Starting chemo January 2009?
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Misty - I'll be thinking about you today. Good vibes coming your way. If you don't have any family to help you with your son during the bad days... is it possible you could get a referral for some free caretaking through a cancer support group? Just someone to come and watch over your son during those 5 or 6 days when you are feeling really bad....so that you can rest and take care of yourself? I am so sorry you are dealing with your son's illness in addition to your own....
Jilly - halfway done!! woohoo!!! I never thought about how "white" my head is going to be... ugh... wonder if you can use self tanners on your bald head.. lol. All these weird issues...(hair, boobs)... last night I had a very vivid dream that my husband and I were at a party and some jackass made a flip remark about how "flat" I was..... and I cold-cocked him. LOL.
lisalisa -also at the halfway point!! congrats!! I've called it poison too.. lol...
mama - I think I used Lamaze to get through some constipation.. LOL.. I didn't get a baby either!!
I wish everyone a day of no SE's a a restful sleep tonight ...oh.... I signed up for Chemo Angels and one of mine lives in China! How cool is that?
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Misty, thinking of you and hoping this one is better.
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2nd tx on thursday, have to start the decadron tomorrow cant wait for those sleepless nights, still have this tongue thing. hair is gone. but hey hair will grow back. i kinda dread feeling crappy all weekend again then do it again next week but then i have a week off and get to feel half way good again then do this all again.
hope everyone is well,
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Thank you for sharing . Sorry to hear you had to go through all you did. In about 45 mins i am off for tx#2 and reading your post calmed me. You are right chemo is do-able but sucks. I did okay round one until i picked up a viral infection and mouth sores. I had my blood work appt the day i felt blah and was giving fluids and a antibiotic. ( felt way better after that) The good news is my blood work was really good. The wbc was low but my onc said nothing to worry about. well off and running!
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Thanks for the input on Tx #2...I'll be there on Feb.12. I have been feeling so darn goo this week I dread going back. I am glad to hear it's not cumulative....I can handle the same as Tx#1. Not looking forward to the dull headache....I lived on tylenol last time and drank the coffee anyway....just held my nose to ge the feeling in my mouth!!!! Satly was good for me during 1 also......and spicy....it seemed like the only palce my tastebuds actually had something left!!!
I hope everyone is doing well......
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Hi everyone. I haven't been here much this week. Until today, I have been really weak and not not feeling well at all. My hemoglobin dipped very low after my last treatment. I was fine days 1 through 6. 7 through 11 were extremely difficult. Day 8 I wound up on the kitchen floor after I finally got up enough energy to get off the couch and try to get something to eat. I thought I was fine and then all of a sudden my legs just buckled and I was down. DSO was frantic, ready to call 911. I must have been a sight. Anyway, things got a bit better the last few days. I may need a transfusion when I go Thursday for my next treatment. Thankfully, my son will be here so I'm thinking they may be able to use his blood.
I haven't had a chance to catch up on all the recent posts, but am hoping everyone is doing OK. This whole thing really SUCKS!
I recently (before this last treatment, obviously) had lunch with a good friend who had just finished chemo for lymphoma. She had the right idea. This was a recurrence for her. After the first treatment a few years ago, she treated herself to a Coach bag, which she still had. After this one she upgraded and is now driving a bright red, sporty corvette. She looked sensational. Quite an upgrade, I'd say but deserving none the less. I think we all set our sights on something extemely extravagant for when we finish this thing. What do you think?
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Hi Brenda:
Good to hear from you--sorry about the awful time. Hope you feel better this tx. My brother needed plalets a couple years ago during chemo for throat cancer and he felt so much better with that boost. Scary!
I'm with you--it sucks big time and we do need to look to the end of this. A new car...hmmm. we need one, so that might not count. I'm thinking some sort of trip. Like the Paris month DDlatt is planning. I'd like a week or two with my kids some place relaxing.
Marlenet and misty and anyone else doing chemo today--hope it goes well w/out ses.
