Starting Chemo February 2009?
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Hey there - can I join too?
I had my first round on 16th Jan, and am due for my second this Friday. I am in Canada and am doing FEC-T. 6 rounds.
My first round was fine, I was sick as anything the afternoon after my infusion. They said "you might feel a little nauseous after dinner tonight" and by 3:00pm I was throwing up. I am hoping I can try a different Med this week. Other than that i felt a bit off for the first week, but more or less OK since. Cut my hair off yesterday - it was quite long and had started to come out in handfuls.
For those about to do their first round, really, it isn't that bad at all. A little surreal, but not terrible. and the nurses and everyone really make it easy for you. Well, as easy as possible.
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Otter! Love your info as always. Especially when it comes with your particular way of phrasing things. You always make me smile. And, as usual, you're quite correct. (I'm on TC folks, so please note I'm NOT on Adriamycin) No nausea. Not even the slightest queeze. Auntie A has kept me on phenegren pre-emptively, but I skipped it today and I'm fine. No real appetite, but no discomfort either.
Hip pain I'm attributing to the Neulasta, and maybe the PMS too. (Thanx chemogods, nice touch!) Other than that, I'm tired, but fine. Rinsing the mouth a lot, drinking tons of water, eating what I can, which is lots of fruit right now. Had a nice walk around the yard today (big yard) while talking to various family members.
I hope I'm over the hump tomorrow, but have duly noted your worst days. Thanx for the heads up. We all react differently, but it's a real gift to be able to share with someone who's already survived it.
Dinner and more napping for me.
I'll catch up the list ASAP. Welcome to all of you new faces! I'll update my avatar with my pixie on Tuesday, next stop: "Bald, bald as a ping-pong ball bald" as my daughter has taken to saying. (To everyone. Everywhere. For any reason.)
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Hi there! I'm starting chemo on Feb. 27th. So glad to find this site. I'm petrified, don't know anyone around here who's going through this. Happy to have found all of you and glad for the company. Wish you all the best as we go through this!
ndweiss
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Apple - I see you are on Taxol and Avastin - is that why you got to keep your hair for 6 weeks? MicheleS and I are on the same chemo schedule I believe (Adriamycin/Cytoxin and then Taxol.
I am now wondering if I am jumping the gun by planning on shaving my head after my first treatment or if I should wait. I just hate the idea of my hair coming out in clumps and I was certain that no matter what my hair would come out based on the chemo drugs I am getting.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Jancie, I read the May 2008 chemo thread start to finish while I was waiting for some test results. (I'm sure you know the feeling, haha!) Adriamycin/Cytoxin regimens tend to start about day 14 from everything I have read.
Here's a decent link on what to expect by drug.
I have been cutting several inches from my hair for weeks now. On Tuesday I will be getting my "pixie." My 14 day (estimate) is on my second treatment. If my hair is falling out by then, I'll go ahead and have it shaved that night. It'll be part of the birthday celebration, and it looks like the Decadron will probably have me up for it.
Everyone has to be comfortable with their own plan, but for me, taking control and planning it "my way" has been somewhat empowering. I'm not afraid of it anymore. I hope, in some way that helps.
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Cheri, do you also live in the Albany, NY area? I see Bethie1 does as do I . I am having my port put in on Tues. at St. Peters and expect to start chemo later in the week. Still deciding if I'm going to go on the clinical research study. If so it will be decided whether I will be treated with TAC or just TC.
To all I just want to share some advice that I found helpful. A great friend of mine sent me some CDs of relaxation and guided visualization that are specific to cancer; surgery, chemo, and radiation. Bernie Siegel is an MD, a surgeon who specializes in cancer and this is his niche. He talks about exceptional cancer patients, those who do so well. It's about the mind-body connection. One of the things he said that I found particularly meaningful was that it's important how we view things. If we call the chemo poison as I was doing then we are really approaching it as our enemy. If, on the other hand, we look at it as an elixir that will cure us and make us better we welcome it as something helpful and are more likely to meet with positive results. It sounds like good sense to me. My best to all. Suzanne
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Hi again - just a word on the hair, and when to cut it! I am doing FEC at the moment, so it will be different timing if you are on ACT. But, I knew it was time for the hair to go, and you probably will too. My first chemo was on Friday 16th, by the 27th (12 days later) it started getting very "loose", and one or two strands would fall out when I ran my fingers through it. By last Friday it was falling out in handfuls! My husband buzzed in on Saturday.
To tell you the truth, the thought of it was worse that the reality, and it is actually quite freeing to know I don't need to be worrying about it any more. And I don't look nearly as bad as i thought I might - I have very nice (lying!) friends, who have compared me to Demi Moore in her GI Jane times.
