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Hello girls,
I just received my diagnosis this evening from my internist and I'm so terrified I can barely think. About 2 weeks ago I had a mammogram after finding a large, spongy lump on my breast a couple of weeks earlier. I had a cyst in the same breast about 10 years ago and hoped it was just another one.
When the radiologist viewed the mammo, he immediately suggest a sonogram which they did. He called me into his office and said "You are very, very lucky. It's just a cyst". He suggested I have a sono guided aspiration which was done on March 2nd. The results came back on March 5th saying I had "a few atypical cells" and a core biopsy was scheduled. I should also mention that the cyst immediately refilled.
I had the core biopsy yesterday, March 9th. The cyst had refilled and the radiologist mentioned that it was full of blood. After the core biopsy, the cyst is now completely down. The results came back today and the pathology report reads as follows:
INVASIVE MAMMARY CARCINOMA, POORLY DIFFERENTIATED WITH MODERATE LYMPHOCYTIC REACTION.
IN SITU COMPONENT NOT IDENTIFIED
NO DIAGNOSTIC EVIDENCE OF LYMPHOVASCULAR INVASION IS SEEN
FIBROADENOMATOID CHANGE.
ACUTE HEMMORHAGIC AND NECROTIZING TO CHRONIC FIBROSING INFLAMMATION, CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS ASPIRATION SITE.
IMMUNOHISTOCHEMICAL STUDIES FOR ER/PR AND HER 2 NEU PENDING. A SEPARATE REPORT WILL FOLLOW.
NOTE: POSSIBILITY OF MEDULLARY CARCINOMA OF BREAST SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ON EXCISIONAL SPECIMEN.
Can anyone please explain this to me. I'm so confused at this point that I can't think straight. They didn't stage the cancer and I'm not sure why. My internist said it's "probably stage 1 or 2" but he has a tendency to be very, very optomistic. On Monday, he told me there was virtually no chance it was cancer, so I'm not sure whether to trust him.
If anyone has any thoughts, I would be so greatful.
Thanks.
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shadow ~ There are several women on these boards who are great at interpreting biopsies, and I'm sure one of them will be along shortly to help you with the medical jargon. In the meantime, I just want to tell you how sorry I am to hear about your diagnosis, and also tell you that you've come to a great place for support and information. As far as the staging goes, that comes with your surgical pathology (after your surgery). Your internist is guessing it's Stage 1 or 2 based on the assumed size of the lesion. But, until they know the full extent of what's going on, they won't be able to give you a clear staging. The good news is that Stage 1 and 2 are both considered very early and very treatable. Did your internist refer you to a breast surgeon? That consultation is normally the next step, and you may even want to check with more than one BS to find the one you like the best. Good luck ~ and I hope you will stay close and let us know how you're doing ~ Deanna
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Hi Deanna,
Thank you so much for responding. I'm about a step from freaking out and your post was really helpful. Thanks for explaining that the staging won't come until after surgery.
My internist is looking for a BS who is part of my medical plan. He said he'd get me the information as quickly as possible. Believe me, I will be calling his office tomorrow.
Regarding the size of the lesion.....I'm pretty confused about that. The cyst was 3.4 cm. In the pathology report, it's referred to as a 3.4 cm complex lesion. Is that the size of the cancer?!?! OR the size of the cyst that contained the cancer?? Does it even make a difference? 3.4 cm seems very large to me (this thing was HUGE - the size of an egg).
If anyone has any additional insight, I would sincerely appreciate hearing it! Thanks again Deanna.
Kathy
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My dear lady, I am new to all of this and learning as I go. However I do know that my surgeon told me they only know the stage after surgery. As we know sometimes doctors talk a language all their own. Its your body so ask questions and more questions. IF you have any doubts about your doctor (s) change right away to a new one, second opinion is always a good idea when in doubt. I was told early on that I had a good chance that I had breast cancer. Maybe its the shock of those words but for the first time in my life I wanted answers and with that came more questions. My dear lady, my heart goes out to you. You are in a good place for help, answers and tons of support. This forum has been and continues to be my life line...so much knowledge and as much experience...everyone in this forum really understands how you are feeling and we are all with you every step.
