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  • ladyjane54
    ladyjane54 Member Posts: 192
    edited March 2009

    Add me to the list of delayed tx.  Weird how this is happening to us all as we get close to the end. My dr. came in to see me  today and said can not give tx as long as I have any active infection so don't know when we will be able to do it. Bumming me out!!!  I must say the thought of tx on Thurs. feeling like I do was not much more appealling than delaying it.

    Patti

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited March 2009

    KT57: I love it, I'd have to use it every day and keep it out where I could see it

    PrincessKauai59: congratulations on getting taste buds back--I'm further out then you and have had minimal improvement in that area

    LadyJand54: I'm so sorry to hear that.  I can't imagine how hard it must be.  I think its happening at the end because things start to accumulate (SE) or wear down (WBC), pulling for all of you trying to finish right now.  

  • KM47
    KM47 Member Posts: 65
    edited March 2009

    Hi everyone,

    I've been busy with work this month so haven't had a chance to visit the boards in a while. Right now I'm lying on a bed in the oncology unit receiving Herceptin. When it's done soon they'll give me the Doecetaxol (Taxotere). Am nervous about side effects from both drugs, but one thing I've learnt from reading these posts is everyone is different so I'll just have to wait and see how I react.

    They told me it'd be a long day today since they have to keep me for a few hours to make sure I don't react to the Hereptin so that's why I brought my laptop. What I'd really like to do is sleep but the extra steroids I'm on make that impossible unfortunately. I was still awake in the wee hours this morning...

    Thinking of you all.

  • BerkeleyKim
    BerkeleyKim Member Posts: 390
    edited March 2009

    Love the Mug!

    LadyJane--hope you feel better soon, and the antibiotics kick in.

    KM47--good luck with the Herceptin and taxol. A friend of mine has been getting the Herceptin and will be getting it for several weeks. So far so good for her--and I wish you the best too.

    PrincessKauai--The Optimum Health Institute sounds interesting. My son is graduating in June from UCSD, but my rad onc. will only give me one day off. I'd love to spend a week in a healthy environment, pampering myself.

    I did a bit of detox today. Went with my big kids on over a three mile hike in Marin to the beach. I'm sore but feel pretty good, and the walk definitely helped clear out the rest of my cold (I hope). Was so beautiful this afternoon, and clear. What I need to remember is to pee when I have the chance since I'm drinking so much water.

    Night all...

  • Renrel
    Renrel Member Posts: 497
    edited March 2009

    Hey all.  I have spent the day around my hospital today.  I wanted to get my blood drawn in advance of tomorrows infusion. 

    LadyJane- I am sorry for your delay.  I hope you are healthy enough to move forward very soon. 

     KM47 - I hope your infustion was restfully boring and that SE's are non existant or at least minimal. 

    BerklkeyKim - The walk sounds wonderful. I envy you the beach and warm weather.  Spring weather of 50 degrees or warmer keeps teasing us in Boston and than going into hiding. 

    I noticed two signs on the wall, one for a free one day class for patients and caregivers in accupressure and massage that I signed up for and another for a free class in pilattes for breast cancer patients.  It starts in May and I am going to be doing round 6 than so I am hoping I will have the energy and that I can get myself up early enough to get to the clas by 9am.  I am also signed up for a gentle strenthing class that starts in April.  Keeping busy seems to help me keep up my energy but I also can't over do it. I ran into one of my bc support group members and she will be around tomorrow and said she would come visit me in infusion and I ran in the art therapist who will be around the unit from 11-1 tomorrow and promised to stop by and set me up with a project.  I plan to wear my pink wig tomorrow so I should be easy to find.  Fun things like this don't lift my spirts as much as they did but I think they are still worth the effort. If people around me smile and laugh and can approach me I will feel happier.

    I found out today that I am approved for LTD.  The first payment will be minimal since I was getting vacation and sick time but I should get full coverage starting next month. That was good news.

    Last night DH woke up and could not sleep. I found him watching TV around 3am.  I stayed and watched the end of the program with him and then we both went to work.  I am worried about his sleep patterns. He has been waking like this for a long time and the stress of lack of sleep is effecting him.  We have been staying up till watching tv since I started a ritual of having tv and cookies while watching Frazier and Sex in the City.  The last episode of the series is tonight so maybe we can go to bed after Frazier now. I really like that we have this ritual but I don't like our sleep patterns.  Up till midnight everynight and sleeping till 10 or later on weekends which blow the day.  

