Asians with tri-neg?

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  • defeatbc
    defeatbc Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2008

    Are there any fellow tri-negs out there of Asian decent?

    My mother is a 12 year survivor of bc, but at that time they wern't testing for receptors.

    I feel as if I'm the only one here.

    Luv ya all -- defeatbc

    (btw. I'm Chinese/Vietnamese) 

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    I am Indian and triple neg.

  • defeatbc
    defeatbc Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2008

    Hi formygirls.

    I have lots of Indian friends and coworkers, and yet you are the first person of Indian decent I've come across with bc! 

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    I do not think it very common in Indians. I am the first Indian I know that has bc. However, since being dx I have found another indian friend who was diagnosed and also in the US. That is part of the problem why it took them over a year to take me seriously and the fact that I am young with no history. Things would not have been so bad..well hindsight is 20/20.

  • Believer0711
    Believer0711 Member Posts: 351
    edited April 2008

    Hi ladies,

    I'm Filipino, I'm not triple neg. I just want to say Hi. What treatments are you getting?

    Aurora

  • formygirls
    formygirls Member Posts: 916
    edited April 2008

    Hi Aurora,

    I am getting neo adj chemo. 4 DD AC and 4 DD Taxol. I have so far finished 3 AC tx and get my 4th AC tx tomorrow. Followed by Bilat mast, then 7 weeks rads and break for 6 months before recon. I cannot get hormonals as I am triple neg.

  • PineHouse
    PineHouse Member Posts: 416
    edited April 2008

    Hi defeatbc,

    They say Asians don't get breast cancer.  So, obviously triple negative Asians are even more rare.

    Well, I am a triple negative Asian, plus I have BRCA1 mutation too.  I was 35 when I was first diagnosed 11 years ago.  My sister is 38 and was diagnosed this year (she has the same mutation, we inherited it from dad).

    I don't generally drop in on newly diagnosed group, since I am stage IV and I don't need to freak people out.  But if you don't easily get freaked out, I don't mind sharing any experience that can help you.

    By the way, I live in the South Bay area, near LAX.

  • defeatbc
    defeatbc Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2008

    Formygirls, Aurora, Pinehouse,

    We are definitely the proud few.

    Not only for tri-neg, but for bc in general.

    I've seen recent reports showing that the rate of Asian women getting bc in various parts of the world is growing faster than any other group.  We won't have to feel lonely for long (so sad!).

    One thing to feel good about:  bc survival in Asian women is higher than other major ethnic groups.

  • chumfry
    chumfry Member Posts: 642
    edited May 2008

    One of my triple-neg buddies from my 2005 chemo is Filipino. She doesn't post here much anymore, though. Just thought I'd let you know there was another one out there!

    Seems like I've read something about how BC is typically low in Asians because of their low-fat diet. However, once Asians move to the U.S. and start eating like Americans, their BC rates go up.

    My apologies on behalf of the American way of eating! <grin>

    --CindyMN

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited January 2009

    I am Asian Chinese background and with 1 cm tumor and 1mm micro in one sentinal node.

  • nowheregirl
    nowheregirl Member Posts: 894
    edited January 2009

                  

    I am not Triple negative but I am Japanese with BC. 3.5 years out and counting!

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited January 2009

    hi Timtam

    What was your dx and treatment? I heard BC in China is also rising and how is it in Japan or among Japanese women in the US? People often say we eat healty in Asia thus don't get BC. I tend to eat a bit european food, etc and not sporty, had baby late. Is that reason all? What kind of food and life style do you have and do you have any family history? I don't have any family history for any kind of cancer really. So this is really shocking and I really hope that I can fine soon so that I can live a long life to see my baby girl growing up .....

  • defeatbc
    defeatbc Member Posts: 53
    edited January 2009

    Hi Timtam and newlex.

    Thank you for resurrecting this thread.  I was starting to wonder if there were any more Asian Sisters on this site.  If you're interested, there are more of us on the "Asian Topics" discussion at

    www.youngsurvival.org/community/bulletinboard/

    I think changes in the environment, food, and lifestyle are contributing to the increase in breast cancer as well as other cancers in Asian people.  Cancer was completely unheard of in my family until we moved to the US and adopted a more Western lifestyle.

    Some people may say I'm just misplacing the blame because I'm bitter about having had cancer.  I don't doubt I resent having to come to terms with my mortality, and having to fight for my life to see my son (aged 2) grow up.  However, I truly think there is something "external" and non-genetic going on.  Whatever it is, I hope we find it soon!

    For the meantime, I've been working at returning to my roots:  cooking more traditional Asian vegetable dishes (to my non-Asian husband's delight!), using Chinese herbs and mushrooms, hanging out with my parents more, and enjoying all the wonderful things heritage comes with.