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Kathy ~ Quiet night here on this thread, so I wanted to stop back with a couple of suggestions for you. First, on the information side of this website, you can search all of the pathology terminology. I just did that for medullary carcinoma, which I wasn't familiar with, but which seems to be suspected -- or, at least "should be considered" -- for you, and I found out that while it's a rarer from of bc (7%, I believe), the prognosis is excellent. Also, the fact that you don't have vascular invasion or any evidence of in situ bc is also good. In other words, it sounds to me like the pathologist who did this report thinks the bc is confined within that one area of concern. ER (estrogen), PR (progesterin) & Her2Neu factors can either be positive or negative. When you get those readings, which haven't been determined yet -- possibly because the slides were sent to another lab for reading -- those three factors will help determine your treatment.
The other thing I wanted to suggest -- because this thread is a long, ongoing one, and many women may not check it too often -- is that you try posting your question as a new thread, asking for help interpreting your biopsy pathology report. I think it will be found faster when not on page 23 of a thread.
To answer your followup question -- no, I don't believe 3.4 cm is the size of your breast cancer. I believe that's the size of a rather complex lesion that is cyst-like and/or fibroid-like and within that lesion was an area that the pathologist thinks might be a medullary carcinoma.
Hope this helps a bit more. I know all too well how shocking and surreal it is to get a bc dx, but hang in there -- things will get better as you get more information. Not knowing much at this point makes it excruciatingly hard, but we'll be here to help you through this, and it will get better as soon as you know more. Deanna
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Dear Deanna,
Thank you so much for searching the terminology for me. I hadn't even thought to do that. You've been so helpful and I can't express how grateful I am.
Shocking and surreal is a really great description. I feel better than I've ever felt in my life and I'm being diagnosed with a life threatening, not to mention life altering, illness. Honestly, I still can't wrap my head around it. Terror is all I'm feeling. If you and Nadine are any indication of what the people are like on this site, I'm blessed to have found you.
I'll take your suggestion and post my report as a separate topic. Thank you so much.
Dear Nadine,
Thanks so much for responding. I was NOT prepared for a bc diagnosis at all. It seemed everyone was sure it was "nothing", as I was told over and over again. Even when the atypical cells showed up in the fine needle biopsy, everyone including the radiologist as well as my GP seemed to shrug it off. I guess that made the diagnosis even more shocking.
I'm waiting for a referral to a breast surgeon and you can bet if I'm not pleased with him/her, I will get another opinion.
Again, thank you so much for taking the time to respond to me.
Kathy
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Deanna,
I feel like an idiot. I don't know where to go to start a new thread. HELP!
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Kathy -- At top click on FORUM TOPICS, JUST DIAGNOSED, and you'll see an icon that says something like START A NEW TOPIC.
I'm headed to bed, but I'll bet if you post tonight you'll have some answers early in the a.m.
Good night.... Take something to help you sleep if you need to... Deanna
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I AM NEW TO THIS SO BARE WITH ME. I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BREAST CANCER ON 2-13-2009 .I AM SCHEDULE FOR SURGERY ON 3-17-2009, I'M STILL N SHOCK .BUT I KNOW I WILL GET THRU THIS WITH GODS MERCY. PRAY FOR ME AND I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.
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Just diagnosed on February 24, 2009 with Type 3A Invasive Ductal Carsinoma. Have seen the surgeon. He explained everything that needs to be done. Went to the Oncologist Monday, Bone Scan and Echocardiogram Tuesday, Pre-op today, Surgery to put in port tomorrow. All our friends and family are very supportive, but it is still very scary. My surgeon is suppose to be one of the best. For anyone who has recently been diagnosed I would recommend watching a video that was sent to me. It is very helpful. Go to www.smartnow.com click on HEALTH tab and then the BREAST tab. Scroll down and click on the women sitting in the chair. The video is about 9 minutes long but well worth watching.
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My mother was just diagnosed with DCIS (I think). My family's a bit lost, and we have no idea where to go from here. We're kind of in shock. Who should we go to - we don't even know what kind of doctor we need. With G-d's help we'll get through this, we just have to find the right messenger ...
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cassy, Barbara, and cmflf ~ I'm so sorry that each of you are here, but since you are, I want to tell you that you have found a wonderful website and community for information and support.
cassy ~ We are all in shock at the beginning. It's just so surreal to hear that you have breast cancer, and I remember thinking it had to be a bad dream and that I would surely wake up from it. Are you having a lumpectomy or a mastectomy? Are you happy with your breast surgeon?
