Starting Chemo February 2009?
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To all having a round of chemo this week, hang in there YOU ARE NOT ALONE. The FabFebFuries are right beside you.
Web, I can relate with your DH comment about checking out for a week after a round. It does feel just like that. My world implodes.
My hair is stating to thin. Not clumps yet. I want to shave my head as soon as it starts coming out in clumps. Remember I wanted to have a "shave Cheryl's head" party on Sat and have my 14, 18 & 20 year old sons do the cutting? Well, now I don't know if I want to wait that long. I just want the process over!
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And you will feel so much better once it has gone. Trust.
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Kat4Pink, I had bilat masts in 2002, with saline implants put in. Silicon was not covered by my insurance back then. I understood that they can't get every last breast cell but I didn't realize they left behind hunks of tissue! With DCIS I was not offered any additional tx, in fact one doc felt that bilats was overkill. I was not told that one of my margins was only 1 mm. I was only offered simple mast, not radical.
Fast forward to 2008, I found a lump alongside my implant. Near the original site. The ultrasound tech was showing me, "Here's your implant...and over here is your breast tissue...." And I said, "I paid good money to have that removed!" My Maine oncologist said if I had been treated today, I would have been given radiation due to the 1 mm margin. I asked why I hadn't been offered it before, and she said "At the time there was no data to support it". I cancelled my other appts with her and went to Dana Farber in Boston.
In January, my new surgeon performed "mastectomy revisions" on both sides, removing 2.5 and 5 cm IDC tumors, 21 lymph nodes, and all breast tissue possible. No more implants for me. I liked them but I surely would have found the lumps quicker without them. The 5 cm tumor was not found until the surgery.
Take home lesson: keep up the self exams!
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to all you who are having a rough time... best thoughts and wishes are sent your way from Kansas. I will try to enjoy my day before my next chemo... hoping the SEs continue to be well tolerated and not be accumulative.
it's funny, now that i know all about the side effects i seem to have them more along with the constant worry that i get them.. heh.
my hair continues to sprinkle out. it is so short it is hardly worth buzzing so i won't till bald patches appear.
a little hint: i have really enjoyed wearing pure silk scarves. they are thin, elegant, warm and easy to hand wash. i started looking for them at thrift and consignment shops and garage sales. Even tho i have a large collection, it is still difficult to find one to match my outfit. i guess i will rely on the wig that makes me feel like a boy in drag but looks great even tho i want to tear it off, it's so uncomfy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K4BKkLaCI
have a great day all.
Dx 5/10/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER+ -
Sue: you story is amazing! Look at how treatments have changed in just the last few yrs! We've learned lots from you!
Cheryl: I've decided to have a margarita party when I have my bald-headed son shave my head. He has all the equipment because he shaves his. Even if he didn't, my dr's office has the buzzer to loan out. Is that nice, or what? Of course, I'll have my newly styled wig to model afterwards--hopefully my head won't be too sore. Just in case, I'll have to have some flamboyant scarves on hand.
I'm going to plan for my next chemo week--lots of movies recorded and books to read. NO appts scheduled. My rambunctious puppy will be staying at my son's house. A week of peace and quiet with my older dog. I asked my daughter if I could drive her Z (sports car) as a reward after each chemo. She said yes, as long as it wasn't while I was on the steroids!
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Here's to a better day for all of us! Talk about weepy.. boy was I a weepy woman yesterday. I dont know if I'm starting the dreaded menopause, or what. I cried on the way in to the office and many times after that. Then my dear hubby sent me flowers to my office and when I went to see what the receptionist had called me for at the front desk... I cried. Gosh haven't cried so much in a long time. Even cried on the turnpike going home. Oie! Well feeling much better today, minus darn sinus pain and pressure. But I'll be starting my steroid craze tonite for treatment tomorrow, so maybe it'll clear up.
Cheers to all for a good day!
Sue
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Sue50,
Wondering.. is an ultrasound the only way u were followed up when you had your implants in? I've been wondering about this lately cause no one has told me what kind of follow-ups I will be having yet. I am assuming with implants there are no mammo's? Maybe MRI's? You would think with having a mastectomy that we wouldn't have to worry about this anymore!
