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  • suzmarks
    suzmarks Member Posts: 83
    edited February 2009

    Lisa - wanted to respond to your question about Taxotere and hair falling out. I'm on TC and on day 13 my hair started coming out. I had my sis-in-law cut it real short and as of yesterday, day 20 I'd say I just have wisps here and there on my head. Of course everyone is different. I thought I'd hold on to my hair longer.

    To All:

    I was able to have my second infusion today as my blood count went way up and all went well. I didn't really feel significant effects after my first Tx until a couple of days later so now I'm just waiting and enjoying feeling good. Actually I've been feeling pretty good since about day 8. Hard to believe I have to go back to that darkish place of discomfort again, perhaps not. I do have to go for a Neulesta shot tomorrow. I didn't get Clariton yet. Not sure if I should as some people have done well. Will I have any success with Clariton if I wait until after the symptoms show up?

    The most consistent problem I've had is sleeplessness. I went a day and half without sleep in the beginning of the week. Last night I may have pulled off 4 hours. My oncologist gave me a script for Ambien, and Ativan. I don't really like taking pills but may need to do it. It's almost 1 AM and my alarm clock is set for 5 1/2 hours from now to get me to work (1/2 day only as I have to get the Nuelesta/Neulesta ???).

    Would have written a poem but the lightness of mood changed after reading about Judy's mom.

    Thoughts and best wishes to all.

  • living4today
    living4today Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2009

    Judy I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your mother...you are in my thoughts and prayers.

  • Denali
    Denali Member Posts: 347
    edited February 2009

    Judy:  I'm so sorry to hear of your mom's passing.  Losing a mom is always terrible, but I can't imagine how devastating it must be while you're dealing with your own health issues.  Know that she is always beside you now, lending you her strength and bravery.

    Suzanne, take the Claritan and an Aleve the day before you get the Neulasta shot, the day of the shot and the day after.  Don't wait for the symptoms to show up.

  • buddy1
    buddy1 Member Posts: 750
    edited February 2009

    Janice, I really appreciate your help.  I am not real good at this computer thing.. I am trying to figure it out  I am so glad I found this place.  I will be getting it every 2 weeks.  I  get 2 of them together for the first 4 treatments.  The last 4  I get the other.  I think this is right..Does it sound like it?  I am so mad that it was in my nodes.  My treatment doubled.  I just wish I knew how really treatable I am.  My surgeon says I am very cureable (early stages) but the onc. guy gives me all these statistics.. mortality..reoccurance...etc. 

    Judy.  I too am very sorry.

  • flmomof3
    flmomof3 Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2009

    Judy,

    I am so sorry about your mom...what a difficult time for your entire family...know you have an angel in heaven watching over you right now...she is with you now more than ever...i truly believe it.

    you are in my prayers!!!!XO

    Lots of love,

    sue from fl

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    (((judy))) i am so so sorry. i'm heartbroken for you. i don't even know what to say other than i'm sending you strength and love.

    suzmarks, thank you. i kinda knew.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited February 2009

    Buddy 1 - I only have a couple of minutes and then I need to run out the door.  If you will notice most of us have our diagnoses listed in each thread.  Since you said you were somewhat computer challenged, here is the way to get that done.

    Log in to the site, go to the disucssion board and then below the white long strip that says "Jump to a Forum" you will see 5 boxes including one that says My Home.  Click that on.

    Then you have the option from there to Add Photo, Edit My Profile, Edit Diagnoses.  Hit the Edit Diagnoses button and another screen will pop up that simply asks you questions and based on your answers, that is what will appear at the bottom of each of your posts.  It also helps us remember what is your particular situation so we can answer more personable to your particular case if that makes sense.

    What you are doing is AC X 4 DD and T x 4 DD which is the exact same regimen I am on.  If you go to page 1 of this thread you will see where Webwriter has added everyone and start dates, and what they are doing so you can see by the list there are a number of us on the same chemo regimen.  Also the more you know your pathology report, etc  the more we will be able to help you if you have the information to give us.

    It is a biatch that it hit the nodes but hey......if it didn't go anywhere from there then yes......that is positive!  Also know you will hit a 5 reply limit per 24 hour day period for what seems an eternal period - I don't know this board does this and never got the answer other than I think they can keep the spammers off of here and ban them quicker.  So.....if you get to that limit and you will get an error message, feel free to click on my picture at any of my posts or anyone else that you want to write to and you will be taken to a different screen where you can send a private message.  There is no limit on the amount of private messages you can send.

