FlaLady -did you ever find out about Miltex

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downtownfan
downtownfan Member Posts: 29

Hi-

I have been reading through some archives and just wondered if you ever found the Miltex and if it worked for you?

Thanks!

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  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2009

    Miltex
        
         Miltex was originally developed in Germany as an oral treatment for
    breast cancer. It is a derivarive of Phosphocholine. Chemically it is a sort of
    lipid. It has been tried internally in the treatment of breast cancer, but
    the concentations needed to treat breast cancer are too toxic on the GI tract
    to be effective.
          While the concentrations needed to treat breast cancer internally are
    simply too high, oral Miltex is very effective in treating a parasitic
    protozoal infection known as Leishmaniasis, which is endemic in India and spread by
    sandflies. It is given in a dosage of 100mg /day for 28 days and can cure
    94% of the Kala Azar infections.
           Topical treatment of the skin mets of breast cancer with Miltex is
    another matter. The drug has been used, and is being used to treat this
    situation..It is applied as a 6% solution and the dosage is, for the first week, 2
    drops of the solution per 10 cm2 of affected skin applied daily. If there are
    no, or minimal local side effects, the dosage is increased to 2 drops of the
    6% Miltex solution per 10 square centimeters of affected skin tissue, twice
    daily.This dose is continued, more or less, as long as it is effective and
    there are no severe local side effects.The main local side effects are itching,
    burning, desquamation, and irritation. Apparently skin that has been
    irradiated may be more sensitive to the effects of Miltex solution. The success rate
    for the treatment of the skin mets of BC is about 40%. Systemic absorbion of
    the drug from the skin is minimal.
     Some Oncologists have dropped the dose to one drop/ 10 sq centimeters
    affected skin surface, two times a day if 2 drops are too irritating. After the
    solution is dropped on, it is gently rubbed into the lesion and surrounding
    tissue, very gently with the fingers, enclosed in a rubber glove. Since people
    on the board have used Miltex, they can give you more explicit directions on
    actual use. Overall the topical use seems safe.
          The mechanism of action of Miltex against breast cancer skin mets is
    not exactly known. It seems to increase the intra- cellular concentrations of
    Ceramide about 53%. Cetrimide is a lipid that is very involved in Apotosis or
    programmed cell death. Its kind of complicated, as there is an abundant
    lipid in the cell surface called Sphingosine. Depending on enzyme activation,
    Sphingosine can be changed to Ceramide and induce apoptosis (an anti-cancer
    action) or can be phosphorylated to Sphingosine Phosphate, and act to stop
    apoptosis (a "pro cancer" action). Miltex seems to push the cells to produce more
    Ceramide and this leads to cell death. Of course, this is a simplified
    explanation.
        Miltex also inhibits Protein Kinase C (PKC) and PKC inhibition leads to
    inhibition of the RAS signaling pathway which is very involved in the growth
    of tumour cells.

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2009

    Here are some stories of ladies that has used Miltex

    Lady X has a mother in Wisconson who's
       Oncologist treated her with Miltex (I'm not sure how the
       Oncologist obtained it). Once applied to her breasts
       (the mets grew to the non-tumorous breast),
       she developed "red spots" not only where applied,
       but over her shoulders and back as well (within five days).
       Over time, her Mother found that Miltex only made her
       skin raw and was very painful, while the skin mets
       continued to spread.

  • ibcspouse
    ibcspouse Member Posts: 613
    edited January 2009
    Lady Y.     Miltex worked for a while with skin mets that were just breaking
    through the skin. Then it stopped working. One time my skin mets got bad
    like yours sound, and at that time I started ABRAXANE which worked really
    great but only for 3 months, but while it was working, the skin met blisters
    and bleeding just melted away and healed. I was so pleased. I thought I
    had found the answer. Then it quit working. The mets got bad and I had
    radiation again which helps greatly for a while but then the mets come back
  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited January 2009
    I research and asked my doctor about Miltex.  He said this burns very bad when applied.(?)  You can only get it in the US for compassionate care through a request for the pharm. company.

    I was told about Aldara by someone online here.  This is kind of the same kind of cream. This is only used on open wounds.  You can only use it in a place the size of a quarter daily for five days ever other week. This did a wonderful job in healing and closing up my open wounds.  I was surprised how fast.  Just remember it only treats the top few layers of skin and not all the way down to  bottom layer. I would recommend it to anyone.

    Flalady

  • downtownfan
    downtownfan Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2009

    Thanks! How did you get the Aldara..sounds like a better option than the Miltex. I am just looking for something that might ease her pain. If she could have some relief for the open sores I think that would be a step in the right direction.

    Is is prescription?

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited January 2009

    downtownfan,

    She will need a prescription.  Does her skin smell?  For me this was the worst part.  I found that if I misted my chestwall with hydrogen peroxide after getting out of the shower daily this did help.  You can do it twice a day and no more.  To much will make the sore raw. They now make it in a spray bottle.  Only took about twenty years to figure out that's how it should have been all along:) I was also concerned about infections with low blood with chemo.

    You may have to push the doctor to give it to her.  Let them know you understand this is for the open wounds only and it will not stop bc.  They get a little weird about these creams for some reason. 

    Flalady

  • downtownfan
    downtownfan Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2009

    Humm.... not sure if her skin smells. I am in DC and she is in Dallas but I am going to LA so I can see for myself then. She says that anything she puts on it stings..... I will mention about the spray bottle. They have her on morphine and hydrocodone and some days that isn't even enough for the pain.

    I will talk to the doctor in CA about this and see what we can do. The last two days have been pretty good for her but anything to make the sores not quite as bad would be great.

    Thanks for all the help!

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited January 2009

    My pain was bad also...some day really bad. Nights the worst.  I tried everything.  The peroxide really did help. It was cold but did not sting.  Also I would put ice packs on my chest to numb the areas. I hope she is not wearing a bra and wearing loose clothes.  You need to keep air on the skin.  

    I so hope you can find away to make your Mom comfortable.  Make sure she has something to help her sleep.  But make sure she has someone handling her meds.  Morphine can make you feel really strange and not sure whats real and what was just a thought in your drug haze.

    May God hold you both close over the next weeks and months.

    Flalady

  • drnix
    drnix Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2009

    I hope this is where to post questions as well.  I ordered Miltex (oncologist-assisted) about a month ago.  I have not heard from them.  Followed up with a letter about a week ago.  I realize it is in Germany - but does anyone have any idea as to the process to be approved, ie - how long does it take - do they have additional criteria, etc.

  • drnix
    drnix Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2009

     No, not yet.  Thanks.

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