Starting Chemo February 2009?

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  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2009

    they gave me steroids in my port.. I've been buzzing since yesterday.. very energetic and warm.. I'd much prefer the pills to administer in smaller dozes (and stash.. ha ha).

    to Webwriter -"(Apple gets creative energy out of Decadron. I just get the energy. No creative in it at all, obviously! She also doesn't get nausea the way I do. I want to know the NAME of her chemogod and I think I want his phone number too!)  "

    I haven't been nauseous for about 20 years.  never felt ill when pregnant. .. when I was a kid I threw up, but haven't since a bout of food poisoning in my 30s.  i don't eat AT ALL if I'm feeling the least bit queazy.  I wish I could get my kids to do that.  they'll have a flu and insist on eating breakfast.. duh..  one can always eat later.

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited January 2009

    I had 8 mg in pill form the night before and the morning of treatment, then more in my IV port... then I have to take 4 mg's twice a day until Sunday!  I'm buzzing myself, and I stayed home from work today to "rest".  yeah... just hung up some new wall hangings, and started cleaning out my closet!  Oh boy.........

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited January 2009

    I forgot my antinausea pill a couple of hours ago. Forgot my 1/2 pain pill too. Got my Claritin this morning.  So far, no pain from the Neulasta shot. No nausea. Not really hungry, but no trouble eating light. Had an apple so far today, and still lots of water. Waiting on the "wall..."  No, I do not mean Pink Floyd's version.

  • Grace4me
    Grace4me Member Posts: 47
    edited January 2009

    Hi all!  Next week is getting closer and closer.  Yesterday I had to go back to the PS and he took a little fluid off one side.....it is slowly going down. My PS said that when he starts the fills on Monday that it will leave less room for the fluid to build up and will slow it down more. He also said that there is nothing that I can do to make the fluid lessen or increase, it just happens.

    I went to the Look Good, Feel Better class and it was VERY Fun.  She did my make up for my interview later that same day. I was showed how to make a turban out of an old t-shirt and how to create eyebrows, pretty cool.  And to top it off, I do think I got the job!!  They know about my treatments but they said that my work and experience are worth more. (ain't God good).  I have bought a couple of wigs, some turbans and partial wigs and now I have the make up, so hopefully the docs will give me enough drugs so that I can feel as good as I will look....sounds like those steroids will help a lot! 

    My onc said that he will be giving my Neulesta shots since I will be trying to work through treatments.  What does the Clariten D do to help with the pain? Well I hope all of you that can get into one of those classes do so, they also said that the American Cancer Society will give anyone turbans,wigs and scarfs if you need them. Funny I never knew that I was vain until this.

    I am praying daily for all of you and I feel Blessed to be getting to know you all even if it is because of this circumstance.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited January 2009

    I was thinking of signing up for the Look Good Feel Good class next Tuesday.  It is held at the hospital I am going to on the 2nd Tuesday of every month but I am wondering if I should wait until I lose my eyebrows, etc. before I go or should I go ahead and attend the class now?  Any suggestions on this?

    I heard that they do give away free wigs to those people that need them but I went ahead and ordered a wig for a wig shop that is here locally.  I can afford to buy a wig so I didn't want to take a free one because someone might not be able to buy their own.

    I am laughing because I never considered myself to be vain, I walk around without make up all of the time and look like a farm girl more than a city girl by choice but I hate the fact that I will lose all of my hair so I guess I am more vain than I thought I was.

    It seems like Feb 11th will never get here!  I want to get my chemo started now - I know that sounds odd but I feel like I am sitting around not doing a darn thing right now and I am ready to fight this beast!

  • Bethie1
    Bethie1 Member Posts: 393
    edited January 2009

    I start chemo Feb 4.  Had a mast after a failed lump with several nodes taken!!! I'm single 38, and live with my boyfriend!

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2009

    i sure wish I liked wigs. i feel like a boy in drag or something.

    Bethie - my sister in law's name is Bethie.  she is a 16 year survivor.

  • Nancyb7912
    Nancyb7912 Member Posts: 84
    edited January 2009

    Good evening all. I'm checking in for February chemo. This has been a process that has been nothing short of painful. Initial pathology report had me as HER2 negative, so we were all set for radiation and hormone therapy. Then, onco recommended the Oncotype test that came back on Monday. Turns out I was HER2 positive. First report had a "mistake". I can't believe they did this!!

    So, chemo education was this morning and I expect port placement next Friday with first treatment immediately after. I will be in the AC regimen X4, followed by  Tx12. Herceptin for a year.