Suzanne, I love your words of wisdom, I think there is something in the power of the mind. I have been trying myself to view Chemo as a gift - we really are so lucky to have it there. Right before my first infusion I read a post here by someone who was having it Neo-adjunctively (sp?) and after her 3rd treatment they couldn't even find her Tumor. Made me feel very hopeful.
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First of all Jancie, I would strongly urge you not to shave your hair too soon. it takes a long time for it to grow back.. mine didn't start to come in until at least 6 weeks after my chemo ended, and it came in very slowly. It's been five months and I barely have short hair and I'm ready to lose some of what little i have.
As to my hair not falling out for 6 weeks.
I took Adriamycin/Cytoxin the first time.. I think.. I know it was called the Red Devil. It really did take 6 weeks for the hair to ALL fall out. I had a thick stubble which I actually had to shave like every 3 days so it would be smooth. .. it eventually was bald, altho it took a whole couple months. i really wish I had retained the illusion, at least, of some hair. This time i am doing small doses of Taxol.. My hair is so short anyway, it would be foolish to shave it .. I am going to wait and see.. the onc. said I would experience thinning.
i started out with a 5.5 tumor. after chemo - 8 heavy duty rounds, it had shrunk remarkably and my surgery pathology measure it at 2.1 cm. Chemo really does work and we are so fortunate that they can administer with relatively little hardship for the patient.
I let my kids cut my hair.. i had a chin length bob, and we cut it about 10 times over the course of 2 weeks. they had a blast. we had a blast. my boys shaved their hair, my girl let me trim hers and my hair looked awful! I finally went to my beautician to get a short boy cut which looked ABSOLUTELY awesome..
why I agreed to let my kids give me a mohawk less than a week later, I don't know.. I guess that is the reason i ended up shaving it too soon. One cannot sport a mohawk and retain any sense of propriety, especially when one is a church organist.
Webwriter.. your short hair looks great.. here's a pic of my boy cut. I wish i had taken one of the mohawk, just for prosperity.. my daughter took one, but I can't find the pic in her files.
Dx 5/10/2008, IDC, 5cm, Stage IIIc, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER+ -
Ok on Day 5 of Taxotere and I think it's safe to say I overdid it yesterday, Day 4. I felt so remarkably great, did a ton of things in the house and outside, made a few entrees for the week and baked ... and I am not even into baking! I'm assuming the steroids gave me such a jolt taking them for 5 days, I stopped yesterday morning cause I was planning on going into work this morning... nope didn't make it. I am now completely WIPED OUT! Didn't sleep again last nite and even took 2 tylenol pm's. When do the steroids wear off?? and are they really necessary for a whoel 3 days following treatment?!?
I just hope this chemo stuff is working after the havoc it plays on our bodies. I too started out with a large tumor... but they could not put an exact measurement on it. Clinically measured at 6-8cm+, then surgical pathology read 1.8cm. So yeah if it was that big chemo is a great thing. Just hope it's gonna kill off anything that is lingering on.
Going to stay home in bed today and rest. Even though I still can't sleep!
Feel good everyone.
Sue
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Terri42, wishing you the best today!
Apple! I love your short cut! Very similar to my upcoming pixie. You must, however, find the mohawk!
Susan13, yup. Me too. Let's not do that anymore!
I gotta make it to PT for my shoulder today, but other than that, nada. I'm all in.
I'm still draggin' but I think I got the list updated. Please let me know if I missed you or messed you up. The chemo brain has set it for sure this time. (Okay, I did practice for a month or so first, ha!)
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Kerry Mac and February Furies
I am January Jewels girl, and haven yet to lose my hair-- I am three days away from tx #2. I am on FEC. My scalp is itchy and hurts when I lay down. I suspect it will begin to fall out soon. I am interested if anybody else is on FEC besides Kerry? I will also be on Taxotere tx#4. I am interested in ses from this group as well for the Taxotere.
Okay all...hope you have a good day.
Jess
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Jess,
I just started Taxotere and it wasn't too bad at all... until I overdid it. Onc. told me no matter how good I felt to "REST"... I didn't listen, and now I'm paying for it! I'm ok when I'm laying in bed, even though I am NOT sleeping, but the minute I get up and do something... even typing on the computer, I get exhausted.
Sue
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Hey Jess - I start Taxatore for tx#4 too - I've got my second FEC on Friday. The last time I threw up afterwards, am hoping I do better this time. Are you in Canada? Think FEC-T is more common here.
I have heard Taxatore is not as hard on the stomach, but good to get your input Sue with the tiredness. i have two little kids, so I hope it doesn't wallop me too hard.
I'm loving all the short hair photos - I have always had long hair, and I am suprised that short hair doesn't look so bad on me. I was always being mistaken for a boy when I was growing up, now I really am starting to look like one, with my short hair and my uniboob!! Actually, horrifying, I am starting to look like my Dad. My sister said as long as I didn't start acting like him, we would be OK. LOL!
