Any musicians who can't perform because of breast cancer?

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differentdrum
differentdrum Member Posts: 2

I'm a professional violinist who hasn't been able to return to playing since my surgeries and treatments. Is anyone else out there in the same boat? 

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  • faithandfifty
    faithandfifty Member Posts: 10,007
    edited February 2009

    I participated in an official "study" all about BC & musicians. It was very in-depth as they looked at the relationship between the two: BC & professional musicianship. I wonder if I have any of the info/contact stuff any more. This was probably over 6 months ago that I took the survey and contributed my experience.

    I am on the complete opposite end of the spectrum from you -- I write/perform music for young children & other than the time for rads, was able to pretty much keep my calendar on the go thru out my dx, sx and the aftermath. (I chose lumpect., rads, AI as my situation only involved DCIS.)

    Hoping that you are able to return to your violin shortly. Best of luck to you.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited February 2009

    dd:  I'm a pianist and now play only for my own enjoyment, and to do some accompanying. However, thanks to Femara, my hands ache all the time and I've also developed trigger finger in the middle fingers of each hand.  Needless to say, it's rather painful to play for any length of time.

    Wondering if your difficulties are a result of your surgeries?  I should think you might have problems with your arm if your surgery was on the left breast, or esp. if you have any lymphedema.

    Wishing you well,  Linda

  • Deb-from-Ohio
    Deb-from-Ohio Member Posts: 1,140
    edited February 2009

    I read Melissa Etheridge when she had breast cancer, refused Taxol because of fear of neuropathy.She took a pretty big gamble....but looks like it paid off...............

    Deb

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited February 2009

    I played electric bass professionally for 20 years -- then didn't for about 9 years before I got BC.  Now an old bandmate has asked me to form a new band with him.  I will keep you posted -- my mast was on left side -- easier than violin in that I don't have to hold arm out and hold instrument up while also fingering -- I will let you know.

    The other thing is that I'm a singer -- a fellow soprano and BC survivor who is taking AIs like me agreed that she is experiencing what I reported to her about loss of vocal quality -- voice thinner and less resonant -- "older"-sounding in less than a year -- my thought is that the lining/folds of throat/pharynx/nose, etc. are thinning and drying up similarly to what's happening "below the belt" -- but while I'm having good results restoring my mojo with lubricants, etc. -- I don't know how to put the bloom back on the rose in terms of my voice!

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited February 2009

    Different Drummer..... oh my..... I can so relate. I was a full-time professional violinist for many years, until my daughter was born. At that point I took some other work, but at least 30% of my time was still spent as a professional performer.

    But my dx with Breast Cancer took much of this away. Can you believe this? A colleague called every contractor to tell them about my dx, implying that I was not going to be ABLE to come back. As a freelance database developer, I couldn't use my brain during the treatments, and I went through all my savings. When I came out of the fog, my database clients still wanted me. My violin contractors were no longer calling.

    I have taken the easy way out. The aromasin makes me tired. I have a finite amount of energy everyday, and that energy is being used to service my database clients.

    Physically, I can still play, but I don't have the energy to keep my chops in shape and working at a level that makes me happy. So for now, my violin sits in a climate-controlled room next to my viola. I haven't given up though. I am not selling the violin [even though all of my financial problems would disappear if I sold it] and hope that in two years when I am finished with aromasin, my energy level will resurge.

    Why can't you return to playing? Is it physical, mental or does life seem to hard to do something as hard as playing at a professional level? And what are you doing instead? 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    I took part in the study about musicians and cancer, too.  Cancer totally took away my ability to play on a professional level.  I was playing paid-gigs for about 10 years, got cancer, and haven't done any since.  

    I hate that. 

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited February 2009

    Hi, all,

    This thread breaks my heart, but I'm hoping and praying you'll all be back to the important business of making music in good time. Just wanted to provide the link to the Musicians and Breast Cancer preliminary survey, which is still on-going. Sarah is hoping to use it to create interest in further research funding regarding bc veterans/musicians, in the hopes of decreasing the loss of musicianship from fatique, lymphedema and other bc side effects. Your participation will help!

    http://www.musiciansurvivor.org/

    Thanks!
    Binney

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited February 2009

    Oh, just wanted to add that returning to playing instruments that affect your arm (violin, viola) may actually be helpful for preventing lymphedema, since exercise is helpful for both control and prevention. BUT do so very carefully, paying attention to your arm and chest. If your arm feels tingly, achy or tired stop at once and proceed later (or the next day), building up gradually to your former level. Especially during practice, a compression sleeve and glove or gauntlet may be helpful as well. Best to get a referral to a well-trained lymphedema therapist (they aren't ALL well-trained!) for baseline arm measurements, risk reduction tips, fitting for garments, and learning a gentle massage you can use prophylactically. Here are two sites for finding a well-qualified lymphedema therapist near you:

    www.mylymphedema.com  (click on the Therapist Locator and follow all the links)

    www.clt-lana.org

    Be well!
    Binney

  • differentdrum
    differentdrum Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2009

    I have been in touch with Sara who is running the BC study. It is still too early for me to participate (you have to have finished treatments more than a year ago.) She recommended I try to connect with others through forums such as this. 