My daughter broke down yesterday cuz she got a C on her first High school report card. She is so stressed with what I've been going through--and I know it's real and not an excuse because she is a good student just trying to live up to her older brother and sister's standards. I want her to have a reward!! She and my husband are my angels and I'm crying just thinking of them. Gotta go compose myself.
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Hi January gals,
I go for tx 3 on Friday. I'm trying to psych myself up for it by telling myself the following:
1. I will be one closer to being done! 3 down, 5 to go! 37.50% done!
2. So far the SEs have been very manageable and I don't believe in the cumulative theory
3. The folks at the cancer center make me feel like a million bucks every time I go there. ("You look awesome!" "You have such a good attitude!", etc.) I'm sure they're trained to make us feel good and I fall for it hook, line and sinker.
4. I'm an extremely busy working mom. When do I ever get a chance to put my feet up and read, sleep and be waited on for 2 hours on Friday morning?
Also, I'm looking forward to a better experience with Neu-bastard since I got the Claritin tip from my awesome support board.
I now have one little bald spot in my stubble but the rest seems to hanging on or just thinning very slowly. I take pain relievers only to get rid of the pain caused by my stubble rubbing against my sleep hat.
I hope everyone is ok. Hang in there and feel good!
Diane
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Berkley Kim, feeling so for your daughter. Do her teachers and counselors at school know what is going on?
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I highly encourage the idea of a big reward. My parents died within 20 days of each other 7 years ago, and when we finally sold their house, I went for the car. A silver Audi TT convertible. I believe they smile up there everytime I take it out for a spin. Cars were never a big deal for me, but the wind in my hair(?) and the open air are a great tonic. Go for the car - or something else you will love and never forget! My youngest has a long-term significant relationship with a wonderful guy whose parents live in Grenoble, France. We're planning a big "meet the parents" trip in August.
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today was a fairly normal day. I dropped DS off at preschool and then spent the day at the hospital. I attended a parenting with Cancer workshop and a art therapy workshop. I can not remember the last time I played with tissue paper and glue and cut up magazine pictures. I made a very nice collage. I also gave my doctor my LTD form but not my return to work or LOA form because I am so confused as to what I can/should do regarding returning to work. Every week is different so to just say "can work 20 hours a week, 4 hours a day" does not really cut it. That may work for week one and be too much for week 2, but less than I could do week three.
My taste buds seem to have gone now. My tongue feels like is is covered with a yucky film. I thought that was suppose to happen week 1 or 2 and resolve itself week 3.
I want to have a date night with DH this weekend, a prevalentines day thing since VD will be a few days post chemo #2 and I may not feel very romantic. I hope to have the energy to give DH a bit of TLC. I feel so bad for how much he is carrying these days. He usually carries most of the load around here and now he carries more and the economy just adds to the stress.
I don't have any big thing planned for the end of all this. With a new (very old and drafty) house and a 5 yr old and a shaky economy I don't want or need a big slurge. We splured plenty before we became parents and while the economy was good. But I do think we will take DS to disney next December (about one year post treatment) and throw big party for all our friends on or about my birthday which will be pretty close to one year post Diagnosis. I am not into shoes or bags or jewery or cars. I do however want to live my life a bit differently. More time taken for exercise, for getting together with friends and for some sort of creative outlet. More time appreciating my DH and attending to our marrage.
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Berkley Kim - I can relate to story. While I would hope most teachers and counselors are compassionate and that would help, I can say from experience some are not. Hate to say that since I am a teacher! I also have a daughter in high school and this has been so hard on her. She's a great student, but came home with a failing grade in chemistry because of one zero on a paper. She left a paper at home the day I got sick with bronchitis instead of having chemo. Our household was crazy because we had all so anticipated the chemo only to have it canceled. She called me to bring her paper to her, but I couldn't get it to her before her class started. When she told her teacher(who is just down the hall from me and knows the situation) she told her she wouldn't take it after class had started and when my DD asked if she could call me to not bring it to her - she said NO! Not sure what I've done to this lady, but she got a nice little email from me the next day. The teachers in my dept. thought I was too nice in my email, but it was pretty bitchy for me. Anyway, if you don't take a paper 5 min. late and that's your policy - fine - but have a little compassion and let her save me the trouble. She never replied to my email.