Sue
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UNBELIEVABLE! My chemo is suppose to start tommorrow, and I woke up with a 100.6 fever this morning!! I have been so careful to stay away from people who were sick and use lysol, wash my hands, use hand sanitizer and I STILL got sick. I have put a phone call into my onco's nurse and waiting for a call back, but I am sure this is going to set me back another week. I can't believe this is 2 weeks in a row I have been trying to be ready to go, and got it put off. Next Thursday will be 6 weeks from my bilateral mast. Isn't that quite a long time to wait to start chemo? Also, my port will be in for 6 weeks by then with no flush... I am 3 hours away from my treatment center and I live in a small town and would never let anyone around here access my port.
That's gonna put my start date in March..doesn't my body know that will throw me out of the Fabulous February Furies??? SHESHHHH!!
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Hey Kathie - I think they say it is safe to start Chemo up to 12 weeks after Surgery. Bummer about the fever, hope you get started soon - sooner started, sooner ended!
Sue - I can imagine how you feel - after I was diagnosed all my doctors have said "Oh, sometimes they read Ultrasounds wrong when you are Breastfeeding" but no one thought to tell me that when they initially told me I was in the clear....
I am feeling less miserable as the day goes on, my kids and I have been painting, which has cheered me up. It sure is a Roller Coaster!! I am trying to follow apples advice and enjoy feeling good today, not wasting it by dreading Friday. I thiunk some of my SE's are in my head too....
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Thanks for the info Kerry - now I get to feel like crap before my chemo even starts.. lucky me! I know it sounds funny, but I think I started getting sick about 2 days ago.. my body was aching, feeling sick to my stomach, but I thought I was just having sympathy symptoms for all of you!
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Kathie,
I am so sorry about your fever...I was delayed a week for my 1st round for a breast infection post surgery...i regreted showing it to my onc. because I knew what would happen...I am starting round 2 tomorrow and I've kept my 3 year old home for two days from preschool to avoid illness...Just hearing about your fever and I am getting warmer!!! such a hypochondriac!! I will be thinking of you, hoping the antibiotics and neupogen put you back in good shape for next week....I'm guessing that is what you will get???take care,
Sue from fl
p.s. webwriter, is your name Angela? my 3 year old and my mom are Angela too!!!
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hello and welcome to Helen/Gramof3, BCPrego2008, lexie4040, Sessna1 & anyone else new i missed. big hugs to you.
Kerry, I hope it's ok that I'm taking your advice "Remember you can get all nice and healthy again in the summer!!" for myself. I'm adding it to my mantras. So happy to hear your mama will be around to help you, that's so great.
"When people ask how I am, my answer should not exceed ONE word." - excellent advice, denali.
Jancie, love your pics - you are gorgeous!
kelty, glad to hear your counts are back up but sorry about going off schedule. That's my biggest fear.
(((Michele))) & ((kathie))) & (((webbie))) just cuz.
living4today, all parts crossed this treatment goes smoothly for you.
Suzmarks, can you just tell your students not to mention the wig? That you're really fragile right now and that your hair loss makes you sad? I wore mine yesterday for the first time and I didn't even let anyone at work compliment me. I felt they would just be telling me what I wanted to hear, and i felt so odd & weird & phony & ugly. So I just smiled and put my finger to my lips in a shhhh motion, and they respected my wishes. I also don't need to hear coworker tell me for the 12th time how much fun she had when she used to wear wigs ... for fun. Wearing wigs for fun is a completely different scenario. People just don't get it.
Susan13, I was told that, with implants, I'll be having MRI's every 6 months forever, even tho I don't have any breast tissue left (if there is, it's microscopic).
Oh and on the weepy front? I was crying on Monday because it was WINDY! I just wanted the wind to STOP already. (I think more for fear of wearing the wig the next day, but ... maybe no. I really hate wind.)
i feel deeply for those of you wrestling with the mortality thing. Perhaps because mine was caught early enough to fix and I'm doing everything possible to make sure it never comes back, it's a place I don't go. Not even in my darkest pity parties. I don't know why, because I'm a complete worrywart by nature. That's why my mom keeps saying "I don't know where you're getting your strength from" because I usually freak at the drop of a hat. like, about errant asteroids and nuclear holocaust. i kid you not. i can be a nutcase.
