Starting Chemo February 2009?

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  • donna2001
    donna2001 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2009

    Hey Michele.  Another Alabama girl.  Smile Welcome.   Yes...the local hospital here in Opelika is great and I feel very comfortable and trusting with the doctors.   I will start my 1st chemo treatment on Friday (Jan. 30).  I am starting with AC.  I am having my port put in on Monday.  I am trying to decide whether to be put to sleep or just have a sedative? The doctor is letting me decide which I prefer.  Have most girls in this group already had their port put in? ?? What kind of anesthesia has everyone had with this surgery? ???  How painful is it?  Going to purchase everything for my chemo kit today!!

    Donna

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited January 2009

    Living4today, I could so start an entire thread about dumb things people have said to me. It seems endless. I just have to keep telling myself they mean well. And, in general, they do, but man, oh man! I.E. A good friend who isn't known for her um, street sense, after finding out all the rest of my nodes came back negative: "So what now? Do they put them all back?" AKKKK! LOL!

    We made it to the 60's yesterday! Same today, but with rain. I'll take it. I'll take it!

    gcpommom, I had lumpectomy, but yes, itching too. I took it as a sign of healing. It did drive me a little nuts, but it went away along with most of the numb spots in a week or so.

    Hey grace4me! Welcome to the Furies! Sorry you're having to join us, but it's shaping up to be a great group to go through this with. Any word on the drains coming out? I had lump, but then had to go back for ALND and needed a drain for that one. I only had to wear it about 10 days. Any longer and I think I'd have been in a straight jacket!

    Carol0371, I'm a research HOUND so I'm amazed I didn't know more about Avastin. Thanx for educating me on that one! It sounds like it might be milder than some of the others. I hope it does well for you!

    MicheleS!!!! Hey There Neighbor! So you're having chemo, eh? Glad you're doing in now so we can do it together! Too bad they're not sending you over here with me. We could tear it up on the Bay side, haha!

    I opted out of both port and picc. I'm not a squeemish person, really, I'm not--well, other than my needle phobia, my lab coat phobia and an inexplicable terror of a port. No amount of medical reasoning or logic could stop me from becoming a quivering puddle of mush crying in hysterics every time the issue was raised. I'll be doing it with veins the whole way. Doc promised he'd find them one to use even if it was in my big toe, haha! No wisdom for you there, just sheer panic, haha!

    Chemo kit, well, you probably won't need half of it, but it's rather distracting and feels in control if you put it together while you wait for the start. I'm just about there. Happy reading! Glad to have you with us, Girl! 

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited January 2009

    BTW, ya'll I'm gonna be a little sporadic for a bit. I fell on my right shoulder (the one that was repaired 11/20) and am in a serious amount of pain. I'm ALSO having MORE problems with my brand new computer. Don't worry tho, I can still read, most of the time... haha!

  • living4today
    living4today Member Posts: 215
    edited January 2009

    Webwriter:  So sorry to hear about your pain, definitely didn't need that on top of everything else....60's I am so jealous...It was like -14 this morning...I think right now it is like 2degrees out, glad I can stay in today.  I have this need to try and get everything in order before chemo, kind of feels like nesting...too bad it isn't? 

    I had a port placed when I had my bilat mast...my surgeon has great foresight.  Doesn't bother me at all, now the expanders are a different story.  Years ago I did have a picc placed for some long term IV and didn't care for it as my was very visible.  My port is covered by my clothes. 

    Haven't started the chemo bag yet, but my very special husband has created a little oasis in my living room, green plants, water fall, soothing music and candles....love it and hope I feel too good to enjoy it:) 

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited January 2009

    Michele  My onc plans to administer the chemo through the veins, unless it just doesn't work out.  At that point, I don't know if I'd want a PICC line....my 22 yr old daughter, who has been very ill for over a year, has had a picc line in place for a year now.  She has been in the hospital 6 times for very serious picc line infections in the last year.  I guess my question would be: does the port have less chance of getting infected than the picc line.   Her picc line is used for nutrition as well as meds, and while I am a picc line 'pro' now, just not sure I want one.  DD has no choice.

    Webwriter:  MBC is comprised of different types of cells than regular IDC, and there is relatively no research or info on the best way to treat.  It has a very high recurrence rate, usually goes to the lung very quickly if it does spread.  It's almost always triple negative.