I think for the most part my DD is holding up well. She walks up behind my and acts like she's pulled out a wad of hair and will joke around with me about things, but has also had some really tough moments. It makes me so sad that she has to worry about this cancer stuff.
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Wow Lester! You're basically saying one of your co-workers screwed (not literally of course!) your daughter? That is unbelievable! Unacceptable really for any teacher to do to a good student who is dealing with this in her family. But a CO-WORKER?? My goodness, I can hardly contain myself, I can't imagine what I would have to say to that, that....%$#$
This is difficult on our children-regardless of age. We were just getting into the real swing of planning my oldest daughter's July wedding when I was diagnosed in Oct. I cried a lot over the fact that she was no longer getting the focus she deserved. Of course, she would hear nothing of it but I still feel badly. It should be the best time of her life. Sometimes I have to be reminded that I will be three months out of chemo then which will make the event all the more special.
Hoping it's a good night for all you Jewels.
Ellen
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Kmmd-some of her teachers know because she's told them, and I really need to call her grade-level counselor just so they know.
Lester63-wow, can't believe any teacher (and I'm one too) could be so uncompassionate, hard-headed and hard-hearted! I'm going to try to pay more attention to helping my dd focus and organize her work, which have always been difficulties for her. She's trying out for swim team today, and I hope she's able to do that and get her work done too.
Renrel-I know what you mean about doing the paperwork for going back to work! I just can't seem to do it because I don't know how I'll feel any one day, and I need to get sub coverage. My current sub wants to know which days I will or will not come in, which I completely understand because she wants to line up other jobs. So, I'm still wringing my hands over it. I only have one my AC next week and then start 12 weekly taxols, but I need to get back before tx is over!
Thanks all for listening. kim
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This is my first posting. I had a lumpectomy Oct 31 2008 (Happy Halloween!!). My sentinel node biopsy showed micrometastasis so they suggested chemo then radiation. I only need chemo every 3 weeks for 4 doses.My first chemo tx was Jan 21 with TC. The day after my chemo I had Neulasta. 2 days after Neulasta I developed bone pain mostly in my knees. Since I'm on my feet most of the time at work I was pretty miserable. I then developed abdominal cramping-severe at times- for 3 days. Fortunately no diarrhea. I took Emend ($214 for 2 pills at Walmart) and did not have any nausea or vomiting.
I started with a weird headache these past 2 days with some scalp tenderness. Well today I shampooed my hair and suddenly my hair was everywhere. I cried and then composed myself. There was a previous posting that said she felt sad because now it was outwardly obvious she had something going on inside her body. Like her I looked the same and felt the same but now with my hair lying all over I felt very sad.Oddly enough today I was scheduled to go to my hairdresser to pick up my wig. The wig matches my hair color well. I just have to get used to it and to wearing "my hair" a different way.
I am 52 years old and did not ever imagine I would be going through this. I did learn I have many many friends who care about me. People I would never imagine come up to me and wish me well; friends of friends are sending me cards, I'm on many prayer lists. When I feel sad I just think of all the blessings I have.
Thank you to all you have posted comments. It really helps.
IDC 2.4cm Stage II ER+/PR+ HER2-
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Hi all. Well today my hair is falling out in earnest. So far only my family can tell; my students just think I keep cutting it shorter. They seem the most okay with my wish to wear hats , though unfortunately my fellow teachers are most hesitant to support me on that. I foolishly spent money on a wig I don't like and am now waiting for another one-I hope the new one looks better. I was surprised at how much scalp pain I experienced? ANYONE else?????? It felt like I was laying down on a bunch of pins and needles. I could barely sleep. Now my head just itches and it feels good to pull the hair out. I am strategically covering the bare spots---no I don't swoop my hear around to cover the bald crown yet----and waiting for the wig to show up.
I am 38 hours away from tx #2--glad to get to that day and so happy to be closer to being done.
I wonder how many of you are having radiation too?????????? So far, I am not...wonder what anybody's input is on that...
