Oncotype DX Roll Call!
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I haven't posted here recently, however, the treatment I had was:
Right lumpectomy with SNB, followed by 10 Taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin dose dense, 35 rads, 1 year Herceptin every 3 weeks.
Just had my semiannual labs and a chest xray in preparation for my onc appt next Monday. Hoping all is well...he mentioned back in July that he would do a CT scan and bone scan this time, so guess that will be next.
I don't know my recurrence percentage, since the score was 47, we just know it is high, so I assume, according to your chart 31-32%. Wow. Never thought of it that way!
Love to all,
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Oh, and Moody....since I was lopsided, I had a left breast reduction for symmetry and it turned out beautifully....so both sides have scars, even if they are in different places! lol!
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Hi Moody, First of all I want to say you are such a sweetheart! Not only for keeping this thread going, but all the positive thoughts and advice you put out there! God is working through you girl! I had a Right Mx & SNB. Four rounds of TC. I am currently on tamoxifen and am in the bisphosphonate clinical trial (chlodronate arm).
I know what you mean for wanting to keep everything even, but I saw 3 different surgeons and none of them wanted to take my healthy breast. In the meantime I had passed my 6 month follow up breast mri in Nov. So far, so good!
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talbrig I got you updated- sorta made an "executive decision" and put 32%- Thanks
And LMBO about your matching scars! That is hilarious!
And I am very happy that you got your symmetry! We do deserve something good out of this nightmare dont we. -
JustSaying- My oncotype score was 19 and my oncologist quoted me about a 2% benefit, as did my "second opinion" oncologist.
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moodyk13 - I think you still need to update me. SNB, RM w/o R.
Thanks!
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arsura all I can say is "oops". LOL Thanks, I think I got it right this time....I hope
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i am brand new to this site. i have an onco score of 16. i did 28 radiation treatments and will go on tamoxifin for a few years until i go into menapause then switch to the other one not sure how to spell it, its for women post menapausal. i was worried maybe i should have done chemo but the onco didnt recommend it.
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Just Saying---I did quite a bit of research on chemo, and as far as I could tell TC was one of the likeliest combinations to work for lobular, which is resistant to adriamycin in many (though not all) cases. Adriamycin seems to work best on the more aggressive tumors--HER2+ for example. Yours and mine, like most lobular, are HER2-.
Since your goal is long-range survival, a 4% absolute benefit may seem worthwhile, though it has to be weighed against the unpleasant side effects of chemo. Most people seem to tolerate TC very well and find that it isn;t as bad as they expect, but individual tolerances for any regimen vary. I think you have to consider carefully what you might be getting into before deciding on any bc treatment.
But that's just my disposition. If Moody has a passion for balance and symmetry, I have a passion for economy. I hate the thought of wasted motion, of doing more than nenessary to accomplish a goal, and that makes me conservative about medical decisions. The thought of doing chemo for no benfit, which is what the node positiiive graph suggested I could expect, obviously didn't appeal to me. though I might have tried it for a 4% gain. My preference for economy is also partlly why I opted for a lumpectomy, in spite of the fact that it can be difficult to achieve with lobular. Besides, my mother had to live with the results of a mastectomy for 38 years, and I knew that I wanted to avoid a similar experience if possible.
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Seabee, you are such a delight!
You really have done tons of research havent you! Thanks for mentioning your passion for economics---always makes me feel better knowing I am not the only one with a "vice" so to speak! LOL -
Moody--I did do a lot of reading after I was diagnosed, because bc can be a life-and-death matter, and I've had enough experience in more trivial instances to know that doctors are not infallible. Just the unpleasant experience I had with the core needle biopsy was enough to convince me that this time I'd better watch out for myself as never before. Reading was also a way of reassuring myself that I was doing something productive, though a lot of it didn't apply directly to my situation.
If I know of a piece of information that might help someone else make a decision, I pass it on, because I've benefited from the information other posters have shared, and also from other posters' responses to my posts, which caused me to clarify my thinking. It's good to pass the good will on, as you are doing with this thread.
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AMEN Sister!
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Hi!
Just got my oncotype results.........local 9 distant 6.Lorraine ox
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Good numbers, Lorraine. But when did they start giving separate numbers for local and distant?
