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shelloz1
shelloz1 Member Posts: 405

Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the difference is between being HER2+ or ++ or +++.  My oncologist told me that my results were HER2 + (VERY positive), I didn't have a count.

Shelley

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  • ejlj
    ejlj Member Posts: 211
    edited January 2009

    hi shelley,  I think it has to do with the number of times  the her-2 neu protein replicates it's self.  the more it replicates, the more positive you are.  I too was very positive.  I'm not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing in regards of herceptin treatment?!?!   My thinking would be that the herceptin would tag it more easily, but i could be wrong.  I too would like to hear from the others on this.  Tina

  • Roxy3
    Roxy3 Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2009

    Her2+++ mean you have strong positivity for her2. Herceptin traditionally is only given for strongly +++, as it is more effective for strongly positive. However, nowdays, they are finding if you are only slightly positive for her2++, you may respond to Herceptin also.

  • ipursuit
    ipursuit Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2009

    Shelley,

    I think that typically the "HER2+" text string is used by people to indicate HER2 factor overexpression (ie. "positive") as opposed to on a path report where ist can be shown as:

    0 (not overexpressed)

    1+ (not overexpressed)

    2+ (borderline overexpressed), or

    3+ (overexpressed)

    Your diagnosis appears to be the last of these. 

    As I understand it, it is hard to get a false positive for HER2 (my path report actually had a photo of the cells showing the staining and pattern that was pretty obvious).  However, when initial IHC (immunohistochemistry) testing comes back with an ambiguous result (ie. +1 or +2) they are supposed to order a more sensitive testing called FISH to clarify if the tumor is HER2+ or not. 

    HER2 is actually a protein that sits on the outside of the cell membrane.  When it is overexpressed there are too many of them on the outside of the cell membrane.  This overexpression causes cells to grow too much, spread and clump together (in other words, aggressive cancer).

    Herceptin antibodies latch on to the HER2 proteins and tag the cells for destruction by your immune system.  Your immune system is what actually kills the HER2 cells. 

    Hope this helps.

  • plakatakr
    plakatakr Member Posts: 188
    edited February 2009

    I am also very positive. I had a score on my Fish test of 9. My onc said I have my pedal to the metal!

  • chicagomom
    chicagomom Member Posts: 35
    edited March 2010

    Is it better to be HER2+ or HER2++ HER2+++???

  • Boo307
    Boo307 Member Posts: 222
    edited March 2010

    I had one of the highest copy rates of any my oncologist has seen, but she said that seemed to not be relevant.  Herceptin is the treatment of choice and a high rate doesn't seem to increase the chances of recurrence. 

    That's counter intuitive to me, but she should know.

    Boo

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