Just diagnosed, how long until ny life has some normalcy again?

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  • Linsky
    Linsky Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2009

    Lumpectomy, chemo and radiation will be taking 6 months for me, with the wait, of course...i'm starting the radio on the first of feb., i had to wait 2 the 3 weeks after the end of chemo and then the marks...Stay positive!

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited January 2009

    All the Donna with your surgery tomorrow, healing thoughts being sent your way....

    <> Michele
  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009

    Hi all..Just  a short note as i am weak. I am home.Surgery went textbook but did loose alot of blood and  did not get to my room until 11 hrs later?! I can say not the easiest of surgeries but in just what i know this far, my strong attitiude and excerise,yoga and hydration attributed to a most responsive surgery aftermath. I am sore,tired and have alot of healing ahead. Monday is ps appt,tuesday is path report , thursday is new oncologist appt to review the path report!!

    I HAVE THE MOST WONDERFUL HUSBAND in the world and got me thru it and is by me every second of this journey.GOD has even placed angels in my path at times thru nurses and strangers when times were so scary and did not know how i would even get to the bathroom!!!!

    Thanks for being here and will update as i can!! Healthy wishes... and my goldens by the way are adjusting and realizing their mommy is not doin so great and they are laying by me constantly!!So adorable!!!!

  • mzmiller99
    mzmiller99 Member Posts: 894
    edited January 2009

    DonnaDio - So glad to hear you're home and made it through!!  Sounds as though you are in good paws!!  Can't beat fur babies for being there for you when you most need them.  A big pat on the back for your wonderful hubby!

    Hope to hear from you soon.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2009

    Donna ~  I'm so glad that your surgery is behind you, and that you're home and have enough strength to post and let us know how you're doing.  Do you have drains?  That, to me, was the worst part of the first week or so.  Assuming you have them, you will feel so much better when they come out.  So, rest up as much as you can, and know that we will be thinking about you and hoping for only good news from your path.  Take good care... 

  • deemdee
    deemdee Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2009

    Hey There!

    Well as I am reading through your replies, I am so glad you asked the question. You and I are in the same time frame Dx'd last tuesday. So maybe we can stay in touch throughout our ordeal.

    Your Sister in Pink,

    Denise

  • bubbawilma
    bubbawilma Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2009

    Hi Sam,

    Please wait to see if any nodes are involved and if u are Estrogen and Progeston + or - and what the Her2 states. This will be so crucial when YOU and your Dr. decides the course of treatment. Trust me this will not last forever you will have a normal live again. After this is over you will be the one here giving the advice and your experience.

  • samiam40
    samiam40 Member Posts: 416
    edited January 2009

    Thanks everyone for your replies and good luck Donna with your recovery.  My bilat mx is scheduled for 2/3.  I will meet with an oncologist after that to determine what is next for me.

    Although I understand and appreciate what people are saying about life being a new normal after cancer, I think what I meant was when will I be able to get back to being a mother, wife, employee first and foremost, rather than being a "cancer patient".  Since my diagnosis, everything has revolved around me and my health, which is definitely not normal for me, nor desired.  I want to go back to worrying about children's summer camps and vacations and home improvements--the mundane day to day details of life--rather than life or death every minute of every day.

    I got some good insight from my plastic surgeon actually.  Although I didn't ask her this question, she volunteered that I should prepare myself for a bad year.  She said that parts of the next year would be miserable, but that I would be in her office this time next year saying that I can't believe a whole year has passed since my diagnosis.  This is one of the reasons I like her--that and her unhesitancy to say "this is what I would do."  I always ask that question and most doctors hem and haw and dance around it. She volunteered what her relatives with bc have done and what she would do if she was diagnosed, as far as surgery/reconstruction.  I really appreciated that.