    If you receive a private message - you will notice there is a box to the right at the top of this screen that says private message and you will see in PINK  (1 msg) so you click on the box and it takes you to your private message area.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited February 2009

    Judy,
    My heart goes out to you and your family on the loss of your dear loving mother.

    May she is rest and peace.

    Sue

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited February 2009

    Yeah I think I did my poem on a pretty good -chemo brain myself.  Apple, love your stuff!

    Well ladies I ended up with a sinus infection.  For 6 days I had such horrible sinus pressure and headaches galore I knew something was gonig on.  Onc. has my taking antibiotics and it's already starting to feel a little better thank goodness.  The taxotere is really doing a number on my sinus' and I was told from the start to daily use a saline nose spray, but did I? nope. From now on till I am done with this crap I'll be using it you can count on that.  But all in all not feeling too bad today.  We'll see what the weekend brings.  Last nite got about 3 hours sleep, and not all at once.  Thank u steroids!  It's a good thing for good books.

    Lisa- I think the hair loss on Taxotere is different for everyone cause I do have a friend who did NOT loose her hair on Taxo and it actually started growing back.  For me on Taxo. my hair started thinning and some clumping by treatment #2.  Yesterday treatment #3 seems to have given it a little more umph and it's back to clumping out again but in weird spots.  I have a huge receeding hairline right now, but my sides seem to be holding on... for now anyway.

    Chin up everyone!

    Sue

  • kmn0701
    kmn0701 Member Posts: 117
    edited February 2009

    {{{JUDY}}} I too am so sorry to hear about your mother.

    I wish I could write poetry too....maybe the damn chemo brain is inhibiting my creative side. Nah, who am I kidding...I never had a creative side!

    It's day 14 for me & yesterday I think I noticed some extra hair coming out after my shower. Whaaaaa! We have family pictures scheduled for Sunday (I know, bad timing but we "won" this photography session & that's the first time we could schedule it)...I was SO hoping to still have hair!!!! 

    Has anyone else had BAD headaches from chemo?? Is that a possible side effect?? I've been fighting one since last Friday. It comes & goes. I'm seeing my Onc today before chemo so I'm going to talk to her about it but was wondering if anyone else experienced headaches.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited February 2009

    Kristine,

    Not sure what your poison is, but I'm on Taxotere and had horrible headaches for 6 days straight. As my post above says it wound up to be a sinus infection.

    Sue

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009

    i am really not one to take extra meds but.........

    this time my onc gave me a script for hydrocodone.. omg.. it's wonderful..  i am already arthritic from being a super athlete for decades.. all my aches and pains are simply gone.  i've been avoiding nsaids for years hoping to save my intestines for my dotage.    it's so nice to function without the umbrella of pain shadowing one's movements.

    she also suggested i take B6 and glutamine for hand neuropathy.. which is now noticeable but not debilitating.. we'll grab that bull by the horns before it charges.. we hope

    also btw.. nasal rinsing is great for mild symptoms.  i have a choir and the only way i can sing. (and i have to sometimes demonstrate) is to rinse a couple times before practice,  I always start my day that way.. i am much less prone to any seasonal allergies and stuffiness. (kind of like a saline spray - but it rinses out).  I put 1/2 tsp of baking soda and 1/2 tsp salt in 2/3 cup water.

    well.. i am BUZZING on the steroids so it's back to competitive housecleaning for me.  have a nice day all.

    .

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited February 2009

    Judy~  {{HUGS}}  I'm so sorry.  Is there anything you need? Is there anything we can do for you??  Please send me a PM if I can help you at all...

  • ipursuit
    ipursuit Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2009

    Hi All,

    Webbie thanks for the invite to this group, I think I will try to catch up with all these posts soon, even though I have now been delayed to starting on March 10th due to what appears to be an infection of my prophylactic-side tissue expander (TE - I'm going to spell things out for those of you who like me took a while to figure out all these acronyms....).

    BTW Webbie, your blog is a hoot (as we say in the South)!

    I have been in and out of doctors' offices all week so am far behind on y'all and will catch up before I post more....

    E / aka Ipursuit

  • csbsk123
    csbsk123 Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2009

    Judy:  Sooo sorry for your loss.  I'm sure your mother will continue to look over you in heart and spirit.  Take things one day at a time.

    Well the neulasta sorness has started right on schedule.  I will see if it gets worse or if the claratin will help.  I am wiped out from the steroid crash and not sleeping well for the last two nights. All us her2+ folks will be around for a year, but I consider the herceptin a piece of cake compared to the Taxotere/Cytoxan/Herceptin cocktail so consider the real treatment done after my four rounds.

