Starting chemo January 2009?
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Oh boy. I'm really sorry I wrote that about stage 3 and 4. It was thoughtless....
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Year -- it's not thoughtless to just report something you read....no need to beat yourself up!
From what I've read, the "stage" concept is good for predicting the odds on a statistical basis, but unfortunately that's no guarantee that I, for example, won't be one of the 5% of the Stage I, node-negative people with a 32 Oncotype who will have a distant recurrence in 10 years. It's all a crapshoot, no matter what stage any of us are. This is why I'm struggling right now to take comfort in the stats that are in my favor, and why it was so encouraging to talk to my aunt today (thinking I need to call her on a daily basis!!). DH also keeps reminding me that I could be hit by a bus tomorrow, so all this excessive worrying is really a waste of energy. Believe it or not, most days I'm really positive & optimistic, but for the past few days, I've been having a harder time chasing away the pessimistic thoughts. Think it's the cold, dreary weather...it will be in the 20's here for the next week or so, and it DEFINITELY affects my psyche. I'm SO ready for spring!!
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Lost is awesome! Just gets my insides going with all the twists and turns. Just watched last nights epi again, Jin with the gun gets me almost giddy with questions. What time are we in now? Best show on TV! I think there's a Lost and Friday Night Lights Thread. Love that show too.
Wishing all se freedom. I go for my 2nd (weekly for 3) of this quarter tx tomorrow. Did much better this week on stomach issues. Fatigue a bigger issue though...2 days in a row of 3-4 hour naps! Never was a napper and hate sleeping the afternoon away. Oh well, I'll take this over stomach havoc anytime.
Ellen
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Year....I think you deserve a get out of jail free card......when I read what you wrote I clearly understood where you were coming from.....
There is nothing more important right now than being an advocate for our cause and our sisters.
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Hi Ladies.
Question for the group, I take the Nuelasta shots after TC each tx and it's suppose to be better then nupegene because it last longer, I was told yesterday that my bone marrow count was to low and I have to take the nupegene shot every day until Mon to build it up or I cannot get my next tx #3 what the **** and how is this possible, has anyone else had this happen and were you able to get your next treatment, please help I am stressing about this. I need to finish my tx and get back to work and help my son more with his illness.
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MISTY123-yup, the same thing happened to me. The Neulasta shot didn't kick in until about day 10, and they wanted my counts up before that. So, I do the neupogen shots 3 days in a row, then get checked on Monday to see if I need another (didn't last 2 times). I had less pains from the neupogen shot, and I get the shot in the belly although it does hurt (but just for a few seconds). Good luck. It's just a pain going in the get the shots.
Year of the Hat--it was an article--you're NOT thoughtless. I think the point is that we need a cure for breast cancer. Too many women are dying from this disease, and the truth is that the likelihood increases with the stage, among other factors. This is not a pretty pink disease. I've lost my grandma and friends to it. I'm going to do all I can to knock it out of my life, andALO is right, advocate for all our sisters.
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BerkeleyKim, Physiotherapy Associates on Center (PT place) has a post-mastectomy protocol that's pretty good.
I had my 8th Taxol tx this week, four to go. Metal/toxic taste in mouth is really the worst of it other than feeling a bit tired. I may be pushing myself too my with working, but not sure. oxo c
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Hi all. I had a good thursday too. I was tired in the morning and went back to bed after eatting some breakfast. I have a cold and Saturday would be when I was hospitallized last time so I figured I should give my body any rest it wanted. Once awake I made a bunch of phone calls I had procrasted on. I took my longest walk so far since the weather was warm. I tired easily but other than that it was a good walk. Then in the evening DH went out with a friend to drink beer and have guy talk and two of my girl friends came over with pesto pizza and chocolet ice cream. I gave them a fashion show of my hats. They loved them and told me I have a great head for hats and should find a way to model them. The evening was over around midnight. It is almost 4am and I was just awakened by a restless leg and could not get back to sleep. I think I will go whip up a batch of that almost no-knead bread I made over the weekend that is pretty much gone and see if I can repeat the miracle. This part I need to do first takes all of 5 minutes. I called a bunch of friends to see if anyone wanted to come over for dinner tomorrow night (last night as a childless couple. DS comes home Saturday) but only one said yes and they offered to have us over instead. I think I will take them up on it since they have a child and entertaining him will be easier over there. But I can bring bread and dessert. Of course I may be tempting fate. I went out to a friends for dinner this Friday last time around and Saturday I was hospitalized with low blood counts. I am counting on the nuelasta this time.