    Thanks again everyone for your replies.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2009

    Samian ~ Wow!  It sounds like you have a real gem of a PS!   What she told you is incredibly perceptive and accurate.  In fact, if I had to capsulize 2008, I would say it flew by faster than any year ever -- literally a blur, punctuated with dream-like memories of doctors' offices and tests and hospitals.  In retrospect, although it probably was a "bad" year, surprisingly, as I think about it now, that would not be my first choice of words, because there truly have been some incredible gifts that have been interspersed with the bad, such as closer family relationships and deepened friendships.  You certainly find out who really loves you and how much.

    Regarding your original question, which you expressed so well above, and which I totally get... Due to changing doctors and some other things, my treatment has been kind of strung out, so I am just now finishing rads and I will still need another minor surgery for breast symmetry (I had a Diep).  But, I can honestly say that I am just beginning to get out of the overly-focused on me and bc thought patterns.  In fact, I spent Thursday this week at a golf tournament with friends, and commented to them later how it felt noticeably and wonderfully "normal," because for several hours radiation and bc and my body weren't the uppermost thoughts in my mind.  In fact, I kind of forgot all about them.  So, I think once you've make all the treatment decisions and done everything you can to rid your body of the bc, all of that energy will normally refocus on the most important things, although some of what's really important may shift a bit.         

  • Mahomet_mom
    Mahomet_mom Member Posts: 25
    edited January 2009

    I don't know if my life was ever really normal!  I had a lumpectomy and was back at work two weeks later waiting for Oncotype test results.  Then chemo was ruled out and radiation began ending in early June.  For me, I felt over the 'treatment' hump and had a very positive outlook.  Then I developed allergic reactions to aromatase inhibitors which put me in a slump.  Then a TIA in October - but no - another neuro opinion and it is probably Charcot-Marie-Tooth, a genetic peripheral neuropathy disorder. No cure but another chronic medical problem..

    Things have been back to normal at work since radiation ended except for a few days off dealing with these recent setbacks.  At home, my energy level picked up over time and the house, cooking etc are in better shape.

    Emotionally though this has been a tough year.  More good days than bad but a nagging level of anxiety and more depression as I muddle through.  I am hoping that by early summer ( a year after treatment ended) I will find my new normal and a greater sense of comfort.  It will certainly help when this lousy winter ends!  Take care....         

      

  • REKoz
    REKoz Member Posts: 590
    edited January 2009

    Donna- Wonderful news about your surgery!! I do hope your recovery is progressing nicely! Can't wait to get confirmation from you! My work return went very well this week. Though I am back full time, we have arranged some work that can also be done at home. I had my 2nd chemo on Fri am and got to work around noon feeling pretty good.Then at about 3:30, my boss (technically, we are all good friends there) came in my office and said that I looked like I was fading and to go home! She was right. This weekend has been much better than last, less nauseous, not as wiped. Don't know why, but I'll take it! One more tx on Fri and then my 1st week off! It's already going by fast. Much easier to say on a good day of course. Please keep us informed. You are in my prayers.

    Deanna- As always, you are filled with promising wisdom which is a gift to those of us reading. Thank You!

    M-Mom- I HEAR ya! Everyday seems to be something different. I am expecting that my hair might be departing in the very near future. Going to the look good feel better program given by the Amer. Cancer Soc. on Tuesday night. I am looking forward to both getting wig and makeup tips and meeting fellow SURVIVORS as we travel this path together.

    God Bless,

    Ellen

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2009

    samian ~  I wanted to add something to what I posted earlier.  Lest I sound like a Pollyanna, a lot of what I'm telling you now is not the way I felt when I was first dx'd, or when I was told I needed a mast (4 days after I'd had a lump), or when I learned the bc had gone to a lymph node (after I'd been told it was clear) and that I would need chemo.   Back then, I went through what every woman goes through -- shock, disbelief, fear, sadness, anger.  But I've been fortunate to have some very strong women supporting me in this journey, including several rels & friends who are bc survivors, as well as a wonderful DH and son.  It is because of them and the amazing women here that I have been able to get through this experience.  But it wasn't until recently that I've been able to look back and realize the incredible strength all of us doing this have.  If someone had told me any of this 10 months ago, or even 6 months ago, a part of me would have thought they were crazy. 

