Angry rant-Please tell me if I am being a jerk!

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  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited March 2009

    Rubybuttons: I needed to hear someone else say that about their husband today.  Mine has been so good through this, but the last several days, yes, things going back beyond my reach, the help just not there.  I finally had a meltdown today.  Moving things and wanting them to be back to normal is not making me heal faster!!!

  • ghety
    ghety Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2016

     hugs to you kmmd! 

    My meltdown happened last nightWink

  • BMac
    BMac Member Posts: 650
    edited March 2009

    Great thread.  I could have written the original post.  My selfish moment was on January 23rd.  I had to go to my family doctor and then I was going out to run errands...things I needed, things I wanted, just a fun day to myself.

    Well, a half hour before I'm about to leave my FIL calls because he needs to see his doctor, different doctor, same office.  I'm going at 10:00, he's been told to get there before 10:30 and they'll fit him.  So I pick him up and we both go and, of course, I'm finished before him and have to wait.

    Then I take him home to my place and because he had to leave earlier than expected he hasn't had breakfast so I make it for him.  Then he realizes he's left his meds (that he brought to show the doctor what he's taking) at the doctor's office so back I go to get them.

    When I get back hubby's home but I still can't go out because now we only have the one car (memory is shot but I guess my son went somewhere with the other car when DH got home) and the upshot is that the doctor is going to put my FIL in the hospital so we're just waiting for that call.

    I was beside myself with rage.  As usual I have to give up my plans.  I was also feeling guilty; my FIL's 88 and not feeling well and it's not his fault.  I was just so frustrated and upset.  Like I said to my husband "The one time I want to go out I can't.  Everyone else always comes before me."  Anyway, 16 days later my FIL was dead.  So now I feel even worse.

  • marshall2000
    marshall2000 Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2009
    Barbara: Please don't feel bad. You wanted the day to yourself, nothing wrong with that. Your FIL needed you and you were there for him,you obviously cared for the gentleman.That doesn't mean you couldn't still be irritated because your plans were thwarted. I am sorry for your family's loss, but your feelings and words did not cause his death and you can't feel bad or guilty. Hope your feeling better soon and i am sending "alone time" wishes your way.Smile
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2009

    This is what's so nice about this board.  we can say it here, because we have all felt it.  we are the only one's who truly knows what if feels like to have this disease.  i had a bilateral mastectomy and when i look in the mirror i look at myself how God looks at me and i see that as beautiful.  you HAVE to preserve yourself.  go ahead and rant on this board because we understand.  as women, we are so used to taking care of everyone else, and it's hard to have nice things done for us, and its hard for us to take me time. 

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited March 2009

    SO grateful for this thread.  Wednesday the day before taxotere terrible tx, my husband arranged to have his brother and sil and kids come and visit this weekend!!!!  I am now red faces, sore fingers, bad headache and he doesn't even notice!  ARGH!  Needless to say I put a stop to the visit.  Everyone of course is hurt.....they say then why go to work?  Huh?  Work is my mainstay not only because I am the breadwinner, but because it is something I can focus on in stead of the ses......Once I call the doc about an se, and they either give me a pill to cope, or check to see that I am okay-I move one....but geesh-to get mad at me.  I am very frustrated and a bit depressed becasue my family is sometimes very insensitive.

  • REKoz
    REKoz Member Posts: 590
    edited March 2009

    Oh this is one of those "hit home" posts if ever one existed! How about all of those, "Don't think negative" comments?  Time and time again I find myself saying, "I am NOT going to negative places, I am dealing with MY reality as best I can!"

     I had a bmx with expanders in Nov which was followed by a NASTY infection. Thankfully, the expanders were saved and I had a scar revision procedure right before chemo started. PS began the filling process but that came to an abrupt halt last week. Turns out, the expanders are wayyy to uneven (hence, I fired my first PS!) and any more stretching would be futile- why would one need the skin stretched to accomodate a boob right under the collarbone? So, now I am looking at surgery on May 27 (a month after chemo ends) to put that expander down where it belongs. I mean, who wouldn't be bummed? I merely relate this story and all I get is" at least chemo is over", or "that's cosmetic, no biggie" or 'don't look at it negatively." I'm NOT, I'm just telling it like it is!! There is absolutely no whine in my voice or my attitude. Does sugery EVER appeal to anyone ,let alone after all we've been through?

    So many times, I find that I am psychologically preparing myself for something. Something mundane like the cumulative se's of this friggin chemo where I might say that I can't plan ahead how I'll feel and I get the speil about my negative thinking. UGH, if anything, this experience has taught me to think more positively but no one can see that!

    Thanks for this thread, I feel better now!!

    xoEllen

  • NancySchoen
    NancySchoen Member Posts: 32
    edited March 2009

     HI all... I just read all the posts from the beginning of this thread.  I thought wow exactly how I feel! If one more person tells me how "lucky " I am I think I will scream. I have finally found after a few meltdowns that I need to tell people how I feel. So now I say , "as far as I am concerned no one is lucky to have breast cancer no matter what stage". They usually say you are right I never thought of it that way.

     My DH has been wonderful but he too said after the first surgery " thank goodness you do not have cancer any more". I could not believe he said that to me. After an additional surgery,  an infection and now rads and having to take Arimidex for five years. I finally had a melt down last week and said if I do not have cancer any more than why am I going through all these tx's? 

     It is good to read this thread and know that my feelings are normal. What has helped me after a few of my meltdowns and many migraines was to take effexor. Also journaling has been helpful. At least in the journal I can say having breast cancer sucks!  I guess unless you have walked in our shoes you do not realize that we will always have a little voice in the back of our mind asking when will it come back?  Nancy

  • Triciaski
    Triciaski Member Posts: 145
    edited March 2009

    My situation seems a bit different.

