BRCA1 & 2 testing
Hi,
Question, I had the BRCA gene testing, it came out negative, but the professor says that I should still come for counselling. Does anyone know why I would need counselling if I'm negative?
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I had the BRCA testing also and was negative. My dr. had me go for counseling also,as I do have some other cancer in my family on both sides (mother and father)
I was told that about 5-10% of all breast cancers have a hereditary component; but another 15% are termed "familial" meaning that there is likley a genetic susceptibility within the family.which cannot be specifically identified. Familial breast cancer also involves the presence of environmental contributions or triggers. The counselor will talk to you about your family health history on both sides of your family to see if they think there might be some familial genetic suceptibility based on that info. (though it is hard to quanitfy) I have a 20 year old daughter so I went to counseling to find out more about what she should do ; test 10 years earlier than my onset etc.
It also reinforces frequent testing and monitoring of your situation going forward. I did not have a bilateral, but unilateral, and this somewhat has influenced me to think about it should anything look even slightly suspicious. Not sure what your situation is, but that was my experience with the counseling. The counselor wrote a letter that recapped our discussion and sent it to me and to the oncologist, so on my next appt. will discuss again with him.
He thinks my greatest risk is reoccurance from the first side, not so much to worry the second side. Either way, I worry about both!
I hope it is helpful to you. I am of the opinion that more information is better ....to a point, and I think the discussion I had with the genetic counselor was a good one.
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Hi Keryl,
Thanks for the information. I had an aunt (on my mothers side) that had breast cancer, and have a family history of other cancers as well. I'm also worried about my 20 year old daughter (as well of course of my 15 year old). My 20 year old is already doing hand checking each month, and she also has a cervical US done every 6 months (as recommended by my OBGYN).
I will go to the counsellor and see what he says, but I'm assuming it's more of information than advice on anything else that I should do.
Shelley
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BRCA 1 and 2 are only two of the possible millions of mutations that can cause hereditary cancer. They are the first two that they found and for which a test was 'patented'. So, if you come up negative, but dont' have a verifiable relative who has had cancer who comes up positive, you can be what they call 'uninformed negative'. In other words, you could have another unknown mutation -- or the mutation may or may not be one that will cause a higher risk for cancer.
My family had very little history of breast cancer... .must my maternal grandmother and it turns out I inherited the mutation from my FATHER!.
A visit with a certified genetic counselor will help you get the info. you need for yourself and for your kids.
Keep in mind that it's always better to be proactive on these things because surgery, chemo and rads do take their toll on the body and there is not guarantee that the cancer won't come back.
Cheers,
CarynRose
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One question: Did you have the Multisite 3 testing for the "founders genes" affecting Ashkenazic Jews or the comprehensive (more expensive) BRAC Analysis. I had the former and then saw the footnote from the company saying that there was also a more comprehensive test which could show up mutations related to cancer. I called Myriad and they said that the insurance company had approved the full test. (I had several family members with breast cancer as well as my own). For whatever reasons, my oncologist had only ordered the founders test, but when I asked him to, he ordered the full test.
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Very interesting as i just complete my gene test thru Myriad when I was diagnosed with my breast cancer. My BRCA gene test found no mutation in either one or two, howver, in BRCA 1 sequencing it had noted something of uncertain significance found?? My onocologist suggests it be pursued.The question is, havving cancer, does this all matter? I also plan to have ovaries removed once i am over with this cancer treatment.
Have also cancer on paternal and maternal side.
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I had what is termed in the materials "Comprehensive Analysis" which inlcudes full sequence and large rearrangement analysis of the BRCA 1 & 2 genes. Is that what you refer to as the full test vs. the founders test? I have not heard the founders terminlology in my materials or from the genetic counselor, but sounds like I had the full test. Thanks.
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Donna, an "uncertain variant" shouldn't matter for your course of treatment. But its role in cancer (or lack of any role) may matter for your family (if it is a dangerous mutation, they should take note, as they may be at risk themselves) and especially for your "gene relatives" (others who have the same variation in the gene, and who must ponder its significance).
Most "unknown" variant turn out to have no significance for cancer predisposition. But one can't say for certain until more research is done. So please consider taking part in free research testing, not for your own sake as much as to help others who are related to you.
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Hi this is the first time I have looked at this site. Can anyone tell me which US health insurance providers will pay for the BRAC test? I have just been told by Myriad that Golden Rule will only pay when I have been diagnosed with either breast or ovarian cancer?? My mother had breast cancer at 48 my middle sister at 41 and my eldest sister has just been diagnosed at the age of 57. I am keen to have the test but cant pay the $3000+
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Suee,
You should see a certified genetics counselor with experience in this. He/She will help you navigate this road. Probably the best thing would be to have one of your relatives who have had cancer test. Then, Myriad can test that site for far less $$.
You might also want to check out www.facingourrisk.org. It's FORCE, THE site for hereditary breast/ovca.
Best wishes,
Caryn
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DonnaDio: I was negative for BRAC1 and 2 Ashkenazic founders Genes but they discovered a variant of uncertain significance in BRAC1. One thing you may be able to do is have others in your family who have cancer tested for free for that variant. Myriad has a form which tells you who can be tested. I didn't initially get the form from my oncologist but someone on the FORCE website told me about it. As CarynRose noted, there are lots of different variants listed on FORCE, but you probably won't learn much even if you find others with it. Only professionals can figure out the significance. I also did a google search for my variant and found out it had an "interesting" evolutionary history, but again this didn't really tell me anything. But getting more data for Myriad (and other clinical studies) is of value for the future and may help classify the variant at some time and may also provide insight for yourself and family members -- if the variant is ever reclassified. The more data Myriad gets to more likely it may someday be reclassified.