    I did my week-long online research of statistics, drove myself crazy, ended it with a 24-hour, no sleep, crying....and then I was done.  Finished with the numbers, with the lack of info.  Time to start looking ahead, to doing treatment, to putting this behind me.

    I hope to get out this weekend and shop for my stuff for chemo, too.  Ready to start the fight!

    Judy

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited January 2009

    Webwriter---Just saw your post about the fall---sorry that you are going through pain.  I hope you are ok.  I am still having pain from my fall, so I know how you feel.  For me, I found that babying it afterwards made it get worse, so after resting it for a few days, I started doing my exercises again, and think it is starting to improve. 

    What happened to your shoulder in the past (you mentioned having it repaired in Nov.)?

    Judy

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited January 2009

    Hello, February Members ~
    Donna2001 invited me here from the January thread since I'm starting chemo on Jan 27th.  I'll be having 8 rounds of treatment with a week in between each one:  4 of Adriamycin/Cytoxan and 4 of Taxol.

    I have two days to get my "Chemo Kit" packed up; I better get moving! Thanks for all the great ideas!

    Love to all,
    Artemis

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2009

    Hi Artemis!  Same protocol as me (except I'm also getting Avastin thrown in).  Please let me know how your 1st treatment goes!!!  I'll be starting 1 week after you!!

    Michele

  • TwillNW
    TwillNW Member Posts: 46
    edited January 2009

    Hi to all - not really happy to be joining this group but happy there is a group to join.  I have lurked a bit on these boards since my diagnosis and am now scheduled to start chemo on Feb 4 so decided to go public.  I had a lumpectomy and lymph node dissection on 12/23 after diagnosis on 11/21.  Very happy to see a couple of others starting chemo about the same time with the same regime.  We are planning dose dense AC X 4 followed by Taxol x 12. I'm feeling ready to get going on this but apprehensive with the unknown of how I am going to respond and how much of my regular life I am going to be able to manage during treatment.  Looking forward to having folks to share the journey with...

    Tricia in the Pacific NW

  • donna2001
    donna2001 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2009

    Welcome Tricia.  I will also be having AC x 4  followed by Taxol x 12. I also will receive Herceptin to complete one full year.  I will be having my first chemo Friday, Jan. 30. I am very apprehensive also.  Frankly I'm scared to death.  It is nice to be able to read how everyone else was nervous and then got through it.  Apparently it is not fun but it is doable.  I will let you know after Friday.  I am getting my port in the morning.  I am seriously praying that it doesn't hurt.  This board has been a "god send" to me.  I think you will enjoy it as well.

    Donna

  • MicheleS
    MicheleS Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2009

    Donna,

    Please, please, please post about getting your port.  I'm still debating PICC vs port!! I need to let my surgeon know on Tues which I want.

    Good luck tomorrow.  I'll be thinking of you.

    Michele

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited January 2009

    TwillNW ~ Welcome!  I'm sorry you had to join us, but in the short time I've been here, I've found this to be a wonderful place full of support and information.

    Donna and MicheleS ~ I had my port placed this past Thursday the 22nd.  I was awake enough to know they were doing things to me, but didn't care much because the nurse kept giving me what she called "liquid courage", lol.  I had pain that night (slept with ice packs), Friday and Saturday.  It's much much better today (Sunday) though I'm still taking Tylenol for it.  Good luck, Donna; I'm sure you'd going to do just great.  And, yes, MicheleS, I'll be sure and report on my first chemo.

    Artemis

  • Brenny
    Brenny Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2009

    Michele S - I have a port and I am happy with my choice.  I had my first tx about a week after placement and have had no issues with it. I can feel the quarter-sized marker-didn't have stitches, just superglue (or something similar).  My friend had a pic and said she hated it - constantly hiding it under sleeves and picking clothes that would cover it.  Not sure what makes the "right" decision - read the port placement thread at the top of the chemotherapy thread for more info.

    Brenny

  • Triciaski
    Triciaski Member Posts: 145
    edited January 2009

    I will probably be joining the Feb 2009 chemo group mid-Feb. I'm still hoping to get out of it -- waiting for a second FISH test and oncotype. But my oncologist seems determined (the only question in his mind is whether I will get AC alone or AC followed by Herceptin). I'm not clear, though, why he wants me to do AC. It sounds like that's the worst of the worst. Why not something a little less horrible? After reading this forum, I am going to ask him at my next appointment.