    I was reading a magazine I found at the hospital called Caring4Cancer.  There was an intersting article about Melissa Etheridge who did a tv concert that did not hide her bald head when she was going through bc treatment.  She talked about being true to yourself and not to the fear.  " I can be afraid of what I look like. I can be afraid of making people feel uncomfortable.  I can be afraid of being exactly who I am, which is a [canser] survivor who just finished treatment. Or I can choose love over fear."  She talked about how she spent three weeks in bed where she did not even have the strenth to be read too. All she could do was think.  She ran through her life story 3 times.  Then finally there was nothing coming anymore. Her mind was still.  She had nothing to worry about, nothing to do, so she just stopped thinking and found this incredible peace.  This is the same thing I have been reading about over and over in various books.  The inner peace that is there if you can just stop thinking.  She also said "This is the time to make your life about you.  Canser is an opportunity to completely change anything in your life you wish were different.  What if you could have those three wishes from the genie lamp?  Think of canser that way. All those thoughts that are in the back of your head, move them to the front. They need to be heard. Those are the thoughts that are guiding you toward creating happiness.  And that is our purpose in life: to create happiness."  

     There was another article about the journey thought canser, based on the book by the same name.  There are, according to this article, by a onc who also saw a family member through cancer, seven levels of healing.  Different steps on the road to healing from canser

    1) Education and Information- basic knowledge and inforamtion about canser and treatment

    2) Connection with others- importance of finding support and connections with others

    3) The body as Garden- regarding the body as a precious and wonderously complex garden rather than just a machine

    4) Emotional Healing-explores the transformative power of releasing fear, pain, and anger.

    5) The nature of mInd- how our entire experience of life is profoundly influenced by our thoughts, beliefs and the meaning we give to events

    6) Life Assessment- explores aspirations, goals, and purposes of our lives

    7) The nature of spirit - embraces the nonphysical dimensions of our being that exist beyond time and space, and even beyond illness and health.

     I am not sure I follow the whole theory but I thought some of you might find it interesting.

    There were also good articles on Managing Side Effects, Getting Your Financial Bearings, Will Working Work for You, Managing Cancer with other Chronic Conditions, Sexuality & Cancer, Whatever moves you (exercise) and several other interesting topics.  It is a free magazine.  If your doctor or center does not have it you can suggest they get copies for free by visiting Caring4Cancer.com.

    I think that is it for now. 

  • KM47
    KM47 Member Posts: 65
    edited March 2009

    Hi,

    Just as quick note to say thanks for your good wishes. It's mid-morning the day after my 1st taxotere (but 4th chemo) and 1st Herceptin treatment and so far I feel fine. The steroids had me awake to the wee hours again but once I went to sleep I slept soundly until about 7am. I feel incredibly tired but the breakfast steroids mean I still don't feel sleepy. They will wear off around lunchtime I'm guessing (judging by my recent patterns) so am hopeful I can get a nap in then. Luckily I work from home so can juggle my hours to suit my sleep patterns. I finish the steroids tomorrow so hopefully will be sleeping normally again by Friday night.

    Only thing I've had so far has been a sore neck last night - not sure if it was a side effect or the way I was lying but two Panadol got ride of it in 30 minutes and I have no aches or pains so far this morning. 

    Thinking of you all and sending out good vibes.

    K.

    PS - my oncology nurse yesterday recommended nail hardener and dark nail polish to prevent nail splitting. Has anyone tried either/both of these? My nails were fine with my first three treatments (of FEC) but it sounds like they may not be with the taxotere.

  • holtbolt
    holtbolt Member Posts: 625
    edited March 2009

    Welp, I'm happy to report that I got through treatment #4 today without an allergic reaction to Taxotere (after having one on #2 and #3).  Adjusted premeds, extra steroids and slowing the drip seemed to do the trick.  I am so relieved I can't tell you... just to get through the day was a huge accomplishment.. it was a very stressful day.  The onc told me before it started that if I had any problem with Taxotere again we would definitely stop at 4.  If I didn't, she would agree to do 2 more rounds.   They have #5 scheduled ... I'm not sure I'm going to do it... but it's scheduled.  Just taking it one day at a time... 