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seabee, not sure, onc just called today and I expected just one number and he gave me those two, I was suprised also! I am having him fax over the report so I can see it all.
Lorraine
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Hi,
My oncotype score was 27. At first my husband and I fretted over the stats etc. with taking chemo. Then we decided that whatever the improvement was, doing the chemo is worth it.
Well we went to a number of oncologists. The first gave us two choices of chemo,,CMF and 4 TC but did not encourage us to choose either one or even to have chemo. The second oncologist told us about all three types of chemo and said if you could do anything to better your chances of not having a recurrence just do it. We now agree . She was sort of suggesting 4 TC's. I then called my BS and she was not that thrilled with the oncotype study as it is based on statistics etc. She felt that CMF would be sufficient. Any ideas or thoughts.
What do most women take? I thought that most women on this board who had chemo due to their score took 4 TC's. I saw very few who took CMF, the milder of the three.
I have decided to have chemo but making this type of decision is difficult. My DH and I will go back to the oncologist to talk further next week.
I am currently having healing problems after the mastectomy so I cannot begin anything till I am all healed.
Any input from the gurus on this board will be welcome. PM 's would be welcomed also.
Hugs to all>>>>
Francine
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Hi fairy49 I wasnt sure how to"roll call" you so I guessed. I put you in with 6% recurrence score = 9. When you get your test from your onc you can come back and tell me if I need to change it. Also, I would like to list your treatment choices with it, if you want to have it included too.
crusader1, I already have you "roll called" with your score. I see you had a mastectomy. I would like to include it in our info. If you would like to have it included, can you tell me was it LM, RM, or BLM?
As far as your question regarding chemo, I see that you were diagnosed with ILC. Most women I have talked to here have had T/C. I am sure there are others who didn't, I can only tell you what I have been told by others. Babyc had T/C- her score was 27 also, but I dont rem if she had IDC or ILC , etc.
Perhaps you could post this question on the ILC board to see what others with your same type of cancer chose to do. Good luck and let us know what you decide!
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moody13
Hi~ roll call update, i had a lmp, snb ( only a small sample was taken ) , t/c 4 rounds. and i will have rad but i do not know for sure how many and will be on a pill for 5 years but do not know which one yet. 2/3/09 i get tx # 2. I the only problems i had with the 1st one is i picked up a viral infection and mouth sores. On day 10 i had blood work and it came back really good, but i was giving an IV of fluids , a antibiotic and a shot to boost my wbc. So i was really only ill for like 5 hours. I have to work and i think that is where i caught this. The next time my supervisor said i can be sheltered a bit more from staff to help! My hair is starting to go now! I really don't mind as much cause i had long hair and had it cut very short before tx started, and i do not like this cut. Soon this will be over and life can get back to a nornal pace!
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Moody,
Yes, I had a RM, SNB, LMP(failed), tumor1.2( ILC)
Moody you are doing a great service to all of us..This board has gotten me thru a lot.
Thanks and many hugs to all the ladies out there.
Francine
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Hi Moody! my treatment was bi-lat mast, SNB, no chemo, supposed to start tamox but not sure yet..... Onc definately says that the Oncotype DX test result was local recurrance score 9, distant recurrance score 6, so thats what it is!
thanks!
Lorraine ox -
Crusader-- CMF is the cocktail that the Oncotype scores were based on. I don't know how effective it is for ILC. Most chemo attacks fast-growing cells, and ILC tends to be slower growing, so it is not as responsive. TC, which works somewhat differently,*may* be effective for ILC (which is mostly resistant to AC--glad no one is urging that on you). TC seems to be increasingly prescribed and is mostly well tolerated, so if you are going to do chemo it is the one I decided was most likely to benefit me--until my Oncotype score came back low risk. This is not a recommendation, but if my score had been 27 instead of 16, I would have tried TCx4.
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Mine was IDC, 2.5 cm with a 27 score. Am getting ready to do treatment #2 Monday with the taxotere/cytoxan. I've had no serious side effects but have some "blips" that I definitely wouldn't choose. There's an entire topic devoted to this treatment. For everyone, who says she had a certain SE, another says she didn't....