    Tricia

  • Britt
    Britt Member Posts: 731
    edited January 2009

    Hi -

    I MAY be starting chemo in late in mid-late Feb - will also order Oncotype score - have yet to met with onco - but I had a lump/snb on 1/16 and BS did not see any neg nodes at that time.  However, got path report last Friday which my BS discussed during post-op exam. 0.2 mm found in sentinel node and nothing found in the order node that was taken out.  BS - who was not too concerned - gave me the option of the axillary node operation and my gut reaction was to say NO!!   She agreed with me. Meeting with onco some time  this week.  I read that other womaen with similar micromets received TC chemo for four rounds, followed by rads (if they thd not have a mast) and then tamox or an AI

    I may be jumping the gun, and I an totally researched out at this point, but would someone be kind enough to explain TC chemo - does it cause you to lose hair? Any other s/es?

    Thanks for any and all input.

  • Terri42
    Terri42 Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2009
    Hi guys - glad to meet everyone although I wish it was for a different reason!  I start chemo on Monday, Feb 2nd (AC) - getting my port on Friday first.  I'm normally a very headstrong positive person and this is killing me - I had a double mastectomy on December 31st (a New Year I will NEVER forget!) and I still feel like this isn't real.  I just can't get it into my head that I have cancer - I just turned 42 and I feel fine so why am I going to subject myself to hell?  I'm scared to death - even reading the posts about the port made me nervous - I didn't think that was going to be a big deal - I guess I should know better by now!  Today is a feeling sorry for myself day - tomorrow is another day although I get my tires inflated tomorrow so I'll feel like my chest muscles are bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger's!  On a positive note - I got my hair cut last week - 10 inches off something I would never have normally done and I actually like it (kids and hubby did too!) - too bad it's not going to last for long - but at least I know I can get away with short hair!  I look forward to future posts - we can do this.....I think!Undecided
  • donna2001
    donna2001 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2009
    Michele, I am home from my port surgery and I feel GREAT.  I am not sore and I never felt anything.  I was given anesthesia instead of being sedated.  My surgeon gave me the choice.  I woke up feeling good and was home in less than 4 hours.  I do not know anything about the PICC.  I went to the port placement thread that Brenny mentioned.  There was a lot of helpful information there.  Good luck on your decision.  Keep us posted.
  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2009

    January 29th I start Taxol and Avastin

    Taxol, once a week for 3 weeks, the one off.

    Avastin every 1st and 3rd week.

    (I am so grateful to have a port.. it seems to make it so much easier compared to my sister in law who has a picc and seems to be always having problems (she's 20years older than me tho.)

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited January 2009

    I am joining this group also!  I will start chemo around the week of February 9th.  My treatment will be 4AC x 8 treatments (every 2 weeks) followed by Taxol for 8 treatments (every two weeks).  We are hoping that the lump will reduce in size small enough for me to have a lumpectomy.

    I had the SLN procedure done on Wednesday last week and they took out 5 nodes which all were negative for cancer!!!!!  Finally some good news!  I was in so much pain for 3 days that I did nothing but sleep the entire time and am still feeling a little bit woozy from the meds even though I haven't taken any today.

    Ok, so I hear about the importance of drinking lots of water.  I hate water!!  Can I drink gatorade instead?

    I opted to not have the port put in.  I asked my surgeon if it was ok with him if I didn't.  I have great veins which are highly visible and like I told him "I have no problem with you sticking needles in my veins every two weeks but I draw the line on sticking needles in my nipple!"  He had to give me 10 mg of Valium to get through the nipple needle procedure as I was a total wreck.

    Tomorrow I will call the chemo nurse and get a set schedule.  I also have to attend a one hour or so orientation class where they talk about all of the SE of chemo, what to expect, ect.  Wed evening I am attending a lyphedema exercise class.

    I know we can all get through this!!!

  • Carol0371
    Carol0371 Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2009

    Artemis-I also go tomorrow for my 1st trtmt.I've done it twice before but this combination of drugs is different-so don't know how it will be.