    KT57 - I WANT THAT MUG...!!  Where can I get one? LOL

  • Renrel
    Renrel Member Posts: 497
    edited March 2009

    Km47  and hotbolt - So glad to hear you are both doing well so far this time around!  I go in for number 4 tomorrow. 

    I will see my Oncologist for the first time since I was hospitalized.  The NP covered the pre-infusion meeting for rounds 2 and 3. 

  • kt57
    kt57 Member Posts: 425
    edited March 2009

    HoltBolt:   Been thinking about you all day ...  So happy to hear this one went well...what a relief!  I took the mug to work --- covered a few letters with pink ribbon stickers - ya just never know who finds what offensive these days.   My boss laughed at it...that was a good thing. 

    Renrel:  thanks for all your writing -- I find it very helpful in this journey.  You have an awesome array of services.   Hope all goes well with round four tomorrow.

    Am gearing up to start the steroids tomorrow for round 5 on Thursday. Been feeling really good  since Sunday.  Not as many days of feeling good this time, but am grateful for these past several days.  Feels like I have re-gained the physical and emotional strength to get through another round.

    Hang in there everybody!   We will all get throught this!

  • Alo123
    Alo123 Member Posts: 308
    edited March 2009

    I am off to my final round of chemo this morning.  It's hard to believe.  met with the onc yesterday and the next step will be an AI probaby Arimadex in 3 weeks.  I will also try to get into a clinical trial for a biophosphate for keeping bones strong.  From what I understand this can help in fighting of future bone mets.   I'm going to try everything I possibly can to keep a reccurence at bay.....

  • ladyjane54
    ladyjane54 Member Posts: 192
    edited March 2009

    walking three miles!!!! The thought wears me out.  I am still getting out of breath walking the 5 feet to the bathroom. Have seen some improvement, but as the drs. promised it is going slow.  Day five in the hospital.  I think I am getting better because I am starting to think about getting out of here.  I have resigned myself to the fact that I am probably not going to be able to do much for a while after leaving here, but it would be nice to be home.  Really starting to worry about DH who has everything on his plate now. He is a saint and does not complain. Seems to be handling it all but I worry he is going to collaspe one day.

    I have never been seriously sick in my entire life and I think this bout with double pneumonia is worse than any SE I've had from the canser txments.  Not being able to breath really really sucks.  I have a renewed sympathy for asthmatics..which two of my four children are.  I had no real idea what they were going through during an attack until now.

    Missing a lot of work now.  DH really wants me to take the rest of the school year off.  I'm  thinking about it.  I may be forced to anyway as the dr. tells me it will take a long time (weeks) before I  recover and school is getting near the end of the year.

    Holtbolt - So glad to hear you got through #4 without reaction.  I had  bad SEs after first taxotere. Have not really even had chance to discuss them with my dr. as I got sick almost immediately after 1st treatment. What kind of allegeric reaction did you have?  I am not sure at this point if mine was an allegeric reaction or just SEs.  I do know I am bummed that my second tx. is on hold, but at the same time I am scared to death of having it.

     I hope all of you who have finished up will continue to post and let us know how you are doing and that yes...there really is health after tx.

    Good day to all.

    Patti

  • holtbolt
    holtbolt Member Posts: 625
    edited March 2009

    Patti, I'm so sorry to hear about your pnemonia.  That all pretty much sucks....:(  Allergic reactions pretty much happen during the infusion if you are going to have one.... for me the first one was more violent than the second... but I couldn't breathe, my head got very hot, I saw spots, my stomach was thrashing... not fun... but I think it only happens to 5-7% of us... figures I'd be one of them... but I'm thrilled to have gotten my 4th one in yesterday without it happening again.... so it proves it can be avoidable with some adjustments and restarted even it happens.... anyway.... hang in there Patti..... I hope you get back on schedule soon....

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited March 2009

    ALO123--whoohooo!!!  Off to your last!  That's gotta feel good. 

    Holtbolt-How many tx of taxotere have you had?  I finished one and at day six, I still ache.  I finally am able to move around a bit,albeit just a little and then I feel so fatigued! From what I can tell, the reactions also seem to happen differently for everyone.  some say the second tx, some say the first....I will make sure the nurses put the drip in slowly this next time and I have plenty of benadryl, steroids and/or whatever.  I took vicodin for the pain, but ended up with a huge stomach ache and so stopped them...I forgot about the l glutamine for the neuropathy?  for the pain? 