    Hoa (defeatbc)

  • nowheregirl
    nowheregirl Member Posts: 894
    edited January 2009

    My dx was IDC ER/PR postive HER2 negative. My tumor was originally measured 3.5+ cm and one of my lymph nodes was confirmed positive by MRI's. I stared two different neoadjuvant chemo's (12 x weekly Taxol followed by 4 x EC every 4 weeks). By the time I was done with chemo, my tumor was shrunk to less than 0.8cm and that lymph node didn't show up swollen anymore.I had a lumpectomy followedby yet another chemo (12 weekly Taxol again) then did 30 rads. Been on Tamoxifen along with the Lupron shot since February of 2006.

    I am not a medical profession so I could be wrong but I don't really believe that there was anything I could have done to avoid this disease. All kind of people do get BC, regardless of whether they are fat or skinny, whether they are fitness junkies or couch potatoes, whether they are meat eaters or vegetarians. But I guess the amount of soy intake may have something to do with the likelihood of getting BC. I say this because soy is almost always in our diet. You can't cook a thing without soy sauce here in Japan. Also those who are at my age or older eat Miso soup like everyday. Miso is a thick paste made with soy. Though younger people eat less and less soy because their life style has been getting westernized, which I guess is why BC in Japan is skyroketing. I already got BC and my tumor was ER/PR positive. So I don't think eating a lot of soy is good for me anymore. But taking soy looks like a good thing for those who haven't got this disease. I still do eat soy but in moderation.

    As for my family history, nope no one in my family has had BC. But the leading cause of death in Japan is cancer (lung cancer in men and colon cancer in women). So it is almost impossible to not have anyone in your family who didn't die of cancer. My grandfathers on both sides died of stomach cancer, my dad was dx'd with colon cancer a couple of month before I was dx'd (he's still fine). 

    This is just me but I refuse to live like dying. I will eat and do whatever I want. Not being able to eat/do what I want in fear of getting cancer again is just not my style. Even if I could avoid everything that might help me avoid the risk of getting cancer again, it would not make me feel like I was really living. I have come to realize that the stats for myself only would be either 0% or 100%. So if that's the case, then why not live like my risk is 0%? I refuse to be changed by cancer. I want to think I have lived my life just the way I wanted when I die, rather than the way I had to because of cancer, even if that made my life shorter than I wished it to be.

    That being said, I think I feel this way because I am single and have no kids. If I was a mom, I would feel differently. I could sacrifice QOL or anything else to see my kids grow up.

    Hugs,

    Fumi

  • kelty
    kelty Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2009

    Hi, I'm chinese and 35 yrs old.  I'm a triple negative. It seems like it's common for Asians to have triple negative?

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2009

    hi Kelty

    I am also Chinese and 39 years old. Did you have any family history with BC and did you breast feed? I don't have any BC history in the family and only thing I think of is if it is because I gave birth late at 35 and only breast fed a few months (not full but mixed with bottle) . What kind of treatment you get? Let's keep in touch.

  • ipohgirl
    ipohgirl Member Posts: 85
    edited February 2009

    Hi ladies,

    I am chinese, living in HK since 20 years ago. Was diagnosed 19/1 for IDT, Stage IIA. Am 47 years old, with two kids (11and 8) with early menarche and early menopause. Don't drink or smoke, active lifestyle, slim and seldom sick.

    I agree with most of the  - that maybe it's because of the food or pollution.

    Spotted second node on MRI, fine needle, results tommorow which will decide whether I will go for mastect or lumpect. Don't know my receptor status yet. Hope surgery will take place ASAP so Itreatment could be mapped out. Does negative status means it's harder to treat?

    Freaked out the first week. I felt very angry since I am no big meat nor fat eater. My meals have always been healthy and light! Feeling more calm now since I started reading this forum.

    Will keep you gals posted. This journey is the toughest yet that I have taken..............I wish everyone Shen Ti Jian Kang (healthy body).

  • kelty
    kelty Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2009

    Hi, Newalex,

    My mom had BC. My first one was born when I was 32, and second one last year. I did breastfeed but only a little over 4 months for the first one (because my mom was very sick at the time and I went back to China, she passed away shortly after), for the second one, I intended to breastfeed longer however, I had to stop because I was DX with BC myself this time.

    I'm not sure if breastfeeding really affects much in my case(triple negative and family history). I have requested genetic testing for BRAC genes, the results are not back yet.

    I had the mastectomy on 01/16. Will start my Chemo on Feb 9th with DD ACx4 and Taxol x12. then radiation for 5 weeks.  I'm still debating on mastectomy on the other side during the breast reconstruction surgery(probably 1 year from now).