Barbara ~ Thanks for posting about that video. I don't think I've seen it mentioned before. Sounds like you might be doing neoadjuvant chemo (before breast surgery)? Good luck tomorrow, and please keep us posted on your situation.
cmflf ~ Whatever doctor diagnosed your mother will likely refer her to a breast surgeon for a consultation. If he or she doesn't do that, then your mother should contact the nearest comprehensive breast center and set up an appointment for a consultation. There's a ton of information on this website about DCIS if you want to read up on it. You can search two areas here. The headings as the very top are all informational topics, written by doctors and other experts. The Discussion Boards also has a big area on DCIS.
Since each of you is new, I want to point out that there are threads here for women going through each phase of treatment by the month they're starting. For example, March 2009 Surgeries. I strongly suggest finding and joining an appropriate thread, either surgery or chemo, depending on which you're doing first. It is so comforting to know you're not going through it alone, to compare notes and to share encouragement with others who are experiencing very similar treatment.
Prays for you all ~ and please let us know if you have any other pressing questions, or what other information you need. Deanna
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Hello everyone. I was diagnosed in Jan 09 with dcis, had a bilateral masectomy on 2/23/09 where they did find a less than 1 cm invasive cancer. I was hoping to dodge the chemo bullet and will find out on Tuesday what the onc dr suggests. My breast dr said the oncotype test came back good but I have to talk with onc to find out about chemo. I am more worried about chemo then I was about having my masectomy. I have 3 children, 13, 8, and 7 and I don't want them to have to see their mommy sick and bald. I am sooo glad to have found this group.
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I am 40 years old. I had my yearly mammo and a month later here I am with dx. of Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, and DCIS. Appointment wit a surgeon next week to see if involvement with Lymph Nodes. Possible "plum sized" lumpectomy to check margins and Lymph Node involvement. At this point I am so freaked out I just want a double mastectomy and get this over with. I feel like I am a ticking time bomb and just waiting for something else to turn up in my future mammograms. Am I jumping the gun...........yep...... I know but absolutely cannot imagine going through this one more time.......let alone every year. I never knew the waiting period was so long for answers........and I am looking at more waiting! Has anybody had the knee jerk decision to "just take them off........now!" I feel like I am a visitor in my life.........like this is not happening. Also.................what is the nest way to approach my children Daughter 13 and Son 10 and they both know something is wrong with Mommy right now. I am just so confused and amazed........cancer always happens to 'other people'.. Reality is a real slap in the face............but any words of encouragement, advice, etc. I am a nurse.............and feel more helpless than ever!
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I was just diagnosed today with Invasive Ductal Carcinoma and am already leaning (strongly) to bilateral mastectomy. Was that a hard decision for you to make? Are you contemplating reconstruction?
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hello deni63, I have some good inspiration for U honey, I am a 15 yr cancer survivor (Praise GOD), I too and I believe all of us here know what your feeling, get your cry out then fight for your life, I found that HOPE and POSITIVE thinking kept me alive.Believing in God is a main stay for me and ALL I go through in life.. My husband was also devastated as we were preparing to get married, But he kept me strong through out the treatments. I had Left radical total mastectomy, with chemo and radiation, and 5 yrs on Tamoxifen God Bless U sweetie, YOU can do it. msphil
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hello deni63, I have some good inspiration for U honey, I am a 15 yr cancer survivor (Praise GOD), I too and I believe all of us here know what your feeling, get your cry out then fight for your life, I found that HOPE and POSITIVE thinking kept me alive.Believing in God is a main stay for me and ALL I go through in life.. My husband was also devastated as we were preparing to get married, But he kept me strong through out the treatments. I had Left radical total mastectomy, with chemo and radiation, and 5 yrs on Tamoxifen God Bless U sweetie, YOU can do it. msphil
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hello deni63, I have some good inspiration for U honey, I am a 15 yr cancer survivor (Praise GOD), I too and I believe all of us here know what your feeling, get your cry out then fight for your life, I found that HOPE and POSITIVE thinking kept me alive.Believing in God is a main stay for me and ALL I go through in life.. My husband was also devastated as we were preparing to get married, But he kept me strong through out the treatments. I had Left radical total mastectomy, with chemo and radiation, and 5 yrs on Tamoxifen God Bless U sweetie, YOU can do it. msphil