    There are so many things to do. I'm not known for lists, but may be forced. Anxiety is so high I just can't think.  I will need to work throughout treatment so the plan is Thursday chemo - I will have the weekend to recover for Monday work. At least, it looks good in print... Went wig shopping today and getting a new 'do tomorrow that will better match the wig I've selected. I have a friend who lost her hair (myelofibrosis and stem cell transplant) and refused to wear a wig. Not me. I'm a GRITS (TN born and raised, now living near DC) and not a day goes by without the electric curlers and makeup coming out. May have to come up with a fall back in summer, but will cross that bridge when I come to it.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2009

    gosh Nancy.. I hate to say welcome -  but welcome to February chemo.

    you'll get lots of support.

  • suzmarks
    suzmarks Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2009

    It's 2:13 AM and I've been reading your Feb. group entries for the last half hour or so. I'm up to Jan. 28. I'll continue reading later in the day after I get some shut-eye. I am having my port put in on Tues., Feb. 2. I have to decide which chemo cocktail I want. I returned from a visit to Sloan-Kettering in NYC yesterday after getting a second opinion. I'm armed with more info but still unsure. I'm hesitant to take the Adriamyicin in TAC. I may opt for just TC. I'm a candidate for the clinical research study they are doing which would randomly assign me to either TAC treatment or TC. I will make my decision this weekend. Not sure how to post my diagnosis but will try to put it at the bottom of this message. Thanks for all your sharing, it's informative and supportive. suzanne from Albany, NY - had a lumpectomy on Dec. 3

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    DX 10/31/08  IDC, 2 cm, stage IIb. grade 3, 1/16 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-

  • csbsk123
    csbsk123 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2009

    I thought I would join the January group, but I have my first treatment February 4th and they are way ahead of me.  I am a Taxtere/Cytoxan/Herceptin every three weeks for 4 weeks as part of a clinical trial.  I had a bilateral mastectomy December 3rd and found out that one breast was nonaggressive and the other very aggressive.  All nodes were negative, have gone through reconstruction and am fully expanded but will have to wait for implants until after chemo.  It is nice to go through this with a group in the same boat.

  • csbsk123
    csbsk123 Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2009

    Bethie1

    Hi my name is Cheri.  I am having my treatments at AMC starting wednesday.  Just wondered if you were there or at a different hospital.  Good luck wednesday and I'll be thinking about you. 

  • DoubleMammyWhammy
    DoubleMammyWhammy Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2009

    Hi Marlomom,

    I spoke to a long lost friend who went through breast cancer 6 years ago and was such an inspiration.  We were in parallel lines at parent-teacher conferences and we looked at each other at the same time and gave out a huge whoop.  Her being there was heaven-sent: not only did we have a ton of time to wait in line but she was so positive about the treatment side-effects of AC.  She said with the anti-nausea meds she was never nauseated, but recommended taking something to prevent constipation which (other than hair loss) was her only major side effect.  I'm so hoping we handle this as well. She was in her late 30's and did NOT go into menopause either.  I'm 39 and  I hope WE all have the best experience  especially for you finishing PTA school--my hubby is a PT btw. I'm praying you will have a great match for your clinicals and expect your advisors to be very understanding.  Glad to hear you are stubborn.  I'm working full-time and coaching.  Friend recommended chemo on Wednesday or Thursday and sleep all weekend then ready to go Monday.

    Our kids are the same age--14 & 11 year old boy.  How are they handling things?  My older son is more driven in school, but we've had to keep on the younger to keep him from sliding.  Their attitudes have been great.

    Best wishes to all!

  • Carol0371
    Carol0371 Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2009

    Morning,I'm feeling more alert today.Laid around & slept most of yesterday,then slept all night.Want to go to the library today & maybe walk,we'll see.I haven't had any problem this time with eating.Last time I did chemo I lost 6 lbs. in the first week thencraved carbs all time so unfortunately lbs did't stay off.I'm eating less then usual[a good thing] trying to make sure to eat protein & lots of fruit.Gotta go,check in later.

  • Terri42
    Terri42 Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2009

    Hi ladies!  For those of you getting a port - I had mine placed yesterday.  I think overall the worst part of the whole thing was just having to have another procedure done (I didn't really have a choice with this one - I'm a very bad stick so in the long run this is a good thing - at least that's what I keep telling myself!) I now have so much hardware in me I feel like my chest is made of iron.  I'm four weeks out of double mastectomy surgery with expanders and I'm still sore from that so why not keep it coming (seems to be the cancer fighting motto)....