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Hello everyone. My little gilr is in the hospital. I am on my blackberry so don't have time to go into details. Just asking for prayers & to let all new posters know I will update rollcall when we get home. Looks like mon night or tuesday
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Moody, I'm lifting you & your daughter up in prayer. May the Lord heal you & keep you safe!
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A speedy recovery to your little girl also. You have added so much to this board...
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My prayers are with your daughter, you and your family.
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Well I found a "parents business center" here at the hospital so I have run in here to update you guys. First THANK YOU so much for your love, concern and prayers!!!!
Not much to update The scan has been put off til tomorrow because they are so backed up down here. Most important though is they are keeping Olivia hydrated and keeping her fairly comfortable with the anti-nausea meds. As soon as the meds wear off though we know it as she gets soooooo sick.
She is only going to the bathroom once a day and not very much output. Doc has upped her fluids, but she still has only been once today. About 200cc's if we are lucky.
The ultrasound they did yesterday was pretty "inconclusive". It showed a group of "predominant" blood vessels in the lower left lobe of her liver. However, this isn't enough info to make a diagnosis, and could just be normal for her liver. The HIDA scan should be able to tell them more as it can see into her liver, pancreas, bile ducts and gall bladder.
The child had dropped down to 81lbs when we got here saturday afternoon and is down below 80lbs today. She has not been able to drink one drop or eat one single crumb of anything since last friday. They are giving her "sugar" water with her IV.........The pediatrician and GI doc came in this morning and said she was a sick little girl. But they seem confident they will ba able to figure it out and treat her very soon.
I just want to quickly give you a synopsis of what happened when we got here saturday. Friday night she was at her worst (she had been sick and out of school all week). Called pedi and he said to take her to Scottish Rite Childrens hospital in atlanta. We couldnt move her till saturday. So we got down here saturday afternoon and the "einsteins" in the ER came in and said she just needed a counselor and take her to the doctor next week!!!!!!! They drew blood and said she was NOT dehydrated...??? How can that be she has had nothing to drink all day and no more that 16 oz everyday this week. I guess they thought I was over exaggerating......ANYWAY, they sent us home at 11:30PM and didnt even give us a wheel chair to roll her out! She was so weak we had to keep sitting down while trying to get her to the car. We got about 5 min down the road and She was so freaking sick we had to pull over. I told hubby to turn around we are going back. Walked back in and they said they couldnt see her again before 24 hours.........Well.......I told them " that is just fine, I have my blanket and my pillow, we will just lay here in the floor until the 24 hours has passed"........they took us straight back. A NEW doctor walked in the room, took one look at her and had a fit! She got heads rolling and said had I not turned around and brought her back, she could have died from dehydration. Her tongue was so thick, white and dry. I told her what the first doc said. She said, blood work doesnt tell us everything. She said " I look at the tongue because it is the best indicator". Thank GOD for the NEW doctor!!!!!!!
Anyway, I have felt your prayers and so has Olivia. Please continue to lift her up and pray the Lord will reveal to the doctors whatever it is so they can begin to treat her. She is such a believer of prayer. Friday night we were in the bathroom floor for over 3 hours and couldnt move her. All she would say is "pray". Then a little bit later she would manage to say "keep praying". This baby is so sick, but still knows the power of prayer. Praise God!!!!!
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oh moody - that is soooo scary .. so glad that you got a new doctor when you went back and basicially insisted she be looked at. I'll start saying prayers for you and your little girl, Olivia, that the doctors can quickly find and easily treat whatever is going on with her.
Sending you lots of hugs and prayers!
Doreen
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Oh, MoodyK13... thank you so much for your update. I will indeed pray for your daughter, you, your family AND your doctors.
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Hi Moody, I hope Olivia is doing better. Prayers to her.
When you have a moment, please add me to the roll call
I am 52 and my score was 19, recurrence rate 12%. Lumpectomy (1/5/09), SNB, 0/10 nodes, due to start 16 rads on Wednesday.
I just found this out today and am rather surprised (my surgeon was sure it would be low - ha!) but also kind of bummed to be in that dang grey area where I need to decide, or play vegas with TailorX). Of course will chat with my oncologist.
but I have a couple of questions - Did anyone here with a score of 19 choose chemo? I have not caught up with reading all of the scores yet, sorry
Is it a problem doing chemo after rads if I so choose? . thanks, Lori
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