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Question for everyone: Has anyone been approached to participate in a clinical trial re: bisphosphonates? I have been approached to participate in this study and I'm trying to decide whether to do it..... any input would be appreciated. Bisphosphonates are drugs like Boniva and Reclast which are given to women with osteoporosis to strengthen bones/prevent bone loss. Anyway, I guess there is some evidence to suggest that bisphosphonates may actually help prevent bc from spreading to the bones or other parts of the body. They are gathering 4500 women with early stage breast cancer (stage I, II or III) that are "in remission" (no evidence it has spread) AND the cancer has been removed from the breast by surgery. I would have no input on which drug I would get (2 are pill form, one is thru IV) and they would follow us for 3 years. I guess they believe that these drugs by increasing bone density change your bones in a way that is unattractive for cancer cells to live and grow. Besides the SE's from the drug which I am reviewing now (they can't be that bad if Sally Fields advertises for it.. lol), I would be signing up for monthly blood draws to monitor the situation (and if I am picked for the IV administered drug, I'd be signing up for a monthly IV for that but it takes 15 minutes)... oh and one bone scan at the end. While the thought of volunteering for continued needle sticks is not pleasant, the upside is that 1) adding bone density and strengthening my bones is a good thing after all this, 2) maybe it works and I would be further protecting myself from recurrence and 3) I would be helping future bc sisters fight the beast.
What do you guys think? Help me decide?
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Ddlat, I was just about to post on the same subject. I have been anemic since my 2nd treatment of A/C. My hemoglobin in now down to 8.5 and I will need a transfusion next week if it goes down to 8. It has been dropping at least 1 point after each treatment. I had a treatment yesterday so in a week I am sure I will be headed to the blood bank. I have to go back in a week to have it checked again. Everytime I move from one point in my home to another, I feel as if I have just run a marathon. Pounding in my head, shortness of breath. I am with you when you say you want this over with. They tell me though that the transfusion should last for a while. I begin 12 weekly treatments of taxol on March 5. Also am told my counts should go up with this series.
I have also had very sensitive teeth and jaw pain, so it has been difficult to eat solids. I have lost 13 lbs. in the last 4 week. They were not thrilled with that either.
Hang in there. It will get better. It's got to.
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holtbolt.....my onc/gyn talked to me about this prior to my ooph surgery.....I hae not been back to see him since the surgery......I guess this is something that oul start after the chemo....right. I am interested in finding out more about it too!!
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Holdbolt!!
Holtbolt,
Adam is the goth guy with Black hair he ususally hasd eyeliner on..............sorry My daughter got me addicted to this..............well sorta.........He will be on next week, and I don't know who danny is describe him for me pleaser!!! Everyone have a great weekend!! Pamela
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DDLATT--Sounds interesting, and is there a place to go and sign up for it? Or do we get "asked" by our doctors? Wish I could hlep with info.
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I'm just a nervous wreck....going in for AC 4 in about an hr. Last one!!!!! then tx. Thanks everyone for the reasurance. Can't seem to get enough.
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Re: neulasta / neupogen I read here of someone else who had minimal effect from the neulasta - think it's rare, but does happen. I had neulasta after TC#2 - worked well on WBCs, but SEs were rough. For TC#3, we switched to neupogen x7 days - labs on day 6 showed good effect and no SEs (knock on wood). So neupogen is a good alternative to bring those WBCs up.
HoltBolt: Clinical trials are what got us so far, so fast and so successfully in the treatment of BC. I am all for them. I was personally dissappointed when I didn't qualify for the TAILOR study ( my oncotype dx was 4 points beyond the cutoff). In my initial discussion with my onc, he said the research thus far shows biphosphanates given with a AI, decrease the risk of reccurance even further than the AI alone. Seems like a good idea to take a biphosphanate with the AI - as long as the SEs are few. And the thought of a bone scan at the end - perfect... it will screen for distant reccurance and bone strength, and it's paid for by the study. I would endure the sticks for the sake of research and hope I get a chance to participate.