Bye all my encouraging friends. Have a nice evening
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Jess, I didn't have a lot of scalp pain, but definitely the itching is about to drive me insane. I am having radiation after my chemo ends. I was told that because of the number of lymph nodes I have involved I would need it. 5 weeks, 5 days a week. I can't wait for all of this to end.
Have a good evening and I hope everyone gets some rest tonight.
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Hi Group
jrgolomb ~ Yes, my scalp hurt all the time and I actually started pulling my hair out because it felt better when I was ripping it out and it tingled all the time.
I shaved all my hair off today because I had so many patches from pulling at it and no one will believe this but I love my bald head and when all this is over I have already decided to keep it very short like this my SO other says I look very sexy like this and I agree, I was very surprised to look in the mirror and see a much younger women looking back. With all my stress over the last few years with my sons illness I looked more like 50 then my 38 and now I feel like I look my age, who knows it might be wishful thinking on my part but my spirits are up so I'll live with it. I had my 2nd dose of chemo today and it went very well, not tired yet but I am sure it's the steroids and tomorrow is Nulastu shot I am sure I will be down then but I got a Rx for lortab from the ongc today. I also asked him to look at a lump in my mid chest, he thinks it just a small cyst and says he will keep an eye on it, has anyone else had anything like that an it was nothing? just wondering, once you get CA I think you become paranoid about everything or maybe just me.
Good health to all, may your SE be minimal.
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Hi all,
Well, it seems that a lot of us are at least 1/2 way thru our AC treatments. I
Berkleykim - just saw my onc yesterday and she told me that I would need to be hospitalized for my next 2 treatments. Don't mind since the SEs seemed to be a more controllable.
Pam - Sorry to hear that you're not doing well after your last tx. I'm also only waiting 2 weeks instead of 3 weeks for my next TX. Can't say I haven't had any SEs like you but they haven't been that bad.
Are any of you having any bouts with depression? It seems that just when I get over the worst of the SEs and start feeling a little better, I get depressed. I keep thinking am I only going to feel worst as time goes on, how am I going to get thru 2 more AC txs, will I be so fatigue I won't be able to do anything, etc. Any suggestions on how to get out of this mood? I try to keep in mind that this won't last forever but we all know that wehen you're going thru it, it feels like an eternity. After Chemo, I still have surgery and probably radiation although I think this part of the chemotherapy is probably the hardest.
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When I picked up my free wig from ACS the lady warned me that it would physically hurt to lose my hair. She said it would be worse since my hair is thick. So far no hair is falling out and scalp pain has been on and off.
Today at my art therapy workshop there was a young lady who came proudly bald and she looked wonderful. She had such a great attitude. She said it was just another look. She told me that I had nice eyes and would look wonderful bald and when she noticed my ring she commented that it would be easier because I already had someone in my life. I told her that when she found someone who could see past her hair she would KNOW she had found someone special and that would be pretty special.
I do get depressed now and then. So far I have just kind of acknowledged to myself that I am feeling that way but I have not allowed myself to spend much time acting depressed. I do my guided imagry. I take a walk. I take a nap. I play with my son. That seems to help me get past it but I have a feeling it is going to hit harder and harder.
The worse is when I allow myself to think bad thoughts, like that regardless of all that I am doing the cancer will grow somewhere else in my body and that I am going to have to explain that to my parents, my husband and my son. That it will kill me and that my son is going to cry out for me and I will not be there to comfort him. Before any of this happened I had told someone that one of the things that suprised me about being a mother was how hard it is that I am not allowed to die. Not that I ever wanted to die, but it was some how reassuring to know that I could opt out if life ever got too hard. But once you have a kid it feels like you lose that right. You have to fight tooth and nail to stick around because you owe it to them. And that is hard and sometimes you can resent you kid for it, and that was what I thought before I discovered I had cancer, so what will I think/feel if I really am facing terminal cancer? Scares the bejebers out of me.