    I also wanted to say that after going through this experience, all of life's "normal" stuff -- worrying about summer camp and vacations and home decorating projects (which I'm starting to do again), all seem so much sweeter.  And I'm also finding that I'm much more mellow about life's little frustrations, which you suddenly realize aren't that important. 

    REKoz ~ It was your comment that got me thinking about all of this.  Thank you for making me realize even more how blessed I have been to have a strong support system.  I feel like I am just playing it forward, so to speak, as some of my bc-survivor friends did for me, and as I know you will, too.

  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009

    Well all comments are goin as awesome as ever.. Samian.. as Deanna says it is right on info and would appreciate that too.Though i am here now and realize in the whole scheme of things in less than a week of recovery, this will eventually be a bump in the road moreorless after a year;s time. Though right now.. i feel it is a tragic head on collision as i have alot to recover yet in.

    Thanks REK and Deanna..Deanna... I FINALLY did cry and man it felt good!!!  I needed the release!!!My sleep is drug induced and get MAYBE 6 hrs...alot of anxiety . See the P.S. today to see the drains and wonder how long that will stay in.REK..good job on work and them letting you work from home etc.. you are such a trooper!!!

    Taking the drains out..does it hurt?!!!!Honestly.. I CAN HANDLE IT ..LOL.Sleeping only on my back in a recliner is what i think is the hardest and not getting restorative sleep.

    My path report findings should be given tomm by phone and then Thursday I have a first time appt with a well recommended Onocologist to reivew it all and see if treatment plan is necessary. Not sure of much from surgery,but i needed a transfusion as i lost alot of blood. Will get confirmation on all of that also.

    For now.. thanks and keep the healthy thoughts goin and for all of you a healthy group hug from Your sister in Pink who is fighting to get back to the new normal!!!!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2009

    One of the ladies at work was coughing away and I went to her, concerned about if she was ill. She snapped at me: "Oh Barbara, you've raised the bar for all of us and we can't be off sick without feeling guilty! I wanted to stay home and then thought of you coming back to work 3 weeks after your (double mastectomy) surgery and just knew I had to come in!"

    I was kind of stunned. I had just wanted everything to get back to normal as quickly as possible. Now I know nothing will be normal again.

    Change is inevitable, growth is optional. 

  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009
    Barbe...  YOU are doin the BEST !!!!! This is an example of nothing ever being the same again. Personally,  in just ONE WEEK, change is felt. Good to know that you are a role model for strength and courage and it is rubbing off on others!!!!!
  • REKoz
    REKoz Member Posts: 590
    edited January 2009

    Working from home today. Although I haven't gotten much done in between bathroom visits and just general over BLECH. I did take someone's suggestion to get the sea bands with the pressure points your wear on your wrists for nausea and I do have to say they have REALLY helped me. It's much more tolerable although it's the other end giving me a few issues today. Sorry to be forthright but as we all know now, anything goes as far as what chemo does to the body! Sorta like after you've had a baby and visits to the gyno have completely lost any emotional discomfort. All modesty goes out the door so to speak!

    Barbe- That was a very curious response by your co-worker. Because I can't hear you say it, I don't know if she was complementing or dissing you? Since you said she snapped, I thought maybe you didn't feel good about what she said? Or was it more like you set the example for a being such a strong person?

    Deanna- I am happy to have helped you gain insight as you are here to do for others. I think that is one of my main gifts to take from these boards. Surely, there is no better place to vent and vent I will if I must. But mostly for me, it's easier to get through when inspired by others or reading a perspective I had not previously thought of. Like one of those "aha" moments. Of course experiences come with growing older and I am constantly amazed at age 53 how suddenly some things that have always been take on a new and incredibly important meaning. If not for that, I don't know how else I'd cope! Though middle aged in body, I still am that same young, impish, fun loving person I always was. So new perspective is a wonderful way to make this getting older  journey a lot less scary!