    LadyJane-I am thinking about you and hoping for a soon to be trip home.  So sorry you have to be in the hospital for so long. 

    km47-- Hi old Fec buddy!  Isn't it great to have the nasty taste out of your mouth?  Did your nails turn into black streaks?  My thumbs did and so did my big toes.....I am going for the hard as nails polish to protect them.  My oncologist suggested bag balm for the dry cracked effect as we go along  .  so far my nails are just streaked from the FEC. 

    I have no hair yet---some people have mentioned their hair grows in a bit when taxotere starts. 

    Kt57--How's the weather in Wisconsin?  In Michigan we are fairly cold in the morning, but have been warming up to the high 40s and 50s for a bit.  Spring is on its way!!!  Smile

    Thinking of all of you.  Jess

  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited March 2009

    six down, two to go. today was chemo #6 of 8 - 1 mg kytril, 25mg benadryl, 20mg decadron, and 265mg taxol. i had an allergic reaction to the taxol and it had to be stopped for a while. frightening. i had horrific spinal pain and my chest got really tight. the nurse stopped the transfusion and called my doc.  then i had 25mg additional benadryl and then slowly continued with the taxol. the infusion took 6 hours today . of course my son matt was with me for the first hour or so, and the rest of the time i tried to sleep. tomorrow i will have the neulasta shot to boost the white blood cell count, and then the side effects will kick in and stay with me for about eight days, if it's anything like the last chemo--severe bone pain, neuropathy in the hands. but after a week or so, i will probably feel pretty good again. glad to have only 2 left.

    made my appt for radiation mapping on may 4. then one to two weeks later i'll have 36 treatments of radiation--the new TomoTherapy machine.

    my surgeon sent me to a facility for my mammograms, MRI, biopsy, and said her scheduler would make sure it was a place my insurance covered. but she didn't. i ended up with a $6,000 bill for out-of-network services. can you believe it--the place wrote the entire amount off when they found out what happened and i don't have to pay a dime. i'm in shock!

    i hope everyone has a week with very few side effects! 

  • Alo123
    Alo123 Member Posts: 308
    edited March 2009

    I'm done and it feels so good.  Of course I'll have to make it through the weekend.  I hope the adrenalin pulls me through with little side effects.  At least I know the dark moments  I felt in the past about having to go again, should be gone.  I just got a call from the PS and my exchange surgery will be May 21. 

    I am very happy today.....I can't wait for all of the January jewels to be in the same boat....than we can talk about how our hair is growing in!

  • Renrel
    Renrel Member Posts: 497
    edited March 2009

    I had number 4 of 6 today.  It went well but I am very tired so I will keep this short.  I wore my pink wig and it was a big hit with everyone. I highly rrecommend one if you want to make friends and have every nurse come and visit you during infusion. I actually had visitors for most of my infustion today.  First a friend from support group came by for an hour. Then someone sitting with her father came over because having done bc a few years she could not watch the drip of the red devil. The my social worker came by.  Then I got a call from one of my best friends.  then a call from my DH.  That left a hallf our or so to amuse myself. 

    I have some more to share about what my doctor had to say about Tomsiphen and some other stuff but not tonight.  

    Wishing you all no or slight SE and upbeat throught. 

  • kt57
    kt57 Member Posts: 425
    edited March 2009

    Jess- only high 30s today -- nasty wind. Felt my wig lift a little in the wind on the way into the grocery store - wouldn't that have been an amuzing sight!-- just have to laugh.  Don't think you can predict entirely what each cycle of chemo will bring - each has been different for me.  My third was the easiest.  We'll see what tomorow's #5 brings...

    Alo123 --- congrats on being done ---- can't wait to be youSmile!

    ddlatt---  sorry to hear about the reaction....really stinks.   They'll figure out how to pre-medicate so it doesn;t happen again.   Think you and I will start radiation about the same tine (if I'm able to stay on schedule)

    LadyJane - hope your pneumonia is resolving and you get home soon.   Take care of yourself.  Your DH can handle what he needs to....work will be there, your focus needs to be you now --- 

    Renrel: when I finished 4, and I was doodling in meetings at work, I would make 6 of every doodle and cross out 4 -- a visual that more are behind than ahead.  hope this one goes well for you,  wishing I had a pink wig for tomorrow !!   