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Kim, so sorry to hear about your daughter. Fortunately, my kids are older and it is a bit easier for them to deal. I cannot imagine how difficult it is. A trip would be great. I think that is probably what I will do. We went to Amsterdam and Scotland a couple years ago and I think another trip over there may be nice. Will have to think that one out.
Your daughters teacher sounds like a real b_ _ _ _!!!!! Don't worry, what goes around comes around in due time. She'll get hers. Just hope it is sooner than later.
Hawaii, this past week I had a couple days where all I could do was cry. I think it was a mixture of not feeling well and being bald. I am really having a harder time with that than I thought at first. You're right about it feeling like an eternity. Things will get better. Take care.
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wow! you guys were chatty today LOL!
i finished chemo #3 today. i'm officially 1/2 way done! but, i'll need radiation too, so still a long ways to go. i celebrated today by taking my broken wedding ring to be repaired (it was cut off at the hospital since it was too tight and needed to be off for my 12 hr surgery). so, that is my gift today
Brenda - so scary that you ended up on the kitchen floor. wow! glad your SO was there to help!
Berkeley Kim - I can NOT believe the nerve of that teacher! omg! to not take a paper a few minutes late...and being YOUR colleague. what a biotch!
Mamasarah - great idea on the convertible! i LOVE convertibles and would love to own one! i had ONLY convertibles until my kids came along and I switched to an suv. I'd love to get a little mini cooper or something to have as a 3rd/extra car. i don't feel safe with my kids in it (9 and 5) but would be perfect for errands/tooling around!
Renrel - glad you liked art therapy! i do it too and just LOVE it! so therapeutic!
Hawaii - even though the hospital can be a pain, its probably the safest way to go. you'll have help with SE's when you need it!
I'm exhausted....off to take an ativan and go to bed. I have physical therapy again tomorrow and have to go back to the hospital for a check on my port.
g'night!
Lisa -
Hello Jewels. I have been reading through some of the posts tonight. It' just interesting to see how we all get through it. I am going in for my next AC on Friday and am getting a little scared. I almost wonder if the nausea meds aren't causing my worst syptom which is the feeling that my skull will crack. I am dreading that but plan to get home afterward and stay comfortable. Music will get me through this time. I plan to keep some nice quiet music going the first couple of days. I am putting together info. about my job concerns to keep the wolves at bay for as long as possible. The situation is tricky but I have plenty to work with to manage it....various administrators pulling for me and all the info I need. I can keep myself covered legally if I stay on top of it. I'm pretty sure I will not be renting an apartment in Paris for a month when I am done ; ) but am thinking of ways to take a flight of fancy through all of this. I studied dance for a long time. I think I will choreograph an actual piece, something compete. I can start with some imagery Friday after I get back and can choose my music over the weekend.
Love to all. Life is grand.
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Hi all:
It was Lester63's daughter who had the b of a teacher. My daughter's struggles are more her own (although she definitely butts heads with the teacher who gave her her "bad" grade). Things have calmed down on the home front since the report card was opened yesterday. I'm determined to be more supportive and attentive to her. She's so independent for 14, but has always been "mommy's girl" as the youngest.
Misty, Hawaii, and Renrel--your thoughts and fears really echo mine. I try to let the worries go...reading, walking, being with family and friends really helps, and I although I know there's a better chance than not of my being "disease free" for at least a few years, I still find myself worrying about every little ache and pain and "symptom." My depression comes more right after the tx when I'm wiped out, then seems to ease. I had some good cries earlier in the diagnosis, but now I'm more just worried. When I saw my primary care doc prior to this, I told him how hard it was for me, and he suggested getting some happy pills during chemo if needed. I think for now, I'll keep trying Peter Pan's words: Think of the happiest things...Also, looking at my kids' baby pictures helps.
Lisa--1/2 way--congrats!!! Sounds like you're handling this great.
Year of the Hat--they gave me a double dose of Ativan before my last tx because even though I've never gotten sick during tx, I was ready to throw up this last time just being in the chair! It helped I think. Dance!
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Berkley Kim, well I'm feeling for your daughter. Hope it gets better. It's a wonderful job you teachers do and a huge impact on our kids.