    And finally YOU oh Donna of drainage! I had 4 of them and someone told me that getting them off would hurt. It didn't though and any discomfort was over in a flash. And getting rid of those plastic hangers was great! Almost as great as being able to take a full body shower without needing help for the first time. Now THAT was most awesome and certainly one of those things that I couldn't help realize how much I had taken for granted! Rest up and feel well. I'll be checkin in more often when I'm working from home!

    Thanks to all for being here!

    Ellen

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2009

    Ellen, because she did snap at me I took a little bit of offense. She tried to gloss over, but I think she was sorry she said it. The other ladies in sales support are blown away too, but hey, they get an hourly wage, I'm on 100% commission - I HAVE to work!

    I never showered while my drains were in as I read somewhere not to do that for risk of infection. I wasn't too steady the first time without them, so I can't imagine having them in and washing my body that way (no bath either, just a washcloth). My husband washed my hair over the kitchen sink for me as I couldn't bend over the tub.

    As for the drains. My first one hurt but my second at 22 days was easy. The doctor took out the second one and when I was surprised it didn't hurt he asked me if the day nurse had opened the drain so there was no suction. Duh!! Makes sense, eh? I had expected the 22 day one to kill, but I didn't even realize he was doing it! 

  • hulatalulala
    hulatalulala Member Posts: 8
    edited January 2009
    As many of the posts have noted, even after 3 years post diagnosis, CANCER & it's connotations loom heavily at times & escape me at others.  I was literally non-functional in any practical sense for at least 2-3 weeks after diagnosis.  We had bought a house that was a foreclosure & were scheduled to move in during my radiation (I had mammosite radiation -- 2X/day for 5 days).  The whole scene was overwhelming for a person who is generally too pragmatic to get overwhelmed.  During that time I had great difficulty taking anything from beginning to end, whether it was a big project like getting the house into enough order to move in early rather than in the middle of radiation or just trying to "think" something through.  I could not bring myself to read about breast cancer or the options they were offering despite the fact that I am a nurse & can usually de-presonalize diagnoses.  Not this one.  No sir.  It was very, very personal.  It was actually not untill a year or so after diagnosis that I was able to investigate & ask the questions I probably should have been asking the first few weeks into it all.  (For this reason, I suggest you get copies of EVERYTHING -- pathology reports, lab results, surgical notes, appointment summaries -- to go through when you're ready.)  Fortunately, I have a patient oncologist.  Now, nearly 3 years later, I believe I've reached that "new normal" described by others.  I tend to the business of BC follow-up & prevention.  I take my meds faithfully, eat as right as I can, exercise, do SBE religiously & try to keep the reality of BC in perspective.  I even forget all about it at times which seems like a good sign to me.  Time, I believe, is what is needed to "normalize."  Counseling (didn't have it formally but have several friends who are professional counselors) & support from others (did have this from family, friends & other BC survivors) can be immensely helpful, but it just took time for me to be able to wrap my head around it all so to speak.  I wish you well & hope to see posts from you as things straighten out in your personal journey. 
  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009

    Oh good..thanks all for drains and how it will be ok when they slowly take them for me. Little each step per night being able to roll on a side to sleep on the recliner. Ellen.. You are sooooo right..taking that first shower without help!!!!!Goin to try to blow dry my hair today?? I did too much yesterday in arm excercises and movemments. A little swellling occurred as a reult today! I AM  not one to stop pushing and then this will be the result.!!

    Here's to evolving each day and getting to that "new normal" slowly but surely!!

  • REKoz
    REKoz Member Posts: 590
    edited January 2009

    Donna-  Did you have a sentinal node biopsy? If so, you just MAY have to re-evaluate your previous excersise life of pushing yourself under these circumstances. It should be a real slow process with the arm excersises as the swelling had indicated to you. Seriously, take it slow because you can have further issues down the road with lymphodema which are not good. Gotta be careful of those mast. stitches as well.  I'm no expert by any means but I had that infection and the PS was so insistent and doing the excercises but taking it SLOW in the beginning. I need help to blow dry my hair because that stretch just hurt too much at first.