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Thanks Caryn, I will look at the web site. I find it all very confusing as I am English and have only lived in US for a few years so still trying to understand the US health system.. I am looking at going back to the UK for testing but it doesn't seem as if they do the same testing there.
Thanks for your help
Sue
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Sue, it is possible to get test in the UK but the rules are very restrictive and it takes very long time too (as cited below). If your relatives with cancer are in the US, it may be easier for one of them to be tested first. Then, if a mutation is found, you may become covered by your insurance. But even if they still refuse to cover you, you'd only need a much cheaper single-mutation test.
Quote: "....You can only have genetic testing for a BRCA mutation on the NHS if you have a very strong family history of breast cancer. You can read more about what constitutes a strong family history of breast cancer in the NICE guideline on the management of familial breast cancer. This can be found at http://www.nice.org.uk/ in the Clinical Guideline 14 on Familial Breast Cancer: Information for the Public. Examples of what would be considered a very strong family history that would indicate genetic testing on the NHS would be:
- four relatives (same side of family) with breast/ovarian cancer at any age
- three relatives (same side of the family) with breast/ovarian cancer under 60
- two relatives (same side of family) with breast/ovarian cancer under 40
- a relative with breast and ovarian cancer (two separate primary cancers)
- two relatives (same side of family) with ovarian cancer - any age.
NB This is not an exhaustive list.
If you have breast cancer that has come back but haven't been tested for a BRCA mutation (perhaps despite a strong family history), it will not usually be possible to test you on the NHS in order to get into the trial. This is because it would take too long to get a result. "
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Thanks Mutd, Good to know. I had already gave the info of gene testing on my behalf to my paternal side of coursins to take the test. There was one cousin who did have DCIS 8-9 years ago and she is one of 5 female cousins.Hope they all pursue it as I take any precuation or info availalbe out there to be in control of my health if I can!
Thanks Robby, i just wanted to see if i should do anything for more for me. I had already passed on the info to my paternal side cousins for them to take the test on my behalf. Thanks for the input as just gets confusing at times!!!
Healthy Wishes,
Donna
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I have a question about the BRCA 1 & 2 gene. Today I went to see the genetics counsellor, although I was tested negative, he insists I come in once a year. He explained to me that because I am negative, my daughters CAN'T be positive, so I don't have to worry about having them tested. I have been reading quite a bit on the boards, but did not feel that true from other posts that I've read. Can anyone share some light on this please.
Shelley
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Shelley, if you don't gave a detectable mutation, then your daughters can't inherit one from you. They might stull get a BRCA mutation but only from the father (mutations are relatively common in Ashkenazi Jews but if there is no breast / ova ca history in their father's family, then there would be no indication for testing them).
I assume that you have some history of cancer in your family? And you are the only person in the family who had a test? Just trying to guess why they insisted on genetic counseling with your negative results ... among the Ashkenazim, if none of the three founder mutations are found, then it is almost guaranteed that there is no genetic cause behind cancer there.
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Blue Cross Blue Shield will as long as you fit a criteria. The genetic counselor should help with this. otherwise it's like $3,000.
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Can anyone tell me if I was suppose to get my test results on paper? As much as I wanted the answer so that I could unfreeze my life...I don't believe the negative results over the phone. Somewhere in the back of my mind I wonder if it really happened.I called my counselor 3 weeks ago just to make double sure (because it seemed like I got the results pretty quick) bu she hasn't gotten back to me. I'm scared to call back...
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aquariusgi...You will get the results all typed up and sent to you. Depending on the results you may need to look into further with your counselor. Don't be nervous, for some reason, it is a informative way the way it is on paper and is meant for you to be in charge of your health and many do not have this great tool. keep us posted!
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I am in the process of doing genetic testing. From what I understand, there are only some things they can identify at this point that are genetic mutations and that as time goes on they may be able to identify other "markers" that may give you and your family some understanding as to what may be "passed on" to their children. Also, I found it interesting that while this is useful information for my daughters, my son also would be at increased risk for prostrate cancer should my testing be positive. If you have not yet me with the genetic counselor, please do so as he/she can give you the family "mapping" that includes those in your family with whom they are concerned may be "linked" to cancer. I had some on my father's side which for years I had reported to doctors (but they always said it didn't matter because it wasn't on my mother's side--guess what, it matters!) and those with cancer on my mother's side they just didn't seem to matter since they smoked and were all diagnosed with lung cancers. This teaches me to listen to my own self! For years I knew something was fishy with the 2 aunts and cousin diagnosed with bc at about the same age--45. So, even if my test comes back negative, I know something's smelling!! Just had a diagnosis of LCIS and found and removed lump--waiting on diagnosis on that then got to make some hard decisions. Wish I didn't have this to go through but it is what it is--hopefully it is a blessing in disguise.
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Sorry, it's going to cost me about $625 as I have met deductable with other testing and now I pay 20 percent of the over $3000.
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