just listen to my knees!
I haven't cried much since the first couple of weeks after my diagnosis - when I did it was when I had to tell other people, or when friends were just so nice to me and I was overcome with emotion (I always cry at weddings and romantic movies...) I don't know if I am really that strong, but I can't change what I am going through, so I've decided to spend as little energy as possible on being down.
Well, on the practical side, I probably have not bought everything I should have - I have 2 more prescriptions to get - a numbing cream (Emla) to put on the port and a high-flouride toothpaste as I won't be able to use the flouride rinse my dentist normally has me use as it has alcohol in it. Stuff I would never have thought of....
I did treat myself to an iPod touch so I will have something to keep me entertained during treatment. I will also take my laptop (the clinic has wi-fi so I will be able to post real time!!) and a book, as well as DH for company. The clinic also has a patient kitchen with snacks and drinks and we are allowed to take our own food. I will be there over lunch for my treatments, don't know if I will be hungry, but I have bought fruit ices to eat during the adriamycin treatment as everyone says this helps avoid mouth sores.
Sakura, hope your first treatment goes well, and keep in touch!
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Hi April people, I'm from the march forum, I started TAC x6 march 6. I just wanted to let you all know about a program to get a free headwrap or scarf from www.franceluxe.com- Laurie over there started a program as an outreach to women going through this ordeal. Several women on the march forum have ordered their freebies from her.Check it out.
I think being able to post and share pics is really cool. Bc.org doesn't make it easy tho. You have to put your pics up on another site. (I have found photobucket.com to be the easiest). Then in order for the pic to show up in a post here, you have to click on that little picture of a tree next to the smiley face, and copy and paste in the html link from the photobucket site there. There are more detailed instructions available on here if you search.
We also started a facebook page if any of you are on there, it's easier to post pics to. If you want to join our group search facebook for "March Warrior Princesses".
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Hi everyone, I meet with my onc on Wednesday. Going to have MUGA scan tomorrow. We should be getting my oncotype score this week. May sound crazy but I'm hoping it is on the higher side so it is a no-brain decision. My onc isn't really keen on the oncotype test. He says it is too new to base a life changing decision on but will leave it up to me. I will be starting treatment in mid-April. Most likely going with AC+T then radiation. I will be having a port-a-cath put in before that so they won't have to pump the chemo into my creepy little veins. I too had my hair cut short. Everyone thinks it's really cute although nobody is going to say it looks like hell I suppose. I have been keeping my friends and family up-to-date on my caring bridge site, take a look if you like. The link is www.caringbridge.org/visit/sherrimo. They have found it to be very helpful and entertaining. It sure beats having to tell the same story over and over again. Keep you chin up everybody. Hopefully by Thanksgiving we should be all through this hell. I'm having a party when I'm done....drinks all around! Sherri
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Looks like our big days are all fast approaching! My good news is that over the weekend my period came....so now I'm onto Letroxole to boost my estrogen levels....and hopefully in 2 weeks time be done. Chemo will probably start in Week 3 sometime. I'll also be getting the port-a-cath like sherrimo. Although the port is less maintenance, the scar and pain is a little more than the port-a-cath....which only has 3 holes as scars....not as obvious as the half-arc of a dime for the port. Anyone else doing the port-a-cath?
Let's toast to our getting-well soon! As a pat-on-our-back, extra servings and drinks on Thanksgiving is a must!
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Just got back from the oncologist, who scheduled me to start my chemo (TAC) on April 9th. I'm almost "ready" (truly I will never be ready and think of this as my date of DEATH, because whatever's still going to be physically alive once this starts, will not be ME!). That is, I'm mostly done stocking up on "chemo survival supplies"-- all I need to do now is (a) fill the Ativan and Compazine prescriptions my chemo nurse gave me today/get the L-Glutamine a bc sister here recommended in a PM, and get the wig and scarf thing taken care of. Need to have my head measured first. So I need to figure out a time to do it/actually get the wig and scarf between now and the 8th, because even though it'll probably take a couple weeks for my hair to start falling out...but being very sensitive about the hair loss thing, I'd prefer having a wig and scarf right on hand here before I actually need them.What I'm dreading, in order: (1) nausea and/or vomiting. (2) chemo brain! maybe THAT should be tied as #1 of worst dreads -- my ideas of what makes life worth living ALL revolve around a sharp mind and the use of my intellect/creativity. (3) hair loss. :::::shudder::::: (4) weight gain (I'm OK now, at 5'5 135 lbs., but only if I stay where I am, and my chemo nurse told me most women gain 15-30 pounds on chemo, and that would definitely push me over my "limit"). But I can handle the idea of getting fat better than I can handle the idea of getting bald.I don't care at all about reproductive stuff -- I am childfree by choice (I got spayed in 1994) and at my age (47) perimenopausal/going nuts with menstrual irregularity, so if I never had a period again for what's left of the rest of my "life" I'd actually be glad.This is neoadjuvant chemo to prior to a mastectomy (right breast). I'm not planning reconstruction and the only thing that bothers me about the mastectomy at all is the recovery time. No idea how I'll handle that at all, because I cannot function with limited or no use of my right arm and hand, since my left arm and hand only function minimally (I'm partially paralyzed from a stroke I had 15 years ago).So OK, I'm about to start treatment (kicking and screaming, whining and complaining, but starting nonetheless). But, I do feel like I have SOME "hope" -- paradoxically, what gives me "hope" is knowing I have a way out if it gets bad enough: the fact that I bought "The Final Exit." I ordered it from Amazon.com the day I was told I was Stage IV, it arrived last week and I've read it. Even if I never use any of its instructions, just having it on my bedside table is the only thing making it possible for me to even TRY chemo. Well, I guess we all need Something, huh?Good luck to all of you. I hope you can stand it.All my heart,~Lena.