    Well I'm ready for dinner and a nap.  Have a great weekend all! 

  • jrgolomb
    jrgolomb Member Posts: 1,236
    edited February 2009

    Web--I think I read a blurb you wrote about getting the short nubbies of hair off the head-so it looks real smooth.  I decided when it warms up I am going to go bald.  I don't like the short linty hair on my pate, think the bald look with smooth skin would be awesome!!!  ( for now that is)  I t seems you were talking about something that helped to shave the hair off closely to the scalp......???

    Susan-Thank you so much for the info on ses of taxo.  I finished FEC #3  YAY!!!!!!  and now I start taxotere March 19....I have three of those and then done unless My gene test comes back positive.....then more decisions to make. 

    Judy--my condolences. 

    I had my neulasta shot and so far I am not sore...wait till tonight I guess.

    You go Furies!!!!! 

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited February 2009

    (((Judy)))  I am so sorry for the loss of your mother.  I'm thinking of and praying for you and your family.

     Artemis

  • sue50
    sue50 Member Posts: 61
    edited February 2009
    Judy,  I am so very sorry to hear about your mom. We will be praying for you and your family.
  • xpectmiracles
    xpectmiracles Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2009

    jrgolomb--Jess.I like the bald head look, too. I think what web was talking about was a braun electric razor. I don't remember the model number. I ordered one from ebay that is less than what walmart sells them for and shipping was free.

  • kmn0701
    kmn0701 Member Posts: 117
    edited February 2009

    Well I'm happy today. My Onc gave me Lortab (for headaches), Ativan & Ambien. Laughing I got my own pharmacy going. lol

    Sue/susan13....I'm on Taxotere, Carbo & Herceptin. BUT I haven't had it since 2/13 so I'm not sure why I had headaches this week?? Weird. Hopefully the Lortab will help tonight. 

  • kat4pink
    kat4pink Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2009

    I wish I had as good of luck as everyone else does with Lortab.. they work great for pain..but they are a migraine trigger for me... I hate that, cause every other pain medicine messes with my stomach.. I took one last night for this swollen underarm, and woke up with a headache.. but my underarm didn't hurt last night! lol Seems like one solution always seems to cause another problem.. what the heck did the pilgrims do for pain and suffering? lol (they smoked marijuana..didn't they..that's why they started Thanksgiving.. they all had the munches! hehe)

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited February 2009

    Kristine - You should see the stash of pills I have at MY HOUSE!  If a doctor is willing to write a prescription, I fill it whether I need it then or not because I know down the line I will.  I am set to go for at least 3 more months.  I got Vicodin for my surgery and also my dentist gave me vicodin for my root canal so I have 2 scripts of that sitting around and I do take them when needed.  The best drug is the valium because it has helped me so much through the stress.  I can't sleep well at night now since I started Chemo even with Ambien that I increased to 15 mg but if I take 10 mg of Valium I can sleep for 9 hours straight.  Next time I see my doctor I am going to ask him why the ambien quit working.  The lortab will help your headache - believe me it will!

    Kathie (kat4pink) - You are too funny!!  that is screwy that pain meds give you migraines.  What the heck do you do?  I would go insane if pain meds affected me that way as I have an extremely low pain tolerance level.  I won't take Ibuprofen, Tylenol, etc. because if the pain is bad enough to take those then I will always choose to take a prescribed pain med instead and get rid of it fast.  Dull pain turns me into a witch really fast.

    I came home from the barn, ate and got a headache, took a Vicodin and fell asleep.  I tried to sleep without taking one but I can't fall asleep if I am hurting or if the TV is on, or if the hubby is snoring.  Falling asleep has always been difficult for me.  I must have been one pain in the butt of a baby when I was born!

    Other than the chemo fog that hounds me every single minute of the day, I am doing pretty well.  I don't feel "right or normal" but neither do I really feel bad.  I can just tell that my entire body system is "off" so to speak from the chemo drugs.  I just want to feel normal!! 

  • kat4pink
    kat4pink Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2009

    Jancie- I am always ass backwards I tell ya! Lortab and Vicodin also wire me up, I can't sleep if I take one..I will be up half the night.  When I have bad pain I will break down and take a Lortab, but I also have a prescription med for migraines, so if the headache gets bad from it, I pop on of those... I don't have a problem with Darvocet, of course that doesn't do near as good for pain as Lortab does.. After my bilat mast, the strongest meds I took was Darvocet, and that was only before I went to bed so I could get the edge off of the pain to lay down comfy to sleep. The day after my surgery I only had Tylenol... but then again the pain wasn't anywhere near what I thought it was going to be.. the day of surgery they had me all drugged up with morphine I didnt even ask for, and probably didn't need, and ended up throwing up. Of course as the days went by the place in my arm where they took out the nodes ended up being painfull!