    HoltBolt : hope you are doing well and your FLS days are mild, or better yet, absent!.

    KM47 -  am on day one of steroid mania --- know exactly what you are saying.  Ativan helps a bit.

    Well wish me luck tomorrow.  Plan to put my hands on ice, plug in the IPod and listen to some healing meditation.  

  • KM47
    KM47 Member Posts: 65
    edited March 2009

    Hi there everyone,

    Two days out from my first Taxotere (which started after three previous FEC treatments) and my first Herceptin and I still feel okay. KT57, I took my lost two steroids last night so the wired feeling is starting to wear off and I managed a wee nap this afternoon after a couple of work appointments. I hope your treatment went well and you can get past the steroid mania soon too! (I also find my iPod invaluable at my treatments -- I listen to Lost podcasts rather than meditation though I have to admit!)

    Am thinking of all of you who have had to have treatments delayed due to infection/illness. It seems so unfair when you already have so much to put up with but I guess it's an indication of how much we are putting our bodies through. Patti I hope you feel better soon. Sending you good vibes.

    Holtbolt - I'm so pleased to hear you got through your treatment without any allergic reactions this time. It is scary to read about them but also reassuring to know that they can change the way they do things and what else they give you to mitigate against it in future treatments.

    Renrel, thanks for your interesting posts - really fascinating stuff in there.

    Jess - yes you are so right about that funny taste! I never quite figured out how to explain it. It wasn't metallic...it was oh I don't know but it was odd. I found lemonade iceblocks and fruit burst bubble gum made it better but that was about it. I love tea and even cups of tea for that first week after FEC didn't give me the pleasure I normally get from them. I haven't had any aches from the taxotere but then again I don't have that drug for white blood cell counts like you do and also I'm only at day two (but hoping I'd have had the side effects by now if I was going to). No, I didn't have any probs with my fingernails with FEC but the oncology nurse thought I might with taxotere. So I bought some nail hardener and some dark red nail polish at the pharmacy this afternoon, so fingers crossed I might be able to prevent it or at least slow the effects. It'll be interestimg to see how we both go. I think we must have read the same post about hair coming back! I started peering in the mirror to see if I could notice any difference! I think my eyelashes are starting to fall out now. My eyebrows are still there but I think they are thinning -- I haven't had to pluck them in weeks. It's funny though how I'm more focused now on it all growing back - perhaps a side effect of having four of six treatments done...you start thinking further ahead maybe?

    Ddlatt, good luck with the radiation. I won't know until  early next month if I will have radiation treatment. Am in two minds -- part of me wants everything they can throw at me and part of me would like to just get on with some normalcy. However, I'll go with what the professionals recommend - I don't want to have regrets further down the track.

    Alo123 -- well done! Can't wait until we are all joining you celebrating the final one.

    Has anyone here had a test for the breast cancer gene? I'm going to have one soon and although I'm nervous about the result (because it could mean my female relatives also carry it and that I may require more surgery - maybe removing my other breast and ovaries) it's good to be able to find out I guess. Just wondered if it's something offered to you guys in the US as a matter of course or something you need to ask for.

    Bye for now.

    K.

  • KM47
    KM47 Member Posts: 65
    edited March 2009

    Thought you guys might be interested in this piece a friend of mine wrote a couple of years ago. He has lymphoma but has quite an interesting - positive - take on life since being diagnosed.  I certainly could relate to a lot of it:

    http://publicaddress.net/3510#post

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited March 2009

    ANybody on TAXOTERE having toe pain and red streaks on the skin?  I'd probably better get it looked at.  Gosh, I hope this will soon go away!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ddlatt
    ddlatt Member Posts: 448
    edited March 2009

    KM47 - my birth mother and grandmother both had breast cancer and died when it spread to the bone, so i am definitely having the BRCA blood test. if it's positive, i'll have a hysterectomy. i've already had a double mastectomy. in the U.S. it's offered, but it's very rare that insurance companies pay for it, and sometimes people are hesitant to have the test and have it on their records because they don't want their insurance companies to know about the results. but in order to get the hysterectomy, you have to have the positive result on the record in order to get the insurance company to pay for the hysterectomy. the BRCA test costs about $3,000, so many women just can't afford it. as usual, the U.S. "health" system has all its priorities messed up and is a big joke. 