    I've seen many BC patients are quite healthy in general and seldomly get sick. My grandparents have a very unhealthy diet and they are in their 90s.  I decided not to think too much about why this is happening to me. The science is advancing quickly and most of the BC patients I know in US are doing well. I plan to leave the treatment questions to my doctor. For the sake of my little ones, I will try to live a life as normal as possibly.

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2009

    Kelty

    Was your mom the first one had BC? Was she dx at late stage thus she passed away? Your grandparents in their 90s, are they from your Mom's side? You can also PM me.

  • ipohgirl
    ipohgirl Member Posts: 85
    edited February 2009

    Ladies!

    One victory to celebrate today - the second lump is benign, so can opt for lumpect plus excision of second lump on 10/2.

    About breastfeeding, i breasfed my first girl for three months ( at age 36) and boy three years (39 - 41 yearsold). The BC surfarced only in late 2008 when i was 47. had menopause at 45 and early menarche.

    Hm,,,,,,,,,like you others, I do wonder about the effects of breastfeeding on BC. But i still gave teh children the best gift that their mother could give them - breastmilk vs milk powder/cow's milk!

    Will share my receptor status when i get them.

    For those starting chemo, Chinese friends here ahve advocated hoong chou (hung chau) or red dates boiled with lean pork or pork bones to boost white blood cell production. 

  • dalycity
    dalycity Member Posts: 248
    edited February 2009

    Okay, so if I had stayed back in the old country and consumed a lot of soy product, that would increase my BC risk. But if I come to the US and consume western food, then that would also increase my BC risk. What is an Asian girl to do? There's no safe place to be in!

  • defeatbc
    defeatbc Member Posts: 53
    edited February 2009

    Soy is very controversial.  Some studies show it prevents cancer.  Others show it fuels cancer.  Don't know what to make of it -- too confusing.

    There are some Asian products that have potential to keep cancer at bay:

    Shiitake mushrooms, Maitake mushrooms -- both of which are delicious  :)

    Reishi (Ling Zhi) mushroom -- good as tea, or as a soup base.  I like to boil it for 1.5 hours with the red dates ipohgirl described, and drink it as tea.  (not recommended during chemo or radiation)

    "Ban Zhi Lian" with "Bai Hua She She Cao" -- boiled for 1 hour as tea. (not reccomended during chemo or radiation)

    I get Reishi, Ban Zhi Lian, Bai Hua She She Cao at a Chinese herb store.  The other two mushrooms are usually found at Asian grocery stores.  Enjoy.

    If you gals know of any other products, do tell.

     Hoa (defeatbc)

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2009

    Hoa

    Besides mast. and chemo, did you get also radiation? I am concerned if radiation on the mast. site may cause more potential cancers or damages to the lung and skin?

  • kelty
    kelty Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2009

    I started another threads on Yun Zhi.  It's different from Reishi.

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/728849?page=1#idx_14

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2009

    What's Yun Zhi and Reishi?

  • Alex517
    Alex517 Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2009

    I'm half Filipino, inherited the BRCA2 from my dad.  In fact, 4 of my siblings did as well, and 3 of us already had breast cancer, but I was the only one who was triple negative.

    Alex

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited February 2009

    Alex517

    What was your treatment?

  • JerseyMom
    JerseyMom Member Posts: 46
    edited February 2009

    Yet another Asian Triple negative here. Was diagnosed at 35 and I am 37 now (2yrs out). I am of Indian origin living in the USA for past 15yrs.

    -Ren

  • Alex517
    Alex517 Member Posts: 28
    edited February 2009

    I had a lumpectomy 7/07, A/C 4 dense dose, Taxol 10 of 12 (ended 12/19/07) before liver said "enough!", even after reduced dosages. 28 rads/5 boosts (done Mar.9,08).  I opted for a prophylactic bilateral mastectomy and salpingo-oophorectomy (immediate reconstruction with free-TRAM) in Dec.08 because of my BRCA status.

  • MargaretB
    MargaretB Member Posts: 1,305
    edited February 2009

    I don't believe I'm Triple Neg but I am half Japanese (maternal side) and ER positive as well as positive for the BRCA2 gene, which I'm gathering I inherited from my father.  My sister was the first one in the family to create the BC family history.  She was 38, followed by my mother a few years later, who was dx at age 70.  Five years later I was dx at age 49 - two weeks later I turned 50.  My treatment was a bilateral with immediate free tram reconstruction and four tx of DD AC.  I was on tamoxifen for several years and am now on Aromasin.  Last month I had a laproscopic hysterectomy, an oophorectomy (and a bunionectomy), all on the same day.

    Daly City, you only live 15 minutes from me - maybe at some point we can meet up.

    Margaret

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