I do worry about ovarian cancer, though. I think I want them to take my ovaries out.
on the positive side, i walked my dog yesterday. just a short walk, but it was the first time since early december, when i was nuts about all the ice and possibly falling prior to surgery. it felt good & i think zoey was happy to have mommy back, too.
healthy and healing and comfort and soothing vibes and neck massages and footrubs, up for grabs.
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My onco had me go to my local family doc after my underarm started to swell after my fever started... it is pretty swollen now... turns out I have an infection - 6 weeks after surgery.. go figure! Got a shot of antibiotics in my rear, and oral ones 4 times a day, and hopefully will start chemo next Thursday.. almost afraid to say it out loud, afraid to jinx it!
Hope everyone is doing well today!
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Hi all: I just finished round 2 of Taxotere/Cytoxan/Herceptin. I get the dreaded Neulasta tomorrow. I have my regular claratin and hope to ward off the pain. It only took 31/2 hours this time so not too bad.
Kat4pink: I had my bilateral and port put in on Dec. 3rd and didn't start chemo until Feb. 4th. My onc was on vacation the end of December. They did flush my port on initial visit Jan. 15th and had no problems. They do say they like to start chemo 6-8 weeks after surgery but I don't think it is critical. Hang in there and I hope you feel better.
I now have chemo brain all the time. I have no memory and have to right everything down. My daughter also says it has afffected my personality. She says I am too critical of everything. I will try to be more positive.
On the mammo after implant front I have heard of people getting them with implants, but I would find out from your onc and surgeon on best treatment for you. My cancer was never picked up on mammogram but MRI lit up the lump I found and 2 other tiny lumps on my other breast. I vote MRI all the way.
Sue 50: I can't believe they left behind any breast tissue. I am going to further inquire with my surgeon on my next visit. Isn't that why we chose a bilateral so we wouldn't have to worry as much. Your in our prayers and I'm glad you changed doctors, very smart move.
Good night even though with the steroids I'll be up most of it.
Cheri
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Hi fabulous feb Furies! I am off to chemo #3 and though I dred it, i will be glad to say I am halfway finished! One more Fec and then 3 Taxoteres to go!
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Yes, I'm doing marvelous!!! Glad to be around all this support!!! Had my 2nd round today, handled it marvelously!!! I'm having less side effects today than 2 weeks ago. Some I had some I didn't, but I'm taking it day-by-day, and am anticipating fatigue to set in tomorrow on my hydration day.
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Tomorrow is the day! 8:00am! Feeling anxious, weepy, nervous, calm.....................I dread tomorrow!!! Smoking, too!! Will keep track of all drugs they give me. Heard about a cream for the port? Needles don't bother me (I am a clinical scientist!) My husband and daughter are coming with me. Comfy clothes, ehh?? Take care
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You'll do GREAT KathyAlex! 90% nerves, 10% ick. Piece of cake.
EMLA Cream is common for the port. It just numbs the area around it so you don't feel anything. You spread it all around the area, an hour I think? before you need it. Then put celophane over it to hold it in place. Take it off when they're ready to use your port, and you'll be good to go. I don't have a port, but I'm jealous just for that! I am using veins and I don't get EMLA first! Wawawa! Seriously, I don't know if you run hot/cold, but I run cold. The Cytoxan puts me into a freezer state. I wear layers. (Hot flashes, babay!) Short sleeves with a hoodie, sweats, long sweater and carry a blanket. That's a bit extreme. I run very, very, very cold. BUT you wanna be comfy. Not much moving around when you're attached to a pole! Be comfortable. Don't worry about looking pretty. Nobody cares.
Ill be thinking of you in my dreams tomorrow-which is when it looks like I'm going to crash this time.
Bethie1! Great to hear from you today too! Congrats on round #2 DOWN! I had my halfway today! #3 TC, DOWN! I'm glad it's going better for you this time. Weird how different each TX is, isn't it? This one is starting off totally different for me too. I think they shorted my Decadron, haha!
jrgolomb: Congrats on your halfway point too! My husband (aka Eyeore) can not stop reminding me, however, that I have to crash and recover with this one first before it really counts. I say we drop him in a vat of boiling peanuts, but that's just me. Halfway over started when they unhooked me, and for you too! CHEERS! May this one be the start of a permanent "upswing."
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Kathy - relax - you will be ok. I took a nice soft pillow with me so that I could lay my arm on something soft instead of just the vinyl of the recliner chair and that helped. Comfy clothes - sweatpants, loose shirt, whatever feels comfortable. I wear short sleeve shirts so that I don't have to worry about rolling up my shirt sleeve to draw blood, etc.