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junebug40: I know just how you feel. I am 31 and I have three kids 9months, 4 and 6 and this is all so much to take in when it comes out of left field. You will be surprised how much strength you have. I never thought I could get through it having surgery, a newborn, chemo, rads, etc. but I did and so far so good. Wait for everything to come in and then research and try to figure out what the best decision for you is. Best of luck to you. Lauren
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My mom was just recently diagnosed. The first visit with the surgeon seemed very positive- early stages and probably no chemo needed. We just visited the radiation doctor this week and he said chemotherapy was standard treament after surgery. My mom's heart dropped when she heard that. Do you always have to have chemo? They say it is stage T2 about 2.5-3 cm. Her surgery is next week. She is also considering the Mammosite, but I'm worried because it has not been tested over a long period of time. I can't seem to find statistics about the cancer reocurrence with Mammosite versus external beam radiation. I realize the convenience is important, but I just want them to get ALL of the cancer out!! My husband had prostate cancer and I never would have considered something with a short term clinical trial for him. Is breast cancer a lot different? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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hi, im totally new to all this. Im 22 and have just been diagnosed as what im guessing is called stage 1, i dont really understand whats goin on and im very frightened. I dont want to worry my family yet as obviously its not as serious. I dont understand what will happen next, theres been no talk of surgery or chemo just tablets what do these do....can anyone help me understand please????? I wasnt really taking in what the doctor said and i just feel stupid asking people that are going through so much of a struggle and id really appreaciate any advise.
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hello sweetie, like chrisc433, I too had a node biopsy first, it came back positive, and then I received three months chemo and then mastectomy and then three months after, I got married to my wonderful husband and then I started 7 weeks radiation treatment. the left breast, ductal carcinoma with three lymph nodes involved...I also had reconstruction, but my body rejected it at the expanding part of procedure, but Praise GOD, I also was on Tamoxifen for 5 yrs, I am 15 yrs Cancer Free, so U see I know U just diagnosed are scared and lots of questions, come here and we will do all we can to help and give our experiences. Stay Positive, and have lots of HOPE, it worked for me and it can work for YOU. God Bless US ALL. .msphil
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Hi Junebug40 , I just went through this process last year, with the same diagnoses. The first visist with the surgeon and the onocolgist went by with me in a fog, not quite believing this was really happening to me. But by the second visit and talking to others who had gone through this I knew what questions to ask although still scared I was dealing. I did what you are considereing and had them both removed in fear of having to go through the same thing again in another year or two. It has been hard but I am okay. I am also a mother of six ages 23,21,20, stepmother to three ages 19,18,16 I did not want to tell them until later but my daughter was called by a concern friend who heard it from her mother so I had to sit down and explain it. That was harder than anything to do but they became my biggest support group and my strength through this all. If you just keep God first through all of this test you will pass it with all A's.
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I've been just diagnosed with mucinous ductal invasive cancer. Anybody know what I should expect? Scared to death & scheduled for an MRI on Monday, worried for my partner.
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Hi freckles69,
I was also diagnosed last July with mucinous carcinoma and when the doctor was giving me the diagnosis and she knew my stomach had dropped to the floor she said "no no no you're lucky it's the good kind" and here I am 9 months later - had my MRI and they recommended mastectomy because of size of tumor surgeon didn't think chemo would shrink it so just went ahead with mastectomy and no reconstruction had an ocno type test and it came back with a low score so as I am post menopausal am on Femara with little or no side effects one thing I do is exercise every day it's not an easy journey but you will get through it. If you have questions you need answered pm me and I will help you.