    During my time of diagnosis and treatment, my family was wonderful, especially my dear sister, who accompanied me to every appointment and took care of me after two surgeries. It's only now that the "crisis" is over that I'm getting backlash about being "high maintenance" during my illness. I really thought I was exceptionally big and brave. I thought my sister was doing things for me because she wanted to, not because I was demanding or even because I was truly in need of much help physically.

    So, I'm having some belated hurt feelings, and now I feel self-conscious and "high maintenance" whenever I utter the slightest comment or complaint about my encounter with BC. For my family, it's over because I'm finished with the major treatment. For me, I'm still dealing with Arimidex and the ongoing concern of recurrence, and I would like to be able to talk about those things occasionally. But, for the time being, I'm trying to keep my mouth shut (which is probably why I've been visiting here and posting more frequently).

    Tricia

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited March 2009

    I always get:  "Your color looks so good"....or  "you have so much energy", or" you are working????"  I have a very good friend who has been a dear to me and very helpful, but every time she is around, she always says---" we will beat this! have heart! "  Sort of like saying have a stiff upper lip !.. I feel more like cursing and whining and ranting sometimes!  Am I being a jerk?  Usually I like to find the positives in every situation, but you all know this-CANCER SUCKS.  I want to tell her to stop with the rah rahs, because when I feel depressed, am in pain, and feel worried, I don't want a pat on the back or an atta girl....I don't know what I want.  This whole ordeal is tough, tough, tough, tough!

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited March 2009

    I was just saying this to my husband last night.  Usually I do try to make a positive out of a situtation.  When I broke my foot I got great upper body strength from being on crutches and added weight lifing into my routine, drank more calcium, etc.  So we celebrated a negative making me adopt healthier habits.  I told him last night "I can't think of one lousy thing that I can say breast cancer will have done that will be positive or will have improved my life."  Exercise/eating healthy etc? I was already doing it.  It's made me sicker, some of the SE's will never go away, more to come, its expensive, .....   Positive?  How about not succumbing to despair and getting on with life as best as I can, that's as frickin positive as I'm going to get I think. (Don't get me started on the thoughtless wonders who tell me how breast cancer will make me a better person)

    Tricia, you know, we look back on some bad days of this--like when I was really sick and in the hospital--and wonder how we got through them.   My husband and I wonder about it and laugh about moments that truly made me "high maintennance".  I think they loom larger in our heads because of emotions about how scared we were and the reality of the residual effects and how this really doesn't go away.  I hope that is part of that is what your family is going through.  I hope they really aren't complainig of you being high maintennance but of the emotions it puts us all through.  Getting through treatment does make us high maintennance in a way, it takes a lot of work and energy and nobody is experiencing it more then we are, we have to be "selfish" its the only way to gather enough support and emotions to get through.  Please don't apologize or feel badly about it.  It's really not being high maintennance, its survival. 

  • Robyn66
    Robyn66 Member Posts: 169
    edited March 2009

    Kmmd, its funny you say that about not being able to get a single positive out of BC.  Hubby and I were talking about that very thing last night.  There are certain thing people say that just make me want to scream but at the same time I admire these women because they have somehow made this an empowering experience and they have more courage than I think I could ever have.

    I could scream when I hear people call this a journey, like its some kind of rite of passage of womanhood.  Its a dirty disease, nothing more nothing less.  I don't want to offend anyone by saying that.  Maybe its this anger about having gone through it that I still have but it has not been a journey for me, its been a daily trudge uphill through embarrassing examinations by strangers with pain and disfigurement as a reward.  I don't go a single day without pain and even when my reconstruction is complete I am going to have this angry scar running through the middle of the new breast that will be my permanent disfigurement.  There are some women who can wear that like a badge of courage, just like those who can fearlessly walk around bald or who don't get reconstruction but I am not one of them.  But I admire them more than words can say.  It makes me feel like I am this pathetic weak vain person, but it is what it is.

    Now I am trying to play with makeup so I can recreate my eyebrows and make it look like there is something like eyelashes around my eyes.  I have always worn mascara.  In fact if I have worn NO other makeup it was mascara.  On CAMPING TRIPS I bring mascara, for the simple fact my eyes look like crap without it.  So now I am closing in fast on this "cancer patient" look I have been fearing from the beginning.  I can do ok if I make myself up.  But I am not normally a big make up person.  But I guess I will be until my eyebrows and eyelashes come back.

    I told one of my dearest friends about the nightmares I was having and she went into overdrive about me getting into therapy NOW!  She would help me find a doctor and I have to do this immediately because I have to get ahead of this bla bla bla.  The last thing I want is another round of doctor's appointments right now.  I love her for caring enough to say those things and offer help but right now I want to concentrate on the END.  I want to get through my last oncologist appointment for a while and get the plastic surgery appointments going.

    Anyway, I am putting on the happy face for everyone outside of home and kind of collapsing when I need to at home because its really easier. 

    Sorry for the rambling!!!

    Love to all 

    Robyn 

  • ghety
    ghety Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2009

    Hi Robyn!

    Although I got my "rant" out on the other "rant - jerk" thread I am so glad you got this one going too. It is so helpful to hear so many other women talk about similar feelings!

    Hope you're having a great day!

    xoxo,

    Carole

  • BMac
    BMac Member Posts: 650
    edited March 2009

    Robyn, eyeliner and an eyebrown pencil will now be your best friends!

    Tricia, high maintenance!!! Are you kidding me?  No way.  Your friend should walk a mile in your shoes.

    Kmmd, I think the only positive, if you can call it that, is that you find out how strong you really are; granted a lot of what we do is because we have to, still.

    Marshall, thanks for the input; it really helps.

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