  • PLUTZ
    PLUTZ Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2009

    I have a lot of catching up reading all the posts. just spent 6 days in the hospital. Had pneumonia, bladder infection, low blood pressure and high fevers. Had chest xray, cat scan and ekg which alll came out ok. Had so much bloodwork done. Had 4 blood transfusions, antiobiotics were changed constantly because of my fever. It just would not go away. When it did drop some a couple of hours later it would be back up again. I just felt so sick and drained, I honestly felt like I may not get out of the hospital. I came home yesterday afternoon. Very weak. Had to catch up on my sleep because you sure don't get it in the hospital. My taxotere treatment is tomorrow but had to have it postponed. I'm on antibiotics for a week. I'm hoping I'll recoup in a few days. Chemo is nothing compared to what I went through and my family. They were so worried. I will get better.

    ladyjane54- I feel for you. I hope your feeling better.

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited March 2009

    Plutz, my sympathies, hope you feel better soon and the fear fades.

  • holtbolt
    holtbolt Member Posts: 625
    edited March 2009

    Phyllis - I am so sorry.... that is just not fair.  I hope you feel better now that you are home.

    Jrgolomb - I just had tx #4 on Tuesday.  #5 and #6 are "optional" and #5 is scheduled but I have not made my decision on doing the other two... thought I'd see how I get through this one.  

    KM47 - I had the BRCA1, BRCA2 gene test done.  I have alot of breast cancer in my family (mom, 2 maternal aunts, a maternal cousin).  Luckily it came back negative.  It was $3800.  My insurance sent a check for $2600 and the lab that does it has informed me they will appeal the balance and if that doesn't work, they have grants available to take care of any balance.  It's expensive, yes, but is a good tool to use in determining treatment.  I was very glad not to have to tell my sisters that I had the positive gene.  At least the genes they know of that cause it... I'm not convinced there aren't other genes that cause BC that have not yet been identified.

    For everyone who is on their last round.... congratulations!!!! Time to heal!!

  • ladyjane54
    ladyjane54 Member Posts: 192
    edited March 2009

    Well it is Thursday and my treatment is not going to happen.  I have very mixed emotions about it. Part of me is very upset at the delay but the other part of me knows there is no way I would tolerate treatment very well today in my present state of health.  I am starting to feel better and the walk to the bathroom is not quite as hard as it use to be.  They tried to take me off oxgen yesterday for  awhile  but my levels dropped too much and had to go back on it.  My fever is finally gone ( 2 days now) so that it good news.  Day 6 of this hospital stay and I think I am really going to miss the hospital bed and its easy up and down when I leave lol.  Won't miss the food much.  Although the longer I stay here the better it gets...

    JESS:   I did not have painful toes but could not walk for a few days due to painful feet.  The soles felt like they were on fire.   Did not have red streaks on skin but did get a  rash on legs, arms and hands that was pretty bad.  Have pictures but not sure how to post them.  I'll ask my DH later to see if he knows how.  The rash was pretty nasty looking.  Should have yours looked at.  They gave me steriod cream to apply to mine.

    About the gene test - the very first dr. I saw after surgery who was the radiologist talked to me about that test and said it may be something I would want to think about as there is history of bc in the family.  Haven't thought much about it since then. I am not sure I want to know, but I do have two daughters so I may need to do it.  If I have it does it mean they will?  I really haven't read up on it much.  Perhaps I will while I sit here waiting to get better.

    My "baby" turns 13 on the 29th and I am hoping I am out of the hospital by then.  Say some prayers for me.  I do not want to miss his birthday.

    Good luck to all having treatment this week.  Hope all goes well.  Patti

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited March 2009

    LadyJane--I so feel for you.  LOL, on the comment you made about the hospital food.I wish you luck.  What an ordeal.

    I had the gene test.  They told me if it came back positive, they recommend that all "blood" relatives have the test.  Then they said my daughter would have to have lots of tests to see if she has it......This would of course happen over the years.  omigod-the angst of it all.....You know, I am going to asks to have my other breast removed because I just don't want to be another statistic.  With the type of breast cancer i have, a third of ALL women will get cancer in the other breast.  I feel like I am a sitting duck-may get shot, may not-never know when it is gonna hit, but always live in fear.  won't getting rid of the other breast eliminate some of the risk? 