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Yearofthehat, good luck with AC #4, oh, how I wish I was on AC #4! lol. Last one, woohoo! You can do it
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Back from A/C #4 and might I say...hip hip hooray!!! I feel such as sense of accomplishment. Completely done with A/C and halfway done with chemo besides
I'll be doing the neupogen with the Taxol as well. 7 needle sticks outweighs the "just hit in the back with a baseball bat" feeling
Today I took my wig off for the nurses to show that I do actually still have about half of the hair on my head. They ooh'ed and aaahe'd. Actually, they were trying to figure out if they are advising (when asked) folks to shave their heads too soon. But I think I'm really a rarity at this point. I mean it's most definitely going, going, going...but it is taking it's sweet time.
Yearofthehat, good luck today! I just got home from my 4th A/C I'm feeling ok right now. You'll be fine. BTW, I PM'ed you. Did you get it?
holtbolt - I've been asked to be on that same trial. Did they tell you to make a dentist appointment? I'm so slack about that, hee. Docs want me to get through one round of taxol first.
Stay well and feel good everyone!
Diane
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Also wanted to add that my oncologist freaked me out today. I asked her (thanks to some postings I've seen from my Jan Jewels) about having ovaries removed, was it necessary, blah, blah, blah...She launched into a response that started with "Well, since you're ER-..." I was like "I'm ER +" She said, no you're Triple Negative
Holy crap! No that it's any better or worse but I was thinking holy crap, are we going down the wrong path? She quickly flicked through my file and confirmed that I'm ER+/PR+. She was so embarassed. Had to let her off the hook, though. I was like, you have 100 of me to worry about, I only have one.
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shocked - are you going to do the trial? Yes, you apparently have to have a dental exam because osteonecrosis of the jaw (permanent damage to the jawbone) is a rare SE of the drugs and I think they want to make sure your mouth is healthy at the get-go and you're not someone at risk for that, So, when the onc saw you were ER+/PR+, did she then recommend ovary removal?
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Holtbolt...I think so. Supposedly it's been very successful and I feel like I will do anything I can to help with research on this beast.
Re: ovaries, it was a wait and see thing. If my period isn't supressed by tamoxifen she thinks we should talk about it. Although not necessarily a removal, but some other way of supressing their activity.
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I know this is a bit of an extreme view on it.....but part of the reason I want the ovaries and uterus removed is those are 2 less things I can get cancer of. Even if the Tamoxifen puts me into menopause, I still want them out. As well, Uterine cancer can be a side effect of Tamoxifen.
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Diane and Year of the Hat--CONGRATULATIONS on finishing the AC! I was so happy to be done with that. Hoping you have no SEs.
PrincessKauai- Wow--you're almost done!! Any fingernail issues? For SEs, what's the best day to get the treatment. I hope to go back to work 3 days, and I was thinking I'd try to get tx on Fridays. I'll check out the PT lead. I really like the therapists at the Alta Bates Cancer Center, and I think that my visits are limited by my insurance--WHICH I GOT REINSTATED!! Hooray.
Brenda--Hope you start feeling better after your next (last??) AC. They tell me too that the Taxol will be easier. I'll be REALLY po'd if it isn't. I mentioned to my clinical trial coord. that I'm already so tired of this that I can't imagine doing the Avastin for months more if I'm in that arm of the trial. Twice she's looked at me and said if you are, then FOR YOU you should really go through with it. Of course I wonder what that means!!! I'm going to get up my nerve to ask her. Like what does she know that I don't??
Holtbolt--I think there has been some discussion on some thread here about that. I'm on the Avastin/Placebo trial for high risk of recurrence. !The thread for that is under Just Get me through treatment. I'm going to try to push for the Zometa anyhow once I finish chemo because it shows promise. I need to talk with my onc more, as he didn't seem convinced (since it's still being researched). Good luck!
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Hotbolt, interesting you mention this. I just told my onc today I would sign up for the bisphosphonate trial. Probably kathy above states it better then I can. The trial looks win win to me knowing what we know now about bisphosphonates. Plus, the fact that I was able to use oncotype testing for decision making, knew that TC was a great option for me, and have good information regarding Tamoxifen vs. AI's and ovarian suppression after chemo all came because the women ahead of me were willing to go on trial. I like feeling like I'm paying that back and helping the next generation of women going through this.