    Apple-I'm doing the same combo as you-Taxol & Avaston.I did taxol the first time but never have had Avastin.It's fairly new for treating breast cancer.

    Good luck to both of you & all the rest of us,I just want to get these 9 wks over with & get back to feeling good.This just takes over your life when you're going thru it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    Hello ... I posted over in the january thread, didn't realize there was a february thread.

    i had surgery first, bilateral mastectomy w/expanders 12/30, am cancer-free (thank god!) but have been told by my surgeon that i will need chemo/radiation as insurance. i have my first appt with my oncologist on wednesday. i know the anticipation is the worst. but somehow i wasn't really scared pre-surgery. now? i'm terrified. today was my first day back at work since the surgery. i have a job with flexible hours and a very understanding boss. i'm just hoping i can work while i'm doing chemo. i know it'll help me, mind over matter-wise.

    Terri42 - getting 'tires inflated', lol! my last fill is friday. my new year's eve was sucky too. next year, we'll just have to celebrate that much more, yes?

    webwriter - sending you soothing feel-betta vibes for your ouchy shoulder.

    jancie - congrats on the negative nodes!

    (((Judy))) & (((Carol0371)))  i know i don't know you, but i hope it helps to know i'm rooting special for you.

  • kelty
    kelty Member Posts: 80
    edited January 2009

    Hello, Webwriter,

    I will start my chemo on 02/09. DD AC X4+Taxaol X12.  I was trying to sign up for avastin trial, but my low platelet problem disqualified me.

  • Brenny
    Brenny Member Posts: 116
    edited January 2009

    Lisa 810

      I posted a reply on the Jan thread - so do check there also.

    And note that I have worked through the first 3 TC tx's without missing a day.  One more to go on 2/4.  Also I fly back and forth between OH (where I live) and MO (where I work) every two weeks.

    You can do it!

  • susan13
    susan13 Member Posts: 732
    edited January 2009

    Starting dd Taxotere x 4 Jan. 29th, so I'll join this group.  I already did 4 dd AC's from Sept-Oct, then had bilat. mast. with tissue expanders.  Darn nodes were pos. so here I am again.

    Someone asked about Gatorade, I drank it on my last tx's, and the onc. nurses said it's better than water, more stuff in it to hydrate you.  Also ladies make sure you take something for constipation... cause that can and will get very bad if you don't keep on top of it.  Something like Senekot for the first 4-5 days of treatment will work.  Good luck to all!

    Sue

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited January 2009

    Hey Ya'll! Just stoping by for a minute. Got chucked "in the hole" by my Ortho. Had to let the swelling come down in the shoulder. Still sore, but I'm alive!

    Oh my goodness, we've gained a few in the February group! WOW! And Welcome! And I'm sorry to see you! You've found a great group tho, so jump right in.

    Question before I update our list up top with all these great new faces: Would you rather it be alphabetized by user name, or grouped by start date like it is now?

    Sorry to post and run, but you'll be seeing plenty of me after Thursday, haha!

    Makin' hay while the sun shines--

    Web

  • gcpommom
    gcpommom Member Posts: 883
    edited January 2009

    Hi everyone. 

    I saw my onc again yesterday, and I start chemo next Tuesday, 2/3.  I have my choice of either doing AC/T dose dense, or participating in study S0221, which is looking at how an increase in frequency of dosing may or may not help  reduce recurrences.  With this study, I could end up having weekly doses of both AC and T, or some combination of every week and every 2 weeks, for about 26 weeks.  I worry about having no time to recover from se's with having chemo every week.  So, I am still researching that.

    They are making me go to the dentist before starting, I need some work done.  So that is why I don't start until next week.  My hospital has a dental school, so they said I should be able to get the work done for free or almost free. 

    Hope everyone is doing ok.  Web, I hope your shoulder heals up soon.  Welcome to all newcomers to the group, although it really stinks that there are so many of us in this situation.

