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  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited February 2009

    Suzmarks:  Well, I definitely freaked out in the shower before work yesterday; lost soooo much hair, and hadn't really played with my wigs yet.  I had an hour before my ride picked me up for work, so I was panicking.  I ended up gently blowdrying what was left (I have thick hair, so more than I had imagined), and putting it up in a clip, so it looked good enough, used tons of hairspray.  Just needed to buy that one more day.

    I tutor 4 different classes, and decided to tell 2 classes, and didn't tell the other 2 classes, an experiment in how this goes.  So far, the class that knows doesn't really say much about it, a student or two asks how I am doing, no big deal.  I am wondering how they will react to the wigs, however, since I have yet to find one exactly like my own hair.

    And YES, my reading vision has gotten worse, but not all the time, if that makes sense.  Sometimes it is just worse than usual, sometimes it's not.  Strange. 

    Michele:  I am soooo glad you are having a better time with tx 2, and I hope that holds true for you.  My hair was coming out like crazy, but not "clumps" yet, just tons of loose strands whenever I would gently pull.  So after work last night, I took scissors to it to shorten it, kinda a Dorothy Hamill, like I had back in 8th grade!  Anyway, it is so itchy at this point, I will probably use the clippers today and just be done with it.  I can feel it down my jammies all night, and it's driving me nuts.

    LisaBarr:  isn't it crazy how long we're there for?  I am glad my DH can take me and hang out with me all day, although I am bummed he is laid off right now.  I don't know how I'd make it to chemo, though, if he was at work, so....for now, it's working out ok.

    Regarding food issues, green tea is good for cancer patients, just NOT during chemo.  You can drink it again afterwards, though, it's just that the antioxidants could interfere somehow.  Sugar, on the other hand, is fine in moderation, since even if you avoid sugar, your body will change starches into the sugar that it needs.  It's not just cancer cells that feed off sugar, all cells in your body do.  So just eat in moderation, like usual.

    I have found that the steroids are hitting me harder this time, but by interrupting my sleep.  I keep waking up really early, and I'm wide awake.  Then I need to nap later.  Ugh.  I was up at 3 am this morning, and didn't even go to bed until midnight last night.  Then on and off sleep til 5am, then lay awake and get up at 6.  So not me, especially on son's week off from school!

    See you Fab Feb Furies later

    Judy

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited February 2009

    KerryMac:  we posted simulataneously about the tea, ha.  I have not heard about tampons, that's a good question, since my period should be here next week....hmmm.  I figure there's no way I'll get lucky and not have my period, but it would be nice to skip that during chemo.

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    Well, that was one of my "silver linings",,,,mmmmm, just have to wait for the hormones I guess.

  • xpectmiracles
    xpectmiracles Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2009

    OMG Kerry! I thought I was not going to have any painful, messy period during chemo. Oh well. I hope you're not gettiing a lot of cramping.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited February 2009

    Suzanne,

    I have vision problems too, ever since my first AC started back in Sept.  Now on Taxotere and I'm not sure if it's getting worse, but it sure ain't getting better.  I can't even see what's on my dinner plate clearly!  I need to go get an eye exam and get a script for reading glasses. Just not fair. Another thing to pay for!

    Took me a good 6 days after last Taxotere to feel normal again.  One thing that is different on the Tax then when I was on the AC is that my blood counts have been "wonderful" according to my onc.  On AC I had anemia twice and on antibiotics once for an "infection alert" cause it really did a # on my counts

    Kerry-I still get periods too. Never heard of not using tampons though?! Ugg.

    Feel good ladies and keep strong!

    Sue

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    I know, it sucks! Anyhow, could have been worse and got it next week when I am doing round # 3! I am not sure about the tampon thing - I will have to look around the Internet. I know I read it somewhere before I started treatment, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to worry about it.

    Sue - sorry the Taxotere took a long time to recover from. My last round of FEC took me 8 days for me to feel normal again. Glad your blood work was good though. I have heard such conflicting responses to Taxotere - some find it easy, some terrible. Guess I will find out in 4 weeks time. Still, nothing we can't handle, eh!!

  • kat4pink
    kat4pink Member Posts: 63
    edited February 2009

    Thanks for asking that question kerry, I have been wondering the same thing!!

     FINALLY got my start date confirmed this morning - next Thursday..2/26/09..TACx6 every 3 weeks. I know it's the end of February, but I am going to stay on this thread since I kinda like you guys! hehe lol  It all seems very real now.. yikes!

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    I just found something on chemocare.com that said not to use tampons if you have a low blood count or are prone to infection. I guess that means no tampons... yuck!!

    I need a follow-up Ovarian ultrasound to check on a cyst, and my Onc  scheduled it for after chemo, as it is internal and she said during chemo there is too high a risk of infection. I guess it is the same for Tampons.  Better to be safe than sorry.

