Arimidex side effects kicked in on day three
I am one of those people that never seems to get any side effects from medication. When the doc. told me that I might get hot flashes and joint pain from Arimidex, I didn't think much about it. After two or three days on Arimidex, I had practically every side effect. The first symptom was a headache (I rarely get headaches). Woke in the middle of the night with a racing heart beat and pounding joint pain, was so hot had to turn the overhead fan on high. Had to take 10 mg. of Valium in order to fall asleep. Next day I was in a complete fog and somewhat incoherent. I was very cold so I had to wear my winter coat in the house. I was very tense and shaking from nervousness from the Arimidex side effects, not out of fear. I was also depressed and didn't want to do anything. I really want to give the Arimidex a chance and am hoping that the symptoms will subside but am also afraid that they will get worse since I have read on this board that many don't get symptoms until much further along. Has this happened to anyone else so soon after starting Arimidex. I can't imagine feeling this way for five years.
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Started Arimidex and had to go off it after 3 days. My oncologist told me it "has more side effects than the other aromatose inhibitors." The deporession thing was the most weird. I've had a lot of depression-causing events in my life and have NEVER EVER been depressed. NEVER. Until the Arimidex. Ond day of that awful cloud-over-my head feeling was enough to send me screaming. Call your oncologist. Five years of what you are experiencing is not acceptable.
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I'm on my fifth day of Arimidex and haven't noticed any side effects -- yet.
How long (generally) did it take for others to notice SEs on Arimidex?
Tricia
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3 months now and totally dealing with feet pain and hip pain, wondering if that is common for the rest of you. I keep worrying about bone mets but markers are all normal.
Also deal with racing heart, and sleeping issues, not to mention severe anxiety.
I felt better when I was doing chemo before Arimidex, but too afraid to go off of it.
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I've been on Arimidex for over a year now. Before starting it, I read a lot about side effects and did not like what I saw, especially about muscle and bone pain. On this site I found a fair amount of information about the importance of having good levels of vitamin D, and my oncologist tested me, found that my levels were low and started me on vitamin D supplements. I also began doing yoga, in addition to my regular daily exercise. I feel quite sure that both vitamin D supplements and yoga have really helped with the side effects. Yup, lots of hot flashes, but with the price of fuel in Vermont, it could be worse to have my own personal furnace. I would also love the nights of uninterrupted sleep that I knew in times past. -- What I do not want is recurrence, and Arimidex has a pretty good record for prevention of recurrence.
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Hi Suntree, I have been on Arimidex since May of 08 and I am having HORRIBLE depression (like my soul has been sucked out of my body!), chills, some hot flashes, headaches and joint pain. I am seeing a doc on Monday for anti-depressants because I can handle the rest but not this level of depression. I am hoping he will be able to help me. Talk to your doc about anything that might help....good luck and let us know what you do,
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Triciaski, my onco said all the side effects I was likely to feel with Arimidex would be felt within the first 2 months.
Here's what the website "RxList" (http://www.rxlist.com/arimidex-drug.htm) says about the blood levels and speed of onset of the effects of Arimidex:
"Consistent with the approximately 2-day terminal elimination half-life, plasma concentrations approach steady-state levels at about 7 days of once daily dosing and steady-state levels are approximately three- to four-fold higher than levels observed after a single dose of Arimidex." That means it takes about a week for the concentration of Arimidex to build up in your blood to where it will be during the treatment period. That "steady-state" level is about 3 or 4 times higher than the concentration that was in the blood after taking just the first pill.
Women often wonder what would happen if they don't take the whole pill, or if they take it every-other-day instead of every day. Here's what the RxList site says about the recommended dose:
"Mean serum concentrations of estradiol were evaluated in multiple daily dosing trials with 0.5, 1, 3, 5, and 10 mg of Arimidex in postmenopausal women with advanced breast cancer. Clinically significant suppression of serum estradiol was seen with all doses. Doses of 1 mg and higher resulted in suppression of mean serum concentrations of estradiol to the lower limit of detection (3.7 pmol/L)." That means the drug was tested at a whole bunch of different concentrations. The dose that's recommended on the label (1 mg/day) is the lowest dose that blocked estrogen (estradiol) synthesis completely. The next-lowest dose (0.5 mg/day) suppressed it "significantly", but not as well as the 1 mg dose. Higher doses also worked but weren't necessary, since 1 mg worked just as well as they did.
