bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction

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mack3
mack3 Member Posts: 2

Is is possible to have bilateral mastectomy with immediate recon and have my ovaries removed all at the same time? If so what is the recovery time?

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  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited July 2008

    Hi mack3,

    I would suspect that all three could probably be done at the same time but you would need to check with your surgeons.  As far as the recovery time it would really depend a lot on your body and if you have any complications or not.  It would also depend on the type of reconstruction you are having.  From reading things on the boards it seems as if reconstruction with expanders seems to take a little longer to heal than reconstruction without expanders.  It is also different time table for different flap recons as well.  So unfortunately there are many different factors that play into the recovery time table.  Sorry that I wasn't much help.

    Keep laughing,

    Jenny

  • priz47
    priz47 Member Posts: 470
    edited July 2008

    Depending onwhat type of reconstructionyou are having depends on recovery. Most MD's do not want to remove ovaries at same time. I had a unilat with TRAM reconstruction and that is a major surgery. I plan on having my ovaries out, but knew it would be too much. Also it depends on your health, if you are having chemo or radiation....

    D

  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 2,230
    edited July 2008

    Hi mack3 - and welcome to bc.org!

    I had bilateral mastectomies with immediate reconstruction (DIEP/SIEA) and broached the subject with my plastic/microsurgeon beforehand. He rejected it straightaway. This is a complex and time-consuming enough surgery on its own. Besides, it's a crowded operating theatre already, what with FIVE surgeons and all their support staff -  oncologic surgeon to do the mastectomies (I'm BRCA-1 so a general surgeon wasn't adequate), my DIEP-experienced plastic surgeon, and three resident surgeons from USC/UCLA (because there is an emarrassing dearth of DIEP-able surgeons in So CA).

    Just my experience. . .

    Lisa

  • jsbridges
    jsbridges Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2008

    Dear Mack3,

    Yes it is possible. I will be having a double mastectomy with reconstruction along with a complete hysterectomy on Monday of next week. My Doctors are confident I can handle all of it at one time. I don't know how confident I am, but I am ready to get this over with.

    Should you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I will be glad to give you any info I have.

    jsbridges

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited July 2008
  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited July 2008
  • mack38
    mack38 Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2008

    jsbridges  let me  how you make out. I wish you all the best please keep me posted on your recovery! I would like to do the same procedures , but dr. is not to keen on the idea! I also need to decide the type of recon by Thursday that is another thing i need advice on have heard alot about tram and deip but really don't understand the deip?

  • SuperMujer
    SuperMujer Member Posts: 100
    edited July 2008

    Hi,

    Joining the two surgeries depends upon what type if reconstrcution you are having done. Obviously you cannot have a tram flap and TAH/BSO. You can however have a mastectomy, skin expanders inserted and a TAH/BSO. I am sheduled for removal of skin expanders and TAH/BSO at the same time in August. It does reqiure the cooperation of two surgeons which is not always possible.

    Good Luck.

    LA

  • ddart
    ddart Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2008

    I had double mastectomy with tram flap reconstruction in April and that surgery took 6 hours. Then on July 25th, I had TAH combined with a hernia repair (caused from the tram flap) and implants put in during same surgery. I had to get surgeons to schedule surgery together and that surgery lasted 6 hours also.  So, make sure you know how long it will take. Both of my surgeries took about 2 hours longer than they expected.

    Debbie

  • Jeansbeans
    Jeansbeans Member Posts: 175
    edited August 2008

    Hi Mack3  I had double mast. with tissue expanders put in same day. I spoke to my surgeons about a hysterectomy and ovaries removed at the time of surgery. The Plastic Surgeon said NO!  Worried about infection.  So now I am waiting for a few months to go through ANOTHER surgery. I sure would like to have had it done all at once. Good Luck with everything, and if you are having tissue expanders for reconstruction please go to CONTINUED TISSUE EXPANDER PAIN!  You will find it so helpful.  Gentle HUGs to everyone . Jeanie

  • annh69
    annh69 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2008

    Hello,

    I am scheduled for a double mast with immediate reconstruct on November 18th.  My ovaries & tubes will also be taken out. I am BRCA 2+.  I got tested last November because my older sister was diagnosed with ovarian cancer.  All of my siblings got tested.  Out of 6 we were the two with the mutated gene.  We told our Mother we should get extra X-Mas presents since she mutated us.  LOL!  The decision to go through the surgery was a very hard one.  I am 38 and I have no children.  Several weeks ago I found out I was thrown into premature menopause.  To say it was like a knife to the heart would be an understatement.  Because of my BRCA mutation my gyn said the ovaries & tubes needed to come out ASAP. 

    This last year has probably been the hardest of my life to date.  All the doctor appts, MRI's, Mammo's and meds have literally thrown me into a depression.  As sad as I am I need peace of mind.  I haven't had in it in a while.  I need my life back.