  • ginagina
    ginagina Member Posts: 327
    edited February 2009

    Susan13 - my mom went through chemo last year and her eyesight got really bad. But her onco told her not to have her eyes tested or get new glasses until 3 months after chemo becuase it would change again (persumably the effects of the chemo wear off and it improves). She was told to wait and not waste the money.  Her eye sight did improve "a bit", but then she found out she had cateracts. The silver lining there is that there is new cateract surgery available where they implant a new perscivite lense (news to me); it is extra $$ of course, but  for the first time in 40 years (she is 65) shes now has better than 20/20 vision and doesn't need any glasses at all.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited February 2009

    It's always something!

    I too have a cyst or a fibroid that I need to have followed-up after chemo.  I think from now on if we get a pimple on our nose they're going to want to "follow-up" on it.

    Kerry-Don't worry about the Taxotere, for me it's not horrible.   I read horror stories on these boards from some women on Tax. and I totally freaked myself out, for nothing!  We all react differently to our poisons.

    Thaks gpd, I guess I'll hang on and wait and see what happens with my vision when chemo is done. I think enough money has been spent on wigs!

    Sue

  • kmn0701
    kmn0701 Member Posts: 117
    edited February 2009

    Terry42....yes, our five year old also cut her own hair (trying to imitate her favorite Disney movie heroine Mulan) when she was about three. Actually she did it twice! AGH!!! That's exactly why I won't let our NOW three year old be there when we shave my hair off! Oh the memories! lol

    Kerry....I think I did read somewhere about no tampons too. Although I DID use them (sparingly) this week as I was on my period (nothing like cramps & period nausea to add to the chemo crap!). I was going to talk to my Onc next week about it as I have another appointment with her then. I HATE not using tampons! 

    OH...I also wanted to mention my first chemo day I was there from 8:00 - 4:00. It was SOOO long. I had a "chemo class", then a doctor's appt, then labs, then FINALLY at 11:00 they started my chemo. So much waiting around. I had a couple books, DVD player, snacks & a friend brought me lunch & hung out for a bit...which was nice. I also took a nap since they gave me a sedative (don't remember which one). It wasn't too bad, just looooooong.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009

    just wanted to mention what my then 8 year old daughter said when i told her i had breast cancer, that i'd have to do chemo and would probably be bald soon....

    she looked me square in the eye and said "you better wear a hat or something.  we don't want your hair all falling out all over the house".  this is my biological daughter... the one who rearranges her closet weekly and will scold me for the crumbs in the silverware drawer,

    (son #2 didn't take it so well.. running outside to puke)

    kind of off topic..

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited February 2009

    So add me to the (almost) bald club.  Got my head shaved today w/ just fuzz left.  Unfortunately, I think that Webbie and Apple have the marktet cornered on looking good bald... <grumble> My Dd (3) cried for like 2 hrs when I got home.. She called me "ugly", "not her momma", and lots of other mean things.Frown

    On a GREAT note, the premeds helped a ton this time.  No wicked puking.  Just nausea (like PG nausea).... so, its all good. Plus, I've been downright active today. 

    Hope everyone is having a great day!

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009

    no one wants to be bald.. it's just awful.

    i have to tell you about my Catholic hurch community.. it's large, 1500 families or so and i play for services.. pretty prominently - right in the middle.

    when i first lost my hair, i was sooo self conscious.  i wore scarves artfully tied or a hat.. i had not yet found my look.  I have a tenor, a 64 yr. old, sometimes tipsy, Irish tenor who has a wild streak.  I was playing during communion on the organ.. people walk past me (just a foot a way from my back) on the way back to their pews.  Pat (that's his real name) stole my cap and scarf and kept walking.  i had to keep playing and pretend that he had not only broken a pledge of solemn propriety by stealing it during Communion, but endure the stares of like 400 people,  all craning to get a look.   One of the more responsible men got the hat from Pat and stuck it back on my head.  i was just appalled   i mean really appalled.. close to tears and flaming red.  no one had seen my head yet up till then, and of course everyone was dying for a peak.. i tried to sneak out after Mass but i was engulfed by kids and friends who wanted to see me bald.  .sooo i took off my hat and chatted for a while then went home and had a good cry.

    It kind of became a tradition or standing gag to steal my hat at church functions. i bet it happened 10 times.

    after a while i adjusted..... rolling my eyes, saying not again, trying to get my hat off before some stupid kids (or Pat) took it.  it was the weirdest thing..

    in retrospect kind of cool tho, because people were interacting with me in a very abnormal way and that is kind of what i needed at the time.  I'm not one for hugs and such.

    i really don't know what to make of it. .. i live in Kansas.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited February 2009

    Hi gals - I am out of steam so I am just checking in very briefly before I head upstairs to lay down - I had a very busy 2 days on steriods and my body is saying REST!