    Anyway  - I was placed under sedation (not quite all the way out of it but I did doze off some) - they placed a drape over me so you can't see much plus you have your head turned to one side anyway - this made me a little claustrophobic but once the sedative was administered I didn't care any more.  You may feel some pushing on your upper chest but no pain.  Afterward - once all of the administered drugs wore off - I was sore - took extra strength Tylenol for pain and used an ice pack to reduce bruising.  This morning I was still sore (took more Tylenol) and as the day goes on I'm getting used to the feeling of it all - my neck is sore and I get a little wigged out thinking about a catheter in my artery but I am getting used to it or getting better at ignoring it!

    Another thing over with!  You know as I was getting teary eyed feeling sorry for myself laying on that darn operating table again - I thought about kids with cancer and figured I'd rather it be me laying there - actually I wish it wasn't anyone laying there but you know what I mean...Kiss

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited January 2009

    Hey all,

    On day 3 of Taxotere and so far not too bad.  I don't by any means have the energy I had yesterday... I did some serious "spring cleaning" after those steroids.  Today just feel like lounging out. No nausea as I'm on Emend and Zofran until tomorrow, but I'm getingt cravings for junk food... how unfair is that?!?  Had some minor achy body twinges last nite and this morning but nothing that tylenol ain't taken away.  Hang in there ladies, you can all do this!

    Sue

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2009

    Hi everyone,

    I got my port yesterday and I am sooooo sore.  Plus, I've been throwing up all day so far.  I'm not running a fever or anything to suggest inf but I feel terrible...  <sigh>

     Terri, I'm glad yours went smoothly.

    Michele

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2009

    a funny port story, that a few of you might have read before.

    For the port installation I had a twilite sleep ANESTHESIA.   While under, I heard the surgeon and anesthesiologist talking.

    "OMGOSH.. look at her torso... she has the tiniest torso but really big hips.. what a cute girl.  too bad her tumor is so big.  hope she makes it."

    I didn't say anything at the time but a couple months later when I went in for a biopsy with the same surgeon and anesthesiologist, I told them I had heard their conversation and repeated it for them.. they were shamefaced.  I woke up and they gave me an envelope with an apology for their unprofessional behavior and gift certificates to Panera Bread.

    I wasn't mad at them.. just sobered I guess.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited February 2009

    apple, you might want to edit this phrase:

    "... I had a twilite sleep euthanasia."

    otter 

    [Edited to note the change in apple's procedure.] 

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited January 2009

    Good Afternoon ALL!

    STILL have catching up to do and the thread has expanded again! I can't believe the sheer numbers that come through here. I'm so sad there are so many, but so glad there are enough of us to really make an impact. It amazes me continually how this place reaches so many and helps so much.

    So, I think I found the wall. Might have been self created. I was pretty much myself all day yesterday. No more Decadron Dingies, a little odd, but mostly me, until I took my 2nd sleeping pill. Auntie A's orders are to take them IN BED. (She knows me too well) The next thing I knew it was noonish today! Probably the best 18 hour nap I ever had! 

    I'm a little groggy. Gotta get some water down and something light to eat. DH has a favorite ready: sauted plantains & sweet potatoes w/maple walnut sauce! I don't have much of an appetite, but no nausea. If I can't eat platains tho, something is just WRONG, haha!

    Still drinking water by the gallon. All in all, this just isn't as bad as I expected.

    Hope you all are faring as well!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    so evidently today is my day to have My Nervous Breakdown. the $1600 hospital bill and the pharmacy saying that one of my scripts is $400+ needs preauthorization sure as hell didn't help. i'm sure both are just silly snafus, but all of a sudden i feel like i'm never gonna be able to jump thru all the insurance hoops much less actually sit down in that chair on wednesday morning.

    luckily i have the house to myself right now. i'm a complete basketcase. i can't remember the last time i cried this hard.

    i'm usually not so self-absorbed. honest.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited January 2009

    Web, you might not have any nausea on TC.  I didn't.  That would be very good, right?

    The worst "nausea" I had was some mild to moderate "queasiness" the day after each infusion.  My onco asked about that specifically--she said, "Was it actual nausea, or was it queasiness?".  I didn't feel like throwing up--I just felt a bit yucky in the stomach and kind of dizzy; so I interpreted that as queasiness, and she agreed.

    I took Phenergan once or twice on those days, and it helped.  I never was on any of the high-octane anti-nausea meds, like Kytril or Zofran or Emend, except for the Zofran I was given in my i.v. as a pre-med. 

