All BC ladies are high risk

Hindsfeet
Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
edited June 2014 in High Risk for Breast Cancer
I read a interesting article. According to this article we're all high risk. It was written, Feb/09

http://www.naturalnews.com/025517.html

(Did you know that cancer tumors are actually the LATE stage of the
Disease, and cancer cells spread throughout the body long before a tumor
Gets diagnosed?) copied.

If we've been dx with a cancer tumor ... as I understand those cells can be found elsewhere in the body? This is a scary thought...although dcis is supposely noninvasive cancer....but I've read that those dx with dcis are also at high risk in that cancer cells sometimes spill out during surgery or biopsy and may seed elsewhere in the body. 

I also know that everyone has cancer cells in their body. Our immune system destroys most of these foregin cells. Stress, poor diets, and chemicals puts our immune system at risk. It's amazing everyone isn't dying of cancer.

(NaturalNews)

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  • LibraGirl
    LibraGirl Member Posts: 160
    edited March 2009

     Interesting, but preliminary, as the article and study authors themselves say:

    "The researchers and other cancer experts cautioned that more research is needed before it can be known for sure whether healthy cells are really involved in the spread of cancer. For one thing, it is not clear why or how healthy cells would get to other parts of the body in the first place, or how they would be activated once there.

    'This does suggest that cells can sit for a long time, and then be activated,' said Claudine Isaacs of Georgetown University. "But these cells were injected into the circulation. Normal breast cells are not supposed to be in the circulation."

    In addition, the same effect might not occur in humans as in mice."

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited March 2009

    Perhaps they are talking about tumor markers which I know little about.

    Tumor markers are substances that can be found in the body when cancer is present. They are most often found in the blood or urine, but they can also be found in tumors and other tissue. They can be products of the cancer cells themselves, or made by the body in response to cancer or other conditions. Most tumor markers are proteins. They can be found in normal cells. (copied) 

    It seems to me if you have had cancer that your body for whatever reason is more apt to continue to produce cancer cells unless we find out why, and do something about what is causing our body to turn on us. I was told that my infected breast is sick, and for whatever reason is producing cancer cells, and will continue to do so.

    As I understand it now...once you've been dx you are at a higher risk for bc.

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  • Pam456
    Pam456 Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2009

    Just made my day!  . . as if I wasn't already worried sick.

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  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited March 2009

    Barry

    With all due respect, pure DCIS is non-invasive. It is not in the bloodstream.  Left untreated, some DCIS can break through the walls and become invasive, but no one knows which DCIS and when. I am not worried at all about my intermediate grade DCIS, treated with lumpectomy/partial mastectomy and radiation, metatisizing.

    The risks associated with seeding are so, so low. To go without a biopsy or lumpectomy because one is afraid of seeding is, IMO, shortsighted.  Two recent papers on the subject:

    Breast cancer seeding associated with core needle biopsies: A systematic review.
    Liebens F, Carly B, Cusumano P, Van Beveren M, Beier B, Fastrez M, Rozenberg S.

    Maturitas. 2009 Feb 20;62(2):113-23. Epub 2009 Jan 22.

    The frequency of positive cases in the multiple passes group was 75%, which was slightly, although not significantly, higher than the 66% frequency in the single pass group (P = 0.3). In conclusion, the incidence of positive cases of cytology derived from ultrasonographically guided breast core needles' wash material was 65%. The clinical significance is debatable; however, there may be a theoretical risk of local recurrence if the tract is not excised or radiotherapy not given.

    Risk of needle tract seeding of breast cancer: cytological results derived from core wash material.
    Uematsu T, Kasami M.     Breast Cancer Res Treat. 2008 Jul;110(1):51-5. Epub 2007 Aug 3

    Breast cancer seeding associated with core needle biopsies: A systematic review. CONCLUSION: Although data are limited, no increased morbidity has been associated with iatrogenic seeding after CNB.


    Yes, once one has had BC, one is at higher risk of a recurrence. The recurrence risk varies. My mom, post-menopausal dx and treated for BC 18 years ago has had no recurrence (TG). I've also met many a woman with low stress, excellent physical condition, good diet, etc. etc. who've gotten BC. Unfortunately, two died quite young of recurrence/metatisized BC. It's all a crap shoot. I prefer to leave the theorizing up to the pros...and not a website which advertises a related article, "cancer is not a disease, it is a survival mechanism."

    Many cases of BC don't just show up one day - they've been sloooowly growing for a while. Years, perhaps. Other cases are incredibly fast growing. The person who figures out all of the real triggers will be a hero.
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  • Daudine
    Daudine Member Posts: 221
    edited March 2009

    I don't agree with the fact that everybody has cancer cells in their bodies.

    Everybody has a gene that enables the multiplication of cells, that is true. We also have another gene that stops the multiplication of cells ounce the repair is done.

    Being BRCA1 positive, I have a mutation of that gene on chromosone 17 which means that ounce my body starts cell multiplication, it can't stop and creates tumor.

    I think it may be not a good idea to make to much research without the proper specialist to explain it. Can be scary for nothing!

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited March 2009

    Sorry...it was not my intention to scare anyone.  But wouldn't it be nice if they could find cancer before it developed into a tumor?

    After my first lumpectomy, one year later, I' had a recurrence of dcis... I am at high risk for bc. In a bazaar way it helped me to know that I'm not alone...that most breast cancer survivors are high risk. And that we have an excellent immune system that kills cancer cells...everyday. This is one of the  reasons I'm pursuing anything that will built up my immune system and to do what I can so it doesn't happen again.  

    I received this info from someone else and thought it interesting..but took it differently. I should had thought through it a little more...again sorry if I was insensitive.

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