Misty, hear you about the bald. I've been embracing it, the wig is in the same box it came home in, hasn't been touched. I like knowing its there, but doubt it will get much use. Luckily my DH likes the look too. I wonder often these days how I got so lucky to find a man who thinks I look the same post mastectomy and with a velcro head. He's not just saying it, I really look the same to him. Emotionally I get it, my head just thinks, that man needs a new set of glasses. : )
Hawaii: yes my DH and I were just discussing the depression issues this week--we both have our down days thinking about how much has permanently changed for us. More down then depressed really, and trying to work on it. It sounds silly, but I've got the worst singing voice you've ever heard but love to sing. I read an article about a year and a half ago that said people who sing everyday are happier. Since then I've tried to sing in the car on the way to work every day and notice I do feel better those days. Realized last week it had been a long time since I had caught myself singing along with the radio, and I've made a conscious effort to do it for even a few minutes each day. That and exercise are helping me right now.
I did cut the steroids in 1/2 for this treatment and have felt much better. I'm not sure round 2 is easier, or if I've just set myself a new standard of normal and forgotten how good I used to feel.
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Busy board!! Good morning ladies and welcome to Bev56. This is a great place to get info and vent. I have my last TC on Friday - yippee!! but spent 4 hours awake last night worrying about my entire life past, present and future. I have a nagging pain in my wrist and sure it's just arthritis but darn it, it wasn't there before TC#3. I understand everyone's concerns over depression. Some days I just don't want to talk to anyone, cry in the shower or make the effort. Then my SO holds my hands, tears in his eyes and tells me how beautiful I look bald. So I pull it together wrap a pretty scarf around my neck and get out for a walk. But yesterday and today he is travelling and it's so cold here in PA I just want to crawl back into bed. So, have made an appointment for an afternoon pedicure - how about that? and will join my friend for a walk/run later this morning. Have a beautiful day all - keep those SE's at bay and have good thoughts if you can.
Bobbi
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Bev56 - nice to hear from you. Your first tx was a day after mine (mine was 1/20 - also having four rounds of TC... or maybe 6, haven't decided) and yep, I have a weird achiness in my scalp so I guess the hair is starting to go... I've noticed more strands coming out but not clumps or anything. There are so many people in here that it's hard to keep track... but I noticed the above was your first post. Welcome to the January Jewels... when is your next tx? Mine is 2/10. I have a very good feeling tx 2 will actually be better than tx 1. Mainly because I have a head's up what it's like and I won't be as anxious. Losing hair really doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother other people... I haven't liked my hair for years and I'm hoping at the end of this I will get a thicker head of hair. That would be nice. In the meantime, I'm going to have "fun with my wigs" ... like playing dress up as a kid. I hope your tx 2 goes well.... keep posting and keep us in the loop.
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My 1st tx was 1/21 and this morning I noticed a sore spot on my scalp. So I tugged on some hair and my hair is officially starting to come out. Just multiple strands at a time, not big clumps or anything yet but it is started and I is bothering more than I thought it would. In part is is just wrong to have to deal with this during these few really good days at the end of the cycle. I was pretty much fine yesterday, though I wore a face mask all day to be safe and today I was strong enough to shovel the snow and let DH sleep in. I was planning a very productive day, which I may still have but I also feel sad and want to just curl up and be depressed and sad about my hair today.
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I posted on my carepages that, since chemo is doing worse to the cancer cells than to me, bald cancer cells dying of shame. Cancer cells have to be so shallow that they would die of shame.
My scalp is now getting sore all over. It remindes me of the feeling my scalp would get if my hair was pulled tight in a pony tail or something for a long time and then I tried to get it to go in a different direction then it had been pulled. I guess I should get my hair cut real short now. And where do you buy a hair net?
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hawaii-depression here too, and i am like you i still have to get through this and then have surgery and 33 radiation tx.
those of you losing you hair, thoughts to you mine started last week so i went ahead and buzzed it friday, i think i bothered my hubby more than me. friend say it is cute, i just need a pair of big dangly earings and i'm in businesss.
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