    There are still so many hurdles I face like: only being able to play for about 5 minutes before it hurts too much, twitching in my arm and hand which cause me to drop the bow and/or jerk the bow, inability to concentrate and on and on. I feel that my colleagues will be expecting me to come back to work soon and I fear it is still a long way off. I'm in a very high pressure, internationally known major orchestra and I have a principal position. Many of my colleagues have demonstrated a low tolerance for people being on disability (there was a person not long ago who abused the situation and made everyone skeptical) but I am no where near being ready to perform at ANY level, let alone the high level required for my job. 

    I'm also facing worries about my disability being terminated. I'm very lucky to have had a good LTD policy, but I can totally imagine a big insurance company not taking my situation seriously.

    Has anyone faced insurance companies? 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2009

    I will tell you this: Sara said that one thing she noticed with her results so far is that we as musicians do get back to where we were in our musical lives. 

    It made me feel a lot better, because not playing has made me feel like a void has been dug out of my very being. 

  • Sassa
    Sassa Member Posts: 1,588
    edited February 2009

    Although I am strictly am amateur musician, I have been playing my saxophone for 50 years.  I had severe problems with my neck, shoulders and left arm after my bilateral mastectomies and have spent the last year doing physical therapy for a while and am now continuing with the stretching exercises and massages on my own. 

    I need to get out my sax and the super-duper padded neck-strap I bought and see if I can support my instrument.  My goal is to join The Second Time Arounders Marching Band in St Petersburg next Fall. 

  • SarahSchm
    SarahSchm Member Posts: 9
    edited May 2009

    Hey All -  I have been conducting a study on musicians who are affected by breast cancer.  I'm a hornist and 5-year survivor, and my issues with radiation and surgery compelled me to start the study.  Contact me at sschmale@infionline.net, or log onto the study site musiciansurvivor.org and take the survey.  We had to limit the respondant pool to those done with treatment 1-5 years ago and no recurrence (plus USA only); but you are still encouraged to share your story at the end if you don't qualify for the full survey!   YOU ARE NOT ALONE, and THERE IS HELP 

  • SarahSchm
    SarahSchm Member Posts: 9
    edited May 2009

    You might find my article "Life and Livelihood:  Musicians Coping with Breast Cancer" helpful.  The essay describes the problems and my reason for doing a study.  Download the article at  http://www.rds.hawaii.edu/downloads/  You want Volume 4 Issue 1 (2008)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2009

    Hey!  It's Debbie, you and I spoke several months ago, and I've been curious about your study results!  I was also curious about that neuropathy creme you had utilized (that wasn't on the market).  Is it on the market yet? 

    PS-after talking to  you, I felt uplifted knowing that we eventually all get back on the "bandwagon" (no pun intended!). 

  • krcll
    krcll Member Posts: 343
    edited August 2009

    Differentdrum: I was just wondering how you are doing now? I am also a string player in a professional orchestra. Can I PM you?

  • SarahSchm
    SarahSchm Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2009

    Hi Debbie!  The study is going well, in fact the data collection will close soon.  Regarding the neuropathy cream, if you can get your doctor to contact Dr. Dean Fox at St. Marys Duluth Clinic, your doc can likely get either the formula or a prescription for it.  It has worked miracles on me.

    Over 300 musicians have logged onto musiciansurvivor.org, and over 100 qualified to take the full survey (1-5 years out of primary treatment---reconstruction and meds are not part of the 1-5 yrs).  Then another 100 contributed comments at the end.  And we have interviewed by phone nearly 40 musicians.  We are swimming in unprocessed data at the moment, but it's all great stuff.  I am so honored to be part of this unique group of survivors! 

  • maryrichards
    maryrichards Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2018

    I am also a violinist. I am four years out from my radiation. I have had pain/numbness/loss of strength/etc. in my fretting arm for over two years. I have gone to occupational therapy, had a cortisone shot in my wrist, and had many "diagnosis" from various doctors. Finally this week, a chiropractor in the local orthopedic clinic has revealed he has had 8 women in the last few years that have my symptoms in the "radiation" side.

    I feel like I am finally onto something, which includes stress effects making nerves tighten in my neck area.

    I have been told, one option is "stop playing".

    I am examining the "Alexander Technique for musicians", as well as multiple paths regarding these symptoms other musicians/cancer survivors have.

    I need other's feedback. Please tell me what your experiences. Thanks,


    Mary

  • FindingBalance
    FindingBalance Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2020

    Happened upon this thread today! I do not play violin much anymore but I have a private studio. Recently I've had recurring problems with my shoulders, first frozen left shoulder about 3 years ago, and the same shoulder now has very limited range of motion. My guess is that the back shoulder muscles are pathetically weak and my posture has deteriorated, and PT is really, really slow. Anyone else experience shoulder issues like this? I haven't been able to practice for months, which really hurts when you are trying to teach the Bruch!

  • buttonsmachine
    buttonsmachine Member Posts: 930
    edited June 2020

    Bump.

    How are the musicians doing? Any advice to share?

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