    I am glad you got so much done today!

    Kristine - good luck with the headaches.. I hate headaches! Excedrin migrane works really good for me FWIW.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited February 2009

    Kathie~ I'm the same way... MOST meds make my wired.  Even benadryl.  Ativan has worked a little for helping me sleep but not like others have desribed... Tylox and Lortab keep me up.  I have several bottle left over from my biopsies, mastectomy, and port implantation procedures 'cause I didn't take them.

  • Terri42
    Terri42 Member Posts: 56
    edited February 2009

    Judy - I just don't know what to say - somehow you will find the strength you need to get through this and that's a gift in and of itself - not to mention all of the amazing people that will surround you so lean on them as much as you need to including all of us here!

    Wow - I always have so much catching up to do - I leave for a while when I'm feeling "normal" I don't like to think about cancer for a little bit BUT now I have no hair so that's kind of hard!

    Hair came out a few days after second AC treatment - I didn't take it well - I did get a wig that looks very close to my old hair but I know it's a wig and hate it!  I'm going to get the bang wig everyone was talking about - great idea - I feel more comfortable in hats and scarves so maybe I can go out in public with the addition of the bangs!

    Kristine - were you taking Zofran at all?  That gave me bad headaches - I left it out last time and had no problems.

    Michele - was it you who is done May 12th?  That's my last chemo date too - I CANNOT WAIT!

    3rd chemo round on Tuesday - dreading it already!!!!!!!!!!  Although I try not to spoil the good days thinking about the bad - time is too precious now!

  • Denali
    Denali Member Posts: 347
    edited February 2009

    Hair.  I thought I was prepared.  Every day I run my fingers through my hair and nothing came out.  Until yesterday.  UGGH.  Yesterday I found a couple hairs in my fingers every time I run them through.  At least it's the gray ones coming out first. 

    I picked up my wig, which I'd dropped off to be styled.  I'm not happy with the color (supposed to be highlighted, but I sure can't see it) and the style isn't quite what I wanted--I even left a photo for her!  So I came home and ordered lots of bangs and hats and all from TLC online.  Thought I'd pay the extra $$ to have it express shipped.  But I added wig hair spray and it can now only be shipped standard which means waiting up to 2 wks.  sigh.  Hope I can last that long.

    Anyone else losing hair?  I started TCH Feb 12th and haven't even had tx #2 yet.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    Hi all - yesterday was a bit horrid all around for me. First the nurse took THREE tries to get the IV in, I felt like a bit of a pin cushion. Then last night I did the throw-up thing again, not so much fun.

    But this morning I am feeling not too bad. Will see how it all progresses. I have had breakfast, and the nausea has gone, so just Chemo ickyness for the next week.

    But at least I will never have to do another FEC again, ever, and I am halfway through. So nearly on the downhill stretch!

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009

    i had some whiskey last nite.. straight!  with a priest and a few good friends.  Smile  had an excellent time..

    I buzzed my hair yesterday so i could go out one more time with hair.. it's so cute super short without those stupid curls.  while we were talking my friend pulled out hairs in the back of my head.  we were going for a smiley face but it's just a weird patch..   (Shrimp Dinner at the Knights of Columbus Hall (for you Catholics).  I'll shave it today or tomorrow and will wear my wig at church. 

    yuk

    this last treatment was so problem free. I really feel good.  I hope you all have a great weekend.  It is snowing in KC and 4 inches have already accumulated.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited February 2009

    Apple-Whiskey???? I'm jealous!!!!!! 

    Kerry-Congrats on the last FEC, u r half way there!  but sorry to hear you got sick:-(

    I woke up with yet another headache today.  I'm wondering if it is the taxotere doing it and not my sinus'.  My sinus' do feel a bit better now though, but the darn headache on the side of my temples has got to go away already!  and if I'm not constantly drinking water or gatorade I get dehydrated so quickly.

  • buddy1
    buddy1 Member Posts: 750
    edited February 2009

    Apple  ....Whisky sounds like fun. I am so happy that your last treatment was easy,  I sure hope I have the same luck.  I got my appointment to have my port put in on Wed.  I think they will wait untill the 17th or so before I start my treatments.  They want me to wait 1 month after my surgery.  Yeah for you.

    KerryMac.. That really stinks you were sick.  I am glad your doing better now.

    Denali.. You inspired me to go online shopping.  I got a few things..

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