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KerryMac,
I have a 2 year old, and yeah it's a bit rough going thru chemo-tiredness with her, but we have to be mom's still so we get thru it as best we can. I think playing with her even when I don't feel good gives me a bit of a lift and cheers me up.
I think I got a little dehydrated since last nite, I have been trying to pound down the water since I talked to my doc's office this morning and my head is finally feeling like it's coming out of the vice! Next tx#2 I am definitely taking it much easier on myself, even if I feel "invincible"! Oh and no nausea to speak of, I didnt' even need my Zofran this time, with the AC I did. I know what you mean on the short hair... I look like my brother's twin
Sue
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Susan:
Your doing great. I use, and your gonna laugh Apple Flavored PEDI LITE from the baby section. It has a low amount of sugar and puts the electrolytes back in your system. When I was in college I used to drink Pedi Lyte and take aspirin and my hang over went POOF.
Be careful when you skip that zofran... I did that thinking that I didn't need it anymore and spent the worst night of my life with a trash bag by my bedside. Better to play it safe on that one.
Your looking good girl... you could give Demi Moore in GI Jane a run for the money!
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Well....... it's official! I start 4x TC on February 18 followed by rads. My chemo class will be this Thursday. I had my ovaries removed on January 13 and my lumpectomy/SNB/port placement on January 23.
Like others, I will be attempting to work full-time during chemo. Unfortunately, January - April is my very busiest time of the year.
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Hey CanItBeTrue,
I'll try the pedialite, I happen to have some in my cabinet for my daughter. I also drank gatorade during my tx, that seemed to work pretty good.
Thanks for the hair compliment... I just put on my wig for the first time in 5 days and it just doesn't feel right... I cannot wait to go without it for good!
Sue
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Hi, Furies ~
Just checking in to say "hi" and hope everyone's doing well.Husband and I went to a baton competition yesterday; he said, "Look, we are actually going somewhere that is NOT medically related!" It seems forever since we did anything "normal" like that!
I haven't decided anything about my hair except that I did cut off a few inches myself. It was bra-length and a bit hard to handle anyway; now I can wash and towel-dry easier with basically one arm. (I'm still over-protecting my port arm; it makes me rather squeamish!!)
Hugs to all,
Artemis -
Michele,
I just got my port today and it is more painful than I expected and it was crappy to have another procedure. I'm hoping to find a position to sleep in. I have a wedge pillow that I slept on after surgery instead of a recliner so I'm diggin that out just so I don't make the mistake of rolling over on my side while I'm (hopefully) asleep.
Hope it gets better soon!
Tommorrow I have a wig selection appointment and that'll be a good distraction.
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Webwriter: You can update mine....I start chemo tomorrow . So scared right now. I decided no trial for me, so I will have ACx4, Taxol x 4, dd. Thanks.
I haven't decided what to do about my hair yet. I don't want the wig to be too obvious, and right now my hair is long, as is my wig. If I cut it now, then it would seem strange to wear a long wig. I don't think my boss wants my students to know anything, so I guess I'll just keep it long, then go right to the wig. My boss would probably have a heart attack if I wore just a scarf or hat without the wig, so I'll have to get used to it. I only work 2 hours at a time, so that will help.
Judy
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Judy... welcome! <=== that sounds a little weird, doesn't it? I guess I have decided to get my hair cut short by my hairstylist of 25 years into a short cut she and I like. Then, I figure I'll go wig shopping. Lastly, I'm planning on buzzing it as soon as my hair starts thinning.
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Well I'm joining the ranks of many of you and getting my port put in tomorrow. I have to admit I am surprised to hear that it has been so bothersome to have. I was thinking after the lumpectomy it shouldn't be too bad. Well, I'll know.soon enough. I kind of feel like I'm on a diving board waiting my turn to jump, I've been following so many of you and gulp, now it's my turn. It's been great reading so many of peoples' experiences. Thanks for all the sharing, it does make a difference. Best to all. Suzanne
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gcpommen, I hear you about being scared, don't you think that it would be unusual if you weren't scared? Doesn't make it easier though does it? I don't start until next week, but had a break down earlier today...this dang cancer stuff is sometimes so scarry! Your in my prayers and thoughts and hope you have a good night sleep!
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suzmarks - after the initial port procedure and a couple days of a bit of discomfort, I think you will be pleasantly surprised that your port will not be a problem. I notice it during a shower because you can feel it (sort of like an inverted pop bottle top), but otherwise I truly don't know it's there. And for bloodwork, I have had them access it with and without lidocaine (and I am such a wimp when it comes to being poked because I have had such bad veins over the years). It's a pinch and that's it; but if you prefer to feel nothing, ask for a prescription for lidocaine and use it a half hour before your appt (cover it with saran wrap to keep your clothes from wiping it off). If it didn't have to be flushed regularly, I would probably leave mine in forever for blood draws!