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Hi.....I am 39 years old and will have my first Chemo on April 1st. How nice would it be if they just said April Fools! You dont have cancer! HA....not counting on that. I had my port put in on Friday and it is still tender and takes some getting used to but was over all not that bad. I count on what everyone on here says about it being worth it in the long run.
I am starting 4 rounds of a trial before I do double mx. Then I will do 4 rounds AC with a year of Herceptin. ugh.....that sounds like forever, but I know I will get thru it. I was DX officially 3/2, have gone thru the battery of tests. At one point they said it looked like I had something on the bone, but the bone scan came back clean. So at this point I am still Stage IIb, 2.cm in breast and 2cm in one lymph node, possible 2-3 more nodes, ER+, HER2 Positive.
I have been handling ok....but have had my moments.....when they called me at work last week to give me the date for the first one....I was fine until I got back to my desk and then Bam....it just hit me and I had to go to the bathroom for a little crying break....it is weird how confidante I can be and still just break down at times.......
I also got a short pixie haircut last week as I was told the hair loss will start around 14th day....I agree with everyone else that I rather have the shorter stuff fall out first.....of course once that starts I am grabbing the clippers......so, add me to the April list......I love the support and advice this site offers.
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ALYAD: Did call on the head wrap and they are going to send one right out to me. Real nice people. There are no hidden charges and no shipping charges...what a cool deal. EVERYONE: I encourage everyone to take advantage of this free offer...the selection is wonderful. http://www.franceluxe.com/
Well for us April 1st start dates we are quickly approching a new land. Can't say I am excited about this but know its what must be done and ready to march on. Been trying to eat everything I love. Told hubby last night since surgery my taste buds are going nuts, everything tastes good. Wearing perfume, hairspray and even those nasty smells are enjoyable right now. Figure enjoy it while I can. Nerves are hanging in there. I think my only real problem is the unknown. We all seem to handle the chemo drugs differently so I am wishing that mine won't be to bad. But trying to keep the mind busy and just get through it and have it all done. Think I have figured out what may be needed at home. There is always something a person needs and its not on hand, but good o'l hubby will have that under control. I am planning on just taking it as it comes and doing the very best I can and sure counting down the days until I am all done. I messed around this morning with my hats. Waiting to do anything with the wigs until the wig whatever you call thems come. Suddenly in the last two days my hair decided to work with me and not against me. Wouldn't you know it 31 days after surgery and I finally get some coporation with the hair...go figure...just in time to be preparing to loose it. Oh well can't do much on that. Still tire easy from the surgery and taking a nap a day and did go back to the anxiety pills before bedtime. I am doing pretty darn good actually...sure wishing I was heading to a nice warm sunny beach for 13 weeks instead of chemo. Oh well I guess, will have relaxing music when I want it and when sleeping sure hope I have hair on that sunny beach in my dreams! So fell April folks, getting ready to gear up for our run at this chemo stuff. I wish each and everyone of you the very best and also wish everyone to hang in there, we will get through this together.
Many hugs and tons of sunshine (and those wonderful warm beaches) to everyone!!!
Nadine
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New here and just joing in .... will be starting chemo April 6th. I had a bilateral mastectomy (March) and start of reconstruction. Port was placed during surgery. Another triple-positive. No radiation (yeah!). Chemo will be TCH (Taxotere, Carboplatin, and Herceptin) for 6 treatments every 3 weeks. Then Herceptin every 3 weeks for a year and then I believe Taxol for 5 years. Trying to prepare for and hoping for not much downtime from the chemo. Seems these last 2 months all I do is go to the doctors or for tests. I have been poked, injected, scanned, and felt-up more in the last 2 months than in the past 25 years! Not looking forward to chemo but anxious to get it on with it and find out how much downtime I have.