Finally, how long does it take for Arimidex to work? RxList says:
"The recommended daily dose, Arimidex 1 mg, reduced estradiol by approximately 70% within 24 hours and by approximately 80% after 14 days of daily dosing. Suppression of serum estradiol was maintained for up to 6 days after cessation of daily dosing with Arimidex 1 mg." In other words, it starts working pretty quickly to inhibit estrogen (estradiol) synthesis; and the effects on estradiol synthesis last for about a week after we stop taking the drug.
The big question is, how long does it take for the lower estradiol levels to produce the typical SE's? Some women have said it took only a few days, or even just a single pill; others have said it took a couple of weeks.
I don't think I had any SE's at all for the first 2 weeks on the drug. I've been taking Arimidex for 8 months now, and if anything, the SE's are diminishing. I've had the joint and muscle pain and the hot flashes etc., but it has all been just an amplification of what I've felt these past 6 years of menopause anyway. I should note that I'm taking calcium citrate and Vitamin D3 supplements every day, and my Vitamin D levels are "great" (at the high end of the reference range).
otter
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Suntree, your rapid heartrate interests me. I've been on arimidex for over 2 years and a couple of months ago I had a racing heart.......like someone turned on a switch. Has anyone else had this symptom since arimidex or is it unrelated?
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I've been on Arimidex abot 8 months now. My bones ache more than they used to - but in the same old areas where I have arthritis. I can actually predict the weather based on how my bones feel! It's not unbearable for me, so I'm not complaining really. I did notice a feeling of "racing thoughts" and general "speediness" in my mind a couple of months ago........but that could have been due to the extra cup of coffee I was drinking. Did you have your thyroid levels checked? My thyroid became underactive after I finished with surgery and chemo..........be sure your doctor doesn't overlook checking your thyroid. Five years seems soooo long to me - but the alternative (worrying about bc recurrence) is worse, so I'm going to do my best to stick it out. Good luck everyone!
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Thanks Angel, my thyroid was checked.
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I'm on my 3rd month of Arimidex my hair is thinning, I have some joint pain mostly in my legs and right thumb. I have found that Yoga basic exercising helps, gives me more energy and helps my spirtis.I take Caltrate D and have cut way back on the caffiene, Night sweats are not as bad when I wear light clothing cover with just a sheet and run the ceiling fan and a floor fan. I just give my husband an extra blanket, I find my eyes get tired easily but a recent eye exam shows little change from my last eyeglass RX to now. I have periods of depression, the feeling for a good cry will crop up, but I've been able to keep them at bay pretty much. Sometimes just the usual life stressors build up. I remind myself things could be worse and for some it is. I'm glad I found this discussion group, a lot of my concerns and questions have been answered and I'm not the only one dealing with these SE.
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I've been on Arimidex for 4 months. I am very achey when I first get up. Mainly my hips and my heels. I've been using Lunesta to help me sleep. I get occasional hot flashes...just very warm feeling.
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Otter -- Thanks so much for that detailed explanation. It's been one week for me now, and just this evening I was complaining to my sister that my feet are starting to hurt. She asked what kind of hurt, and the best I can describe is as though I did a lot of walking in uncomfortable shoes. I suppose I can expect more of the same in other joints, but I'm glad to hear you think your aches and pains are diminishing. I, too, already have the gamut of menopausal symptoms, including general creakiness, so I'm still hoping the Arimidex will only make things slightly worse.
Tricia
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I have been on arimidex for 2 months and have not really noticed any side effects yet. Had dry skin, vaginal dryness, and hot/cold issues (not much in the way of hot flashes in a couple of years) anyway from menopause. I cannot say I am not experiencing "soreness," but I have been exercising more, and prefer to think it is from that. Besides the exercise, I am taking the calcium and vitmain D supplements in the hope of avoiding or lessening some of the side effects of this drug.
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Today is day 3 for me. The only thing I have noticed are temperature issues. I seem to have a 2 hour cycle. First I am cold, mostly in hands and feet, then about an hour later I am warm. Not really a hot flash, just a warm wave--not totally unpleasant at first. Then before I know it I am cold again. During the day I am aware of the changes but it doesn't seem to bother me. At night, however, I awake every 2 hours. I wake up when I am cold. Go back to sleep. Then wake up again in 2 hours with night sweats. It's sort of annoying. In the past I just had night sweats about once a night.
I am 46, just post-menopausal. My onco has me on high doses of calc, D, B-12, and folic acid supps. Hopefully that will help.