    I don't know, it is different for everyone....BUT what do you ALL think?

  • Renrel
    Renrel Member Posts: 497
    edited March 2009

    I started to post and it got lost. errrr.  Here are a few shout outs, I am tired so forgive me if I miss any.

    LadyJane - So glad to here the fever is gone. I feel certain that you will soon be off the oxygen and out of the hospital.  6 days is a long time and hospitals are designed to treat illness not for us to heal.  You will feel stronger once you are home and allowed to sleep through the night and have you own pillows and blanket and all that is meaningful to you near by.

    Pluztz - Dang!  I hate to hear about another Jewel in the hospital.  Glad you are out and can really start to heal now.

    KM47 - Great article.  Thanks for sharing.  Glad you enjoy my posts.  I did have the breast cancer gene test - I forget which one but it is specific to the cancer Jewish woman are prone to.  It was unlikely that I had it since family history is not very strong, - Maternal Great aunt had full blown cancer with a masectomy but I don't know the details and my Maternal Aunt - same blood line, had in situit (sure I spelled that wrong).  Then me.  But I wanted to know because it would put me at risk for ovarian canser. I came back clean.

    Jrgoloom-  The only toe pain I have is in the nail beds.  But I do have some soreness, on and off on the soles of my feet, mostly the balls.  My onc said is is likely at bit of nueopathy. Some feel pain some feel numb.  He recommended taking vit b-6, which I have been but not regularly.

    KT57 - Thanks for the doodling trick. I am thinking of this as being finished with the required doses and going for the bonus ones since I have done so well.  Go get yourself a Pink wig girl. I can't tell you what fun it was.  Only cost me $20 (after I balked at spending more money on yet another head covering and the salesman knew I was bald from canser.  Otherwise it would have been $28.)

    OK I think I covered everyone who was not just responding to someone else. If not I apologize. I did not omit you intentionally.  Blame it on Chemo brain and fatigue on day 2.

    I talked to my doctor yesterday about genetic testing for the CYP62d6 enzyme in relation to using Tamoxifen.  He said it is very controversal because they are not sure that being a poor metabolizer makes a diffference in how well the tamoxifen works.  He said he would think about it until we meet again and suggested I read up.  He gave me an article that can be found at this site

    http://breast-cancer-research.com/contents/9/2/103

    I haven't read it yet but he said it is a good place to start.  He also told me that if I don't do Tamoxifen then I need to take something to supress my ovaries. Which was what I was also told I would have to do if I skipped chemo.  Of course then I was speaking to a lady in the infusion center yesterday who when though A/C several years ago and she told me that she got uterine cysts and than cancer from the tamoafin.  She did not even have symtoms for the cancer but she insisted on a sonogram and they found it.  Anyway she said her doctors made it sound like it was very rare but the nurses said it happens all the time. So more stuff to look into.

    I also have been looking at my remaining hair, thin and prickly though it may be and thinking, if those hairs are hanging on what about any possible canser calls. So I asked him about why they tell us that no SE are not a sign the chemo is not working. I believed him but wanted the reasons behind it. He explained that different cells have different sensativity to the drugs.  Canser cells are very senstive, hair folicals and guts cell are less sensative and vary in sensativity and skin cells are even less sensative.  Health cell can also repair themselves.  Canser cells because of their gentic breakdown can not. 

    I was also told that a glass or two of grapefruit juice or a table spoon or two of apple cider vinigar are OK.

    I have had a bump on my scalp for ages that I have ignored, other then when I try to wear a bike helmet and it hurts, since Iam prone to cysts.  Since I am less inclined to ignore lumbs now and my scalp is pretty much bare anyway I had him take a look.  He says it is a cyst and I don't have to do anything about it.  But I will talk to my PS about cutting it out when I get my implants. It would be nice not to have pain when I wear a helmet.

    I think that covers what I learned yesterday. Hope some of it is of use to some of you.

    I have a nuelasta shot in a half hour.  I am in the canser resoure room of my hospital.  I am starting to learn to knit through their knitting hour but the writing therapy workshop was canseled so I have been blogging away on here instead.

    Hope everyone is feeling healing energy entering their bodies today and bringing them closer to the end of this part of our journey. 

    Renrel

  • lisalisa
    lisalisa Member Posts: 824
    edited March 2009

    I'm sorry I've been so out of touch....just busy with the kids.