The place I go to will give me nice HOT blankets and I feel almost like I am in a spa. I always take a seat by the window so I can look at the snow covered mountains! Bring some hard candy or gum - that seemed to help me and also I brought a water bottle and they had ice chips there if I wanted to chew on them. I also brought with me some light snacks, yogurt, applesauce, and graham crackers but really didn't feel like eating much.
I opted to not have a port since needles don't bother me. I know it is scary the first time, I actually cried when the nurse came to get me. I made my husband go with me. This next time I am just going to drive myself there and back since it is so close. Besides I don't want to worry about having to entertain someone while I am getting poison in my body and I always feel like I have to be "nice" instead of moody and pissed off that I am there to begin with.
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cbsk-- More Congrats! Round two, DOWN for you also! AWESOME! Keep us posted on the Claritin and how it does for you. I had better luck with plain Claritin, most others swear by Clairitin D. I generally say, do the opposite of me and you'll be fine. I just have to be different, haha! I'm betting it's much, much better with tho, and won't risk finding out if it works by NOT! However, all that said, I'm sending you the Claritin Hex I took last night, and the one I took this morning.
I just got back from TX#3 (halfway, in case I haven't mentioned it enough) and my bloodwork was so high, I get to SKIP MY DREADED NEULASTA SHOT! But dang I'm tired on this one so I'm not sure the trade off was worth it! Regardless, I'm sending Claritin Hex vibes your way.
Chemo brain? We are so not going there. I broke down and brought a planner. Can I tell you where the danged thing is? Riiiiiight.
Kat! NO! NO! No! No! No! NO. No. Aw crap. That sucks giant green (boiled of course) snot balls. It's gonna have to be some kind of lunch party to make up for all this crap. Can you get over here and stay over here a night or two? I'll start the convalescent home--got a great nurse! (Love you, Auntie A!)...
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I get cold too, am planning on bringing my "snuggie"! I'm hoping to start a fashion trend!Sweat pants, no wig, just a cozy scarf, and what i call toastie toats, warm snugglie socks.
Oh, I have a new silk pillowcase..it is so cool and comfy on my bald head at night.
Round two of TC tomorrow, if my sore throat doesn't affect my counts...yes i was fine all day...ugh!!!
love to all.
Sue from Fl
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- "When people ask how I am, my answer should not exceed ONE word." - excellent advice, denali.
- I am so going to use this advice!!!
- thank you !!
- Sue from Fl
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I thought I had posted here but I couldn't find my post. I started my 6 rounds of TCH on 2-2-09 and started off with wonderful SE. My face broke out like a 13 yr. old boy on steriods and then swelled up, and peeled a layer of skin off...let me tell you I looked HOT.
I had round 2 on Monday and my SE's seem to be minimal this time. I have a slight headache and a lot of muscle aches in my legs but during my last treatment I went out for a bike ride and it solved my muscle aches. I still have 4 rounds to go but I know that I can do it !!
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Susan13,
Regarding followups, I only had annual physical exams (no ultrasound) from my oncologist for about 2 years post mastectomy, then I was told I didn't have to come back but to continue with annual ob/gyn visits. They can't do mammograms on you any more.
Incidentally my original ob/gyn refused to examine my implants!! Didn't feel qualified, she said. At least she was honest. So I found a new ob/gyn.
I think things have changed though; the followups may be more aggressive these days. A friend of mine was diagnosed a year ago with DCIS, and chose bilats with silicon implants. One year out, she is still getting exams from her oncologist every 3 months.
I only got an ultrasound after finding the lump. I don't think they offer it as a general screening method, maybe they should.
KerryMac, bummer about your belated diagnosis. We just have to pick up and go on as best we can, though, right? But you have the right idea....Painting! Art lifts the spirits for sure. I'm playing with colored pencils tonight.
Where are you GCPommon? (speaking of art, she's the mosaic-ist) Hope your mom is ok too.
Kat4Pink, get well soon!
See y'all later, (look what you Southerners are doing to me), going for AC #3 tomorrow!
