What is the best diagnostic test(s) to determine if you have IBC

KPolasek
KPolasek Member Posts: 184

My daugther is 30, has 4 children, breastfed 3 of them.  She has been searching for an answer as to why her left boob is hurting ....the pain shoots down her arm ... and even has problems with her leg (there was a swelling that the doc could not figure out why). 

She has read about IBC and is scared that this is what she has.  I was diagnosed in 2007 with and was treated for Invasive ductal carcinoma, had lumpectomy, chem or rads (33) and am triple negative (I am 54 yrs old - my grandmother, father's side died from breast cancer when she was 53 -- I don't know what kind). So, she has great reason to be afraid.  She has felt a lump in the breast and so did the breast surgeon she saw.  The breast surgeon ordered a mammogram but it did not show anything.

For those of you who have experience with IBC .... what is the best way to know for sure that you do not have it?  What tests?

Blessings,

K

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  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited February 2009

    The best scans are

    PET/CT

    MRI

    The best blood test is a CA27.29

    The best test is a Punch Bx

    But the best thing to do is find a Breast Clinic that knows with IBC. 

  • debralynb
    debralynb Member Posts: 23
    edited February 2009

    Hi K,

     I am so sorry that your daughter is going through this.  As for me,  the mammogram didn't show my IBC either.  The tests that were more conclusive were MRI and Biopsy.  The biopsy was actually the clincher  that not only confirmed cancer,but the kind of the cancer. The PET was done later to determine if my cancer had spread. 

     I agree with ibcspouse, find a clinic that knows IBC.  Many doctors have not seen IBC and may misdiagnose it as an infection.

     Hope this helps,

    Deb 

  • Caseysmom
    Caseysmom Member Posts: 507
    edited February 2009

    Hi K:

    I was mammogram was negative I had a biopsy done and that is how I found out that I had IBC.

    Laura

  • angeltam
    angeltam Member Posts: 248
    edited February 2009

    I believe like all Breast Cancer there are different ways to be tested and there are some test that just for some odd reason won't show up if cancer is present for some and some that will... With that being said I recently was told by a Dr. at M.D. Anderson; via e-mail below copied and pasted the following.....

    "Thus, since IBC does not occur as a definable breast lump or mass, and
    because its symptoms are not typical signs of breast cancer, the standard
    tests for breast cancer (including punch or needle biopsies) would not be
    effective in determining the presence of IBC. Only a surgical biopsy,
    according to the information in given above, is considered to be able to
    detect the presence (or the absence) of IBC."

    I pray that she is  B9.

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited February 2009

    Angel,

    That is interesting and curious...The "chief" IBC breast surgeon at MD Anderson at a Conference said "excision biopsy bad idea,  rarely or ever necessary."  to dx IBC.  I remember this clearly because he used photos of my wife's breast as the example.  She had an excision bx at another clinic just days before coming to MD Anderson.  This just goes to prove that IBC is an animal that has not yet been well defined.

  • angeltam
    angeltam Member Posts: 248
    edited February 2009

    Yeah and it's scary. I hear one thing and than another. I am sorry if this is the wrong information, I was just repeating (copy/pasting) what information I was given to better help me get a DX from a BS. Although it did come from M. D. Anderson I would be more inclined to listen to the "Chief IBC BS" myself.

    I want to CORRECT myself. "Sometimes the only way to find the underlining cancer of IDC or ILC is to do the surgical, but the punch is the pathological way of dx's the IBC part. If you have IBC, you have either IDC or ILC.  and the e-mail I was written came from the information officer at MDA. It seems he had written it in the wrong way which confused me.

    I do hope that has not caused any unnecessary worry or any problems.I Apologize.

    I guess it's like the old saying "Breast Cancer doesn't hurt" or "Check for a lump" or "You can't have cancer you're too young".... There is something new to learn all the time or to find out really isn't good/bad....

    Thank you ibcspouse.

  • carol12345
    carol12345 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2013

    hi i felt a lump on my left breast 4 years ago i said what if this is cancer so i had a mamogram and since i said i felt a lump i got a ultra sound i had cancer the mamogram said there was nothing there but the ultra sound saw something they cut out the cancer i had radiation so DONOT TRUST MAMOGRAMS  IF THERE IS A LUMP HAVE MORE TEST DONE i wish i had a masectomy because now i have scare tissue that feels like lumps i am afraid so now i dont know if i have cancer or scares that feel like lumps when i get a ultra sound there is something there but they say its not growing so it must be scare tissue well is there any better test out there that i dont know about thank you

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited November 2013

    You found a lump and was told you had Inflammatory Breast Cancer (IBC)?  They "cut out the cancer" but did not do a mastectomy?  No neoadjuvant chemo only radiation?  ER/PR and HER2 status?

    IBC does not present as a 'lump' - it presents as 'bands' or 'nests'.  Yes, it usually does not show on mammos or US so biopsies are meeded.   Neoadjuvant chemo (chemo BEFORE surgery) is done to get it to hopefully shrink and form a 'lump' with margins so the surgeon can get it.  I have never heard of anyone not having a mastectomy with IBC or not doing chemo.  Most I know have done 2 different types of chemo before sirgery and gone on to rads after.  My TX plan was different a bit - I did 4 DD A/C neoadjuvant followed 2 weeks later with surgery.  3 weeks after surgery I did 12 weekly Taxol followed a week later with 25 rads.

  • kareenie
    kareenie Member Posts: 339
    edited November 2013

    this was carols first post she probably posted on this thread by mistake. no doubt she has idc or ilc not ibc.

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