    Janzin is going to help me post some pictures here in this thread.  I am so technically challenged that I can figure out photobucket or the other one because I can't find either one place to give me a HTML code.  I don't know why this has been so difficult for me to share pictures with you.

    Chemo Wednesday was scary being the first time, I shed some tears but then sat back and read some old newspapers.  I am going to make sure I rent a movie the night before I go back so I have something to do.  The nurse was just awesome, always checking on me, gave me a hot blanket, asked if she could get me anything, etc.  She was trying to get rid of my fears and she did a great job at it.

    So on the steriods, I did some light cleaning at the barn yesterday using one arm only (me is scared of LE).  I helped take 20 horses to the pasture and bring those same guys in so I got 1 hour of walking exercise which I was told was very important.

    Can't remember what I ate Wed night.

    Thursday I made homemade pasta sauce with tomatoes (I know acidic) and garlic bread - gals I have a cast iron stomach and that should prove it to you right there.  Nothing tastes good unless there is spice in it and I have not had a single bout of nausea.  My head fills full - I don't know how else to describe it, heavier?  but not dizzy.

    Today I rode a horse.  Well actually I walked into the arena to give my trainer something and then turned and walked back without looking and about got run over by a horse.

    My trainer said "that is it, you are not getting on a loose horse because who knows where you will end up and I will never get you back!"  She totally gets "chemo brain" so she put me on a lunge line which kicked butt because no hands, no stirrups, no eyes.  I was riding blind on top of this horse without any stirrup irons at all at the walk, trot, and canter.  Had a blast! 

    This is probably why I am just slowly feeling like I need to go lay down and go to sleep for awhile.

    I have been reading and hope to catch up with all of you tomorrow or later on tonight.

    MicheleS - I do want to say that I am so glad you are feeling better.

    Kat4Pink - hope I got your name right - please stay with our group!

    Last night I could have sworn I read about someone here having a white film on their tongue - my chemo class nurse said if that was to happen to call the oncology center for meds because it could be thrush so don't take it lightly - sorry can't remember who posted about it and for all I know you already got an answer.

    Ok, off to send pictures to Janzin so she can post them for me!

  • kmn0701
    kmn0701 Member Posts: 117
    edited February 2009

    apple, you are a bigger person than me! I think I would have turned around & HIT that fool! Even if I were at church. That's just not right.

    jancie...hope you are able to rest.

    I had my first Herceptin only txtment today. The IV drip was only about 30 minutes! And the best part is I feel pretty good. Let's hope it continues!

    I'm off to the airport to pick up my best friend from HS. I haven't seen her since my wedding 7.5 years ago! She's coming in for a quick visit & tomorrow we're going wig shopping! Laughing I don't really know how much I'll wear a wig, especially once it gets hot here, but I do want to at least have one (well....one that's NOT pink!). Wink

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    Jancie - glad it went OK. We watch movies or TV too - I find reading hard. Don't you love those hot blankets!! I cannot believe you are out riding horses! You go girl!!! Hope you get some rest - after treatment I have felt super-wired in my brain, but tired in my body, which I think is the Steroids.

    Apple - well, I would have collapsed in a heap! I couldn't even imagine the mortification....I worry about my wig/hat coming off unexpectedly. My husband keeps threatening playfully to whip it off when we are out shopping etc, I tell him it really would be not at all funny! Funny thing is, my Wig is quite different from my old hair, I thought I would try out a new look. But now of course, people who don't know about the cancer (like other Mums at my daughters school) keep commenting on my new hair cut!! So imagine their surprise if I am there and whoops, off it fell. Because I am in the "Great White North" I need a hat AND a wig (it is all minus 11C this morning, all you people moaning about how hot your wigs are!!) and I need to be careful - taking the hat off often takes the wig off too!

     

    Kristine - hope you have a great visit with your friend. I have reconnected with a couple of old friends since diagnosis too, it has been really nice.  I thought I would do the whole bald thing without a Wig, but have bought one, which i have ended up wearing a lot more that i thought. I think it is really nice to have - sometimes you want to go out and just feel "normal".

    I don't know how to post photos either, does anyone know how? It would be great to get a look at everyones bald heads and their kids/pets etc....

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009
    Jancie   That is so neat that you work with horses.  I always dreamed i'd become a horse vet when i was girl. 
  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    Ha, so funny, so did I!! I loved horses, dreamed of owning one, always wanted to go riding, etc. It is funny because now I am a bit afraid of them - even the little tame ones my kids ride on at the zoo, I get nervous having to lead them around!!

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009

    &*(%^$#  ^&*#$%# ##@ %$ # #$%@!

    my hair is falling out.. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!  Frown  

    i really wanted to keep it this time.  waaah

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited February 2009

    Embrace the bald!!