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Suzanne~ I had my port on fri and am now feeling better. It is still uncomfortable but not too bad.
Artemis~ Did you have the dreaded "AC" last week? Pls tell us about it... I'm getting nervous.
Brenny~ I got a script for the lidocaine cream... I'm sooo sick of being poked that I figured that it would be worth it.
DoubleMammyWhammy~ Is your port feeling better today? Good luck Thurs. I'll be thinking of you!!
Apple and Webbie~ Ya'll are both so cute with your short hair!! I wimped out and got a bob. However, it matched the wig I bought...
Judy~ Good luck today. I go Thurs for the same cocktail (well + Avastin which isn't supposed to make me feel any worse). Pls post when you feel up tp it.
I know I'm missing people but I'm reading the thread and praying for you all everyday. I hate that ya'll are here with me but I find it comforting too...
As for the crying jags and emotional baggage... Mine has been worse lately. I still have this "it's not fair" mentality that is not helping me to move forward. <sigh>
Michele
PS. I read a great book called "Crazy, sexy cancer tips" ; would HIGHLY recc it for a good dose of "living life".
Another tip: for some retail therapy that is actually useful:
www.headcovers.com
This site has some very cute stuff. Not "grannyish" at all. Personally, I love the oversized woodblocked cotton scarves. Very cute. There are also cute batik prints and other "pre tied" scarves for people like me who are accessory-challenged. Enjoy!!!
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Hi everyone! Looks like I am joining as well, will be starting chemo "within 2 weeks" per my onc, though I do not know the regimen yet. He is evaluating my data to see if I qualify for a study, and should be contacting me with info this week. It is terrifying, but at the same time I am ready to get started and get it over with!
I have been reading along since the day this blog started, since I knew I would most likely be joining you all in February. I have prayed for all of you, and I hope those who have started are doing well, and that those on the launch pad ready for take off are hanging in there!
One question about the port (well really 2 ?'s). Do any of you take Coumadin for it, and what happens if it is not flushed within a month? I have had mine since 1/13/09, and nothing has been done to it, maintenance-wise. It feels ok, but has been getting harder in the last few days. My onc keeps saying that I need to be on Coumadin, yet he has yet to write a script for it. Any others in this boat?
Thanks, and thanks for being a life line in all of this!
Janine
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Good luck to anyone starting this week - I'm due for #2 on Friday.
It really isn't that bad, the first week I felt "off", but certainly functional! We can do this!!
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i'm feeling pretty good this morning (5 days after the 1st chemo).. I haven't felt bad, just not quite right. my sinuses are surprisingly clear for some reason.
One good thing I've learned is how to tie a square knot behind my head without a mirror.
My port has been wonderful.. However, I have a very skinny torso (especially now), and it protrudes noticeably. I was showering and felt this lump near my collar bone and FREAKED..
OMG, I thought. Then I remembered it was a port.
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Mornin' Furies!
So here's a tip from the bottom of the "bucket" --take your meds, even if you feel okay! I stopped meds yesterday because other than tired, I've been doing just fine. Five days out, surely the worst is over, right? I started puking about 8:00 last night and haven't stopped. This is not your normal puking folks. This is Chemo Puke. Not nice. Don't do it. Take your meds.
I've got a "burnt" sensation at the top of my tongue and zero appetite. (Good thing, since not much is staying put.) I'm still pounding liquids and rinsing a lot. Seems to work.
Other than that, nothing new to report on day six.
gcpommom, good luck today. You'll do just fine. The nerves are the worst part. Honest.
suzmarks, best wishes with the port. The reports seem to be good, so hang tough. Tho I'm doing veins as long as possible, I have a special affinity for you brave port gals since I chickened out.
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Suzmarks -- first, welcome. Second, my port (placed at the same time as my lumpectomy/SNB surgery) is a bit uncomfortable, BUT it is not painful at all.
Brenny -- Thanks for the tip on the lidocaine! I didn't know that was an option.
Michele S - I'll look into the book you mentioned. I have read I'd Rather Do Chemo than Clean out the Garage: Choosing Laughter Over Tears and heard the author speak at a luncheon last Friday. It was a good read for me personally.
Jdeking - Hey! I believe we have "spoken" before. Welcome. I had my port put in on January 23. My first chemo is February 18... I haven't been told anything about having my port cleaned out...
KerryMac - I agree!
Apple - Thanks for the chuckle this morning. I can see myself doing the same thing!
Webwriter - Whew! Hope you're feeling better today... and, thanks for the updates!
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