     My 5th chemo (T/C) was on Tuesday.  I had them do it slow and it went fine.  This was also the first round where I was able to sleep while on decadron.  That made a huge difference.

    So yesterday, I had a great day....went for a 2.5 mile walk, worked in my son's classroom and even went to a movie with a girlfriend.  Today I'm dragging.....and feel a tiny bit nausous.  But, mostly I think I'm constipated (sorry if TMI).  I got out of my routine and forgot to take my daily miralax for a few days.  So, this too, will be remedied soon.

    Hotlbolt - so glad your latest infusion went well.  whew!!!!

    Alo123 - congraulations on being done! that is awesome!  celebrate!!!

     Ladyjane - I'm so sorry for all your problems!  I certainly hope that you are better soon and able to celebrate your baby's b'day!  My son turns 10 in a few weeks and I'm trying to get his party together....with a chemo delay, it just made my schedule all out of whack.  I want to feel GOOD at his party....double digits and all LOL!

    Ddlat - good luck w/radiation!

    to all.....I did the BRCA testing....just had to!  i wanted to know for my daughter, my sister, my niece, etc.  Luckily, my insurance DID PAY.  they paid for the entire thing!  and I was negative.  i really recommend the test as it helps make other decisions!  i would have had a full hysterectomy if I was BRCA positive.  as it is, still considering getting my ovaries removed.

    i hope i didn't miss anyone.  chemo brain here LOL!

  • Alo123
    Alo123 Member Posts: 308
    edited March 2009

    Sorry to Phyllis and Ladyjane!!!  I hope you feel better soon.

    I did have the BRCA test...I am BRCA1 positive.  WHich is why I removed both breast and the ovaries.  I did not do the full hystrectomy. Mostly scared of the OC....  My insurance took care of the entire cost.

    I hope everyone else is doing well this week....time to rest over the weekend.

  • BerkeleyKim
    BerkeleyKim Member Posts: 390
    edited March 2009

    Alo123--CONGRATS on being done. Hooray!!!!!

    LadyJane and Phyllis--So glad you're both home from the hospital and now able to get some rest and good food, and be with your kids. I'm sure delaying tx is so disappointing. We want to get it over with, but in the larger picture please get healthy and I hope you can get back on with treatment very soon.

    Holtbolt-glad there's no side effects this time. Scary.

    Renrel--thanks for the steps to healing. Very thoughtful. I was also wondering about the hair hanging on and if the tx was working. Thank you for asking and sharing.

    KM47-loved the link. Inspiring.

    Lisa-glad you're feel so much better and walking again.

    I feel like I've run a marathon after the walk with my kids Mond. Went out again yesterday, which was good to get my sore muscles moving. But today at school I had to walk so much around campus, rushing, getting paperwork/testing done before my "long" weekend. I'm wiped out, and feel guilty for missing my 3 classes of students doing Hispanic culture month performances. Just can't do it. Plus. DS is flying back to school tomorrow and I want every minute I can have with him (of course he's now out playing soccer with high school buddies!)

    I'm starting to feel like chemo day is "my" day to sleep and just relax. Strange...

    STEROIDS::: What can I do to avoid the emotional let down on the 2nd day after tx. I've come to expect it, but I really hate feeling so sad. I might try coffee and advil this time.

    I haven't had the gene test. I'm going to ask. I feel like there's been a lot of cancer in my family (dad, brother, grandmother, uncle), but I don't know if that would be the same gene you all are having tested. My surgeon didn't seem to think I should have it as I was post-menopausal but it sounds like I could still have it. I'm worried sick for my DDs.

    I'm so happy my kids are home from college. Having all 3 acting like kids, laughing, fighting makes me treasure each moment and feel so grateful for so many joys. My son (21) told me he just can't believe still I have breast cancer and he doesn't want me to die. His girlfriend's mom has Huntington's disease (definitely fatal by around age 50), and my older DD (19)'s boyfriend's mom has met. bc. They just feel it's so unfair, but I told them I'm definitely feeling great and fighting this disease, and they can expect me to be around a long time (they are also so worried cuz their dad had a stroke last year, which he has mostly recovered from).

    I guess my best gift to them is to be positive and strong.  Anyhow-----I'm rambling! Thanks for listening.

    kim

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