    Hula- Thanks for sharing your journey in such an intimate way. I am sure that there are several areas of my head that still need wrapping from all of this. And pretty soon, I will be meaning that in the literal sense as well! I am on a 3 week on, one off for 4 cycles Abraxene\carbo\herceptin.This Fri. will be the last of cycle #1 and I am soooo looking forward to a week off and hopefully a few more days in a row of feeling good. I expect that I will be seeing hair in my hands after the next one and have cut it short to prepare,

    Barbe- I thought that "sounded" like a sacastic type of comment from your co-worker. It sounds almost like a jealous of your attention comment. Amazing that there are individuals out there so wounded in a way that would cause that reaction. Doesn't sound like it would develop into anything but if it ever did for me, I'd note that I would GLADLY trade places!

    Well I must attend to work, I got very little done yesterday because I felt so vvery blech!  As great as it is to work from home right now, I find it harder to dig in and do it! Maybe if I stayed off these boards!!  Throwing out positive energy for us all to get through another day with a body that wants to cooperate!

    Ellen

  • mzmiller99
    mzmiller99 Member Posts: 894
    edited January 2009

    Barbe - it's surprising the some the reactions, isn't it?  My own mother told me she wished someone would give her some sympathy, after I was dxed...?   And here I am, thinking I was the one with bc.

      Then, when the other faculty members gave me a beautiful gift basket, she sadly said no one had ever done that for her...?  I put on a smile and told her all she had to do was get bc. Hello?  This is my own mother with a pout on. 

     I didn't need to be in a competition, I needed some support, so it made those worst months even worser!

    I guess either just smile and ignore or go for the throat!

    Hugs,

    Susan

  • Smedley
    Smedley Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2009

    Hello!  I ask my self the same question.  I am in my 3rd month of chemo and still have 3 months to go.  Then I have to have my implant surgery.  I had the reconstruction process started on September 24th (expansions in now) along with a bi-lateral mastectomy and 26 lymph nodes removed, with only 2 being removed.  I am not sure how old your children are, but I have two boys, ages 6 and 9.  They do not know that I have "cancer".  I am going to wait until they are a little older to tell them.  THey jsut know that mommy is not well right now, but working on feeling better.  The hair thing was the hardest for me to explain to them because I now have none.  I told my children that I was going to be taking medicine that was going to make my hair look pretty bad, so I was going to jsut shave it off and let it grow back.  They ask me all the time when my hair will grow back, when I can do this, etc.  ANd it is hard, but, you kind of have to learn to manage.  I do not know if you work or not, but I work, and I am a very hard worker and it has killed me that I have been out of work since 9-23-08.  I want to go back, but feel tired, or can't risk getting sick becuase unfortuenatly for me, my treatment plan hasn't gone as "scheduled".  I am a petite person, and weighed 90 pounds going into this, and when I had my first treatment, on October 31st, 2008, I went 4 1/2 weeks before my next treatment.  It had wiped my white blood counts out.  Even after a neulasta shot.  So, I do not know when normalcy will come into play again, but it does get better each day.  I just keep saying this is a bump in the road, and I will get over it and deal with it.  I have had excellent doctors, and I think that has made a difference, to me.  I tell my kids that next Christmas it will be different,k I will be more like myself.  I get scared, even still, from time to time, but, I can't change it.  Good luck to you and your family.  Please keep me posted!! 

  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009

    You are right Ellen!!!!! Not to overdo and know that tomm I WILL have two of the four drains pulled out and will receive an order for physical therapy. I did get some instrructional excercises to do by the surgeon's asst. in doin the rolling of arm slowly up the wall on each arm etc. But, like you said, I am goin to stop being too overzealous on that issue.Hair drying is not  easy and understand what you are saying!!!!BTW.. did have the sentinel node biopsy!!!

    Hope  all here are doing ok for today! I see my onocologist today for first time.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2009

    Thanks for the sympathy about the lady at work guys. I see her today for the first time since she snapped at me. I'm curious to see where she "goes" with it all. I don't want to exacerbate it so I won't say anything (not even, "are you feeling better today?")