I hate sitting around waiting for SE's to happen. Makes me feel like a sitting duck! I have heard so many stories--here and in real life--about the bone aches on Arimidex that I am nervous, but so far so good, although it may be too early to tell.
After radiation I had dry skin, dry hair, dry everything, still do, so I don't think for me that has to do with Arimidex. I think the temp changes do though.
Prior to my surgery I was a gym rat, there every day. Since surgery, I was inactive for over a month. Only now I am back at the gym, but lower body only, and walking. I have the green light to go ahead with upper body next week once my compression sleeve and gauntlet arrive. So I am hoping exercising will help too.
Katherine
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Hey suntree,
Five years finally came around and I could say sayonara to Arimidex.
I think for me, mostly, I just learned to live with the symptoms. The hot flashes faded after a few months but the joint stiffness remained the whole time and to some extent intensified. My hair thinned out quite a bit (luckily I had thick hair to begin with). The worst thing I experienced was insomnia. No matter how tired I was at night as soon as the light went out,I was wide awake and it would take hours to get to sleep only to wake up consistently every hour on the hour. Happily that stopped a few weeks after I stopped taking the pill.
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Hi
I am glad someone is discussing this. Long story short I am having trouble with knee strength. I have to push myself up from chairs and I walk like an old lady, Benjamin Buttons. I do not want to take any more meds. I am trying to walk more butI have no spring in my step, I just drag along. I did not expect this and I have only been doing this for 3 mos, but have been stiff all 3. No other side effects, just old age!!!! Any advise?
wondering7
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Hi Wondering. Sorry that you are having so much trouble. I did Arimidex for only 4 and 1/2 months and had to quit it. My hands were destroyed along with other SEs. I am very, very active, eat right, lean, etc., etc. and still could not deal with the Arimidex. Also, my vitamin D level is very good. My med and rad onc suggested I try Tamox. They both think that it is a very good drug and said that the differences between Tamox and Arimidex is small. They said, because of my dx, that I should now try Tamox. I am just waiting for my med onc to get back to me. I feel much better now that I am off Arimidex and hope that I can tolerate Tamox. Some people do all right with Arimidex and suggest that exercise, etc. helps with the SEs. I did not find that to be the case because I do do so much activity.
I know this tale is not full of suggestions, but it does give you an example of what I have done having been on Arimidex.
Good luck and best wishes. E
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Thanks Otter for the link and for your very informative post on Arimidex. As usual you have provided a factual, easy to understand interpretation of the material.
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Day 11 and the side effects have hit me full force. I guess that's how long it took for my body to deplete its own estrogen. I woke up early this morning with pain throughout my entire body. I could barely walk when I got out of bed, and my brain is in a fog. I am very cold and my jaw is trembling.
Although I had a few indications of side effects, beginning on Day 5, the full force has come on suddenly. Like suntree, I don't think I can stand feeling like this for five years. I don't think I can stand it even for a day. Does it get better?
Tricia
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Hi Ladies found new black box warnings and Arimidex was the second one posted.
Here is the link to all of the changed Black Box warnings the first post didn't come out to well.
http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/safety/2008/dec08.htm
I've only read two so far but was surprised to see Arimidex listed. Good luck to all of you on Arimidex, pray you can all get through the se's
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Hi Tricia. I am so sorry that you are experiencing these SEs. For me it did not get better. I made it to the 4 1/2 month mark, but then had to quit. I just quite about a week and 1/2 ago and am waiting for my med onc to call me back. I called right away and left him a message that I was quitting. I will now go on Tamox. He and my rad onc said that this is also a very good drug even for post menopausal women. I feel so much better being off Arimidex. I keep thinking it is my imagination, but it isn't. So - we'll see.
I hope things get better for you. E
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I also have problems with knee strength, and several times, thought I would fall due to my knees caving in. My sister broke her leg when she went through this a couple of years ago and it took 2 years to heal. So please be careful!!! Use a walker or a cane or something to give you some support. My feet are killing me. Seems like the bones on the top of my foot are terribly sore all the time. Other than the bone pain, my other side affects seem bearable. Cora
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The top of my feet are also very sore!