    TC is not classified as a "highly emetogenic" chemo regimen.  Cytoxan, at the dose it's given when combined with TC, is listed as having "level 3" (moderate) risk for emesis.  That's on a scale of 1 through 4, with 4 being worst.  Taxotere is only "level 2" (low risk).  Here's the PubMed citation for that info, which is from a 2008 paper in New England Journal of Medicine:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18525044?dopt=Abstract

    Another source of information is the NCCN (National Comprehensive Cancer Network) Clinical Practice Guidelines for nausea prevention, which were updated just this month (January 2009): http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/f_guidelines.asp

    Of course, some women have lots more trouble with chemo-induced nausea than others.

    otter 

  • Brenny
    Brenny Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2009

    Michele S -

      I too was nauseous after my port - it was the twilight drug they gave me.  The nurse said be sure and tell them anytime in the future that it makes me nauseous and they can include something in it to avoid it -- of course, that came too late to get me through two days of throwing up!  Luckily the chemo did not make me nauseous at all.

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited February 2009

    It's good to hear that so many of you are doing so well after your tx's.  I start on Tuesday, and have been picturing the worst; with the way my luck's been going lately, I figure I'll be the one to get every se possible, did anyone else feel that way? 

    My onc plans on using veins for tx, but since I'm joining the trial, I might get a port since I'll get tx's for 24-27 weeks. I'll still be getting AC/T, but the frequency and duration will be determined after I am assigned to an arm.  I hope I don't get assigned to the arm that gets weekly infusions of all 3 drugs, that one scares me a bit.

    Lisa:  of course you're not self-absorbed, these insurance companies can be a royal pain in the butt.  I hope you get everything worked out with them.

    Apple: It's good that you told them what you heard them say, that is so unprofessional of them, really.  They should be ashamed.

    For those on steroids:  do the steroids make your heart race?  It seems that if it makes you kind of "hyper"  that it could make your heart race.

    I am really getting nervous as Tuesday approaches, although reading your posts makes me feel a bit better.  DH got laid off on Friday, and as much as that totally sucks, at least he'll be around to help me out as I start chemo. 

    Judy

  • Terri42
    Terri42 Member Posts: 56
    edited February 2009

    I'm sorry you got sick Michele - it will be over with soon -

    Apple - my husband suggested starting a book with crazy things people have said to me since being diagnosed with cancer!  My "friend" who lives far away asked me if I was "totally flat" right after the mastectomy and if I had taken pictures - I was too stunned to even answer thinking I didn't hear her correctly...oh same "friend" left a voicemail stating she was freezing her b**bs off in AZ and said oops wrong choice of words...

    I really should start a list...

  • Nancyb7912
    Nancyb7912 Member Posts: 84
    edited February 2009

    I went wig shopping today and got a new haircut as a pick me up. That haircut was only the second time I have cried. I think these actions are making it real for me. Until yesterday it was mostly talk. Now, I just want to get it going so I can get it over with sooner. I will know on Monday or Tuesday which day for the port. My onco's PA suggested I might want to go straight to chemo after the port installation. Has anyone done this?

  • kelty
    kelty Member Posts: 80
    edited February 2009

    I found it's hard to do wig shopping with full head of hair, but my hair right now is in perfect length, I hate to cut it.  I wonder if I can wait after the second AC shot to do wig shopping.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited February 2009

    why not Kelty?  I cut my hair  - buzzed it... right after  my first chemo.  what a mistake.  I had hair for at least another 6 weeks.  you can always wear a scarf.  The wig people are wondrously comfortable with hair loss.

    Actually, my first wig was a total flop (i got it to match my old hair).  I only wore it once.

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited February 2009

    Apple~  Your hair stayed for 6 weeks??  What chemo were you on?  My onc told me that by the 2nd treatment, it would be gone.  I'm getting AC every other week...

    A question for you port people:  were you (are you) sore???  Mine hurts soooo bad.  Really bad muscle pain. ouch.  However, it isn't swollen or hot so I doubt an infection.  Help!

  • living4today
    living4today Member Posts: 215
    edited February 2009

    Michele,  Although I had my bilat mast w/expanders at the same time as port placement, it was sore, but I didn't realize it as much as mast hurt more.  After the first few weeks out I forgot the port was even there.  The only time I notice it now is if I am sitting in a certain position and if I wear the wrong type of shirt and have pressure on the spot.  Hang in there, in the long run you will be glad you chose the port.  I had mine accessed only once for a lab draw and although blood draws don't bother me, the port was so nice.  Hope you can relax today and feel much better.

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