Cheryl
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I did not know where to post this so feel free to copy it and post it elsewhere. My wife has had chemo, bilateral mystectomy, reconstruction, radiation and now pills for years. I will be gone for about 10 days so I will reply when I return. My wife had a 6 cm tumor that did not show up in 15 years of mammograms. My wife had dense, fibrous breast tissue and was always told that her mammograms were hard to read. The tumor was hidden like a polar bear in a snowstorm. About 15% or more of breast tumors do not show up on a mammogram. The dense fibrous tissue was also difficult to 'read' by touch so that is why my wife and doctors missed the tumor until it was 6 cm. My wife often heard the doctor state, "It is difficult to examine your breasts" because they were always lumpy. I think it is malpractise to not have ordered a MRI for dense fibrous breast tissue. I know there are false positives with MRIs and that many negative biopsies are done after a MRI. I now know of women whose doctor did order MRIs and some even had them paid for by their insurance. If my wife's gynocologist had told us that most tumors are found in women with no family history of cancer and that 15% of tumors do not show up on mammograms and that women with dense fibrous tissue are hard to read in all respects and that women with dense fibrous tissue are more likely to have tumors, THEN we would have paid for the MRI. I think it is malpractise that my wife's gynocologist did not provide her with this information. My wife does not want to sue because it is not in her personality. I also think it is healthier to focus on healing than it is to focus on a lawsuit. For the woman out there that can focus on healing and also sue their gynocologist then please do all women with dense fibrous tissue a favor and sue your gynocologist for not ordering a MRI before your tumor grew large. The MRI clearly showed the tumor the size of a grapefruit with a net of blood vessels all around it. It was as clear as a stop sign. If my wife had a MRI years ago then we would have caught the tumor when it was small. I know there are other women in my wife's situation and I appeal to them (if it is in your personality and will not hinder your healing) to sue your gynocologist's for not ordering a MRI. MRIs should be standard practise for women with dense fibrous tissue. Help make it standard practise by creating as many lawsuits as possible. You will be saving the lives of women who come after you. Please post this in any other thread you deem appropriate. I used to be mad as all hell and now I am at peace that MRIs will become standard practise for women with dense fibrous breast tissue. God Speed.
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My heart goes out to you and your wife. Unfortunately, it does seem that financial considerations, global cost-benefit calculations win out over individual good in health policy.
I can especially sympathize with your view as her situation is similar to mine. I have fibrocystic breasts and have one big lump that was aspirated 15 years ago. The aspiration showed a benign lump.
I had a baby in 2002. He couldn't breast feed due to genetic problems so I pumped milk for 6 months. Sometime after that, the lump began to be more painful than normal. It started to itch periodically. There was some discharge. Two years ago, I had a mammo that showed nothing. A very patronizing doctor at the screening program waived away my concerns. Since it was itchy and there was discharge - known cancer signs - I did not trust the mammo report. He said - you can have discharge over a year after breastfeeding and shrugged his shoulders about the itchiness and increase in pain.
Every time I went in for a check up and even a few times in between, I asked various GP's to "Please check the area very carefully as I read that this condition leads to increased risk of breast cancer and there has been a change in the way it feels." Last summer, it got even itchier and more painful. In the fall, I started to get a new, jolting, almost electric shock sort of pain through that breast. I went back to the doctor and was sent for a mammo. The receptionist at the clinic said, "You just had a mammo under 2 years ago and since you are under 50 we would not normally do another. Why don't you just do an ultrasound?" So I went for an ultrasound and the technician looked alarmed during the process and said "Why didn't they do a mammogram first?!" They then did mammo and scheduled a biopsy for the next week. Cancer. Apparently the cancerous lump was hiding under the benign one so the mammo could not pick it up until it got bigger.
If they had had the sense to listen to me years ago maybe I wouldn't be sitting around at this stage waiting to learn if it has already spread. I was at risk because I had a baby at 40, I breastfed at 40 and I have dense breasts. An MRI two years ago might have shown this when the mammo did not. From what I have read, this thing has been growing in there for years.
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I was just diagnosed on Thursday. I'm not sure what stage I am in yet b/c I am still waiting for the completed pathology report. I went to St. Vincents in NY but have a second opinion at Sloan Kettering this week and I will probably go with them. The surgeon at St. Vincents told me that I have calcifications throughout so that I will likely need to remove my breast. I am going for a the MRI/bone scan, etc this week. What scares me the most is: (1) whether it has spread and (2) whether I will be able to have children after chemo. I don't know if the cancer is estrogen positive or negative at this point. I'm 31 and I'm going to see a fertility doctor this week. If anyone has a good fertility doctor in NYC - I'd love to hear about it. The cancer is bad enough but the thought of not being able to have children is just too much for me to take at this point. My husband, family, and friends have been so supportive and I've gotten a lot of great information in the past few days. The waiting is just so hard.
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ltfarber: I am so sorry that you are here. The waiting is by far the hardest part, if you can get through this you can get through anything. I was diagnosed six weeks after having my son so I know what you mean about the children part of all of this. Don't even go there, hopefully you won't have to ever go there. Just wait for all your information to come in and then take one piece at a time. You will see there are tons of people on here that have had breast cancer and gone on to have a baby or two or three! I will keep you in my thoughts. Lauren
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