Year of the Hat, agree with what the others have said. Sending as much reassurance your way as I can
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good day!
Wed I went for T/C number 3 and was happily surprised to find out I would be doing only 4 instead of the 6 like I thought! I was really happy, as it was getting harder and harder to psyche myself up for the next treatment. My worst side effect is taste and it bothers me a lot.
I know in a week it will be gone, I want my OJ to taste good again!
The nuestra shot doesn't seem to bother me that much... motrin helps. My WBC have been 7.9 each time. I joked with her yesterday when I got the shot.. for the cost, it shouldn't give us pain!! Guess I will thank my mom for making me drink all that milk when I was younger. The doctor also told me I could eat fresh fruit. That made me happy as it has been hard to pass up those fresh strawberrries and grapes in the grocery store.. Looking forward to them tasting good next week!!!
Today has been rough, I let time go by while getting taxes ready for the accountant, that I should have taken a nausea pill earlier but hopefully it will kick in soon. Made some home made macaroni and cheese in crock pot. It was nice and bland, but then it was probably my taste buds
Have been knitting some hats, hopefully will get another one done this weekend. Signed up for the Look Good, feel Better program in April.
Also need to call about Radiation, as they called the other day about when I would be starting. Guess around the first of April, since my last chemo will be March 11th
I did ask him why 4 instead of the six and he said it hasn't been proved that 6 is really better than four and with my report 4 would be fine. I didn't argue.
Enjoy your weekend
sally
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For all those starting or winding up A/C - it does end!!! I had my last one Thurs. and everything feels better just because I know -- no more red stuff. Glad to hear taxol is easier. Hey what's with this period stuff? How annoying. It would be fun to make a collection of all the weird dreams we have while going through this!!
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Ninja--It looks like we have similar schedules. Had my last AC last Thurs. Doing the Neupogen shots to up my WBC (down to 1) and Levaquin. What's your Taxol schedule?
Had terrible news today from my dh that our friend's husband was taken off life support after being hit by a bus last week. Their youngest is my oldest's age (21). So much sadness...so unfair. Marymoir was right that worrying about the unknown is a waste of energy. I'm going to try to do better and live for the day and look forward to tomorrow. And give my family and friends love and smiles as best I can.
Well, HUGS!!! to all. My dd brought some friends over to spend the night, which helps my attitude.Teenage girl energy. Hope everyone has a great weekend with NO SEs.
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Berekely Kim - sorry about your friend's husband. Like you, I received terrible news. A dear friend (a mom of 2 young boys, ages 4 and 3) is fighting lymphoma. Chemo is not working. She was told today to call hospice. I've been so caught up in HER cancer.
I'm so sad for her but I also need to take care of me. It's hard. Just commiserating with you. Hang in there!
Lisa
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Oh, Lisa, SO SORRY about your friend. More tears... little boys too. When my sister was up here last weekend, the onc. nurse gave her a book she was reading on lymphomas because my sister's good friend's 15 yr old daughter just got diagnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma. I'll try to get the name of the book if she remembers it. They just started chemo with her. When will it stop??? Your kind, positive attitude should be a great support to her. I'm wishing all the best for her and her family.
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Fingernails have been fine on weekly Taxol regimen. I did take off all polish and cut both toenails and fingernails short as a preventative before Taxol started. Some achiness, some rashiness but think that is partly due to the steroids that I get (10 mg IV dexamethasone) before each Taxol. Toxic taste in mouth. GI stuff (don't need laxitives)
Thanks to those of you in trials. I couldn't do the extra on that front and opted out.
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Hello All,
I am 1 week past my second chemo treatment and all my hair, except for hard stubles, is gone. I am having a very hard time wearing hats. My scalp is just too itchy and I started a rash. Any one else who has the same problem? Any suggestions?. What is this leg hair thing?? One would think you would get a break not having to shave. You lose your hair of your head and everywhere else but not your legs? What gives. Also any of you having problems with weight gain? I seem to have slight swelling in my hands and my abdomen seems larger. Otherwise my energy has returned and I am looking forward for a better week.
Sending all you angels "feel good" vibes, Johanna
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