  • Carol0371
    Carol0371 Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2009

    Hi all,my first trtmt was yesterday.No SE yet-too early.Just couldn't sleep last night even with sleeping pill.I think because of steroids they give with the chemo.I was there for 3 hrs.just like they said.About half the time for the Taxol & half for the Avastin.Went for a walk with my husband after,around inside the mall-too cold & snowy to walk outside.I really want to try & force myself to walk this time going thru this.Have read many women who have & say it really helps,just SO HARD to get off the couch when the fatigue sets in.Also keeping a journal,my youngest dtr.bought me one,so I started it yesterday.Anything to get this over with again.

    webwriter-sorry youre having so many problems with your shoulder on top of everything else.Hope it heals soon.

    Have to go now-husband has to be at hospital for a procedure,the fun never ends in this house.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited January 2009

    i have been thru chemo before and found the steroids way too much.  I don't think I even went to bed the first time I took 4 the nite before.  After the first week, I saved them and LOVE them for deep house cleaning.  They are also absolutely excellent for piano performance.   I play as if I had the hands of Horowitz.   I can see why athletes get hooked on them.  I still have 10 left over and hope they give me some more.

    (don't worry I only take about one a month and check with the doctor).

    I thought that my treatments would be over at the end of January.  I had a MAJOR scare with what appeared to be a brain tumor requiring immediate surgery... that coupled with further lymph node involvement.   thank goodness the brain thing turned out to be nothing hopefully.  chemo alone doesn't seem too bad.

    I take my keyboard and music into the treatment room w/ headphones and practice.   Carol, I'll be following you closely since we seem to be doing exactly the same thing at the same time.m  I'm doing 3 wks. of Taxol, and one week off, with the Avastin administered on weeks 1 and 3.

    I'm hoping the taxol doesn't do a number on my fingers and nails.

  • webwriter
    webwriter Member Posts: 535
    edited January 2009

    Popping in again to update the list (1st post) for those who are new and still coming. How are the "wallbangers" out there? Carol? Artemis? My sister-in-law, who is "helping out" (meaning full time work for an LPN!) for the duration, says the steroids don't wear off until the next day in most cases...and then when they do, it's like hitting a brick wall. Ouch yall!

    Getting things wrapped up for "go day" tomorrow. Tons to do, no time to do it, last minute details, overlooked lists, because if I sit still I'll think about this too much and that probably wouldn't be a good thing for me right now, and these people really think I need steroids for this, you gotta be kidding me! ;)

    Go Day Furies! Apple? Susan13? Let's all join hands and take a deep breath, 'eh? Ready? Yeah. me neither. But we gotta do it, so let's get it done. See you tomorrow! Best wishes!

    (I have a notepad here with notes for several of you.  Hang in there. SIL will stop cracking the whip shortly, haha!) 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    hello lovelies,

    just got back from the oncologist and my brain is reeling. i'm exhausted. so this will be a cliff notes version.

    1. LOVE my oncologist. confident he and i will be a good fit. he seems more reactive than proactive, ie: we'll deal with the side effects if and when they happen. but he wasn't dismissing my concerns either. he's funny and bright and warm and honest and open and we've already cussed in front of one another, hee. he seemed optimistic that the worst i would suffer is hair loss and fatigue.

    2. i don't know how to do all the abbreviations, but my regimen = (4) 2-wk cycles of AC (um, just realized i forgot to write down what the 'A' is and what the 'C' is ...? Adriamycin? Cytoxan? crap!), (4) 2-wk cycles of tamoxifen (or taxotere? forgot which one). so unhappy that it's not the original 12 wks that my surgeon predicted.

    3. i requested emend (thanks to suggestions listed here!) & he was happy to comply. his niece works for merck. hee. 

    4. he wants me to start chemo next weds, 2/4 - which shocked me a little. i think it's partly that he wants me to have my treatment at that specific facility (where all my doctors are, one stop shopping!), and he's only there wednesdays. plus less time for me to Dread. (i told him i'm prone to anticipatory anxiety.)

    5. i had to scurry to get all my doc appts in order: preop exam (for port surgery) tomorrow, my final fill w/ PS on friday, port "installation" on mon eve, and then chemo weds. he was able to pull strings and have my heart sonogram done in his office right then and there. (a heart sonogram with expanders is a trip and a half.)

    6. made my wig appt for monday morning. i have high hopes for the salon, based on kind email replies and an even nicer phone call. 

    i feel a leeeetle bit betta. but i need a cuppa tea and a book and a nap and no more internet research today. this is all so overwhelming.Surprised

    (((group hug))) 

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