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Arimedex kicked my butt for almost 2 monthes! Hot flashes 24/7 or so it seemed! Joint pain so bad that I started moving less! Too many sleepless nights! HOWEVER, after reading about all the side effects, I took some drastic action! I talked to my husband about all my negative feelings and how in my head I knew nothing was wrong with me...needed to convince him I wasn't crazy! and that it wasn't him!... but that meds were trying to shut me down. So, I stated religiously taking vitamin D with my muti vitamin. Walking with friends everyday (1/2 hour -45 minutes) and with him every night even when I didn't feel like it! I sleep with a sheet and he gets the blanket. Sometimes he gets two blankets because I need the fan! I sleep probably 5 out of 7 nights now (completely reasonable) and hot flashes are close to non existant...though I do wear sleeveless year round. Bone pain is a phantom pain and can be worked through...I suffer from rhumatoid arthritis and I work through that the same way! Just keep moving and you can triumph! I want 20 more years at least to see grand kids grow up... so just set a goal and stay on your meds and don't give up!
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Thanks for the encouragement, pdg5158. I just started taking extra vitamin D, and my body aches and pains (not really joint pain), seems to be diminishing (not my hot flashes -- yet). I am worried, though, about the long term side effects of not having any estrogen, particularly osteoporosis.
Tricia
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I am day 5 into Armidex but was having joint pain starting before that the ONC said was due to taxotere. Now getting more and more sore each day. Nothing seems to touch it and now started with hot flashes again which I thought I was done with. I am still exercising - spinning, biking and running when I don't think my knees are going to buckle but everything is an effort. I hope this goes away soon. My SO wants me to see my regular doc this week and I will but I just don't want to take any more meds. I did add Vitamin D to my regimen so will see if that helps as others have mentioned. I hope this board keeps going as I want to see how everyone fairs on the Arimedex down the line. Thanks for sharing.
Bobbi
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Hi Bobbi. Check out the post about women who have switched back to Tamox after being on Arimidex. There are some very informative posts on that thread. You have a "very good" dx (if there is such a thing) and if you have problems with Arimidex you might want to switch.
E
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Thanks Elisabeth - my Onc said I can't take Tamoxifen because of the greater risk of blood clots and I had a DVT and then lung clots about 5 years ago. I was on blood thinner for 6 months and was told if I ever have another clot it's blood thinner for life so my onc and of course, me have been trying to avoid anything that would cause risk of a clot. I think that's why I try to stay active. I see our dx our very similar and that you are now on tamoxifen - good luck with that and I will check some of the other posts.
Bobbi
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hi suntree- i am into my 5th and final year of arimidex- i used to say i was "suffering" from the s/e's but as i near the end of this part of my cancer journey and have had normal labs and normal mammo's since my dx i realised it was something i had to deal with and not actual suffering- since the beginning i have had 90% of what is listed that may happen to you when you take this medication with the bone and joint pain bothering me the most- my hands- shoulders- hips- knees and feet have all given me problems since starting the arimidex- the hot flashes are not nearly as bad as they were the first year and i finally have the weight gain under control- the insomnia has been bad the entire time - sleeping thru the night is not an option- i have constant and chronic anxiety and panic attacks and the depression is pretty much non-stop but i have learned to live with all of these symptoms realising this drug is helping me move into the future-i know everyone is different in their decision making process but i would encourage you to not give up on this drug yet- it is possible to adapt- i took up yoga- starting eating more organic- devoted alot more time to God and allowed myself to grieve the loss of feeling "normal" knowing i know have a future- good luck in your journey- keep the faith ladies-
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I had an ooph in April and switched from Tamoxifen to Arimidex in August. Was doing just fine ... the hot flashes increased with the Rx change, but were beginning to subside again. Ditto on the sleepless nights. A little joint and muscle ache, but nothing to write home about. I began taking Glucosamine and exercising more.
Unfortunately, then the carpal tunnel set in. I didn't realize it was related to the Arimidex at first since it also coincided with a new job. Pretty soon I was miserable ... pain and numbness in my hand all the time; lots of simple tasks were difficult; etc. I took a holiday from Arimidex while I consulted with a hand specialist (who dx me with "classic," moderate carpal tunnel -- unlikely to resolve on its own -- and recommended I do the surgery). Then, the symptoms started to fade. Now, about 6 weeks into my holiday, the symptoms are completely gone. Not the Arimidex, eh?
New onc suggested I go back to Tamoxifen. She reasoned that my risk of recurrence is low, so my absolute benefit from Arimidex over Tamoxifen is also low. Therefore, I should also weigh the quality of life factors. I started the Tamoxifen last night. I hope this is the right decision!
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