    Everyone is different & I don't know if my story helps at all.  I'm scared but I'm more scared of the unknown.  Good luck to all of you!

    Ann

  • CAZ
    CAZ Member Posts: 678
    edited September 2008

    Dear Ann,

    I am terribly sorry you are faced with all of this.  I love the X-mas present line.  Laughter sometimes prevents the tears.  While it must be some comfort to have a game plan that could  save your life, I'm sure there must be some sense of loss.  With such a life changing experience, maybe talking to a mental health care specialist might help.  Depression could be a slippery slope, and you don't have to suffer in silence.  Lean on family and friends, and come to this board to be uplifted by these beautiful, powerful women.

    Best of luck,

    Carol(AZ)

  • annh69
    annh69 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2008

    Carol,

    Thank you for your post.  There is a huge sense of loss.  My heart hurts so bad right now sometimes I don't know how much more I can take.  It seems like I've been hit with too much at the same time.  I do best when I put it out of my mind, obviously that isn't very helpful.  I am talking to a therapist & all of my doctors insist on me speaking to a Psychiatris.  I have an appt scheduled for October.  The woman on this board are very brave.  I've been reading their posts since June.  It has been very helpful.  Thank you to al!

    Ann

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited September 2008

    Ann,

    I was diagnosed with IDC in April of this yr at the age of 40. The diagnosis alone is depressing but then you get hit with the ovary thing. I will probably not be able to have children either as I have not had a period in 6 mos. I am really sorry that you are going through this right now, but just know that when the grey clouds roll by you can finally see the sun. We will have our sunshine back, i just know it. You are NOT alone. Best wishes 

    Tracey

  • golightly
    golightly Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2008

    Ann -

    I've never met a Texan that I didn't love!  You are in my prayers; you have a right to be depressed.  This journey isn't fun, except that you do have many opportunities to meet some of the most incredible women!  Secondly, you find a strength within that amazes even you!  Ask your doctor to refer you to a good psychologist who can prescribe something for the depression.  This is all about loving yourself, and not being shy about reaching out for help when you need it.   I  too have no children, and this is actually one less worry as I go through this journey.   I saw a quote today from another site that says it all:  "it's okay to mourn their loss; it's not okay to let it ruin the life that you've been spared." 

    BTW -  I was diagnosed last week and tomorrow is the MRI, Chest X-Ray and Blood work.  The following week will be the surgery; I'm leaning towards having a double with reconstruction.  Unfortunately, my genetic testing can not be completed until December, so I can't use this info to weigh in on my decision.  I wish you peace and competent, wise doctors as you prepare, go through and recover from this surgery.    Hugs from Michigan!

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited November 2008

    Hi Ann,

    On October 22nd I had a bilateral with immediate reconstruction. It wasnt nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Yes I was sore but I am so happy that I got the expanders put in right away that I dont know what to do. My chest is sore but I atleast i have that behind me. Now I just have to get fills every other week until I am completely expanded.

    This journey does help you to realize exactly how strong we all are. It's like you have no idea until you get hit with something like this. But before you know it you are looking at this ordeal in your rear view mirror and whats ahead is all good. And you are so right about the people you meet along the way. This is like a club nobody wants to join but once you get here you cant imagine not knowing the powerful and amazing women you have bonded with.

    The waiting for the results is a drag but you are gonna be just fine, I just know it! Best wishes.

    Tracey

  • AngelaD
    AngelaD Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2008

    Hi Ann - 

    I had the BLM, SNB, BSO and tissue expander operation all on Oct. 13th.  The surgery took cooperation by 3 surgeons and lasted 8 hours.  I was in the hospital two nights, drains came out on day 18 and I was back to work every other day starting week four.  I had no complications and felt pretty good by the beginning of the 2nd week.   I'm 41, in fairly good physical condition and currently within my high to weight ratio (BMI range)  Hope this helps - if you have any questions feel free to contact me.

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited November 2008

    Angela,

    Just wanted to say that it's great to hear you are doin so good! I am also on the october recon thread. Good Karma from me to you!Wink Best wishes.

    Tracey

  • Mykidsmom
    Mykidsmom Member Posts: 1,637
    edited November 2008

    Ann - I am so very sorry that all this is happening to you at once. Please know that we are there for you any time of the day and night. Hugs to you. - Jean

  • sewell1
    sewell1 Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2009

    Hi to everyone  i was just reading your post jsbridges and  wondering how you are going. july last year had left mast, now found out i have bcra2 gene, and need to have ovaries out and thinking one op would be better than two, would like to have reconstruction at same time, with mast for right breast, am 44. Would love to know how you went or has anyone else had all three done in one op.