    Susan, I, too, am surprised with how often someone asks me how my husband is doing through all this. I'm so tempted to say, well, he isn't the one who had cancer, who went through surgery, who slept with drains, who looks down at an altered body or who returned to work so quickly because she HAD to!  Instead, I just smile and say that he says he'd rather kiss me than my boob.

  • REKoz
    REKoz Member Posts: 590
    edited January 2009

    Wow Susan, that's alot to deal with coming from your Mom. I'd have to guess you've had similar issues with her in the past. That is tough anytime but I can't imagine how hard it is to deal with now. Hopefully you will find the comfort you need from friends and of course the awesome women on these boards! And keep on venting about it or you may explode!

    Donna- Best of luck to you today. I hope you love your Oncologist at least half as much as I like mine! God knows, we will be having a "relationship" for quite a long time to come! Let us know how it went and what if anything you are going to have treatment wise moving forward.

    I feel great today and am physically at work. (Working hard as you see!) This was exactly what happened last week the day b/4 going back for treatment. At least after tomorrow's, I'll get a week off and at least a week of feeling good. I think someone may have to drug me up and carry me back in to resume #4!

    Godspeed Ladies!

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2009

    Ladies... I think the question about how our husbands are doing is very perceptive and totally appropriate!  True, they're not the ones actually having the surgery or the chemo or the rads, but they have to watch someone they love dearly and want to protect go through it and experience pain and be emotionally miserable at times and feel totally helpless (not a good thing for a man) to prevent any of it or fix it.  Not to mention the fear of losing us!   Plus, in addition to their normal stresses at work and probably a lot more to do at home to pick up the slack of what we normally do (housework, childcare, cooking), they may have additional financial concerns with all the extra expenses and possibly decreased or no income from us.  Just speaking in general, I am so grateful when someone asks me or my DH in front of me how he's doing with all of this, as it sometimes gives him a chance to share some feelings, which he doesn't get to do and enjoy the support of here.  And how many of our DH's friends have been through this so really understand what he's going through?  Probably few to none.   Just a perspective I wanted to quickly share this a.m. as I dash off to rads.......   More later........   

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2009

    Don't get me wrong, I have no problem when they ask him either alone or in front of me. I just don't like when they ask just me! What am I supposed to say? Oh, he/we are doing terribly financially and emotionally, never mind physically since my impairment, but thank you for asking! My husband, oh, yes, he's right beside me!

  • samiam40
    samiam40 Member Posts: 416
    edited January 2009

    Smedley, thank you for your post.  I have 4 kids, but two are boys the same age as yours (5-1/2 and 9) and my heart breaks for them (mine and yours).  They rely on us so much, and there's just no good way to explain this to them.  Like you, I plan to tell them that things should be better by next Christmas.  I wish you and your family only good things from here on out.

  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009

    Deanna...Did you have to have chemo as part of your treatment? I am to have it and looks like 9weeks and 4 treatments. I was not prepared for this news BUT understand why. My onoclogist is one of the best in her field, BUT not a warm and fuzzy kind and that almost pushed me else where. After alot of investigating, she is the BEST and there are support around her that wll give me the TLC!!!

     NOW  I need to get educated on chemo and what that will be. Loosing hair and fatigue and just the thought of the poision goin in me, just scares me.

    AM getting stronger daily and healing slowly!!!! Hope all is well with you and everyone here@!!

  • DonnaDio
    DonnaDio Member Posts: 905
    edited January 2009

    REK..Thanks!!!! How long was your chemo treatment and overall was bearable? Did you have  a wig as hair loss will be part of my treatment for certain. I am in the educating phase. Hope all is getting better daily!!!

    Smedley..praying for you!!I KNOW this is not easy and yet your strength is shining thru!! I AM NOT looking forward to chemo and appreciate your post to get more edcuated. Please know you are not alone and anything writing here hopefully helps you!!! It does for me.Sister in Pink and sending hugs!!!!

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