    Actually, I totally feel for you, I would hate to lose it all again too. 

  • xpectmiracles
    xpectmiracles Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2009

    Hi all!

    I have purchased my wigs. My insurance covered the cost of 2 so I have 2 different looks. Neither are like my real hair. I also went online a purchased some head scarves and a sleep cap. Reading one after another posts about us loosing our hair is getting me scared!!! I feel such a bond with you all and I am glad we are going through this together, but I still want to cry! I am scared about the experience of seeing my hair fall out. Not knowing when it will happen for me is driving me crazy! I need to go get a tissue...

  • suzmarks
    suzmarks Member Posts: 83
    edited February 2009

    Just wanted to add some very good info about wearing hats and looking pretty normal. I bought a bangs wig which tucks right under the front of the cap and looks very real. Also you can put it in the back and it looks like hair coming out from a cap. I wore it out tonight amongst friends and was told it looked good. They are  Henry Margu brand, style 228 Bang. A good addition to the wig/hat wardrobe.

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited February 2009

    Upon someone's recommendation, chemobrain has caused her name to escape me, I have found a marvelous use for my lint roller. It's keeping this shorn head clear of "debris" while I look for a way to keep it shaved while it continues to come out.

    Chins up, ladies. It's tough, but we can have fun with it while we're waiting for it to grow in again. (Apple, AGAIN? Maybe it won't be dark and curly next time?)

    Tired and fighting computer issues from months ago. Sigh.

    Hope all of you are doing okay.

    Oh, and Grace! I eat what I can when I can--and if i can't, I drink a Boost!

  • Denali
    Denali Member Posts: 347
    edited February 2009

    Please add me to the Feb list, as I began TCH Feb 12th.

    I've been dealing with nosebleeds all wkend and don't know whether to risk going into church and bleeding on the pews.  sigh.

    I received the wig I ordered, but have to have it styled.  It's a different color than my hair, but the people I know are aware I'm doing chemo so they know it's not mine anyway.  The folks who aren't aware, will stare at me and say to themselves, " How DOES she have time to fix her hair like that every morning??"  I think we should definitely have fun with this.  I plan to get the bangs and longer hair to wear with scarves and hats.  A different wig or hat for each of my moods.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    welcome, denali. sorry you need to be here, but also glad you found us. i like your fun perspective.

    i hope i find my fun-okay-with-being-bald soon. i've lost quite a bit of hair since thursday, tho i can still get by. i knew this was coming, i know it's a small price to pay, but i can't deny that i'm heartbroken.

    i'm off to my Wig Angel in a few. she's going to give me a good shampooing and scalp massage ... i guess most of it might fall out then. i'll just feel safer when i have my wig styled and ready to go. i bought a fun shortie strawberry blonde wig from TLC, and it's soooo uncomfortable, even with my remaining hair to cushion it. it's going back.

    fyi: second treatment so far is fine. i'm way more relaxed about it this time. maybe because i'm not freaking out over whether every little thing is a possible side effect. and i can't remember who suggested the metamucil and miralax combo, but i think this is working for me. so thank you! 

    judy, i hope you're mom's doing ok, and michele i hope you're feeling much better this time around.

    sorry i don't have it in me for more individual shout-outs today. please know that i send my best feel-good wishes and strength & coping vibes continually.

    (((everyone))) 

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited February 2009

    Webbie, what's "little monkey" up to?  Haven't heard you mention her recently.  She holding up ok except for insisting you keep your hat on?

  • csbsk123
    csbsk123 Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2009

    Hi girls:

    I am having a good weekend and enjoying it since TC herceptin #2 is Wednesday and the dreaded Neulasta shot on Thursday.  I'm going to try the Claritin this time and hopefully the bone and joint pain won't be so bad.  All taxotere people I was told green tea oil was good to put on your nails to help prevent the blackening and nail loss.  I put it on at night and sure hope it works.  I'm going to ask about the dark nail polish this week.  I havn't lost any hair yet and am getting use to my buzz cut.  I am waiting for the morning I wake up and my pillow is covered.  I have two wigs, but the one that is suppose to be my natural color is too grey.  I have a cute brunnette bob I'm going with for work tomorrow.  I'm waiting to see if security stops me on my way into work.  It looks nothing like my old hair or my ID badge. Have a good weekend ladies!

    Cheri 

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited February 2009

    Lisa:  my wigs are quite uncomfortable, too.  I think until every bit of hair is gone from my head, the wigs will feel like that. 

    Today is definitely my worst day this tx; I feel sooo sick.  I am having a lot of dizziness, and my hands have been kinda numb all day.  Weird.

    My mom is having her heart surgery tomorrow, as long as she is strong enough.  So it will be a long, hard day.

    Hugs to all,

    judy

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