    and wondering how  annh69 is going, i feel about the same as you did. janice

  • Mykidsmom
    Mykidsmom Member Posts: 1,637
    edited February 2009

    Janice -Great post. I don't know how Ann is doing, but hopefully she will write back. There are a number of us that are going through tissue expanders and reconstruction right now, so you came to a great place. Best wishes. - Jean

  • sewell1
    sewell1 Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2009

    Thanks for your reply, hope everything is going well. Janice

  • Emily2008
    Emily2008 Member Posts: 605
    edited February 2009

    Hi Janice, I'm BRCA 2 pos also, and just had my prophy mast 2 weeks ago with TE.  I had a mast for IDC and had a TRAM done last August.  I thought about doing all things at once and having the mast and ooph at the same time. My BS advised against it because she felt that with the changes an ooph bring (immediate menopause), for someone my age, 36, it might be better to wait til all this breast recon issues are done.  When I thought about it, I decided I could only handle the breast junk now and will have the ooph at the end of the year.

  • MissD
    MissD Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2009

    Yes, and the sureons like it. I just asked my main surgeon whom he got along with best in plastics, and then whom they all really enjoyed working with in obgyn. And they apprciated this and I thought I rec. better care.

  • ladydocsings
    ladydocsings Member Posts: 12
    edited February 2009

    Hi, I'm new to this forum and have read through many messages with great interest. I guess I personally wouldn't want to do both the mastectomy (ies) and recon at the same time as an oophorectomy/hyst...i had sooooo much discomfort and had trouble moving in my hospital bed, and on and off exam tables, driving, etc that i was using my abs a lot more.  It could be that I was so much more uncomfortable because my PS did an initial fill at surgery of 120 mls and put in another 150 mls 8 days post op.  I could hardly move. He said that because i had Alloderm, that he needed the TE to push the Alloderm firmly against the overlying skin so it would incorporate better. On my last visit to "top them off" he said, "aren't you glad the filling is over already?"  Not sure about that.  And i have also read the "still having pain with TE's". Oh yes... the recliner and i are best buds now.   Anyway, if it were me, I would just do the surgeries separately. 

  • sewell1
    sewell1 Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2009

    Thanks  Emily, MissD and ladydocsing,  for your replies, its all to much thinking about so many things at once, so i will take it one at a time and see how i go. It helps so much to read about how other women cope that always gives me courage,especially knowing its going to be a long road, ovaries and then maybe the other breast( i would like to have kept one) and possibly a recon(if i am game enough) and the fear of the ovary op, what if they find something when they are there. One of the hardest things is thinking about my three teenage daughters and if i should get them tested yet, anyone have any thoughts on that, i know since i found out less than a week ago i have felt shattered, even though i suspected there would be something, as my mum and my sister of 55 was diagnosed in the last 5 years.  Thanks again girls Janice

  • lcfine
    lcfine Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2009

    I was diagnosed with breast cancer 4 yrs ago[6 weeks after my sister was ]  We were both tested and were BRAC2+ and our mother had ovarian cancer and her sister had breast cancer at 39.  My sister had her breast removed and I had a lumpectomy and we both had chemo and radiation.  Six months after I finished radiation I had a complete hysterectomy but I still could not come to terms with the bi lateral mastectomy even though all my doctors said it should be done. I waited 3 years and finally knew it was the best ting for me.  Dec 11th 2008 I had my breast removed and skin expanders put in , after 3 months the expanders were removed and the implants put in and 6 weeks later they created nipples and then they tattooed.  all together it took 8 months to finish but I'am so glad I did it , wish I would have done it in the first place when my doctors wanted to[when they removed my breast they found pre cancer cells in the breast that was cancer free]  I'm  59 yrs old and it really wasn't bad just time consuming.  As far as having all of the surgery done at once I didn't and I wouldn't.  Thats a lot to heal from.  Good luck and God Bless.

  • HeatherLL
    HeatherLL Member Posts: 7
    edited September 2009

    I just had bilateral matect with recon at the same time, totally doable.  I had my ooph when I was 19 though (I'm 34 now).  Best of luck & if you have any questions please feel free to private msg. me.

    Heather 

  • idgie719
    idgie719 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2009

    I am about to have a double mastectomy with immediate reconstruction on Wednesday.  I am having silicone implants put in.  Does anyone know how long the recovery time should be for this  I am supposed to go on a cruise Jan 10th and am worried I will be miserable on this thing.  My Dr's state I should be fine, but recovery can be 2-6 weeks, months before I am able to do everything I did before surgery after surgery.

  • Stonebrook108
    Stonebrook108 Member Posts: 237
    edited December 2009

    I had a bil mast. with direct implants like your having last Jan. I had 4 drains 2 of them were out in 6 days. The other 2 were in for 2 weeks. I had no real pain just tightness and feeling sore. It was very hard to do anything with my arms for weeks. I couldn't put my coat on without any help. I myself would wait to go on a cruise till I felt better. Best of luck to you

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