I'm married with 2 fur babies. DH is my rock and could not have asked for more and for that I am thankful! The 2 little fur babies are my constant companions and love having mom home (and are not going to be too happy about me returning to work soon). Been reading the various posts since diagnosed and the information has been so helpful. And I'm thankful to have all you to share this time with!
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Hi again...I haven't been in here for a while so I have some catching up to do. As if starting chemo on April 14th isn't enough, my husband lost his job last week. Goodbye health insurance premiums and hello COBRA. I know I'm not the only one and there are lots of other people in the same boat, but it still sucks big-time. My best wishes to people starting next week! We'll all get through this!!!!!
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morning ladies. I started my chemo in March, Had the first one March 13 and the second March 26 they have me going every other week. Also on a trial the E5103. Taking Doxorubicin and Cyclophosphamide followed by Paclitaxel with Avastin or Placebo. I also get a Nulastea shot 24 hours after treatment. So far no sickness. but I did lose my hair fairly quickly after the second treatment.
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how do you get on the list alyad for the free head wrap. I did not see where to sign up on the web page you posted.
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moborn63 - see this page: http://www.franceluxe.com/c/headwraps/It%27s+A+Wrap.html - you need to email or call them.
Well, tomorrow is my big day! I took my first dose of decadron (dexamethasone) in preparation this morning - so far I am feeling a little light headed and have a strange taste in my mouth. I am drinking lots of water so I'm really well hydrated in advance of treatment.
Stay strong! Lou.
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Dear BC Sisters ~
I have "bumped" the thread for tips on getting through chemo. It saved me from many of the se's, largely because I was so well prepared to deal with them thanks to this thread. AND of course to our wonderful ROCK who authored the thread.
Best to you on your journey!
Nico
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Hello all,
I'm the honorary member of the April forum reporting in after my first AC treatment yesterday. I got to the hospital as directed at 11 with the lovely boyfriend in tow and was admitted to a private room rather than the day ward because I was staying overnight. Very swish!
Then there was a lot of waiting around. I had the cannula inserted around 1pm - first attempt failed, and I was told to consider getting a port. NOt sure I want one, but am booked to get it next Wed.
After that, more waiting - in the end BF and I went for a long walk in the sunshine. It was a glorious autumn day in Melbourne. Finally around 4pm I was given oral Emend, decadron and maxilon, and at 4:30 the influsion started. No problems with the A (I sucked on ice though my onco rather scoffed) which ran through in under 15 minutes, then the C took about an hour and was followed by a 12 hour fluid drip to assist in flushing it through. I also drank at least 10 litres of water. The drugs are very cold from being in the freezer - I was given a hot pack for my arm which was very comforting. The C gave very slight nasal congestion but nothing major.
Around 10:30 that night I had some nausea and was given IV Zofran. This morning a bit of a headache which paracetamol cured, and an Emend tablet. I was sent home with another Emend for tomorrow, and Zofran and Maxilon as needed. A friend collected me and we went for lunch.I fear not even chemo can take my appetite away! I scoffed down chicken and salad with no dramas at all. I have no nausea and apart from some slight heavy-headness feel quite normal. I know that the SEs are bound to hit later but so far, so good.
(I should add that after taking particular steps to avoid constipation I gave myself the opposite problem! But I would rather that than consipation I think. SO - think prunes, think senna, cos lots of the drugs and anti-nauseas cause constipation).
So as we say over on the March forum chemo is totally doable. Much warmth and good wishes to all starting this week.
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Hi, my name is Tiffany and I am 39yrs and I will be starting chemo April 10th. I had my bi-lateral mast. with reconstruction on Feb 20th. My tests all came back good except for my oncotype score, that was the monkey in the wrench for me. My score was 27 and I guess with the age factor......not so good. I just found out that I had to take chemo two days ago, and I will be the first to say it was truly the hardest day of my life so far. My shirt was soaked with my tears of disbelief, and when I reached my car to call my mom I thought it was Friday, when it was just Monday. I felt as though I couldnt think, it was heartbreaking news, I thought I was free of chemo. Today, I took my children to school ( ages 5yrs and 7yrs ) and came home and slept until 2:00. When I woke up still tired, I told myself, its time to get it together, face the music and even sing with it. I am going to do everything possible not to give this fear, disease, or chemo any of my joy. I noticed that my fear was so great it could easily cripple me, and I have to be stronger than my fear. We are all starting this together and hope we can stick together for one another thru this trying time. Family and friends can be great, but it is impossible for them to truly understand what were feeling and going through. I am thankful to have a group of women like you behind me.
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