I've never even had boiled peanuts and I'm drawlin'
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I think it's hillarious that everyone is talking about boiled peanuts. Makes me have the munchies just thinking about them. :-)
I hate that we're all having weepy moments....I love that I don't have to have them alone. It's so hard to explain to people who haven't been through it what you're going through.
It seems like several people are already getting close to the halfway point? I'm not sure I get it....why am I not going to be done until the end of May (and then continuing on with Herceptin until next February)? I mean, I'm guessing my particular cancer just sucks, right?
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KMN - Don't feel bad going into May - my chemo is going all the way into June!! The thing is many of the people here started the first week of February. I just started last week and have 8 treatments 2 weeks apart which means 4 months which takes me to June unless I am not doing my math right (I don't do math).
So I will be hanging with you the entire time! I checked the top of the thread and it didn't give any details as to exactly your chemo procedure and I am too lazy to go back through 20 pages to see where you posted it in a thread - sorry - don't take offense - don't take that personal - just my mind is tired.
Color me confused but I thought that those that are HER2 positive get Herceptin and there are a number of us that are HER2 negative. Instead I will be on tamoxifin after my treatments are over since I am ER/PR Positive and HER2 negative.
Weep away - I will weep with you. It is hard emotionally to get through this and I have my days where I just want to curl up in a ball and lay in bed all day long.
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I can't believe this is all the catching up I've gotten done today. Sigh. Oh well. 1/2 way right? I'm a lot more tired this time. I think they forgot the Decadron High cc's. Somethings missing.
The good news is I get so skip my neulasta shot. My numbers are all phenominally good. No need for it. Crazy feeling since I'm doing, also confirmed today, an oddball treatment. So why isn't it taking my body down harder? (YAY!) But is cancer having the same "problem"? (BOO!)
Ug, the mind games are endless with this crap.
BUT! I feel good coming out. Well, okay, tired, depending on nausea meds and knowing I won't sleep for another hour regardless good--but good.
One day at time.
I'm here, but probably crashing even earlier in the cycle this time. Let's get it over with!
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Morning y'all -
It is nice to hear that people seem much cheerier this morning, I'm feeling good too. It must be because we are nearing the halfway mark. Whoohoo...My Husband is quick to point out I have to wait for the upswing before it counts, too. What is it with these husbands?? I guess they are the ones that have to cope with us in our chemofied state.
I am another one using an IV. My veins are pretty good, and I have three weeks between Tx's, so I guess plenty of time to heal. I can only use one arm because of the Node removal, so hope they hold out.
My veins are sore though, all the way up my forearm. That is from the nasty "E" drug (it is the one that makes my pee go pink too!), but it is also the one that is super powerful, so I will take the sore veins!! My arm gets really cold too, it is like it is frozen! My husband has found where they keep those warm blankets, he was able to keep getting me new ones. They give me a popsicle during the E infusion, it is supposed to help stop the yuckky taste, didn't work so well last time.
As for Chemo Brain - after I picked my daughter up from school yesterday, I took her shoes off to put her snow boots on...then just put her shoes back on! She thought it was hilarious. Actually, it is kinda funny.
Sue (and anyone else up today) - hope it goes well!!
Webbie - great news on your blood counts! You are kicking this. Hope you get some rest, I have read loads of people crash on Tx #3. I have had the same thoughts too on how I am feeling and whether I should be feeling worse so I know it is working on the cancer....I know they say SE's are no indication on how the cancer is responding, I wish there was a way of measuring it. Maybe you are just super healthy and your body is coping well. Must be all those boiled peanuts...!
Kristine - I started early (mid Jan) and will be going until the begining of May. There will be plenty of us around still. I think some Chemo groups keep going even after everyone is all done, as everyone gets so friendly. I am doing rads after too, so will be in Tx until July. You and me both for having a Dx that sucks, but remember, the more "aggressive" your cancer, the better chemo works. That is what I am telling myself, anyway.
Anyhow, hope everyone has a great day, sleep if your tired, try and enjoy your day if you are feeling good.
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Kristine and Jancie~ I'm getting treatments 'till mid May (5/14 to be exact) and then Avastin 'till next Feb. You won't be alone!
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How do you post pictures on this forum? Last night I had my husband and boys shave my head. I couldn't stand having my hair fall out! I couldn't wait until Saturday. We had a great time doing it! They took lots of pictures. I got a mohawk first, then took it all off. I want to show you all some of the pictures.
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